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August 08, 2023, 06:23:54 PM
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I also though that when this fight was settled then there isn't any rematch but Jake Paul have said that he wants to fight Nate Diaz into MMA I was really shocked and think that this is the mistake that he have done in his career because Nate Diaz will surely Pulverize him in the MMA rules and with those small MMA gloves that they are using for sure Nate Diaz will be much comfortable and faster when they fight it's like taking of his hand cuffs when they fought in boxing that is how much constricting the gloves on boxing is,


For sure Nate Diaz will pulverize the crap out of Jake Paul sure when this MMA fight happened, and many fans surely want to see that, Well to see Nate Diaz beating the crap out of Jake Paul that Nate Diaz is not the dude to be a mess with because Boxing and MMA are two different sports and when it comes to MMA Nate Diaz is really good at it, and for sure Nate Diaz still has the chin, in making the fight go the distance,


Well not cool for me to see legends getting beaten by upcoming fighters that they could've easily beaten in their primes or in Nate's case in his preferred sport. I was actually thinking of betting on Paul even if I will never watch the fight but then I felt like there's a lot of pride in there for Nate to just take a dive. So I thought a possible hail mary punch could make an upset.

I don't know what's next for Jake Paul. Maybe he should accept the challenge from female boxer Claressa Shields. Cheesy I am pretty sure to watch it live if it happens. That girl will put a beating on the special child. Cheesy

Well, if that punch of Jake Paul could have a 1 punch power and because it is a Slim MMA glove they are using he could surely knock out Nate Diaz fast, so there surely has a chance for Jake Paul winning against Nate Diaz in the MMA, but I give him that, because that is a winning shot for Jake Paul because for sure he will struggle in learning and practicing wrestling and grappling for sure even his brother couldn't help him with this because Logan also lack some aspect with grappling,

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August 08, 2023, 07:48:15 PM
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Not sure if you are aware that the Joshua vs Whyte fight has been cancelled already due to Dillian Whyte tested positive for some ban substance through Voluntary Anti-Doping Association (VADA).

In any case, match room's Eddie Hearn can find a replacement fighter here so that this fight is not totally postponed as others boxers in the undercard have prepared already. And for sure we will follow the case as Whyte is going to appeal and proved that he is innocence.

Dang! I didn't know that thanks for the info, it surely helps surely I haven't seen the news until I have seen some comments on Tapology this one


Then you confirmed with your post it was a bummer because we don't have pretty much upcoming good fights, although this is not really a good fight because Dillian Whyte is a picked fighter for Anthony Joshua so it is still a bummer for canceling the fight and Tapology not updating their post about it,
The replacement for the fight will be Robert Helenius who has just some few days to prepare to fight one of the biggest names in boxing. I do not know how well he will be able to perform against Anthony Joshua since it is an impromptu arrangement, but he has fought some other people and has very good experience in the ring with top rated boxers like Deontay Wilder, Derek Chisora and others, so he can pull a surprising upset in the game fight. In his last fight, he was knocked out Deontay Wilder and can also be knocked out by Anthony Joshua if he gets hit by Anthony Joshua's fist.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/boxing/anthony-joshua-replacement-whyte-helenius-27478291


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August 08, 2023, 09:27:15 PM
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Source: https://www.dazn.com/en-US/news/boxing/stephen-fulton-posts-reaction-following-naoya-inoue-loss/10j0j4pso5rsx15754a8n9vdeu

In spite of everything, what I have said is what he wants, a simple and good revenge, worthy of someone like Fulton, for now what they are going to concentrate on, I am sure it will be the fights that are coming for Inoue It is something exciting because the fighters in this category are going to want to measure themselves against him, in part they must be quite curious, because a new boxer in the category and he does these things, it is something that I like a lot , this makes the category more dynamic. I am sure that when Inoue achieves his goals here, he will continue to grow and search for a new category,  for me this Inoue is like a genius of the sport.

Fulton's reaction to this loss seems kind of poor to me. He is not giving any credit to Inoue and instead only talks about himself. If he thinks he deserves a rematch then he is delusional. He didn't win a single round. Inoue has nothing to prove and should just move on. It wasn't that Fulton had an off night as he claims, it's just that Inoue is superior in every way imaginable. Fulton should instead focus on rematching Brandon Figueroa since that was a controversial decision that deserves a second fight.

Yeah, it really haven't sink in to his skull that a Asian boy beat his ass to the ground, knock him out and he can't bounce back. Not very sportsman like coming for Stephen Fulton. And that's why a slew of fans are on a offensive on him, even his own fans saying that he should move on because they know he can bounce back but at least give credit where credit is due, that is he lost to Inoue.

Now, moving forward for Inoue, he is looking for Tapales, and at a very young age, he is setting a record that might not be duplicated. To become a 4 belt champion in 2 division. And who knows where he is going to stop. Maybe at 126 lbs, he can still continue and dominant as if it is still the bantamweight division.

Well, this is something very good, because if things happen with Tapales, it wouldn't be bad, although Fulton is not very happy, he said that things didn't work out for him, but he is worthy of a boxer who is going to ask for revenge, Although before Pedri has a rematch, they have to do a training from another world so that he can be at the level of Inoue, if Tapales is at the true level for Inoue, let it happen, because otherwise there is no point in organizing a fight so that it is very easy for Inoue, Inoue is a boxer who must already fight with the most famous and must show why he changed categories, and this is undoubtedly what will silence many who do not believe in the Japanese.

Here is something that may be relevant to Inoue:

Here is something that may be relevant to Inoue:



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Five weight classes in, and Naoya Inoue hasn’t found a single fighter that can push him to his physical limits. (photo by Ryan Hafey)

After taking care of business in the bantamweight division, Inoue (25-0, 22 KOs) looked around despondently. There was simply nothing more to prove. Becoming an undisputed world champion was a fun journey but after placing a checkmark next to that goal, the 30-year-old Japanese star needed something new to conquer.

Stephen Fulton became the perfect target. He was a well known name, had an undefeated record, was as skillful as they come, and most importantly, held both the WBC and WBO super bantamweight titles.

Source: https://www.boxingscene.com/naoya-inoue-get-destroyed-by-gervonta-davis-says-assistant-trainer--176636



Well even the same things can go in a very focused direction that they can make Inpue fight with Davis, I don't know, but I think it would be a very interesting fight, however I could say that things with this boxer could turn out in the best way, Personally, I think that Inoue is on another level, despite the fact that he is testing this category, he has a great level as a boxer and can do things very well, be it with Davis or with whomever, I am curious that fights of the same type can take place. Japanese with several of the most famous boxers in this category, I understand that Davis's promoters say these things to provoke a good fight, maybe now everyone wants to fight Inoue, but it is up to the Japanese to accept the challenges.

Personally, boxers should not say so many things about Inoue, he has earned respect for many things he has done, so far he has not done well, he has not lost to anyone, boxers in this category should respect a little more the trajectory of this boxer.

Steph Fulton can pursue a rematch, he does have the right for it if he wishes so but that is if Inoue's camp will still be interested on him because he doesn't have anything left to offer now and for the latter, it's already a closed chapter and they are now approaching to their new journey without Fulton's name being involved.
Unifying all the belts in super bantam is now their main goal and after that, it is said that Inoue will have a few mandatory title defense before he again moves to the next division.

Anyway, about Tank Davis, he's good and I'll give him that. A battle against Naoya Inoue will be a perfect sight to see because they are both powerful and a KO artisan but they are just too far away with each other now. Furthermore, I don't even expect that Davis will pave a way and will meet Inoue at 130 pounds. It's a good fight but I don't think we can witness that soon.
But it's a shame because this fight or this type of fight is what boxing needs , Whenever there is a Rematch it's good to see and that the boxer gives it , that you don't have to go by the clauses because that's something that takes time They have to do a lot of paperwork, that's always something they have to talk about a lot , the best thing is to give him his revenge , but what I want is to see Inoue with the best, it doesn't matter, maybe this boxer is Getting there to the category , Everyone wants to fight him, and this is a good start for all boxers to Begin to see Inoue as the Strongest Rival.


There's not much to see in the first place Grin Just two good actors fooling the crowd while collecting their paychecks at the end of the event. Sadly, that figure you mentioned is just too high from what did Nate Diaz got from that fight because in this article, it was said that Nate was just given a guaranteed $500k (PPV not included) while Jake Paul brought home $2 Million. On the bright side, that is 150k more from Nate's last fight against Tony Ferguson in the UFC as he was just given $350k at that time.

Not bad at all, just a single no sparring and you'll get $500k and with that easy payout they are bringing hypes for possible rematch, and if that will materialize another addition to their paychecks, I'm not a hater but we all know that there's nothing in this fight though there are fans who loves to see their idols fighting the Paul's bros', that huge numbers of followers are bringing more millions for them, oh well, just another collection day for those performers and hopefully live viewers and PPV are also did enjoy the performances.

Well, when we see that there are boxers who have so much money, even if they lose, it is something that will always exist. I have always said that despite the fact that there is so much interest in boxing, there are always very large business models that are above the sport, but who against them if they are the ones with the money? who is it? If they say no, well, no event is held, these types of things are what normally have to be taken into consideration, we are simply boxing fans, but the Amount of things that are moved to hold events is impressive In particular , I Would say that the more famous the boxer is, the more people will be attracted, if not, I think they will not achieve anything, just seeing the great event of Crawford vs. Spence, which was not the same as that of Nonito and Santiago , In this case Jake Paul has yet another event grabbing for the handle , and it is the Possible rematch, it is what I see still feasible.

Nate Diaz opens as overwhelming favorite to beat Jake Paul in potential MMA rematch



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Paul defeated Nate Diaz in a 10-round boxing match on Saturday, claiming a one-sided unanimous decision over the UFC veteran at the American Airlines Center in Dallas. The bout was Diaz’s professional boxing debut, and afterward much of the conversation shifted to Paul’s challenge of a $10 million rematch back in Diaz’s stomping grounds of MMA.

Paul is now 7-1 as a professional boxer but has never competed in MMA. And if he plans to follow through on his promise, he’ll make his MMA debut as a massive underdog.

Paul opened as more than a 6-to-1 underdog (+650) in a potential MMA rematch rematch against Diaz, with the Stockton native coming in as an overwhelming 12-to-1 favorite (-1200), according to opening betting lines released Sunday by online bookmaker BetOnline.

For the uninitiated, that means a bettor would have to wager a whopping $1,200 sum on Diaz in order to make $100 of profit if he defeats Paul in an MMA rematch.

Source: https://www.mmafighting.com/2023/8/8/23822135/nate-diaz-opens-as-overwhelming-favorite-to-beat-jake-paul-in-potential-mma-rematch

Well, one of the things that I like about Jake Paul is that he is a conscientious fighter, nothing goes to his head, he knows that things are very big in fights, to reach them is difficult, if he is going to give a rematch is because he likes the sport, he understands his opponent and that's what matters, there are many fighters who when they beat their opponents don't give them a chance for a rematch , which I don't think so, but in this case it's different An example that we all saw was that of Crawford when Spence did not want him to get revenge , and the outcome after a Few Years was Evident , life teaches and hits.

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August 08, 2023, 11:39:28 PM
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Not sure if you are aware that the Joshua vs Whyte fight has been cancelled already due to Dillian Whyte tested positive for some ban substance through Voluntary Anti-Doping Association (VADA).

In any case, match room's Eddie Hearn can find a replacement fighter here so that this fight is not totally postponed as others boxers in the undercard have prepared already. And for sure we will follow the case as Whyte is going to appeal and proved that he is innocence.

Dang! I didn't know that thanks for the info, it surely helps surely I haven't seen the news until I have seen some comments on Tapology this one


Then you confirmed with your post it was a bummer because we don't have pretty much upcoming good fights, although this is not really a good fight because Dillian Whyte is a picked fighter for Anthony Joshua so it is still a bummer for canceling the fight and Tapology not updating their post about it,
The replacement for the fight will be Robert Helenius who has just some few days to prepare to fight one of the biggest names in boxing. I do not know how well he will be able to perform against Anthony Joshua since it is an impromptu arrangement, but he has fought some other people and has very good experience in the ring with top rated boxers like Deontay Wilder, Derek Chisora and others, so he can pull a surprising upset in the game fight. In his last fight, he was knocked out Deontay Wilder and can also be knocked out by Anthony Joshua if he gets hit by Anthony Joshua's fist.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/boxing/anthony-joshua-replacement-whyte-helenius-27478291



It is, at best, a mid matchup. Helenius is old, and his last bout is against a relatively new fighter in the professional scene. His knockout against Wilder proves that he's not the type to go against the current greats in his division. Pretty sure that he'll get worked pretty easily by Anthony Joshua in their upcoming fight, given that he hasn't really had enough time to prepare for this fight due to it being short notice and him acting as a replacement. Odds will be stacked against this dude, and it's safe to say that it's not a bet that most will be willing to take unless they want to collect a few % gains on their capital.

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Well, Nate Diaz hurt Jake Paul's ego in their fight for sure that is why he wanted a rematch and now in the MMA format rules, which is Jake Paul wants to prove that he can beat Nate Diaz even in MMA,


It is a fact, now things must be even better for him, what if I am about to wait is that Jake Paul's training must be much stronger, I know that in boxing things happen when the training is hard, in fact, a boxer wins a fight is in his training, in the fight he only goes to practice what he took from that training, nothing else, I see it that way, in fact several of my friends who train think the same, unless the day After the fight, the boxer has an ailment, or is sick, something like that, but it rarely happens.

Regarding this fight, anything can happen when the rematches take place, in fact that is what gives these fights their spice, I actually like that things are like this and that after the fights they are like this the floor ask for revenge and both say yes, for me that is the spirit of the sport that is worth doing.


Not sure if you are aware that the Joshua vs Whyte fight has been cancelled already due to Dillian Whyte tested positive for some ban substance through Voluntary Anti-Doping Association (VADA).

In any case, match room's Eddie Hearn can find a replacement fighter here so that this fight is not totally postponed as others boxers in the undercard have prepared already. And for sure we will follow the case as Whyte is going to appeal and proved that he is innocence.

Dang! I didn't know that thanks for the info, it surely helps surely I haven't seen the news until I have seen some comments on Tapology this one


Then you confirmed with your post it was a bummer because we don't have pretty much upcoming good fights, although this is not really a good fight because Dillian Whyte is a picked fighter for Anthony Joshua so it is still a bummer for canceling the fight and Tapology not updating their post about it,
The replacement for the fight will be Robert Helenius who has just some few days to prepare to fight one of the biggest names in boxing. I do not know how well he will be able to perform against Anthony Joshua since it is an impromptu arrangement, but he has fought some other people and has very good experience in the ring with top rated boxers like Deontay Wilder, Derek Chisora and others, so he can pull a surprising upset in the game fight. In his last fight, he was knocked out Deontay Wilder and can also be knocked out by Anthony Joshua if he gets hit by Anthony Joshua's fist.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/boxing/anthony-joshua-replacement-whyte-helenius-27478291



It is, at best, a mid matchup. Helenius is old, and his last bout is against a relatively new fighter in the professional scene. His knockout against Wilder proves that he's not the type to go against the current greats in his division. Pretty sure that he'll get worked pretty easily by Anthony Joshua in their upcoming fight, given that he hasn't really had enough time to prepare for this fight due to it being short notice and him acting as a replacement. Odds will be stacked against this dude, and it's safe to say that it's not a bet that most will be willing to take unless they want to collect a few % gains on their capital.

I would also lean towards Oshua in this case, although it is quite unfortunate about the boxer who tested positive for doping, but it is very good that they were able to resolve it somehow, although I would have liked it with another boxer, not because he is old or something like that, sometimes veteran boxers have so much technique and strategies to win that they can pass over any young man, the point here is that things with little training just don't play in his favor , for It is extremely important to train early , or the only way is to train very strictly to see if you can achieve good results, but it is at great risk that you lose the fight, it is not so easy to prepare the body in a Short time.

and:

Robert Helenius = “Dangerous fight” for Anthony Joshua says Eddie Hearn





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By Brian Webber: Eddie Hearn has concerns about the risks involved for his Matchroom flagship fighter Anthony Joshua going up against the “dangerous” slugger Robert Helenius on less than one week’s notice for their twelve round headliners this Saturday, August 12th, at the O2 Arena in London, England. Like the opponent he’s replacing, Dillian Whyte, Helenius (32-4, 21 KOs) knows this is his chance to make life-changing retirement money by knocking Joshua (25-3, 22 KOs) out on Saturday to set up a multi-million payday in the rematch.

Source: Robert Helenius = "Dangerous Fight" For Anthony Joshua Says Eddie Hearn - Boxing News 24 (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/08/robert-helenius-dangerous-fight-for-anthony-joshua-says-eddie-hearn/)


Source: https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/08/robert-helenius-dangerous-fight-for-anthony-joshua-says-eddie-hearn/

Well things are starting to heat up here, there are many speculations, apparently they want to protect Joshua, but of course everything here Depends on the person, how good they are at resolving a fight in such a short time, that is something that is very difficult , Here if the talent that the person tempts plays a lot and the genius that I have to be able to prepare in a short time, I really admire this position because boxers always have a very peculiar way of plowing their strategies, and time here is not an ally, so they have to do something very quickly , or at Least your strategy has to be very accurate and direct to give good results.




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August 09, 2023, 07:20:50 AM
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For sure Nate Diaz will pulverize the crap out of Jake Paul sure when this MMA fight happened, and many fans surely want to see that, Well to see Nate Diaz beating the crap out of Jake Paul that Nate Diaz is not the dude to be a mess with because Boxing and MMA are two different sports and when it comes to MMA Nate Diaz is really good at it, and for sure Nate Diaz still has the chin, in making the fight go the distance,


For sure there are many audience for that event again all fans of Jake Paul, all fans of Nate Diaz, all non-fans that hated Jake Paul, all people that are just curious on what kind of MMA will Jake Paul should showcase, is it just boxing or a mix of wrestling, because we all know the level of wrestling Nate Diaz have, and fore sure that level of wrestling offense and defense we would likely also see in this fights, not just striking and wrestling alone, so for sure there are a lot of technical aspect when it comes to MMA so it is a little bit complicated but let's just wait on what Jake Paul would showcase,


It is, at best, a mid matchup. Helenius is old, and his last bout is against a relatively new fighter in the professional scene. His knockout against Wilder proves that he's not the type to go against the current greats in his division. Pretty sure that he'll get worked pretty easily by Anthony Joshua in their upcoming fight, given that he hasn't really had enough time to prepare for this fight due to it being short notice and him acting as a replacement. Odds will be stacked against this dude, and it's safe to say that it's not a bet that most will be willing to take unless they want to collect a few % gains on their capital.

39 years old is surely old enough to be in his prime, and yes due to father time this fight will be hard for Robert Helenius, but for sure there is a side that this fight could also be dangerous for Anthony Joshua because Robert Helenius can still punch hard and one punch is all he needs to KO Anthony Joshua, but for sure this is also a picked fight, but Robert Helenius can also pull an upset but there is just 30% possibility for it, this is just what my thought about the change,


It is a fact, now things must be even better for him, what if I am about to wait is that Jake Paul's training must be much stronger, I know that in boxing things happen when the training is hard, in fact, a boxer wins a fight is in his training, in the fight he only goes to practice what he took from that training, nothing else, I see it that way, in fact several of my friends who train think the same, unless the day After the fight, the boxer has an ailment, or is sick, something like that, but it rarely happens.

Regarding this fight, anything can happen when the rematches take place, in fact that is what gives these fights their spice, I actually like that things are like this and that after the fights they are like this the floor ask for revenge and both say yes, for me that is the spirit of the sport that is worth doing.


For sure there are many that will be curious in what will Jake Paul would do with this fight this is MMA Jake Paul could likely still goes with just boxing and because it is MMA gloves that is slightly not that thick it could damage Nate Diaz with just 1 punch, we all know when a boxer don't have any gloves it is more deadly, for sure, or he could likely have mixed boxing and wrestling and Logan Paul his brother could help him with his training,

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I think that this is how boxing has been in recent years, but a boxer should never have that thought "sometimes I win, sometimes I lose", it is the marketing of today in terms of boxing quality.  As for the rivalry between boxers for rematches, it's a classic in the sport of punches, it's not pride, it's money, it's just the idea they sell.

Boxers will always find ways to win and doesn't want to lose. Obviously, there is rivalry building if they will have a rematch because the other party wanted to avenge the lost he got.

But I do agree that everything is all for the money here, yeah you can call that they have pride, but if there are huge money in the line then definitely that will be the motivation for them to fight the second time. Like what Spence wanted against Crawford, take a revenge, but this time he wanted it at 154 lbs.

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I think that this is how boxing has been in recent years, but a boxer should never have that thought "sometimes I win, sometimes I lose", it is the marketing of today in terms of boxing quality.  As for the rivalry between boxers for rematches, it's a classic in the sport of punches, it's not pride, it's money, it's just the idea they sell.

Boxers will always find ways to win and doesn't want to lose. Obviously, there is rivalry building if they will have a rematch because the other party wanted to avenge the lost he got.

But I do agree that everything is all for the money here, yeah you can call that they have pride, but if there are huge money in the line then definitely that will be the motivation for them to fight the second time. Like what Spence wanted against Crawford, take a revenge, but this time he wanted it at 154 lbs.

It's pride and money, but money has a bigger weight than pride. Maybe most of the boxers nowadays want money over pride, but I know some boxers who stick with their pride even if there's a huge amount of money to be made. I will give an example: Mayweather retired undefeated. If he still wanted more money, he could have continued to fight until he lost his popularity. Another boxer is Juan Manuel Marquez. After he defeated Pacquiao, he didn't have another fight anymore, despite being offered a lot of money.


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The replacement for the fight will be Robert Helenius who has just some few days to prepare to fight one of the biggest names in boxing. I do not know how well he will be able to perform against Anthony Joshua since it is an impromptu arrangement, but he has fought some other people and has very good experience in the ring with top rated boxers like Deontay Wilder, Derek Chisora and others, so he can pull a surprising upset in the game fight. In his last fight, he was knocked out Deontay Wilder and can also be knocked out by Anthony Joshua if he gets hit by Anthony Joshua's fist.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/boxing/anthony-joshua-replacement-whyte-helenius-27478291



Dang! They really are spoon-feeding Anthony Joshua with old fighters so his confidence will get higher but this is the 1st time these two boxers will face each other and for me, Robert Helenius can still punch so he is still a threat to Anthony Joshua as we all know Robert Helenius have faced Deontay Wilder, Dillian Whyte, so he surely got an experience in fighting bigger guns fighters,


But it's a shame because this fight or this type of fight is what boxing needs , Whenever there is a Rematch it's good to see and that the boxer gives it , that you don't have to go by the clauses because that's something that takes time They have to do a lot of paperwork, that's always something they have to talk about a lot , the best thing is to give him his revenge , but what I want is to see Inoue with the best, it doesn't matter, maybe this boxer is Getting there to the category , Everyone wants to fight him, and this is a good start for all boxers to Begin to see Inoue as the Strongest Rival.

Fulton has the right to make a rematch but yeah it is on Naoya Inoue if he wants to make it happen that fight has surely got a higher earn because these two are surely known, and well Stephen Fulton just got an alibi that he doesn't get his good performance so he is to blame in losing but for me, it is a sure clean win for Naoya Inoue but they can still get their rematch but Naoya Inoue camp is now preparing to move forward and eyeing their focus on the Filipino fighter Marlon Tapales,

Not bad at all, just a single no sparring and you'll get $500k and with that easy payout they are bringing hypes for possible rematch, and if that will materialize another addition to their paychecks, I'm not a hater but we all know that there's nothing in this fight though there are fans who loves to see their idols fighting the Paul's bros', that huge numbers of followers are bringing more millions for them, oh well, just another collection day for those performers and hopefully live viewers and PPV are also did enjoy the performances.

For sure there are still many who wants to witness those fights because of the high earning the fight got, so for sure there are many that have watched that fight and for me, I am not a hater of this kind of event, and a great opportunity for UFC to get higher earnings and the 1 person that is surely mad about what is happening now is only Dana White because many will eventually compare the earnings of Nate Diaz now than him on the UFC,
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August 09, 2023, 06:48:56 PM
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For sure Nate Diaz will pulverize the crap out of Jake Paul sure when this MMA fight happened, and many fans surely want to see that, Well to see Nate Diaz beating the crap out of Jake Paul that Nate Diaz is not the dude to be a mess with because Boxing and MMA are two different sports and when it comes to MMA Nate Diaz is really good at it, and for sure Nate Diaz still has the chin, in making the fight go the distance,


For sure there are many audience for that event again all fans of Jake Paul, all fans of Nate Diaz, all non-fans that hated Jake Paul, all people that are just curious on what kind of MMA will Jake Paul should showcase, is it just boxing or a mix of wrestling, because we all know the level of wrestling Nate Diaz have, and fore sure that level of wrestling offense and defense we would likely also see in this fights, not just striking and wrestling alone, so for sure there are a lot of technical aspect when it comes to MMA so it is a little bit complicated but let's just wait on what Jake Paul would showcase,

I reckon that it is very much more interesting to see rather than watching these boxing fights that we already know who will win and who will lose. They can hype it and market it to the crowd as like the outcome is not yet sure but no MMA fighter had a successful debut in his boxing career after retiring as a professional MMA fighter, that's just fact.

But in their possible rematch, it will be a new sight to see because I think it will be the first time as well. We might know we may win but it's just too interesting how the fight will go.
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August 09, 2023, 07:51:36 PM
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For sure Nate Diaz will pulverize the crap out of Jake Paul sure when this MMA fight happened, and many fans surely want to see that, Well to see Nate Diaz beating the crap out of Jake Paul that Nate Diaz is not the dude to be a mess with because Boxing and MMA are two different sports and when it comes to MMA Nate Diaz is really good at it, and for sure Nate Diaz still has the chin, in making the fight go the distance,


For sure there are many audience for that event again all fans of Jake Paul, all fans of Nate Diaz, all non-fans that hated Jake Paul, all people that are just curious on what kind of MMA will Jake Paul should showcase, is it just boxing or a mix of wrestling, because we all know the level of wrestling Nate Diaz have, and fore sure that level of wrestling offense and defense we would likely also see in this fights, not just striking and wrestling alone, so for sure there are a lot of technical aspect when it comes to MMA so it is a little bit complicated but let's just wait on what Jake Paul would showcase,

I reckon that it is very much more interesting to see rather than watching these boxing fights that we already know who will win and who will lose. They can hype it and market it to the crowd as like the outcome is not yet sure but no MMA fighter had a successful debut in his boxing career after retiring as a professional MMA fighter, that's just fact.

But in their possible rematch, it will be a new sight to see because I think it will be the first time as well. We might know we may win but it's just too interesting how the fight will go.

A boxing rematch would be possible if Jake offers more than Nate got from this fight which could happen if Jake negotiates. Bringing the fight to UFC will make Jake negotiate for the fight to happen in boxing again than in UFC. I doubt Jake will put himself in a losing situation again after Tommy humiliates him.

Meanwhile, KSI & Logan Paul will have double main event against Tom Fury and Dillion Danis this OCT 14
https://twitter.com/MF_DAZNXSeries/status/1688958441602134021

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August 10, 2023, 06:54:21 AM
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^That's still far but I will be checking it out.

A title fight will happen this Saturday in Glendale, Arizona. 7 PM Eastern time.
Emanuel Navarrete versus Oscar Valdez - Title: WBO Junior Lightweight

Navarrete - 37-1-31(KO's) | 28 years old | 72" reach | Odds: 2.31
Valdez - 31-1-23 (KO's) | 32 years old | 66" reach | Odds: 1.60

I've read some analysis on why Valdez is the favorite. They say Valdez's Olympic amateur background will help a lot in this fight. But Navarrete is a volume puncher so if most of his punches will land, it will become problematic for Valdez trying to win the scorecard back.
I say it will also end in a unanimous decision or a split decision because fighters are actually good at their punching skills. Footwork and cardio might become a problem for the older fighter too. It's actually difficult to predict who will win despite the odds being far.

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August 10, 2023, 09:04:58 AM
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^That's still far but I will be checking it out.

A title fight will happen this Saturday in Glendale, Arizona. 7 PM Eastern time.
Emanuel Navarrete versus Oscar Valdez - Title: WBO Junior Lightweight

Navarrete - 37-1-31(KO's) | 28 years old | 72" reach | Odds: 2.31
Valdez - 31-1-23 (KO's) | 32 years old | 66" reach | Odds: 1.60

I've read some analysis on why Valdez is the favorite. They say Valdez's Olympic amateur background will help a lot in this fight. But Navarrete is a volume puncher so if most of his punches will land, it will become problematic for Valdez trying to win the scorecard back.
I say it will also end in a unanimous decision or a split decision because fighters are actually good at their punching skills. Footwork and cardio might become a problem for the older fighter too. It's actually difficult to predict who will win despite the odds being far.

And because Valdez is known to be a technical fighter and that is the reason why they put him as the clear favorite. Navarette is known to be a volume puncher as you have said, however, he has a unorthodox style and maybe he will be caught by Valdez later for a knockout out win.

But the fight go of over 10 rounds, pure clash of styles and there are talks that this could be a FOTY candidate if it is really that good as two Mexican warriors going at it from round 1 to finished.
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August 10, 2023, 09:12:04 AM
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^That's still far but I will be checking it out.

A title fight will happen this Saturday in Glendale, Arizona. 7 PM Eastern time.
Emanuel Navarrete versus Oscar Valdez - Title: WBO Junior Lightweight

Navarrete - 37-1-31(KO's) | 28 years old | 72" reach | Odds: 2.31
Valdez - 31-1-23 (KO's) | 32 years old | 66" reach | Odds: 1.60

I've read some analysis on why Valdez is the favorite. They say Valdez's Olympic amateur background will help a lot in this fight. But Navarrete is a volume puncher so if most of his punches will land, it will become problematic for Valdez trying to win the scorecard back.
I say it will also end in a unanimous decision or a split decision because fighters are actually good at their punching skills. Footwork and cardio might become a problem for the older fighter too. It's actually difficult to predict who will win despite the odds being far.

Both have good cardio if I'm not mistaken, but it seems that Navarette can really last long specially on what he shows during his last fight. He was down but not out, and then he comes back and score a victory thru knockout.

So he has a big heart and it could be a problem for Valdez as he has a long thread. But Valdez has one of the best left hook at lower weights and if it caught Navarette coming in because his defense was his face, maybe he will felt the power of Oscar and then go down.

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I reckon that it is very much more interesting to see rather than watching these boxing fights that we already know who will win and who will lose. They can hype it and market it to the crowd as like the outcome is not yet sure but no MMA fighter had a successful debut in his boxing career after retiring as a professional MMA fighter, that's just fact.

But in their possible rematch, it will be a new sight to see because I think it will be the first time as well. We might know we may win but it's just too interesting how the fight will go.

I totally agree it is a refreshing thing to see how Jake Paul would do with the MMA fight but I will not be surprise if he would further the fight even longer, or worse cancel the fight because of an injury, if that would happen that means that Jake Paul is not ready yet to take on the big guns on the MMA rules kind of fight and MMA gloves, for me I am really interested in seeing Jake Paul in a different combat sports aside boxing because for sure you can see the bad assery of a fighter if he can fight in all combat sports that is for sure, and who knows maybe Jake Paul would love MMA after this fight,


A boxing rematch would be possible if Jake offers more than Nate got from this fight which could happen if Jake negotiates. Bringing the fight to UFC will make Jake negotiate for the fight to happen in boxing again than in UFC. I doubt Jake will put himself in a losing situation again after Tommy humiliates him.

Meanwhile, KSI & Logan Paul will have double main event against Tom Fury and Dillion Danis this OCT 14
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Or they can surely go in a different MMA organization where there is more income to the fighter than with the management we all know how the UFC has done things we surely don't know if that big amount will be really given in full to the fighters, or we all know it is an event under some events, but let's see if what will happen,

Whoa! another Paul fight this time his brother Logan Paul, and against I really don't know who is his opponent but will look it up later, but for sure pretty much many will be curious with this kind of fights because we will never know if the opponent can go with an upset,

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^^ Lol, I thought it is Jake Paul, but his younger who is going to fight. And same as what his brothers is doing, fighting another MMA artist in a stand up fight in boxing, so that they will have the advantage and most likely will win.

It's interesting that DAZN is carrying this fight, they will have to ride on the Paul brothers hype train in this exhibitions because this is business and there are a lot of money that is going to be made here.

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^^ Lol, I thought it is Jake Paul, but his younger who is going to fight. And same as what his brothers is doing, fighting another MMA artist in a stand up fight in boxing, so that they will have the advantage and most likely will win.

It's interesting that DAZN is carrying this fight, they will have to ride on the Paul brothers hype train in this exhibitions because this is business and there are a lot of money that is going to be made here.

Jake Paul cannot fight all the time, even though he holds a better record than his brother. However, both have already gained popularity, making it a lucrative opportunity for promoters, given that fans would unquestionably come to watch their fights. Even if they only fight once a year, they could still earn millions of dollars. This is in contrast to many other professional boxers who begin their careers from the ground up and only become popular after proving themselves by winning championships. The Paul brothers don't require that trajectory; their exhibition fights alone generate a substantial income for them.



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I reckon that it is very much more interesting to see rather than watching these boxing fights that we already know who will win and who will lose. They can hype it and market it to the crowd as like the outcome is not yet sure but no MMA fighter had a successful debut in his boxing career after retiring as a professional MMA fighter, that's just fact.

But in their possible rematch, it will be a new sight to see because I think it will be the first time as well. We might know we may win but it's just too interesting how the fight will go.

I totally agree it is a refreshing thing to see how Jake Paul would do with the MMA fight but I will not be surprise if he would further the fight even longer, or worse cancel the fight because of an injury, if that would happen that means that Jake Paul is not ready yet to take on the big guns on the MMA rules kind of fight and MMA gloves, for me I am really interested in seeing Jake Paul in a different combat sports aside boxing because for sure you can see the bad assery of a fighter if he can fight in all combat sports that is for sure, and who knows maybe Jake Paul would love MMA after this fight,
I guess that's one way to see it. Well, people will surely get interested into him if he turns out to be more deadly in the MMA fight compared to the boxing fight specially after the fact that people are already expecting the opposite thing, just like how people thought that Nate doesn't have any chances to win in a boxing fight. Which is true as that did happen as well. Anyway, it will be a good thing if they will have that fight in the cage just how they talked about it but talking about chances, that will be too much to ask.

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^^ Lol, I thought it is Jake Paul, but his younger who is going to fight. And same as what his brothers is doing, fighting another MMA artist in a stand up fight in boxing, so that they will have the advantage and most likely will win.

It's interesting that DAZN is carrying this fight, they will have to ride on the Paul brothers hype train in this exhibitions because this is business and there are a lot of money that is going to be made here.

Jake Paul cannot fight all the time, even though he holds a better record than his brother. However, both have already gained popularity, making it a lucrative opportunity for promoters, given that fans would unquestionably come to watch their fights. Even if they only fight once a year, they could still earn millions of dollars. This is in contrast to many other professional boxers who begin their careers from the ground up and only become popular after proving themselves by winning championships. The Paul brothers don't require that trajectory; their exhibition fights alone generate a substantial income for them.

As long as the fans are willing to buy their tickets because of what hype this brothers can bring, they will continue to do so and this is a potential another millions of dollars in the table for them and there opponents as well. That's why they can almost find fighters, whether ex-MMA or still beginning of their careers in UFC or not so famous fighters.

Because it's one of a lifetime opportunity to make a name for them and at the same time, been paid more than what they got if they are to compete in UFC. Like what Francis did to his career, Dana White is not offering him good money, then he switch and fight Tyson Fury for millions just in 1 fight alone.

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^^ Lol, I thought it is Jake Paul, but his younger who is going to fight. And same as what his brothers is doing, fighting another MMA artist in a stand up fight in boxing, so that they will have the advantage and most likely will win.

It's interesting that DAZN is carrying this fight, they will have to ride on the Paul brothers hype train in this exhibitions because this is business and there are a lot of money that is going to be made here.

Jake Paul cannot fight all the time, even though he holds a better record than his brother. However, both have already gained popularity, making it a lucrative opportunity for promoters, given that fans would unquestionably come to watch their fights. Even if they only fight once a year, they could still earn millions of dollars. This is in contrast to many other professional boxers who begin their careers from the ground up and only become popular after proving themselves by winning championships. The Paul brothers don't require that trajectory; their exhibition fights alone generate a substantial income for them.

As long as the fans are willing to buy their tickets because of what hype this brothers can bring, they will continue to do so and this is a potential another millions of dollars in the table for them and there opponents as well. That's why they can almost find fighters, whether ex-MMA or still beginning of their careers in UFC or not so famous fighters.

Because it's one of a lifetime opportunity to make a name for them and at the same time, been paid more than what they got if they are to compete in UFC. Like what Francis did to his career, Dana White is not offering him good money, then he switch and fight Tyson Fury for millions just in 1 fight alone.

That is a guaranteed $8 Million (PPV not included) and that is a very good money that Francis Ngannou can have after making a name in the UFC and now getting his career in the boxing industry, the thing is that this is not an exhibition fight that is why it is garnering many attention from the people around the world.

Just like Nate Diaz, it has been said that he got a whooping $20 Million from a fight against Jake Paul. And if this hype continues on their rematch, I would not be surprised if Jake Paul would take the deal even if it means that he will get defeated in an MMA fight.

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