Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions

[TravelMug]

What can you say though about Robert Helenius being tested positive for a ban substance when he fought Joshua. If we can recall, it was supposedly Dillian Whyte as the original opponent of AJ but he was tested as well.

As just confirmed by Matchroom Boxing, Robert Helenius was found to have an adverse finding during a drug test leading into his knockout loss to Anthony Joshua. Matchroom’s statement indicates that Helenius was tested by VADA the day before his fight with Anthony Joshua on August 12, but that they were just made aware of the finding today.

https://www.badlefthook.com/2023/8/25/23846579/robert-helenius-tests-positive-banned-substance-leading-into-anthony-joshua-fight-boxing-news-2023

But as usual Helenius says that he hasn't done any drugs and that he is innocent of what has been accused of him and he also said that he is not a cheater as he has been tested throughout his career.

But it defeated the purpose of drug test though? I mean they allow him to fight AJ already and the purpose is to supposedly caught the offending party before he can fight. So what if he wins by chance against AJ and then found guilty afterwards.

I have nothing against this blood testing, but it should be early that they will to caught the boxer itself before stepping up in the ring, just saying. And it's good that AJ won, because if not, then it's going to be complicated here.

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[Baofeng]

^ To be honest I'm not familiar with both fighters. But if the champion was able to get back the title from another Filipino, it means that he is very tough boxer.
So if by chance this "Hellboy" wanted to wrestle back the title, then for sure he will need everything he got and maybe we can say that he needs to be very lucky winning in the homecourt of the champion here.
Nevertheless, we will give him a puncher's chance and see if he can promise and bring the belt back to his Philippines.

Unfortunately, Diagan didn't live up to the hype of his nickname as Collazo put a damage on him, and with that, he retains the belt in PR.

So it's no mas for Diagan he didn't go out in after the 6th and it was over. It was a good showing by Collazo though specially in the 4th and 5th round wherein he corner Hellboy and throw everything and even snap the head of Diagan. Surprised that Diagan was able to withstand it, but it seems that he knows what's coming to him and so his corner stop it.

[LUCKMCFLY]

^I don't understand why SugaSean wants to jump into boxing and challenge Tank Davis. Yes, he has a strong punching ability but that doesn't mean it's as strong as the boxers who always train their fists. And, he is still building his career in MMA. He may have won the title against Sterling but he needs to prove that he can keep it first. There are still strong fighters out there in UFC so the competition will not stop yet. Defending the belt will be a big trial for him. Hungry fighters will come and he should stay ready because there might be someone else already eyeing to challenge him.

Possible that he loves watching McGregor or idolizing him or he might want to have that luxurious money that McGregor receives after fighting Mayweather, as we all know that the revenue with Tank vs Ryan was a big success.

If he can hype that challenge and promoters will arrange the negotiation, we never know if how much money both
camps will earn if the fight takes place.

Just my opinion and whatever the reason for Sean to call and challenge Tank more on his own reason and maybe
we might hear some updates if there's a possibility that it will happen.

Well, sometimes a fighter can Become very good and if he is in MMA it is Something that many can even support him , I do not doubt it , I think that some things can happen just as they believe , I am a little more focused on the reality of things , for me a normal fighter should not switch to boxing so Quickly, because they can Receive so much punishment and they can give him a good Knockout and he will not notice, the fights in the UFC can be seen as very Good , violets and eus e They hit hard, but I don't know if you have realized that the fighters who win the most in the UFC are the ones who dominate the blows with the anuses the most, that is , as a boxer, they use their hands more than kicks , and that is Something that is note Leagues Away , so a fighter of a fighting Category like this I consider that he should Train as a boxer at least for About 6 months in a row and every day , and that still will not decrease at a Level Compared to Facing a Tank Davis.

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'HE DOESN'T WANT TO FIGHT ME!' Shakur Stevenson on Gervonta Davis & Devin Haney

The DAZN Boxing Show hosts, Ak and Barak sat down with Shakur Stevenson to hear his thoughts on Terrence Crawford, Canelo Alvarez vs Charlo, as well as whether he’s looking to fight Gervonta ‘Tank’ Davis and/or Devin Haney.

Source: https://www.saddoboxing.com/64428-he-doesnt-want-to-fight-me-shakur-stevenson-on-gervonta-davis-devin-haney.html

What they say is interesting, honestly it is a very big update on these guys, now, with respect to Davis, it is something we can all skeptic that things can be favorable for him, because he is a born boxer , on the other hand, four people who know go regardless of any fighting style , no matter how good you are at boxing, things change a lot , boxers tend to be tougher , tougher and endure stronger blows than them , it's a special characteristic, besides that the trainings are very hard, I say that because I practiced this sport, it is a beautiful sport, but in reality it is not for everyone, apart from the fact that you will always have the option of receiving blows to the head , face , and this can be quite hard for some , if there is not good Genetics I could He is knocked out very Easily, while a boxer is used to these blows , and his Training does not make him Harder.

[Kemarit]

^ I don't think that they are afraid of Shakur, it's just boxing politics, Shakur is with Top Rank and Haney is with PBC. So it's hard to make that fights assuming this so boxing promotions doesn't want to work which each other.
On the other hand, I read that Shakur will have a incoming fight already, name Frank Martin.

On the losses of the Filipino against the the Puerto Rican, from what I read, it's more of that Diagan was broken down mentally by Collazo and that's why he quit and doesn't want to fight anymore.

[Fredomago]

What can you say though about Robert Helenius being tested positive for a ban substance when he fought Joshua. If we can recall, it was supposedly Dillian Whyte as the original opponent of AJ but he was tested as well.

As just confirmed by Matchroom Boxing, Robert Helenius was found to have an adverse finding during a drug test leading into his knockout loss to Anthony Joshua. Matchroom’s statement indicates that Helenius was tested by VADA the day before his fight with Anthony Joshua on August 12, but that they were just made aware of the finding today.

https://www.badlefthook.com/2023/8/25/23846579/robert-helenius-tests-positive-banned-substance-leading-into-anthony-joshua-fight-boxing-news-2023

But as usual Helenius says that he hasn't done any drugs and that he is innocent of what has been accused of him and he also said that he is not a cheater as he has been tested throughout his career.

But it defeated the purpose of drug test though? I mean they allow him to fight AJ already and the purpose is to supposedly caught the offending party before he can fight. So what if he wins by chance against AJ and then found guilty afterwards.

I have nothing against this blood testing, but it should be early that they will to caught the boxer itself before stepping up in the ring, just saying. And it's good that AJ won, because if not, then it's going to be complicated here.

I see your point and it's valid, what if he wins against Joshua then findings like this happened, so it might be a waste for him since that issue will void the win. Good thing that Joshua still take this fight away from him and after that the issue was been proven, it's his journey now to contest that findings and clean his name so he can find ways to come back and try his chance again to step inside the ring and make some good hypes to his career.

[serjent05]

What can you say though about Robert Helenius being tested positive for a ban substance when he fought Joshua. If we can recall, it was supposedly Dillian Whyte as the original opponent of AJ but he was tested as well.

As just confirmed by Matchroom Boxing, Robert Helenius was found to have an adverse finding during a drug test leading into his knockout loss to Anthony Joshua. Matchroom’s statement indicates that Helenius was tested by VADA the day before his fight with Anthony Joshua on August 12, but that they were just made aware of the finding today.

https://www.badlefthook.com/2023/8/25/23846579/robert-helenius-tests-positive-banned-substance-leading-into-anthony-joshua-fight-boxing-news-2023

But as usual Helenius says that he hasn't done any drugs and that he is innocent of what has been accused of him and he also said that he is not a cheater as he has been tested throughout his career.

But it defeated the purpose of drug test though? I mean they allow him to fight AJ already and the purpose is to supposedly caught the offending party before he can fight. So what if he wins by chance against AJ and then found guilty afterwards.

This kind of strategy is possibly imposed by AJ's camp or the authority that favors AJ.  Since, if AJ loses the fight, they have leeway to refute the winnings since Helenius is found positive after the test.  I also can't deny thinking that this kind of action is possibly some conspiracy between AJ's camp and the authority to refute the winnings of Helenius if happens.  They are lucky that there is no need to do that because AJ won the fight.

I have nothing against this blood testing, but it should be early that they will to caught the boxer itself before stepping up in the ring, just saying. And it's good that AJ won, because if not, then it's going to be complicated here.

Yeah, blood testing should be done early and the result of the test before the fight.  I think they wanted to create some controversy on the incident to create another rematch making it more sensationalized due to the banned substance being positive on Helenius test but alas they do not have to do it because AJ won the fight.

[FinneysTrueVision]

^ I don't think that they are afraid of Shakur, it's just boxing politics, Shakur is with Top Rank and Haney is with PBC. So it's hard to make that fights assuming this so boxing promotions doesn't want to work which each other.
On the other hand, I read that Shakur will have a incoming fight already, name Frank Martin.

On the losses of the Filipino against the the Puerto Rican, from what I read, it's more of that Diagan was broken down mentally by Collazo and that's why he quit and doesn't want to fight anymore.

Haney is not with PBC, he is a free agent. He even tried to negotiate a fight with Shakur but made a ridiculous lowball offer that shows he is not serious in wanting to fight him. Tank is the one with PBC but his most recent fight was against a Golden Boy/DAZN fighter, Ryan Garcia. If Tank really wants to fight Shakur, that fight would get made. Too bad Tank only seems interested in in-house mismatches or Instagram influencers with strict rehydration clauses.

[bisdak40]

Haney is not with PBC, he is a free agent. He even tried to negotiate a fight with Shakur but made a ridiculous lowball offer that shows he is not serious in wanting to fight him. Tank is the one with PBC but his most recent fight was against a Golden Boy/DAZN fighter, Ryan Garcia. If Tank really wants to fight Shakur, that fight would get made. Too bad Tank only seems interested in in-house mismatches or Instagram influencers with strict rehydration clauses.

Bob Arum has already said that Shakur will fight Lomachenco, just don't know when but I think that is doable since both fighters are under his wings. I just hope though the fight between Loma and Shakur is for the championship belt since Haney has already moved up to 140lbs.

With regards to Tanks Davis, it would be interesting to see him go down a bit, maybe to 130lbs to meet Inoue, that would be a massive fight if Bob Arum would agree.

[Kemarit]

^ I don't think that they are afraid of Shakur, it's just boxing politics, Shakur is with Top Rank and Haney is with PBC. So it's hard to make that fights assuming this so boxing promotions doesn't want to work which each other.
On the other hand, I read that Shakur will have a incoming fight already, name Frank Martin.

On the losses of the Filipino against the the Puerto Rican, from what I read, it's more of that Diagan was broken down mentally by Collazo and that's why he quit and doesn't want to fight anymore.

Haney is not with PBC, he is a free agent. He even tried to negotiate a fight with Shakur but made a ridiculous lowball offer that shows he is not serious in wanting to fight him. Tank is the one with PBC but his most recent fight was against a Golden Boy/DAZN fighter, Ryan Garcia. If Tank really wants to fight Shakur, that fight would get made. Too bad Tank only seems interested in in-house mismatches or Instagram influencers with strict rehydration clauses.

My bad, I thought that I read some articles in the last couple of days saying that Haney has sign with PBC, unfortunately, I can't find that article so with that, yeah he might be free agent as of now and could be fighting on a fight to fight basis for his career.
On the contrary though, if he is not sign with anyone then I guess he can go and fight Regis. But the thing is that he had low ball Prograis (according to Regis), so we don't know what will be the next move for his career as he doesn't have any promotional tie-in. If he goes back to Top Rank, then he could have Shakur Stevenson or even a rematch with Loma, but I don't think he is willing to give Loma that rematch.

@bisdak40 - I don't think that Tank Davis can go down to 130 lbs just to get Inoue. Remember he put a rehydration clause to Ryan Garcia. So he knows what rehydration could do to a fighter so no way he will do that -5 lbs to his frame.

[Sanitough]

@bisdak40 - I don't think that Tank Davis can go down to 130 lbs just to get Inoue. Remember he put a rehydration clause to Ryan Garcia. So he knows what rehydration could do to a fighter so no way he will do that -5 lbs to his frame.

That's quite a risk for him. He is already enjoying his popularity, even more so than Inoue, despite Inoue having a higher ranking among pound-for-pound fighters. It's possible he might choose to wait until Inoue continues moving up in weight, especially considering his undefeated record is on the line.

I believe he wouldn't be inclined to fight in a weight class or a catch weight that would hinder his usual fighting style. For fighters like Tank, the combination of power and speed is a key strength, and the same principle holds true for Inoue, of course.

[Maslate]

Haney is not with PBC, he is a free agent. He even tried to negotiate a fight with Shakur but made a ridiculous lowball offer that shows he is not serious in wanting to fight him. Tank is the one with PBC but his most recent fight was against a Golden Boy/DAZN fighter, Ryan Garcia. If Tank really wants to fight Shakur, that fight would get made. Too bad Tank only seems interested in in-house mismatches or Instagram influencers with strict rehydration clauses.

Bob Arum has already said that Shakur will fight Lomachenco, just don't know when but I think that is doable since both fighters are under his wings. I just hope though the fight between Loma and Shakur is for the championship belt since Haney has already moved up to 140lbs.

With regards to Tanks Davis, it would be interesting to see him go down a bit, maybe to 130lbs to meet Inoue, that would be a massive fight if Bob Arum would agree.

It will be a championship fight if Devin Haney will leave his belts at 135 so that the remaining hungry boxers can claim it and unify it again some time soon.
But since we're not hearing any of those things, that might be a sign already that Haney doesn't want to leave his belts yet and will fight at 140 while carrying it while also testing the waters if the weight class is really for him or not.

[CarnagexD]

@bisdak40 - I don't think that Tank Davis can go down to 130 lbs just to get Inoue. Remember he put a rehydration clause to Ryan Garcia. So he knows what rehydration could do to a fighter so no way he will do that -5 lbs to his frame.

That's quite a risk for him. He is already enjoying his popularity, even more so than Inoue, despite Inoue having a higher ranking among pound-for-pound fighters. It's possible he might choose to wait until Inoue continues moving up in weight, especially considering his undefeated record is on the line.

I believe he wouldn't be inclined to fight in a weight class or a catch weight that would hinder his usual fighting style. For fighters like Tank, the combination of power and speed is a key strength, and the same principle holds true for Inoue, of course.

U're absolutely right. The decision for a fighter like Tank Davis to move up in weight or engage in a high-stakes fight involves careful consiideration of various factors. Maintaining an undefeated record is often a point of pride and a marketing asset for fighters, and they may be cautious about risking it in a matchup that could potentially disrupt their current trajectory.

Weight class changes can impact a fighter's style and performances, so choosing the right weight class or catch weight is crucial. It's also important to consider the strategic advantages and disadvantages of facing different opponents. Both Tank Davis and Inoue possess distinct fighting strengths, and any potential match between them would undoubtedly generate significant attention due to their popularity and skills.

Ultimately, these decisions often came down to a combination of factors including financial incentives, legacy-building, risk assessment, and personal ambition. It's a dynamic landscape in the world of boxing, and fans eagerly await the choices fighters make as they progress in their careers.

[Kasabus]

@bisdak40 - I don't think that Tank Davis can go down to 130 lbs just to get Inoue. Remember he put a rehydration clause to Ryan Garcia. So he knows what rehydration could do to a fighter so no way he will do that -5 lbs to his frame.

That's quite a risk for him. He is already enjoying his popularity, even more so than Inoue, despite Inoue having a higher ranking among pound-for-pound fighters. It's possible he might choose to wait until Inoue continues moving up in weight, especially considering his undefeated record is on the line.

I believe he wouldn't be inclined to fight in a weight class or a catch weight that would hinder his usual fighting style. For fighters like Tank, the combination of power and speed is a key strength, and the same principle holds true for Inoue, of course.

U're absolutely right. The decision for a fighter like Tank Davis to move up in weight or engage in a high-stakes fight involves careful consiideration of various factors. Maintaining an undefeated record is often a point of pride and a marketing asset for fighters, and they may be cautious about risking it in a matchup that could potentially disrupt their current trajectory.

Weight class changes can impact a fighter's style and performances, so choosing the right weight class or catch weight is crucial. It's also important to consider the strategic advantages and disadvantages of facing different opponents. Both Tank Davis and Inoue possess distinct fighting strengths, and any potential match between them would undoubtedly generate significant attention due to their popularity and skills.

Ultimately, these decisions often came down to a combination of factors including financial incentives, legacy-building, risk assessment, and personal ambition. It's a dynamic landscape in the world of boxing, and fans eagerly await the choices fighters make as they progress in their careers.

In due time, I believe it will happen but for the meantime, it's understandable that both named boxers are going on a separate way because they are on a different weight class. Also, we've known Tank Davis, he is not the kind of boxer who is welcome to accept the fact that he might not be on the upper hand, including his camp and Al Haymon.

They will do everything in their power to secure a fight that will give them advantages and not the opposite, that is why it's kind of impossible that a fight between Inoue and Tank will happen at 130 lbs or even a catchweight lower than 135. You see, even at 135, they are still doing some ridiculous clauses like his recent fight against Garcia.

[jakelyson]

Because Tapology is an MMA page and not even a boxing page so you'd be lucky to find fights that aren't from big boxing networks; i.e., DAZN, ESPN, and Showtime. There are many non-title fights for the rest of the month that are mostly available thru live streaming. Next weekend there is a title fight between the WBA minimumweight champion Oscar Collazo against Filipino contender Garen Diagan and this will be shown thru DAZN from Puerto Rico the champion's hometown.

https://box.live/upcoming-fights-schedule/

Well, it still has some boxing events that are mostly not shown in the mainstream and likely will never be so there is not much attention on them but regarding the event I posted both Filipino fighters lost to the Japanese fighters, Jestine Tesoro was defeated by Yoshimitsu Kimura and Virgel Vitor was defeated by Toshihiro Suzuki, it was really expected as the fight was on the home turf and likely Filipino fighters if they did not adjust with the Climate, time, and still has jet lag then likely they will surely lose this fight,





Another one is the Collazo vs Diagan fight another Filipino lost the WBO World Strawweight title and Garen Diagan didn't get revenge for his fellow boxer Melvin Jerusalem when Oscar Collazo defeated Jerusalem, It was surely a breathtaking fight as Oscar Collazo is much heavier and got the range advantage and a slight advantage with the height and the Filipino Boxer is always back on the corner of the ring, for us it was a lost,

[Iranus]

U're absolutely right. The decision for a fighter like Tank Davis to move up in weight or engage in a high-stakes fight involves careful consiideration of various factors. Maintaining an undefeated record is often a point of pride and a marketing asset for fighters, and they may be cautious about risking it in a matchup that could potentially disrupt their current trajectory.

Weight class changes can impact a fighter's style and performances, so choosing the right weight class or catch weight is crucial. It's also important to consider the strategic advantages and disadvantages of facing different opponents. Both Tank Davis and Inoue possess distinct fighting strengths, and any potential match between them would undoubtedly generate significant attention due to their popularity and skills.

Ultimately, these decisions often came down to a combination of factors including financial incentives, legacy-building, risk assessment, and personal ambition. It's a dynamic landscape in the world of boxing, and fans eagerly await the choices fighters make as they progress in their careers.

In due time, I believe it will happen but for the meantime, it's understandable that both named boxers are going on a separate way because they are on a different weight class. Also, we've known Tank Davis, he is not the kind of boxer who is welcome to accept the fact that he might not be on the upper hand, including his camp and Al Haymon.

They will do everything in their power to secure a fight that will give them advantages and not the opposite, that is why it's kind of impossible that a fight between Inoue and Tank will happen at 130 lbs or even a catchweight lower than 135. You see, even at 135, they are still doing some ridiculous clauses like his recent fight against Garcia.

Sometimes I actually do not understand why fighters want to move around the weight classes. Instead, it will be better to stick to one and get really good at that certain class. I understand that it is not that simple and there are a lot of things going on. But for the most amount of success for any fighter, it is better to fight his whole life, in only one weight class. However my knowledge is not too good so probably that is not the best way for a fighter to approach his career.

I also support the fact that a fighter is going to go into a fight, knowing that he has the advantage. Either physically or mentally. It is definitely not a good idea for a fighter to go into a fight, knowing/thinking that he might lose. That is not a healthy weight for a fighter to think.

[Vaculin]

Haney is not with PBC, he is a free agent. He even tried to negotiate a fight with Shakur but made a ridiculous lowball offer that shows he is not serious in wanting to fight him. Tank is the one with PBC but his most recent fight was against a Golden Boy/DAZN fighter, Ryan Garcia. If Tank really wants to fight Shakur, that fight would get made. Too bad Tank only seems interested in in-house mismatches or Instagram influencers with strict rehydration clauses.

Bob Arum has already said that Shakur will fight Lomachenco, just don't know when but I think that is doable since both fighters are under his wings. I just hope though the fight between Loma and Shakur is for the championship belt since Haney has already moved up to 140lbs.

With regards to Tanks Davis, it would be interesting to see him go down a bit, maybe to 130lbs to meet Inoue, that would be a massive fight if Bob Arum would agree.

It will be a championship fight if Devin Haney will leave his belts at 135 so that the remaining hungry boxers can claim it and unify it again some time soon.
But since we're not hearing any of those things, that might be a sign already that Haney doesn't want to leave his belts yet and will fight at 140 while carrying it while also testing the waters if the weight class is really for him or not.

That's a smart move from Haney himself, I mean, his journey at 140 pounds against Regis is not yet guaranteed that he will have a nice start and if he will feel that 140 is too much for him then he can always go back at 135 where he is still the strongest and holds the undisputed title for having all four belts. But even so, I don't think that he can retain those belts long enough because there is Tank Davis and Shakur Stevenson who is looking forward to grab those belts out of him.

[YuginKadoya]

^ To be honest I'm not familiar with both fighters. But if the champion was able to get back the title from another Filipino, it means that he is very tough boxer.
So if by chance this "Hellboy" wanted to wrestle back the title, then for sure he will need everything he got and maybe we can say that he needs to be very lucky winning in the homecourt of the champion here.
Nevertheless, we will give him a puncher's chance and see if he can promise and bring the belt back to his Philippines.

Well Oscar Collazo is surely something to be able to win a title belt that fast from Puerto Rico and Melvin Jerusalem is not a walk in the park with that kind of punching power Collazo manage to broke down Jerusalem and pressured him to stood still in the 7th round to win a knockout, and now Garen Diagan is surely an easy target fort Oscar Collazo in my opinion sad to say but he didn't withstand those punching power of Collazo, and even pressured Diagan into the corner where he can easily land a knockout, Sad to say but that was really something the Puerto Rican boxer is something that shouldn't be underestimated by Filipino boxers,

Well, yes, he still do have an existing contract with the UFC and that means he couldn't have a fight in other sports industry even without Dana's words as the contract itself is already there. Furthermore, I don't think as well that Gervonta Davis is likely to accept any offer from SugaSean as he might not be inclined for a circus fight this time and SugaSean will not ring any bell in the boxing world because he's still a new fighter and of course will have a hard time if a fight will happen.

It will be too clear what would be the motive of the fight and so, there will be no hype in it because people will not be expecting something good in their fight.

For sure Gervonta Davis will not fight a clown like Sean O'Malley and I agree with you for sure if he likely accept this fight there could be a negative comment for Davis for getting this kind of a fight, because O'Malley would like just wants the amount of money he can get just like what Nate Diaz did with his match against Jake Paul, for sure if O'Malley wants Gervonata Davis that is a bigger money than Jake paul,

That's a smart move from Haney himself, I mean, his journey at 140 pounds against Regis is not yet guaranteed that he will have a nice start and if he will feel that 140 is too much for him then he can always go back at 135 where he is still the strongest and holds the undisputed title for having all four belts. But even so, I don't think that he can retain those belts long enough because there is Tank Davis and Shakur Stevenson who is looking forward to grab those belts out of him.

If Devin Haney would just be going to just feel the Division a bit but it could likely be a risk of getting a lost in his record for sure but surely Devin Haney is likely a calculating fighter so for sure he is aware of this risk and he is readying him self in getting this to his advantage,

[Fredomago]

Haney is not with PBC, he is a free agent. He even tried to negotiate a fight with Shakur but made a ridiculous lowball offer that shows he is not serious in wanting to fight him. Tank is the one with PBC but his most recent fight was against a Golden Boy/DAZN fighter, Ryan Garcia. If Tank really wants to fight Shakur, that fight would get made. Too bad Tank only seems interested in in-house mismatches or Instagram influencers with strict rehydration clauses.

Bob Arum has already said that Shakur will fight Lomachenco, just don't know when but I think that is doable since both fighters are under his wings. I just hope though the fight between Loma and Shakur is for the championship belt since Haney has already moved up to 140lbs.

With regards to Tanks Davis, it would be interesting to see him go down a bit, maybe to 130lbs to meet Inoue, that would be a massive fight if Bob Arum would agree.

It will be a championship fight if Devin Haney will leave his belts at 135 so that the remaining hungry boxers can claim it and unify it again some time soon.
But since we're not hearing any of those things, that might be a sign already that Haney doesn't want to leave his belts yet and will fight at 140 while carrying it while also testing the waters if the weight class is really for him or not.

That's a smart move from Haney himself, I mean, his journey at 140 pounds against Regis is not yet guaranteed that he will have a nice start and if he will feel that 140 is too much for him then he can always go back at 135 where he is still the strongest and holds the undisputed title for having all four belts. But even so, I don't think that he can retain those belts long enough because there is Tank Davis and Shakur Stevenson who is looking forward to grab those belts out of him.

Interesting as names who are really qualified to hold o challenge to get the belt away from Haney are fighters who are expected to be more aggressive in terms of snatching it from the current champ, a good way to earn more money for the side of promoters and the fighters since names are big in this sport and fans and gamblers would love to hear any possible update once the negotiations start to process.

One big news that will start the discussions about a possible fight between those fighters will trigger the spark and create good attention.

[mirakal]

Haney is not with PBC, he is a free agent. He even tried to negotiate a fight with Shakur but made a ridiculous lowball offer that shows he is not serious in wanting to fight him. Tank is the one with PBC but his most recent fight was against a Golden Boy/DAZN fighter, Ryan Garcia. If Tank really wants to fight Shakur, that fight would get made. Too bad Tank only seems interested in in-house mismatches or Instagram influencers with strict rehydration clauses.

Bob Arum has already said that Shakur will fight Lomachenco, just don't know when but I think that is doable since both fighters are under his wings. I just hope though the fight between Loma and Shakur is for the championship belt since Haney has already moved up to 140lbs.

With regards to Tanks Davis, it would be interesting to see him go down a bit, maybe to 130lbs to meet Inoue, that would be a massive fight if Bob Arum would agree.

It will be a championship fight if Devin Haney will leave his belts at 135 so that the remaining hungry boxers can claim it and unify it again some time soon.
But since we're not hearing any of those things, that might be a sign already that Haney doesn't want to leave his belts yet and will fight at 140 while carrying it while also testing the waters if the weight class is really for him or not.

That's a smart move from Haney himself, I mean, his journey at 140 pounds against Regis is not yet guaranteed that he will have a nice start and if he will feel that 140 is too much for him then he can always go back at 135 where he is still the strongest and holds the undisputed title for having all four belts. But even so, I don't think that he can retain those belts long enough because there is Tank Davis and Shakur Stevenson who is looking forward to grab those belts out of him.

Interesting as names who are really qualified to hold o challenge to get the belt away from Haney are fighters who are expected to be more aggressive in terms of snatching it from the current champ, a good way to earn more money for the side of promoters and the fighters since names are big in this sport and fans and gamblers would love to hear any possible update once the negotiations start to process.

One big news that will start the discussions about a possible fight between those fighters will trigger the spark and create good attention.

If Haney will go back at 135, he will for sure face Shakur Stevenson because the latter will be named again as the current champion's mandatory challenger. There's nothing he can do to avoid that even if there is a politics in-between that makes the discussion quite impossible but since a big money will be involved, both camps will likely have a deal regardless of who will have the purse advantage.

[jakelyson]

For sure Gervonta Davis will not fight a clown like Sean O'Malley and I agree with you for sure if he likely accept this fight there could be a negative comment for Davis for getting this kind of a fight, because O'Malley would like just wants the amount of money he can get just like what Nate Diaz did with his match against Jake Paul, for sure if O'Malley wants Gervonata Davis that is a bigger money than Jake paul,

All of those MMA fighters who want to increase their salary when they fight in a boxing match for me let them fight in a boxing match but surely because of those contracts that are suppressing them from fighting in a boxing match is what they are stopping them, but surely Those restrictions may have some point and it is for their career, that if they lost in a different fighting field than with MMA fans might not want to watch them in an MMA fight Anymore, but surely this is just what I think,

Interesting as names who are really qualified to hold o challenge to get the belt away from Haney are fighters who are expected to be more aggressive in terms of snatching it from the current champ, a good way to earn more money for the side of promoters and the fighters since names are big in this sport and fans and gamblers would love to hear any possible update once the negotiations start to process.

One big news that will start the discussions about a possible fight between those fighters will trigger the spark and create good attention.

After seeing this I now want to see a Devin Haney vs Gervonta Davis fight, but because they are in a different division I really don't think these two will fight anytime soon but they could likely when they change their division if Gervonta Davis decides to get back at Lightweight, for sure,


Zhilei Zhang will have a rematch against Joe Joyce as Zhang is a picked fight for Joe Joyce and for sure it went in a different direction as Zhilei Zhang is a better boxer than they thought so, for sure it was a huge upset, and the fight will be on September 23, for sure because Zhilei Zhang has shown a different side of him the odds might be a much closer one than with Joe Joyce having to be the favorite to win,