Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions

[livingfree]

Well, it's actually more of the entertainment that they want to see and one of it is to see their idol. But knowing the fact that the ticket they're paying for will go to the charity.

That will make them more hype on this match because it is for a good cause. There could even fans that would just buy a ticket without watching the exhibition match because they want just to help.

The split of money is there but the main idea is all about the charity.

I Agree, an exhibition match like this can surely generate a huge sum of profit and money for them, and knowing Pacquiao really likes charity work it could be possible he doesn't hesitate in getting into this fight just to give to the people, but for me, he doesn't need to do such things, if this is to really help out then it is OK but if this could have a hidden agenda or for politics purposed then I really don't like it, in actually I like him as a boxer, an artist and father to his kids, and doing charitable work, or being a senator, but I am against him running for Presidency, for me, he is not really cut to being President,

It's already set and that's one reason why he has accepted the deal for this match, knowing that it's for a charity cause he never escalated and thought twice.

I don't see him doing this with political agenda. He's already past that and he's more for anything he want to do and all of these fights, I guess that his passion for boxing is just hard to remove even if he's already announced retirement.

[virasisog]

Well, it's actually more of the entertainment that they want to see and one of it is to see their idol. But knowing the fact that the ticket they're paying for will go to the charity.

That will make them more hype on this match because it is for a good cause. There could even fans that would just buy a ticket without watching the exhibition match because they want just to help.

The split of money is there but the main idea is all about the charity.

I Agree, an exhibition match like this can surely generate a huge sum of profit and money for them, and knowing Pacquiao really likes charity work it could be possible he doesn't hesitate in getting into this fight just to give to the people, but for me, he doesn't need to do such things, if this is to really help out then it is OK but if this could have a hidden agenda or for politics purposed then I really don't like it, in actually I like him as a boxer, an artist and father to his kids, and doing charitable work, or being a senator, but I am against him running for Presidency, for me, he is not really cut to being President,

It's already set and that's one reason why he has accepted the deal for this match, knowing that it's for a charity cause he never escalated and thought twice.

I don't see him doing this with political agenda. He's already past that and he's more for anything he want to do and all of these fights, I guess that his passion for boxing is just hard to remove even if he's already announced retirement.

Manny can actually run fundraising for charities or even donate using his own wealth like what he used to do to help people in the Philippines. He usually uses his own money to help the poor so I don't doubt his purpose this time. I'm sure that he really wants to help a charity but he also wants to pursue his passion at the same time. He can't go to another regular match since he already announced his retirement so he will be doing the charity works the way he will enjoy his passion. It's also exciting to see the boxing champ in the ring again after a long time. He's not in politics anymore so I don't think there's a political agenda behind this exhibition match. He might only want to do the sport that he used to enjoy before and as for me, he should still grab the chance as long as he still has strong stamina to enjoy boxing.

[Fredomago]

Manny's known for helping charity so that's really going to be one of his goal when it's up to these profits that he'll make from these matches. Since there are matches that's on his line up, this could really possible to happen in the near future after these fights that he's about to have.

The two fights that he has isn't that far from each other's schedule but with DK Yoo, it's just an exhibition so there's really no preparation needed for him to have.

While he's going to have that match with DK as a charity match, his former sparring partner Jaber is just also another exhibition match.

The proceeds of their fight will go to the charity for Ukraine.

In this kind of exhibition fans do buy tickets just to see their idol inside the ring, they are not expecting that much but still they will be more entertained if happen that they will see exchanges of punches, and knowing Manny he will not be shy to showcase his remaining skills, that shadow punches that he keeps on throwing I really missed those glory years where we see his opponent not knowing where the punches will be coming from.

Though again, exhibition fights are for money making deals and the good thing here is they have the charity that will receive portions of profits from this schedule events.

Well, it's actually more of the entertainment that they want to see and one of it is to see their idol. But knowing the fact that the ticket they're paying for will go to the charity.

That will make them more hype on this match because it is for a good cause. There could even fans that would just buy a ticket without watching the exhibition match because they want just to help.

The split of money is there but the main idea is all about the charity.

Not sure about that possibilities, I mean the ticket is expensive, maybe yes there are some millionaires who can afford to buy but the majority will still watch this fight, it's Pacquiao and they are still believing that even if it's only an exhibition, they will be impress from the speed that Pacquiao still got even he's away from this sport. Maybe there would be some satisfied viewers that can say that Pacquiao still has it and still can continue for a real fight. Don't know but that possibilities still there once we've seen him inside the ring even it's just an exhibition.

Though the main purpose is for the benefits of this fight beneficiaries but we don't know what or how the performer will bring the entertainment to the fans and audiences that will support and buy the tickets.

[Kasabus]

^ It's already getting hype by both camps, as Zayani said that he wouldn't hold in this exhibition fight and Manny says the same. If that is the case then we might see a full blown fight.

And regarding Canelo, he responded to David Benavidez dad, as we all know David's father said that his son will beat Canelo.

But Canelo doesn't want to give David the fight because he hasn't accomplished any.

“I see his dad talking a lot of sh!t,” Alvarez said. “Look what he’s accomplished – nothing. [He beat] one, single champion, Anthony Dirrell. Please, don’t disrespect [me]. Please, guys.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-i-see-benavidezs-dad-talking-lot-sht-look-what-hes-accomplished-nothing--169178

David should know the word patience and not to pursue some fights that will be ugly for him as it's not his time to face Canelo yet, as said above, David may have a pretty nice record but he can't boast that to Canelo yet because the latter will just give David his ugly moments that he won't probably forget. Canelo was just giving the kid a chance to grow on his own time and phase, David will have his chance soon but not this time.

And it just shows that Canelo might have other plans in the horizon after winning against Canelo. No doubt that David is a rising star in the super middle weight division. But I don't see him beating a prime Canelo. Maybe in the next 2 -3 years, maybe he will have his chance against him, but for now, his father should look on how to build his son and face opponents that will more likely see if he has the potential to become the next future star at 168 lbs instead of chasing Canelo and look for that biggest payday.

No news yet about Canelo yet on whom he will likely face next because he just came out from a trilogy fight against his long rival, Golovkin. Some rumors saying that he will activate his rematch after Bivol-Ramirez fight but I guess Canelo will not activate that if Ramirez will win because Bivol won't have belts by that time.

No doubt that David is a rising star in the super middle weight division. But I don't see him beating a prime Canelo.

Yes, David needed to climb through the ranks until he can be in the position next to Canelo or #3 in the supper middle weight. I guess that will be in the next few years when he is at the height of his prime and by that time, probably, he'd score against Canelo as the Mexican undisputed champion is not in his prime anymore.

[lionheart78]

Manny can actually run fundraising for charities or even donate using his own wealth like what he used to do to help people in the Philippines. He usually uses his own money to help the poor so I don't doubt his purpose this time. I'm sure that he really wants to help a charity but he also wants to pursue his passion at the same time. He can't go to another regular match since he already announced his retirement so he will be doing the charity works the way he will enjoy his passion. It's also exciting to see the boxing champ in the ring again after a long time.

It is possible.  Aside from giving in to the request of some of his fans, he also has a way to put more money in his stash and at the same time gather funds for some charities.

Even though I believe Manny is a kind-hearted charity oriented person, I cannot remove the possibility that he accepted the fight for monetary purposes.  Besides, the exhibition fight doesn't have to put anyone at risk since they can always put anything on the contract including not hurting each other but just to showcase their fighting skills and technique.

He's not in politics anymore so I don't think there's a political agenda behind this exhibition match. He might only want to do the sport that he used to enjoy before and as for me, he should still grab the chance as long as he still has strong stamina to enjoy boxing.

Who knows, probably he will run again on the next election if not a president, senator or congressman maybe.  But I believe this exhibition fight is pure sports since the election isn't around yet.

[YuginKadoya]

It's already set and that's one reason why he has accepted the deal for this match, knowing that it's for a charity cause he never escalated and thought twice.

I don't see him doing this with political agenda. He's already past that and he's more for anything he want to do and all of these fights, I guess that his passion for boxing is just hard to remove even if he's already announced retirement.

We can never say, but I am just speculating that the charity work is just for his hidden agenda or a good point for Running again for Presidency, but yeah it could be a legit help for others, and as I have said knowing Pacman from rug to riches he is more close to the people at poverty, but we can really never know his true intension,

But those fights were already set and we can not say if he wants to regain those lost amounts after that campaign period, but for a boxer like him surely those lingering effect on fighting in the ring will surely be there that is why he is still coming back for more,

Not sure about that possibilities, I mean the ticket is expensive, maybe yes there are some millionaires who can afford to buy but the majority will still watch this fight, it's Pacquiao and they are still believing that even if it's only an exhibition, they will be impress from the speed that Pacquiao still got even he's away from this sport. Maybe there would be some satisfied viewers that can say that Pacquiao still has it and still can continue for a real fight. Don't know but that possibilities still there once we've seen him inside the ring even it's just an exhibition.

Though the main purpose is for the benefits of this fight beneficiaries but we don't know what or how the performer will bring the entertainment to the fans and audiences that will support and buy the tickets.

I sure hope he doesn't underestimate his recent sparring partner Jaber Zayani he is out of fighting for some time, and DK Yoo is not really much compared to Jaber Zayani in my opinion but Manny Pacquaio doesn't really stand down on a fight he would surely accept the fight whatever or whoever it is, and many does want to see him come back so there are still possibilities however it will surely be shown in his performance if he would have ring rust or not, it will be shown during the fight,

[stadus]

Kind of crazy that Mayweather is saying him and McGregor are going to rematch and McGregor is saying he’s not interested. Starting to seem like Mayweather is losing his shine a bit if he’s chasing MMA fighters around for fights. I sort of thought he’d be retired by now but he keeps fighting exhibitions. He’s addicted to boxing.

Can't really blame him because that is Money Mayweather's passion and he is doing his best to do some exhibition fights anywhere in the world while he still can and while he's still known to the public. No denying that doing some exhibition fights is one of his easiest way to make money because of what he had achieved in his time. Sooner or later, that fire that keeps him fighting will burn-out and even Mayweather can't evade that.

[abel1337]

Kind of crazy that Mayweather is saying him and McGregor are going to rematch and McGregor is saying he’s not interested. Starting to seem like Mayweather is losing his shine a bit if he’s chasing MMA fighters around for fights. I sort of thought he’d be retired by now but he keeps fighting exhibitions. He’s addicted to boxing.

Can't really blame him because that is Money Mayweather's passion and he is doing his best to do some exhibition fights anywhere in the world while he still can and while he's still known to the public. No denying that doing some exhibition fights is one of his easiest way to make money because of what he had achieved in his time. Sooner or later, that fire that keeps him fighting will burn-out and even Mayweather can't evade that.

That's true, Remember the Mayweather vs Logan Paul fight? I didn't believe that Mayweather would fight Logan Paul even on an exhibition boxing match even their weight differences are far different from each other. It's about money and it's what we are all thinking for the reason why Mayweather agreed. Mayweather is retired but I think he is still utilizing his strength and take a chance in making money thru his boxing skills. Shall we expect another Mayweather odd exhibition match?

[jakelyson]

It's already set and that's one reason why he has accepted the deal for this match, knowing that it's for a charity cause he never escalated and thought twice.

I don't see him doing this with political agenda. He's already past that and he's more for anything he want to do and all of these fights, I guess that his passion for boxing is just hard to remove even if he's already announced retirement.

We can never say, but I am just speculating that the charity work is just for his hidden agenda or a good point for Running again for Presidency, but yeah it could be a legit help for others, and as I have said knowing Pacman from rug to riches he is more close to the people at poverty, but we can really never know his true intension,

But those fights were already set and we can not say if he wants to regain those lost amounts after that campaign period, but for a boxer like him surely those lingering effect on fighting in the ring will surely be there that is why he is still coming back for more,

That is actually my first reaction when I heard on the news that Manny Pacquiao is in negotiation for an exhibition match. I thought if he lost a lot of money in the election campaign he needs to fight again. I hope it is not because he is already a millionaire, and he does not need to fight just for money. If it is for charity like everyone is saying above, then I guess it is for a good cause. I think there are still a lot of fans who want to watch Manny fight even just to see a glimpse of his previous glory.

Kind of crazy that Mayweather is saying him and McGregor are going to rematch and McGregor is saying he’s not interested. Starting to seem like Mayweather is losing his shine a bit if he’s chasing MMA fighters around for fights. I sort of thought he’d be retired by now but he keeps fighting exhibitions. He’s addicted to boxing.

Can't really blame him because that is Money Mayweather's passion and he is doing his best to do some exhibition fights anywhere in the world while he still can and while he's still known to the public. No denying that doing some exhibition fights is one of his easiest way to make money because of what he had achieved in his time. Sooner or later, that fire that keeps him fighting will burn-out and even Mayweather can't evade that.

I always thought of Mayweather to fight for money. The way he chooses his fights, it is always on his favor, and he make it sure he gets the bigger cut. But I think that this exhibition fights that he wants against McGregor is just to make himself still relevant. He likes the limelight. These fights will make him still visible publicly. I may be wrong; it is just my opinion.

[Kemarit]

Oh well, it just shows Mayweather is not after the legacy or what not. He is definitely after the money, and he can't blame him, up to this day he can still better performance because throughout his career, he wasn't hit like other boxers and that's why you will hear him saying, health comes first.

So he can have as many exhibitions fight as he wanted, make millions out of it in matter of minutes and then go to the bank laughing when cashing it out. But I guess he will not get the respect of some old and former boxers.

[Jody.Drummer]

Kind of crazy that Mayweather is saying him and McGregor are going to rematch and McGregor is saying he’s not interested. Starting to seem like Mayweather is losing his shine a bit if he’s chasing MMA fighters around for fights. I sort of thought he’d be retired by now but he keeps fighting exhibitions. He’s addicted to boxing.

He realized that indeed he was not as phenomenal as he used to be and of course it was a good thing for him at this time to do some exhibition fights because indeed this was something that could be considered as one of the fields of money for him at this time because he realized when this luster is almost gone but when he still wants it like that then indeed money will still be available.
But it's hard now considering McGgragor's current reaction is to say he's not really interested in it.
On the other hand I also read a statement from UFC president Dana White who said McGregor-Mayweather 2 shouldn't have happened. because McGregor has two fights left on his current UFC contract, meaning he will be free to fight Mayweather once his deal expires.

[Yaunfitda]

Kind of crazy that Mayweather is saying him and McGregor are going to rematch and McGregor is saying he’s not interested. Starting to seem like Mayweather is losing his shine a bit if he’s chasing MMA fighters around for fights. I sort of thought he’d be retired by now but he keeps fighting exhibitions. He’s addicted to boxing.

He realized that indeed he was not as phenomenal as he used to be and of course it was a good thing for him at this time to do some exhibition fights because indeed this was something that could be considered as one of the fields of money for him at this time because he realized when this luster is almost gone but when he still wants it like that then indeed money will still be available.
But it's hard now considering McGgragor's current reaction is to say he's not really interested in it.
On the other hand I also read a statement from UFC president Dana White who said McGregor-Mayweather 2 shouldn't have happened. because McGregor has two fights left on his current UFC contract, meaning he will be free to fight Mayweather once his deal expires.

He is addicted to making money, that's for sure. Yes, he knows that Canelo is already the cash cow and all attention has shifted already. So just to remain relevant in the boxing community, he resorted or at least pioneered this exhibitions and make money, easy millions per fight. And in their first fight with Conor, it generated and easily gross as one of the highest PPV numbers, only second to his fight with Manny Pacquiao. But there is some roadblock, it's Dana White, so not sure how they can get away with it since he is against the second fight or even the first fight.

[YuginKadoya]

That is actually my first reaction when I heard on the news that Manny Pacquiao is in negotiation for an exhibition match. I thought if he lost a lot of money in the election campaign he needs to fight again. I hope it is not because he is already a millionaire, and he does not need to fight just for money. If it is for charity like everyone is saying above, then I guess it is for a good cause. I think there are still a lot of fans who want to watch Manny fight even just to see a glimpse of his previous glory.

Well, he doesn't really need the money from those Exhibition matches but if it goes to charity then I will be truly delighted Manny Pacquiao really doesn't need to fight anymore he can give to charity because right now he got a lot of business, a gym, tv commercials, Guesting, even an internet sensation, he can do anything because of his fame, but surely I think he missed the way he goes on the ring so much that is why he allowed this exhibition matches,

Oh well, it just shows Mayweather is not after the legacy or what not. He is definitely after the money, and he can't blame him, up to this day he can still better performance because throughout his career, he wasn't hit like other boxers and that's why you will hear him saying, health comes first.

So he can have as many exhibitions fight as he wanted, make millions out of it in matter of minutes and then go to the bank laughing when cashing it out. But I guess he will not get the respect of some old and former boxers.

He surely only wants the money and you can surely see it in his name his nickname was literally money, well I think he surely wants to go in his own path and that is to be healthy for more Exhibition fight for the money, that is why he is saying that his health comes 1st, and that is why he doesn't want to fight in one of the official fights anymore and only wants to fight with exhibition matches because he is pretty much safer with those matches than fighting on official match ups, that could ruin his heath and his target is to keep on fighting exhibition matches until he can not anymore,

[lionheart78]

That is actually my first reaction when I heard on the news that Manny Pacquiao is in negotiation for an exhibition match. I thought if he lost a lot of money in the election campaign he needs to fight again. I hope it is not because he is already a millionaire, and he does not need to fight just for money. If it is for charity like everyone is saying above, then I guess it is for a good cause. I think there are still a lot of fans who want to watch Manny fight even just to see a glimpse of his previous glory.

Well, he doesn't really need the money from those Exhibition matches but if it goes to charity then I will be truly delighted Manny Pacquiao really doesn't need to fight anymore he can give to charity because right now he got a lot of business, a gym, tv commercials, Guesting, even an internet sensation, he can do anything because of his fame, but surely I think he missed the way he goes on the ring so much that is why he allowed this exhibition matches,

I agree, Manny always gives funds to charity via his own pocket.  Often times he offers help and does not need to ask someone for funding, unlike those media company who always ask for a donation and claim the charity donations as theirs. 

But of course, it is always better to have funding outside the riches we have and I think Manny also thinks the same.  The exhibition match doesn't only give him the opportunity to showcase his skills, entertain his fans, and play the sports he is always fond of, but he can also gather extra funding for his charity projects.  It is like hitting multiple birds in one stone.

Oh well, it just shows Mayweather is not after the legacy or what not. He is definitely after the money, and he can't blame him, up to this day he can still better performance because throughout his career, he wasn't hit like other boxers and that's why you will hear him saying, health comes first.

So he can have as many exhibitions fight as he wanted, make millions out of it in matter of minutes and then go to the bank laughing when cashing it out. But I guess he will not get the respect of some old and former boxers.

I don't think he needs those respect and approval from old and former boxers.  He is already a legend and One of the best boxers in his era or possibly in the entire boxing history.  Those who frowned  his exhibition match doesn't have the say on the event because they can just skip and not watch it if they are not interested.

[livingfree]

It's already set and that's one reason why he has accepted the deal for this match, knowing that it's for a charity cause he never escalated and thought twice.

I don't see him doing this with political agenda. He's already past that and he's more for anything he want to do and all of these fights, I guess that his passion for boxing is just hard to remove even if he's already announced retirement.

We can never say, but I am just speculating that the charity work is just for his hidden agenda or a good point for Running again for Presidency, but yeah it could be a legit help for others, and as I have said knowing Pacman from rug to riches he is more close to the people at poverty, but we can really never know his true intension,

But those fights were already set and we can not say if he wants to regain those lost amounts after that campaign period, but for a boxer like him surely those lingering effect on fighting in the ring will surely be there that is why he is still coming back for more,

The election's done and that's why he's up for matches again. I don't think it's a good capitalization if he's going to do it for that agenda and he's lost already and accepted that he can reach that ambition.

That's why, he's choosing where he's better and where people love him more.

Maybe, about the recovery of some expenditures. There's a likely that he's trying to do that because of how huge his campaign funds was used and it's part of his entire wealth.

[Baofeng]

For  those who are interested on the PPV numbers regarding Canelo vs GGG fight.

As Saul “Canelo” Alvarez ultimately outboxed Gennadiy “GGG” Golovkin this past weekend to bring one of the most compelling rivalries in sport to an end, DAZN Group has confirmed the Canelo vs. GGG III fight night saw a global audience in the millions, with more than 1.06 million buys generated worldwide including PPV and DAZN subscriptions.

https://www.dazn.com/en-US/news/boxing/dazn-confirms-106-million-buys-globally-for-canelo-vs-ggg-iii/tjfnmc91gd8a1vzv8gih4812q

What do you guys think of the numbers?

I was thinking that the numbers will go high as this is the last fight of their trilogy and I was predicting that US audience alone could be around this ball park number. But this is globally already, and if I'm not mistaken the 2nd fight generated 1.1 buys and the rematch 1.2 buys.

[jossiel]

Oh well, it just shows Mayweather is not after the legacy or what not. He is definitely after the money, and he can't blame him, up to this day he can still better performance because throughout his career, he wasn't hit like other boxers and that's why you will hear him saying, health comes first.

So he can have as many exhibitions fight as he wanted, make millions out of it in matter of minutes and then go to the bank laughing when cashing it out. But I guess he will not get the respect of some old and former boxers.

I don't think he needs those respect and approval from old and former boxers.  He is already a legend and One of the best boxers in his era or possibly in the entire boxing history.  Those who frowned  his exhibition match doesn't have the say on the event because they can just skip and not watch it if they are not interested.

I agree, he don't need the approval of the others with what he does right now. He's already proven himself and his record is really at top of the line and it's hard to beat by the prime boxers today.

He should be the one respected by those that are still on their careers because no matter how hard they are, the achievements of what Money has right now is what he has worked for and it's hard to achieve.

Those exhibition matches he's doing, they're all for the money and he just accepts those offer as it's like his paycheck every time there are matches like that which isn't that a lot for him.

[serjent05]

For  those who are interested on the PPV numbers regarding Canelo vs GGG fight.

As Saul “Canelo” Alvarez ultimately outboxed Gennadiy “GGG” Golovkin this past weekend to bring one of the most compelling rivalries in sport to an end, DAZN Group has confirmed the Canelo vs. GGG III fight night saw a global audience in the millions, with more than 1.06 million buys generated worldwide including PPV and DAZN subscriptions.

https://www.dazn.com/en-US/news/boxing/dazn-confirms-106-million-buys-globally-for-canelo-vs-ggg-iii/tjfnmc91gd8a1vzv8gih4812q

What do you guys think of the numbers?

I was thinking that the numbers will go high as this is the last fight of their trilogy and I was predicting that US audience alone could be around this ball park number. But this is globally already, and if I'm not mistaken the 2nd fight generated 1.1 buys and the rematch 1.2 buys.

The Canelo - GGG fight had gathered a lot of attention.  Even non-fans of the two become curious so I think the given numbers are true, there might be some discrepancy but I think it is negligible.  I also think that it should be more than the numbers since there is a possibility of late reports from their affiliates and other contacts.

[goinmerry]

The Canelo - GGG fight had gathered a lot of attention.  Even non-fans of the two become curious so I think the given numbers are true, there might be some discrepancy but I think it is negligible.  I also think that it should be more than the numbers since there is a possibility of late reports from their affiliates and other contacts.

If that's the figures then so be it. We don't have to give doubts about it.

It's already big and we can see that even though this match is between a prime boxer against an almost retired legend, there are still lots of people who want to witness the fight, and as you said, even non-boxing fans because both names are big and popular.

It should be supposed to be big but we don't have any other legit reference to prove that. Aside from that, there are lot of free streaming links that was shared online and it's now easy to find.

[Kemarit]

The Canelo - GGG fight had gathered a lot of attention.  Even non-fans of the two become curious so I think the given numbers are true, there might be some discrepancy but I think it is negligible.  I also think that it should be more than the numbers since there is a possibility of late reports from their affiliates and other contacts.

If that's the figures then so be it. We don't have to give doubts about it.

It's already big and we can see that even though this match is between a prime boxer against an almost retired legend, there are still lots of people who want to witness the fight, and as you said, even non-boxing fans because both names are big and popular.

It should be supposed to be big but we don't have any other legit reference to prove that. Aside from that, there are lot of free streaming links that was shared online and it's now easy to find.

I don't the numbers is right, it's from the official DAZN website so I doubt that there is discrepancy on the amount of PPV generated and the money. It's more than 1 million so I guess we can call it a success although there could be some experts that expecting the numbers to be more than that assuming that this is the 3rd fight between these two legends.

But as I have said already, maybe the illegal streamers have something to do with it. Or we are still in the pandemic or recession and fans are not wiling to buy this whether live gate or not. But still anything that is 1 million above is a good numbers at least for me.