Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions

[goinmerry]

Yes it was clearly a duck to me as well, how him and Top Rank try to avoid Donaire at all cost and just hiding on their own reasons like doesn't want to work with Probellum, Donaire's promotion but in the past did they that.

After all, Nonito Donaire is still considered a threat in the Bantamweight even after being beaten by Naoya Inoue as the Japanese are really on the highest level at 118 lbs and no one can beat this guy. Top Rank once again spoiled another big fight in the Bantamweight as they clearly ducked their boxer, Jason Moloney to fight the old Donaire who still has the speed and strength.

I hope that Donaire will win the fight and claim the WBC title in order for the boxing council to somehow mandate title defense against top-ranked boxer in their list and that includes Jason Moloney. Top Rank will surely be forced to accept the deal. But the longer they are doing delays, the older Donaire is getting to.

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[Baofeng]

Yes it was clearly a duck to me as well, how him and Top Rank try to avoid Donaire at all cost and just hiding on their own reasons like doesn't want to work with Probellum, Donaire's promotion but in the past did they that.

After all, Nonito Donaire is still considered a threat in the Bantamweight even after being beaten by Naoya Inoue as the Japanese are really on the highest level at 118 lbs and no one can beat this guy. Top Rank once again spoiled another big fight in the Bantamweight as they clearly ducked their boxer, Jason Moloney to fight the old Donaire who still has the speed and strength.

I hope that Donaire will win the fight and claim the WBC title in order for the boxing council to somehow mandate title defense against top-ranked boxer in their list and that includes Jason Moloney. Top Rank will surely be forced to accept the deal. But the longer they are doing delays, the older Donaire is getting to.

Not sure though mate that is going to happen, Jason Moloney now targets the WBO belt and he has been dropped by the WBC in their rankings (maybe this is because he refused to fight Donaire).

But who knows, maybe if Donaire get the majority of the belts and then only the WBO belt is missing, then maybe a unification fight is inevitable. So let's see, Donaire has a few more fights in him, at least if he wins he should aim for another belt in this division.

[Fredomago]

Yes it was clearly a duck to me as well, how him and Top Rank try to avoid Donaire at all cost and just hiding on their own reasons like doesn't want to work with Probellum, Donaire's promotion but in the past did they that.

After all, Nonito Donaire is still considered a threat in the Bantamweight even after being beaten by Naoya Inoue as the Japanese are really on the highest level at 118 lbs and no one can beat this guy. Top Rank once again spoiled another big fight in the Bantamweight as they clearly ducked their boxer, Jason Moloney to fight the old Donaire who still has the speed and strength.

I hope that Donaire will win the fight and claim the WBC title in order for the boxing council to somehow mandate title defense against top-ranked boxer in their list and that includes Jason Moloney. Top Rank will surely be forced to accept the deal. But the longer they are doing delays, the older Donaire is getting to.

That's for sure, the longer the delay the chance that Donaire will retire first before the fight will take place, they are avoiding him since he really can still do the damage even at his age, I'm hoping that he will get the belt and have a title defense or another couple of fights before deciding to retire is gloves.

Let see what will future will dictate to his career and how he can push his way back being a title holder.

[Yaunfitda]

Yes it was clearly a duck to me as well, how him and Top Rank try to avoid Donaire at all cost and just hiding on their own reasons like doesn't want to work with Probellum, Donaire's promotion but in the past did they that.

After all, Nonito Donaire is still considered a threat in the Bantamweight even after being beaten by Naoya Inoue as the Japanese are really on the highest level at 118 lbs and no one can beat this guy. Top Rank once again spoiled another big fight in the Bantamweight as they clearly ducked their boxer, Jason Moloney to fight the old Donaire who still has the speed and strength.

I hope that Donaire will win the fight and claim the WBC title in order for the boxing council to somehow mandate title defense against top-ranked boxer in their list and that includes Jason Moloney. Top Rank will surely be forced to accept the deal. But the longer they are doing delays, the older Donaire is getting to.

That's for sure, the longer the delay the chance that Donaire will retire first before the fight will take place, they are avoiding him since he really can still do the damage even at his age, I'm hoping that he will get the belt and have a title defense or another couple of fights before deciding to retire is gloves.

Let see what will future will dictate to his career and how he can push his way back being a title holder.

Donaire now become the most feared bantamweight, and yes, hopefully we want him to see fight Moloney in the future, that is if their promotional company will have to sit down and forget about Bob's accusation on the people behind Probellum.

But if Moloney loses his fight against Astrolobio, then I don't see him fighting Donaire next.

He will have to back as challenger for the champions of any governing body as the fight has been settled as to who is going to fight who for the belt. So it's a one time chance for this boxers to win that vacated belt.

[chaser15]

But who knows, maybe if Donaire get the majority of the belts and then only the WBO belt is missing, then maybe a unification fight is inevitable. So let's see, Donaire has a few more fights in him, at least if he wins he should aim for another belt in this division.

Correct. The unification fight is the only way now for Nonito Donaire Jr. to face Jason Moloney in the future.

That's it if both boxers will able to achieve their respective target of getting the belts, the WBC title for Donaire, and the WBO title for Moloney. But anyhow, Donaire seems just ready for whoever he will face in the future because his time is running out now. As long as he keeps continuing to win, that's what matters.

Once he loses a fight from now on at this point of his career, I'm sure he will now retire.

[OgNasty]

In influencer boxing news… KSI just tweeted this:

“May 13th, I’ll do what Jake Paul couldn’t do.”

I assume that means KSI has lined up a fight with Tommy Fury and is saying that he’ll beat fury even though Jake Paul couldn’t. I sort of thought we’d be seeing a Fury rematch with Paul or even a new fight with Logan Paul, but maybe KSI is the one who got the call.

[danherbias07]

In influencer boxing news… KSI just tweeted this:

“May 13th, I’ll do what Jake Paul couldn’t do.”

I assume that means KSI has lined up a fight with Tommy Fury and is saying that he’ll beat fury even though Jake Paul couldn’t. I sort of thought we’d be seeing a Fury rematch with Paul or even a new fight with Logan Paul, but maybe KSI is the one who got the call.

I actually thought it will be KSI versus Jake Paul first. And the family feud between him and his brother Logan Paul will reach certain heights as Logan is friends with KSI. I guess that is the only thing that is keeping it from happening.
KSI versus Tommy Fury sounds like the better idea. Let's see if this will materialize. Jake Paul said there was a rematch clause in the contract and he talked with Tommy behind the camera about doing it again.
If that happens KSI may have to wait, putting an exact date in his tweet is intriguing though.

[AverageGlabella]

In influencer boxing news… KSI just tweeted this:

“May 13th, I’ll do what Jake Paul couldn’t do.”

I assume that means KSI has lined up a fight with Tommy Fury and is saying that he’ll beat fury even though Jake Paul couldn’t. I sort of thought we’d be seeing a Fury rematch with Paul or even a new fight with Logan Paul, but maybe KSI is the one who got the call.

I do not think so because there is no way that Ksi beats Tommy Fury he probably cannot beat Jake Paul so I do not know why he thinks he can beat Tommy Fury. I doubt they have signed a contract this close to the Jake Paul vs Tommy Fury fight concluding too. He is probably click baiting and trying to build hype but Ksi will be fighting other people before he starts fighting the pros.

[virasisog]

But who knows, maybe if Donaire gets the majority of the belts and then only the WBO belt is missing, then maybe a unification fight is inevitable. So let's see, Donaire has a few more fights in him, at least if he wins he should aim for another belt in this division.

Correct. The unification fight is the only way now for Nonito Donaire Jr. to face Jason Moloney in the future.

That's it if both boxers will able to achieve their respective target of getting the belts, the WBC title for Donaire, and the WBO title for Moloney. But anyhow, Donaire seems just ready for whoever he will face in the future because his time is running out now. As long as he keeps continuing to win, that's what matters.

Once he loses a fight from now on at this point of his career, I'm sure he will now retire.

He has consecutive losses so it's time for him to break the code. I hope he won't retire this early and aim for more belts because lots of supporters are still rooting for him. His goal before was to follow in the footsteps of Manny so quitting if ever he will lose another fight will be unreasonable. Since he's facing family issues nowadays, I hope he won't get distracted and would stay focused on his training since he only has a little time left.

[LUCKMCFLY]

I agree, it is better for Magsayo to be slick, and quick and must launch a scoring punch rather than a knock-out punch.  This way he can compete against Vargas in scoring.  Besides not putting much of force on the punches can render him more mobile and quick.  He should know when to launch heavy knockout punches and the scoring punches.  Sadly, Magsayo is all brawn and not using his brain during the fight against Vargas.  

For sure Magsayo's camp is already aware of those problems. If ever given a chance again to face Vargas, those problems will surely be addressed. Let's also consider the fact that Magsayo isn't really outscored in the match as he won the one judge.

Surely Magsayo has learned a thing or two about Vargas's strength and his weakness especially recently when Foster revealed how to defeat Vargas, although I'm not sure that Magsayo can use that one because they have a different fighting style and Foster is quite slick, that is why Vargas failed in his attempt. This time, Magsayo should level up his game because he will get embarrassed for sure if he didn't learn something from their first encounter.

He need to adjust and learn from his past mistake, adding more on his stamina so he can last long with good breathing, unlike with that first encounter where he didn't manage to win the fight, but for now better to focus with his upcoming fight and think about Vargas after he succeed with these opportunities to come back.

Let see if he will win and start preparing for the title fight if, in case Vargas will negotiate right after Magsayo wins his fight.

It looks like magsayo can survive and will fight as best he can and I think there is a chance for him to win the fight because in some news I heard he has prepared everything and is really training quite well in terms of attack defense and stamina or breathing.
That way I'm sure at the meeting of the fight he can fight well enough and beat vargas and can continue the fight to be able to take the championship belt.
This fight is a good opportunity for magsayo so he will prove and give his best to win.

Magsayo is a very complete boxer, I personally believe that when a boxer prepares at a very demanding level he can beat anyone, of course, only those who demand the most are the ones who have the best results, ideally One as a fan could know something about the training scheme and thus have privileged information to be able to have a much more accurate forecast, but it's all a matter of how he stands in the ring and manages to decipher his opponent well so that he can apply the best strategy.

This is not difficult, good training will always give the best results, it is hard, because boxing is not for everyone, but in this case Magsayo must show that he is the best.

And something to spice it up:

You owe us some money’ – John Fury sends warning to Jake Paul over Tommy Fury fight bet

Fury sealed a split decision victory over Paul in Saudi Arabia on Sunday night to settle a feud that had raged for almost two years.

Prior to fight night, the YouTuber-turned boxer raised the stakes, offering to give his rival his entire cut of the fight purse if he could become the first man to beat him.

John Fury eagerly agreed to those terms on his son’s behalf before the former Love Island star crossed the stage to shake hands and seal the deal.

Source: https://metro.co.uk/2023/03/01/john-fury-sends-warning-to-jake-paul-over-tommy-fury-fight-bet-18369562/?ito=newsnow-feed

[mirakal]

But who knows, maybe if Donaire gets the majority of the belts and then only the WBO belt is missing, then maybe a unification fight is inevitable. So let's see, Donaire has a few more fights in him, at least if he wins he should aim for another belt in this division.

Correct. The unification fight is the only way now for Nonito Donaire Jr. to face Jason Moloney in the future.

That's it if both boxers will able to achieve their respective target of getting the belts, the WBC title for Donaire, and the WBO title for Moloney. But anyhow, Donaire seems just ready for whoever he will face in the future because his time is running out now. As long as he keeps continuing to win, that's what matters.

Once he loses a fight from now on at this point of his career, I'm sure he will now retire.

He has consecutive losses so it's time for him to break the code. I hope he won't retire this early and aim for more belts because lots of supporters are still rooting for him. His goal before was to follow in the footsteps of Manny so quitting if ever he will lose another fight will be unreasonable. Since he's facing family issues nowadays, I hope he won't get distracted and would stay focused on his training since he only has a little time left.

Not consecutive because Donaire has been able to make a statement and defeat two boxers by a KO, that was after Donaire fought Inoue for the first time. His last 2 defeats were made by Inoue but not consecutive. So, back to the topic, hopefully Donaire can still make a name in the boxing industry and be a champion once again before he thinks about retirement.

[harizen]

He has consecutive losses so it's time for him to break the code. I hope he won't retire this early and aim for more belts because lots of supporters are still rooting for him.

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Only suffers 2 consecutive losses to Naoya Inoue. After being beaten by the Japanese monster, Donaire Jr. was able to bounce back with 2 impressive wins against Nordine Oubaali and Reymart Gaballo with a 4th Round TKO.

It shows that if we exclude Naoya Inoue from the discussion, Donaire is still deadly against other bantamweight boxers. His fight against Santiago for the vacant WBC Bantamweight title will the deciding point of his career if he still has the power to dominate the bantamweight division.

Later on, the PH boxing community is waiting for the clash between Mark Magsayo and Brandon Figueroa for the WBC Featherweight Interim match. The winner of this match will face the current WBC Featherweight champion, Rey Vargas who snatch the title from Magsayo Magsayo last year.

[goinmerry]

Yes it was clearly a duck to me as well, how him and Top Rank try to avoid Donaire at all cost and just hiding on their own reasons like doesn't want to work with Probellum, Donaire's promotion but in the past did they that.

After all, Nonito Donaire is still considered a threat in the Bantamweight even after being beaten by Naoya Inoue as the Japanese are really on the highest level at 118 lbs and no one can beat this guy. Top Rank once again spoiled another big fight in the Bantamweight as they clearly ducked their boxer, Jason Moloney to fight the old Donaire who still has the speed and strength.

I hope that Donaire will win the fight and claim the WBC title in order for the boxing council to somehow mandate title defense against top-ranked boxer in their list and that includes Jason Moloney. Top Rank will surely be forced to accept the deal. But the longer they are doing delays, the older Donaire is getting to.

Not sure though mate that is going to happen, Jason Moloney now targets the WBO belt and he has been dropped by the WBC in their rankings (maybe this is because he refused to fight Donaire).

But who knows, maybe if Donaire get the majority of the belts and then only the WBO belt is missing, then maybe a unification fight is inevitable. So let's see, Donaire has a few more fights in him, at least if he wins he should aim for another belt in this division.

Thanks for the input. Not aware that WBC dropped Jason Moloney on their ranking list.

As a result, that makes Nonito Donaire the number 1 rank in the WBC Bantamweight rankings.

But I can't seem to find the name of his next opponent, Alejandro Santiago, on the rankings. What a great opportunity for Santiago to fight for a title match even not on the top-ranking list.

[Silberman]

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And something to spice it up:

You owe us some money’ – John Fury sends warning to Jake Paul over Tommy Fury fight bet

Fury sealed a split decision victory over Paul in Saudi Arabia on Sunday night to settle a feud that had raged for almost two years.

Prior to fight night, the YouTuber-turned boxer raised the stakes, offering to give his rival his entire cut of the fight purse if he could become the first man to beat him.

John Fury eagerly agreed to those terms on his son’s behalf before the former Love Island star crossed the stage to shake hands and seal the deal.

Source: https://metro.co.uk/2023/03/01/john-fury-sends-warning-to-jake-paul-over-tommy-fury-fight-bet-18369562/?ito=newsnow-feed

Jake Paul has to pay that bet, even if there is not a written contract the terms were extremely simple and they both agreed to it, and if he refuses I think Tommy Fury has enough grounds to take this to court and win, and at that point most likely he will have to pay for the lawyers expenses and the interests accumulated during that time too, so he better pays up, besides if he refuses this will be a hit to his reputation as we will know his word is worth nothing on his eyes and he is willing to go back so easily on it.

[DoublerHunter]

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And something to spice it up:

You owe us some money’ – John Fury sends warning to Jake Paul over Tommy Fury fight bet

Fury sealed a split decision victory over Paul in Saudi Arabia on Sunday night to settle a feud that had raged for almost two years.

Prior to fight night, the YouTuber-turned boxer raised the stakes, offering to give his rival his entire cut of the fight purse if he could become the first man to beat him.

John Fury eagerly agreed to those terms on his son’s behalf before the former Love Island star crossed the stage to shake hands and seal the deal.

Source: https://metro.co.uk/2023/03/01/john-fury-sends-warning-to-jake-paul-over-tommy-fury-fight-bet-18369562/?ito=newsnow-feed

Jake Paul has to pay that bet, even if there is not a written contract the terms were extremely simple and they both agreed to it, and if he refuses I think Tommy Fury has enough grounds to take this to court and win, and at that point most likely he will have to pay for the lawyers expenses and the interests accumulated during that time too, so he better pays up, besides if he refuses this will be a hit to his reputation as we will know his word is worth nothing on his eyes and he is willing to go back so easily on it.

^ That is right, if there is a dispute over the terms of a bet or agreement, it is always best to have a written contract to avoid confusion or misunderstandings. This helps to establish clear expectations and ensures that both parties understand their obligations. Because for me, if Jake Paul made a bet with Tommy Fury and both parties agreed to the terms, then Jake Paul should honor the bet and pay up, regardless of whether or not there was a written contract. Reneging on a bet could certainly damage his reputation and could be he is not a trustworthy person.

[Baofeng]

Yes it was clearly a duck to me as well, how him and Top Rank try to avoid Donaire at all cost and just hiding on their own reasons like doesn't want to work with Probellum, Donaire's promotion but in the past did they that.

After all, Nonito Donaire is still considered a threat in the Bantamweight even after being beaten by Naoya Inoue as the Japanese are really on the highest level at 118 lbs and no one can beat this guy. Top Rank once again spoiled another big fight in the Bantamweight as they clearly ducked their boxer, Jason Moloney to fight the old Donaire who still has the speed and strength.

I hope that Donaire will win the fight and claim the WBC title in order for the boxing council to somehow mandate title defense against top-ranked boxer in their list and that includes Jason Moloney. Top Rank will surely be forced to accept the deal. But the longer they are doing delays, the older Donaire is getting to.

Not sure though mate that is going to happen, Jason Moloney now targets the WBO belt and he has been dropped by the WBC in their rankings (maybe this is because he refused to fight Donaire).

But who knows, maybe if Donaire get the majority of the belts and then only the WBO belt is missing, then maybe a unification fight is inevitable. So let's see, Donaire has a few more fights in him, at least if he wins he should aim for another belt in this division.

Thanks for the input. Not aware that WBC dropped Jason Moloney on their ranking list.

As a result, that makes Nonito Donaire the number 1 rank in the WBC Bantamweight rankings.

But I can't seem to find the name of his next opponent, Alejandro Santiago, on the rankings. What a great opportunity for Santiago to fight for a title match even not on the top-ranking list.

Here mate, the official WBC ranking for their bantamweight class: https://wbcboxing.com/en/bantamweight/

Alejandro Santiago (Barrios) is rank number 4. And yes, Nonito is now rank number 1. And the number 2 Nawaphon Sor Rungvisai, which I thought to be Donaire's opponent for the belt will fight another Filipino in Reymart Gaballo, it is called a title eliminator but obviously the fight between Donaire and Santiago is for the vacant belt already. But maybe the winner of Gaballo vs Sor Rungvisai will fight the champion next.

[serjent05]

Here mate, the official WBC ranking for their bantamweight class: https://wbcboxing.com/en/bantamweight/

Alejandro Santiago (Barrios) is rank number 4. And yes, Nonito is now rank number 1. And the number 2 Nawaphon Sor Rungvisai, which I thought to be Donaire's opponent for the belt will fight another Filipino in Reymart Gaballo, it is called a title eliminator but obviously the fight between Donaire and Santiago is for the vacant belt already. But maybe the winner of Gaballo vs Sor Rungvisai will fight the champion next.

It is highly likely to happen that the winner between Gaballo and Sor Rungvisai will fight the winner between Nonito Donaire and Alejandro Santiago because whoever the winner between Gaballo and Sor Rungvisai will become the no.1 challenger of the title if ever a mandatory title defense is triggered.

Now it is interesting if both Filipinos won the fight, Gaballo had lost once to Nonito Donaire via 4th round KO so it would be interesting to watch if Gaballo had improved and be able to dominate a fight against Donaire.

[btc_angela]

^ Yes, it's going to be difficult to see another clash of Filipinos, but if Donaire has to do it again, knocking this kid out, then he has to do it.

And there is another one right, Vincent Astrolabio, who seems to be a journeyman but now he is rated in 3/4 bodies and will go and fight for the belt as well. So a lot of Filipinos in this division as it is very suited for their height and weight. Would be interesting if we have 2 out of 4 Filipinos holding the belt, not sure if this has happen before.

[Fredomago]

^ Yes, it's going to be difficult to see another clash of Filipinos, but if Donaire has to do it again, knocking this kid out, then he has to do it.

And there is another one right, Vincent Astrolabio, who seems to be a journeyman but now he is rated in 3/4 bodies and will go and fight for the belt as well. So a lot of Filipinos in this division as it is very suited for their height and weight. Would be interesting if we have 2 out of 4 Filipinos holding the belt, not sure if this has happen before.

Not sure as well, but if remember it right Donaire and Casimero holds same weight right? I mean the time when Casimero still the champ he was with Inoue, Donaire and him, I remember way back that he's challenging Inoue but the monster choose to have a rematch with Donaire and Butler was the one who schedule for Casimero but due to failure to meet the required weight he has been stripped.

Not sure if that's relevant, but anyway, I also wanted to see more Pinoys to hold the belt and be that title holder from this division.

[Natalim]

Yes it was clearly a duck to me as well, how him and Top Rank try to avoid Donaire at all cost and just hiding on their own reasons like doesn't want to work with Probellum, Donaire's promotion but in the past did they that.

After all, Nonito Donaire is still considered a threat in the Bantamweight even after being beaten by Naoya Inoue as the Japanese are really on the highest level at 118 lbs and no one can beat this guy. Top Rank once again spoiled another big fight in the Bantamweight as they clearly ducked their boxer, Jason Moloney to fight the old Donaire who still has the speed and strength.

I hope that Donaire will win the fight and claim the WBC title in order for the boxing council to somehow mandate title defense against top-ranked boxer in their list and that includes Jason Moloney. Top Rank will surely be forced to accept the deal. But the longer they are doing delays, the older Donaire is getting to.

Not sure though mate that is going to happen, Jason Moloney now targets the WBO belt and he has been dropped by the WBC in their rankings (maybe this is because he refused to fight Donaire).

But who knows, maybe if Donaire get the majority of the belts and then only the WBO belt is missing, then maybe a unification fight is inevitable. So let's see, Donaire has a few more fights in him, at least if he wins he should aim for another belt in this division.

For now, that's not going to happen because both mentioned boxers are campaigning for a different belt, WBO for Moloney and WBC for Donaire but yes, maybe in the future, fate will make these two boxers collide with each other so that we can see who's who and which is which. But it's worth to note that Moloney declined the WBC's offer because he is facing Donaire, so that already means something and maybe he will duck again sometime soon until Donaire will retire.