Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions

[Dave1]

George Kambosos will be back in action,



https://www.boxingscene.com/photos-george-kambosos-maxi-hughes-set-showdown-shawnee--176323

So after losing all his belts to Haney, Kambosos is back against Maxi Hughes tonight. This is going to be a comeback fight for him so let's see if Maxi will be a good tune up fight or George doesn't have it anymore.

But I expect George to win in the later rounds by stoppage. Maxi is 3:1 underdog.

Kambosos won the fight, but I was personally unimpressed on how he fight and it seems he was gifted with this win. Even after Kambosos won, and in his interview i the ring, you can hear the boos in the background.

But he justify that there are close rounds and he could have been favored by the judges. However, as we say, a win is a win, so Kambosos got lucky and so his career continues again with Top Rank.

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[bisdak40]

George Kambosos will be back in action,



https://www.boxingscene.com/photos-george-kambosos-maxi-hughes-set-showdown-shawnee--176323

So after losing all his belts to Haney, Kambosos is back against Maxi Hughes tonight. This is going to be a comeback fight for him so let's see if Maxi will be a good tune up fight or George doesn't have it anymore.

But I expect George to win in the later rounds by stoppage. Maxi is 3:1 underdog.

Kambosos won the fight, but I was personally unimpressed on how he fight and it seems he was gifted with this win. Even after Kambosos won, and in his interview i the ring, you can hear the boos in the background.

But he justify that there are close rounds and he could have been favored by the judges. However, as we say, a win is a win, so Kambosos got lucky and so his career continues again with Top Rank.

It's funny though that the commentator has said that Joseph Mason should be in the Christmas list for George Kambosos for that 117-111 score hehe. I expect that this would be tough for Kambosos because like Maxi, he has not fought any big name expect for Teo Lopez. Even before the fight, Kambosos has been calling out Davis which i think a disastrous move because Davis not like Teo but i think a wise move money-wise as this might be a retirement fight for him.

Congrats to those who bet for George but that was not a juicy odds, if my memory serves me right, it was 1.61 for George to win by Decision.

[tusandii]

Errol Spence Jr. will be the opponent and has been required to challenge Terence Crawford.
So far Terence Crawford has a very good winning record of 39-0 with 30 TKOs and he can defend his unbeaten title and Terence Crawford also has several world titles in 3 weight classes at once.
Maybe the battle between the two will be very exciting when the time comes and Terence Crawford has prepared everything to return to an absolute victory over Errol Spence Jr.

What are you saying it is one of the most awaited fights for sure both are undefeated and both got some good records and this is happening on July 29, and their fight is for the undisputed welterweight champion, so that is one fight that many are waiting for, will make a certain bet for this for sure, man I can not wait for that, and actually I still don't know on who's I am going to bet,

Yes Terence Crawford and Errol Spence Jr. are two boxers who have amazing titles and they are one of the best boxers in their class.
July 29 is the day of the meeting as well as determining who is the strongest and deserves to hold the title of champion.
If betting then clearly Terence Crawford is the best choice to bet on and I will definitely be setting aside some money for their fight later.

[btc_angela]

George Kambosos will be back in action,



https://www.boxingscene.com/photos-george-kambosos-maxi-hughes-set-showdown-shawnee--176323

So after losing all his belts to Haney, Kambosos is back against Maxi Hughes tonight. This is going to be a comeback fight for him so let's see if Maxi will be a good tune up fight or George doesn't have it anymore.

But I expect George to win in the later rounds by stoppage. Maxi is 3:1 underdog.

Kambosos won the fight, but I was personally unimpressed on how he fight and it seems he was gifted with this win. Even after Kambosos won, and in his interview i the ring, you can hear the boos in the background.

But he justify that there are close rounds and he could have been favored by the judges. However, as we say, a win is a win, so Kambosos got lucky and so his career continues again with Top Rank.

It's funny though that the commentator has said that Joseph Mason should be in the Christmas list for George Kambosos for that 117-111 score hehe. I expect that this would be tough for Kambosos because like Maxi, he has not fought any big name expect for Teo Lopez. Even before the fight, Kambosos has been calling out Davis which i think a disastrous move because Davis not like Teo but i think a wise move money-wise as this might be a retirement fight for him.

Congrats to those who bet for George but that was not a juicy odds, if my memory serves me right, it was 1.61 for George to win by Decision.

Maybe George hasn't exorcise the demon inside of him when he lost twice against Haney. So he struggle against a tough Maxi Hughes and it almost cost him a victory in this fight.

Hopefully with the win, although ugly, George could be back for more action and fight name boxers in this division. Keyshawn Davis also won via UD against a game Francesco Patera. So the hype train on Davis continues.

[mirakal]

Numbers are out of the Garcia vs Davis fight, and it was reported that it made $100 million.



https://twitter.com/RyanGarcia/status/1681758159889891328

And then Ryan Garcia made $30 Million ++, Obviously Gervonta Davis made more $40 million ++. So the next superfight is Spence-Crawford, and so we will see how big the money will be for them and maybe it's hard to topple the numbers that Garcia-Davis did here.

We should hope that those numbers would encourage other good fighters of boxing to negotiate deals and fight each other hehe. Another fight that I wish should collect a good amount of money is the superfight between Inoue and Fulton. But it appears not much people are very excited about this except for boxing fans.

Also, the fight will not be on a weekend which is strange. Why did they not make Inoue vs. Fulton in Las Vegas? It would certainly collect more money there than in Japan.

That would be too much too ask mainly in this era where politics are more important compared to the figures that they could get if they give the people a fight that they wanted. It would be an entertaining fight for sure if that will happen but again, it's just too much to ask.

For the Fulton vs Inoue fight, I'm sure that Bob Arum already considered having it in Las Vegas but considering that they chose to make it in Japan, that just means that they are generating more revenues compared if it will happen inside the US.

Hehe it is difficult to disagree, however, it might stop being too much to ask if the ratings of MMA will begin to be higher consistently and surpass boxing. Why should they wait before this? Also, these fighters in boxing should not put unfair agreements in their contracts and force their opponents to sign. It drops the value of the sport.

Well, I sure do hope that it will happen though so that boxing will be forced to be more creative and more entertaining but as of now, they are still enjoying the situation while the sport is still at its peak and that is why it is not surprising anymore that there is a lot of boxers nowadays who are big headed especially if they are already famous.

Yes, I am talking about Tank's rehydration clause for Ryan Garcia. Why does Tank care what Ryan weighs during the fight?

Most probable answer for that is that Tank Davis doesn't want to give up his advantage because he knew that Ryan Garcia will be difficult to face if somehow he can recover those weights. Although it's not a guarantee that it will happen where Garcia will be more dangerous but it is understandable that Davis just wanted to be on the safe side.

[Kemarit]

George Kambosos will be back in action,



https://www.boxingscene.com/photos-george-kambosos-maxi-hughes-set-showdown-shawnee--176323

So after losing all his belts to Haney, Kambosos is back against Maxi Hughes tonight. This is going to be a comeback fight for him so let's see if Maxi will be a good tune up fight or George doesn't have it anymore.

But I expect George to win in the later rounds by stoppage. Maxi is 3:1 underdog.

Kambosos won the fight, but I was personally unimpressed on how he fight and it seems he was gifted with this win. Even after Kambosos won, and in his interview i the ring, you can hear the boos in the background.

But he justify that there are close rounds and he could have been favored by the judges. However, as we say, a win is a win, so Kambosos got lucky and so his career continues again with Top Rank.

It's funny though that the commentator has said that Joseph Mason should be in the Christmas list for George Kambosos for that 117-111 score hehe. I expect that this would be tough for Kambosos because like Maxi, he has not fought any big name expect for Teo Lopez. Even before the fight, Kambosos has been calling out Davis which i think a disastrous move because Davis not like Teo but i think a wise move money-wise as this might be a retirement fight for him.

Congrats to those who bet for George but that was not a juicy odds, if my memory serves me right, it was 1.61 for George to win by Decision.

He needs more fight though, as far as Ferocious Kambosos is. I think he still has that stigma from the Haney lost that he hasn't shake it. I didn't bet on this fight although I would have gone for Kambosos to win by knockout.

So I would have lost my bet though, perhaps our money might be in the Inoue vs Fulton, Donaire vs Santiago and Crawford vs Spence.

In any case, I'm not that impressed with Kambosos and it will be a disaster if he calls for a Davis clash.

[Baofeng]

George Kambosos will be back in action,



https://www.boxingscene.com/photos-george-kambosos-maxi-hughes-set-showdown-shawnee--176323

So after losing all his belts to Haney, Kambosos is back against Maxi Hughes tonight. This is going to be a comeback fight for him so let's see if Maxi will be a good tune up fight or George doesn't have it anymore.

But I expect George to win in the later rounds by stoppage. Maxi is 3:1 underdog.

Kambosos won the fight, but I was personally unimpressed on how he fight and it seems he was gifted with this win. Even after Kambosos won, and in his interview i the ring, you can hear the boos in the background.

But he justify that there are close rounds and he could have been favored by the judges. However, as we say, a win is a win, so Kambosos got lucky and so his career continues again with Top Rank.

It's funny though that the commentator has said that Joseph Mason should be in the Christmas list for George Kambosos for that 117-111 score hehe. I expect that this would be tough for Kambosos because like Maxi, he has not fought any big name expect for Teo Lopez. Even before the fight, Kambosos has been calling out Davis which i think a disastrous move because Davis not like Teo but i think a wise move money-wise as this might be a retirement fight for him.

Congrats to those who bet for George but that was not a juicy odds, if my memory serves me right, it was 1.61 for George to win by Decision.

Unfortunately, I wasn't able to watch the fight live so I haven't had my unofficial scorecards, hehehe. But as per the judges, 114-114, 115-113, 117-111 for Kambosos. So it's really very close and there are a huge uproar in this fight as majority says that Hughes was robbed.

But as we know in boxing, if the rounds are very close, most likely the judges are going to give the score to the name fighters. And with corruption prevalent in boxing, you just have to ask if this boxers specially Mason who scored it 117-116 might be in the payroll from Bob Arum and Kambosos is with Top Rank. So another conspiracies that we don't have proof. 

[serjent05]

Kambosos won the fight, but I was personally unimpressed on how he fight and it seems he was gifted with this win. Even after Kambosos won, and in his interview i the ring, you can hear the boos in the background.

But he justify that there are close rounds and he could have been favored by the judges. However, as we say, a win is a win, so Kambosos got lucky and so his career continues again with Top Rank.

I am also unimpressed with Kamboso's performance.  He looks sluggy and his ability seems deteriorated. I do not know if the reason is because of his opponent being a southpaw.  I heard it was the first time in his 9 years career that he met a southpaw opponent (but didn't Kambosos once a sparring partner of Manny Pacquiao).  The audience are have divided feeling about the result.  Though I believe Kambosos really won the fight but his performance isn't satisfactory.

[YuginKadoya]

Yes Terence Crawford and Errol Spence Jr. are two boxers who have amazing titles and they are one of the best boxers in their class.
July 29 is the day of the meeting as well as determining who is the strongest and deserves to hold the title of champion.
If betting then clearly Terence Crawford is the best choice to bet on and I will definitely be setting aside some money for their fight later.

Surely will share my bet builder here and will be adding some predictions on what I think will happen in the fight but for now, before this fight, we will be having a fight tomorrow and I think many are also waiting for this event to happen and I think it got postponed too many times, 1st was March 22, 2003, then on May 7, 2023, and lastly July 25, 2023 tomorrow will be this event we will see, and here are the full event list,

The Thread in the Forum and credits to harizen: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5436075.msg0#new

And in the full card, I have seen a Filipino boxer that will be fighting in this event,

Fulton vs. Inoue



DATE: Tuesday 07.25.2023
TIME: 08:00 AM ET
PROMOTION: Japan Boxing Commission
VENUE: Ariake Arena
LOCATION: Tokyo, Japan

MAIN EVENT
Stephen Fulton VS Naoya Inoue

CO-MAIN EVENT
Robeisy Ramirez VS Satoshi Shimizu

MAIN CARD
Yoshiki Takei VS Ronnie Baldonado
Kanamu Sakama VS Ryu Horikawa
Chihiro Iwashita VS Hiroyuki Takahara
Taiga Imanaga VS Hebi Marapu
Yuki Kajitani VS Masato Shinoda
Kenta Kawakami VS Takero Kitano
Kenta Yamakawa VS Ryosuke Nakamura

All information was from Tapology: https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/events/99854-fulton-vs-inoue

[bbc.reporter]

George Kambosos will be back in action,



https://www.boxingscene.com/photos-george-kambosos-maxi-hughes-set-showdown-shawnee--176323

So after losing all his belts to Haney, Kambosos is back against Maxi Hughes tonight. This is going to be a comeback fight for him so let's see if Maxi will be a good tune up fight or George doesn't have it anymore.

But I expect George to win in the later rounds by stoppage. Maxi is 3:1 underdog.

Kambosos won the fight, but I was personally unimpressed on how he fight and it seems he was gifted with this win. Even after Kambosos won, and in his interview i the ring, you can hear the boos in the background.

But he justify that there are close rounds and he could have been favored by the judges. However, as we say, a win is a win, so Kambosos got lucky and so his career continues again with Top Rank.

Agreed. On his record, Kambosos was only very lucky on the timing when he fought Teofimo Lopez, I reckon. I am aware that Teo has not fought a big name before Lomachenko which also Teo was lucky on the timing, however, if Teo and Kambosos fought today, does everyone think Kambosos would win?

@YuginKadoya. There are no sexy fighting kittens in these boxing cards heheehhe.

[Kemarit]

^^ Right, Perhaps it was just bad stylistic matchup for Teo Lopez that time. As he can't adjust to the style of Kambosos as he was being beaten to the punch. Although he try to rally late in the rounds in that fight, was not enough for him to overcome the big lead early by Kambosos.

But here, he was exposed by Maxi and again, the decision could have go either way but he was gifted by the judges.

And most likely George will be back in Australia to enjoy and maybe happy that he was able to get this huge victory as he needed it to stay in boxing. And Bob Arum too, because Kambosos just sign a new contract with Top Rank.

[YuginKadoya]

Agreed. On his record, Kambosos was only very lucky on the timing when he fought Teofimo Lopez, I reckon. I am aware that Teo has not fought a big name before Lomachenko which also Teo was lucky on the timing, however, if Teo and Kambosos fought today, does everyone think Kambosos would win?

@YuginKadoya. There are no sexy fighting kittens in these boxing cards heheehhe.

Nah! I am here because of the Main Event and the Filipino Boxer that is on this card, and I like to drop my bet here later but for me, this fight will be a great one Naoya Inoue is testing the waters on the Super bantamweight division and testing it to an undefeated fighter, Cool boy Steph is a good fighter but looking at his records of 21 fights 21 wins 13 wins was on decision and only 8 wins were knockout while Naoya Inoue has 24 fights 24 wins 3 wins was a decision and 21 wins was a knockout so for me Naoya Inoue surely has the punching power while Fulton will surely let Inoue inside his range because he will let him, and we all know the style of Fulton and his unbelievable guard but I think Naoya Inoue will Crack that open,

While Yoshiki Takei VS Ronnie Baldonado for me Yoshiki Takei really has a great record but Ronnie Baldonado even though he has losses can really pull an upset here we all know how a Filipino boxer pulls a comeback or even surprises his opponent if his opponent let his guard down,

[Maslate]

^^ Right, Perhaps it was just bad stylistic matchup for Teo Lopez that time. As he can't adjust to the style of Kambosos as he was being beaten to the punch. Although he try to rally late in the rounds in that fight, was not enough for him to overcome the big lead early by Kambosos.

But here, he was exposed by Maxi and again, the decision could have go either way but he was gifted by the judges.

And most likely George will be back in Australia to enjoy and maybe happy that he was able to get this huge victory as he needed it to stay in boxing. And Bob Arum too, because Kambosos just sign a new contract with Top Rank.

It wasn't an easy fight for Kambosos because he had to summon all his remaining strengths just to secure the fight because it does really look ugly when he was exposed in the mid rounds by Maxi. I'd say that he needs to be more prepared if he is going to regain his name because judging by how he performed in this fight, he still lacks something regardless if Maxi is a southpaw or not. Anyway, it was a good fight and congratulations for Kambosos for securing the victory.

[jakelyson]

^^ Right, Perhaps it was just bad stylistic matchup for Teo Lopez that time. As he can't adjust to the style of Kambosos as he was being beaten to the punch. Although he try to rally late in the rounds in that fight, was not enough for him to overcome the big lead early by Kambosos.

But here, he was exposed by Maxi and again, the decision could have go either way but he was gifted by the judges.

And most likely George will be back in Australia to enjoy and maybe happy that he was able to get this huge victory as he needed it to stay in boxing. And Bob Arum too, because Kambosos just sign a new contract with Top Rank.

Well that George Kambosos Jr fight was truly his fault he tried to chase Kambossos's lead but he doesn't have much time in that fight which led him to a loss I don't know if this fight led him to change division because he realized that he can not take on George Kambosos Jr, but for now, he is doing fine in his new division and would likely want to retire in this division if he would retire early, which a lot of fans don't really like, but can we see a rematch between the two fights, I really doubt it,

Nah! I am here because of the Main Event and the Filipino Boxer that is on this card, and I like to drop my bet here later but for me, this fight will be a great one Naoya Inoue is testing the waters on the Super bantamweight division and testing it to an undefeated fighter, Cool boy Steph is a good fighter but looking at his records of 21 fights 21 wins 13 wins was on decision and only 8 wins were knockout while Naoya Inoue has 24 fights 24 wins 3 wins was a decision and 21 wins was a knockout so for me Naoya Inoue surely has the punching power while Fulton will surely let Inoue inside his range because he will let him, and we all know the style of Fulton and his unbelievable guard but I think Naoya Inoue will Crack that open,

While Yoshiki Takei VS Ronnie Baldonado for me Yoshiki Takei really has a great record but Ronnie Baldonado even though he has losses can really pull an upset here we all know how a Filipino boxer pulls a comeback or even surprises his opponent if his opponent let his guard down,

For sure this main fight is really what people are going to watch, for me even though Naoya Inoue is a heavy puncher, his punch will surely send Stephen Fulton flying but for me, I think that Fulton is more technical than Inoue will surely lay a trap for Inoue and then when the leash unexpected for Naoya Inoue he will surely give it a go on Naoya for me Fulton is a lot more on defense and punching Naoya Inoue when the leash expected for Inoue,

[blockman]

For sure this main fight is really what people are going to watch, for me even though Naoya Inoue is a heavy puncher, his punch will surely send Stephen Fulton flying but for me, I think that Fulton is more technical than Inoue will surely lay a trap for Inoue and then when the leash unexpected for Naoya Inoue he will surely give it a go on Naoya for me Fulton is a lot more on defense and punching Naoya Inoue when the leash expected for Inoue,

From what I am seeing from the crowd and social media, they're all counting that Inoue is going to win this match. To those that haven't bet yet, stake has these odds for this match.

Fulton, Stephen
3.70

Inoue, Naoya
1.24

So while checking the odds for this match, the odds are also out for Nonito vs. Santiago. And as well as the match for Spence vs. Crawford.

[Japinat]

Nah! I am here because of the Main Event and the Filipino Boxer that is on this card, and I like to drop my bet here later but for me, this fight will be a great one Naoya Inoue is testing the waters on the Super bantamweight division and testing it to an undefeated fighter, Cool boy Steph is a good fighter but looking at his records of 21 fights 21 wins 13 wins was on decision and only 8 wins were knockout while Naoya Inoue has 24 fights 24 wins 3 wins was a decision and 21 wins was a knockout so for me Naoya Inoue surely has the punching power while Fulton will surely let Inoue inside his range because he will let him, and we all know the style of Fulton and his unbelievable guard but I think Naoya Inoue will Crack that open,

While Yoshiki Takei VS Ronnie Baldonado for me Yoshiki Takei really has a great record but Ronnie Baldonado even though he has losses can really pull an upset here we all know how a Filipino boxer pulls a comeback or even surprises his opponent if his opponent let his guard down,

For sure this main fight is really what people are going to watch, for me even though Naoya Inoue is a heavy puncher, his punch will surely send Stephen Fulton flying but for me, I think that Fulton is more technical than Inoue will surely lay a trap for Inoue and then when the leash unexpected for Naoya Inoue he will surely give it a go on Naoya for me Fulton is a lot more on defense and punching Naoya Inoue when the leash expected for Inoue,

For us Filipino fans, we will for sure watch and support Ronnie Baldonado in his fight against Takei but for the most people, the main event is the most anticipated fight because the fight will determine if whether we will have a new unified champion or the current champion will able to retain his title and will likely face Marlon Tapales for the undisputed fight.

And comparing Inoue and Fulton, surely they have their own flavor to give in this fight but I seriously think that even if the latter has been in the division for a while now, I know that Inoue can overcome the challenges that he will about to face in this fight because I know that Fulton will not just sit around and wait for Inoue to come and get his throne away from him. I'd say that Fulton should be careful though if he plans to have a slow start because Inoue can be very unpredictable as he can definitely finish a bout as early as he can, just like what he did to Donaire where he finished the fight within two mere rounds.

[Fredomago]

For sure this main fight is really what people are going to watch, for me even though Naoya Inoue is a heavy puncher, his punch will surely send Stephen Fulton flying but for me, I think that Fulton is more technical than Inoue will surely lay a trap for Inoue and then when the leash unexpected for Naoya Inoue he will surely give it a go on Naoya for me Fulton is a lot more on defense and punching Naoya Inoue when the leash expected for Inoue,

From what I am seeing from the crowd and social media, they're all counting that Inoue is going to win this match. To those that haven't bet yet, stake has these odds for this match.

Fulton, Stephen
3.70

Inoue, Naoya
1.24

So while checking the odds for this match, the odds are also out for Nonito vs. Santiago. And as well as the match for Spence vs. Crawford.

If you like to take that big risk, placing some spare for Fulton will surely attract you, though the majority that we see including bookies place Inoue as the favorite and with that ML maybe there are some who will take it but for those risk takers who loves to support Inoue, they will aim for another available odds that will give them better compensation.

But again, for those who are good with supporting Inoue to win @ 1.24 might be cool and they will just bet, watch and enjoy the fight.

[lionheart78]

If you like to take that big risk, placing some spare for Fulton will surely attract you, though the majority that we see including bookies place Inoue as the favorite and with that ML maybe there are some who will take it but for those risk takers who loves to support Inoue, they will aim for another available odds that will give them better compensation.

But again, for those who are good with supporting Inoue to win @ 1.24 might be cool and they will just bet, watch and enjoy the fight.

This is tempting to bet on Fulton but even though I am leaning on Fulton being able to withstand some of Inoue's punches, I am a bit hesitant since the previous performance of Inoue is so excellent making me think that Fulton may give in somewhere in the mid or later round due to accumulated damage done by Inoue's punches.  So I think I will just pass for now and just enjoy the fight between these two great boxer.

[bbc.reporter]

^^ Right, Perhaps it was just bad stylistic matchup for Teo Lopez that time. As he can't adjust to the style of Kambosos as he was being beaten to the punch. Although he try to rally late in the rounds in that fight, was not enough for him to overcome the big lead early by Kambosos.

No, it is not about being in a bad matchup. I reckon Teo can fight almost anyone and win in the lightweight and super lightweight divisions. It might be Teo lost vs. Kambosos because he had personal problems that might have affected him in his training and certainly caused him not being 100% for the fight. Also, he only lost in a split decision with less than 70% of his capabilites. If they fought today, Teo would win and it might also be with a knockout.

[danherbias07]

If you like to take that big risk, placing some spare for Fulton will surely attract you, though the majority that we see including bookies place Inoue as the favorite and with that ML maybe there are some who will take it but for those risk takers who loves to support Inoue, they will aim for another available odds that will give them better compensation.

But again, for those who are good with supporting Inoue to win @ 1.24 might be cool and they will just bet, watch and enjoy the fight.

This is tempting to bet on Fulton but even though I am leaning on Fulton being able to withstand some of Inoue's punches, I am a bit hesitant since the previous performance of Inoue is so excellent making me think that Fulton may give in somewhere in the mid or later round due to accumulated damage done by Inoue's punches.  So I think I will just pass for now and just enjoy the fight between these two great boxer.

No doubt it is tempting. I want to bet but on the same boat as you, doubts.
But I must decide in 3 hours or else I will miss betting on one of them. There's not much profit in betting for Inoue even though I know he will showcase good boxing skills here so I think I will be risking just a bit of money for Fulton and see where it will go.

Inoue by KO is 1.82
By decision is 3.05
Still low. I think sports bookies are underestimating Stephen Fulton or it is a trap set by them. This is a new weight class for Inoue, he may or may not be successful at taking the belts from the champion and I don't think Fulton will go down that easily. There's always that toughness and the spirit of a champion that will prevent him from falling down. I'd just enjoy this too with just a small bet, I am not a hardcore fan of either.