Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]

[Branko]

Lets see what Germans say, then

[link to propaganda removed]

Because the Germans speak with one voice, and you just happen to have found the guy who speaks for them? And it happens that the origin of the comment is a Norwegian guy, involved in propaganda activities from Ruzzia.

I any case, again, irrelevant, the deal was a bogus, it imposed conditions on western democracies and it would only last until Putin felt like taking more land.

Economically, Putin should fail. If the US citizens are convinced that they should "do nothing" then is likely Ruzzia will have some type of success. Europe is one of the few allies of the US in the world, if US fails to support the price to pay would be felt for generations.

Ok, here's another Norwegian for you:

https://www.politico.eu/article/nato-boss-jens-stoltenberg-warns-of-bad-news-from-ukraine/

[covfefe_]

Lets see what Germans say, then

[link to propaganda removed]

Because the Germans speak with one voice, and you just happen to have found the guy who speaks for them? And it happens that the origin of the comment is a Norwegian guy, involved in propaganda activities from Ruzzia.

I any case, again, irrelevant, the deal was a bogus, it imposed conditions on western democracies and it would only last until Putin felt like taking more land.

Economically, Putin should fail. If the US citizens are convinced that they should "do nothing" then is likely Ruzzia will have some type of success. Europe is one of the few allies of the US in the world, if US fails to support the price to pay would be felt for generations.

Ok, here's another Norwegian for you:

https://www.politico.eu/article/nato-boss-jens-stoltenberg-warns-of-bad-news-from-ukraine/

The investors now realized their ROI are not good enough. They'll now support Ukrainians in thoughts and Prayers.

[DaRude]

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not sure how you could put a positive spin on that, go ahead now you can sign the new agreement at even worse terms but your losses weren't in vain because you protected NATO   (even though NATO was fine in 2013)

Not sure how to tell you this, but you're arguing with yourself here. Sorry about your mental illness, perhaps taking a break from the internet would be beneficial for you.

Not sure how to tell you this, but


But let me help you out, and educate you on this too:

Cambridge Dictionary
argue-verb
to speak angrily to someone, telling that person that you disagree with them

At least you tried to draw attention away and change the topic right?

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Michael von der Schulenburg is a former UN Assistant Secretary-General, who worked for over 34 years for the United Nations

Hajo Funke is Professor Emeritus for political sciences of the Otto-Suhr-Institute/ Freie University Berlin

General (ret.) Harald Kujat was the highest ranging German officer of the Bundeswehr and at NATO
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Just one month after the start of the Russian military intervention in Ukraine, Ukrainian and Russian negotiators had come very close to an agreement for a ceasefire and to an outline for a comprehensive peace solution to the conflict.
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Contrary to Western interpretations, Ukraine and Russia agreed at the time that the planned NATO expansion was the reason for the war. They therefore focused their peace negotiations on Ukraine’s neutrality and its renunciation of NATO membership. In return, Ukraine would have retained its territorial integrity except for Crimea. [...]
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The Washington Post reported April 5 that in NATO, continuing the war is preferred to a cease-fire and negotiated settlement: “[yellow=red,2,300]For some in NATO, it’s better for Ukrainians to keep fighting and dying[/glow] than to achieve a peace that comes too soon or at too high a price for Kiev and the rest of Europe.” Zelensky, he said, should “keep fighting until Russia is completely defeated.”

BORIS JOHNSON’S MESSAGE TO UKRAINIANS ON APRIL 9, 2022: WE MUST CONTINUE THE WAR

On April 9, 2022, Boris Johnson arrived unannounced in Kiev and told the Ukrainian president that the West was not ready to end the war. According to Britain’s Guardian on April 28, PM Johnson had “instructed” Ukrainian President Zelensky “not to make any concessions to Putin”:
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Johnson brought two simple messages with him to Kiev. The first is that Putin is a war criminal; he should be pressured, not negotiated with. The second is that even if Ukraine is willing to sign some agreements with Putin on guarantees, but that the collective West is not.
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You need to learn to summarize. Putin demand was that Ukraine would not join NATO and Ruzzia would keep the illegally acquired territory - something difficult to see as a "win-win". And on top of that he also wants to impose conditions on NATO and the European countries. That's not a plan is a threat.

What is another obvious problem with this "plan"? There is nothing preventing Putin for annexing more land at will. The "West" cannot provide guarantees to a country that is effectively prevented from having the means to defend itself and from getting the protection of an alliance.

What type of deal is that then? What would prevent Putin from toppling the government of Ukraine at will or take new territories? Again, not a plan but a threat -"do as I say or else it will be worse"

The answer is "since Ukraine has to either fight or be under Moscow control, we fight and we s do it ASAP". Sorry if this was not the answer Putin was expecting, sorry if he thought the European Union would not help, US not get involved and the Ukrainians not willing to fight. A head of state that makes such as errors in judgement should not be in charge of a country. Well... except Ruzzia.

It does not resist even the most elementary analysis.

But I am summarizing, those articles have a lot more useful info that I had to cut out, plus it's really hard to summarize global events with the potential to change the world order down to a paragraph.

You keep appealing to some concept of global fairness and a win-win, but Cuba has been under embargo for over 50yrs with the whole world but two countries saying it's illegal and should stop. Afghanistan has been in a state of war, only after 20 years and huge losses to finally replace Taliban with...Taliban. US has bases in Syria that Syria never agreed to, support of dictators in Africa, South America and Asia etc etc etc. Ukraine was under Russian sphere of influence up to 2014 and everything was fine, then west decided to attempt another financial expansionism, and brought cookies to wrestle Ukraine into it's own sphere of influence. You are correct that under some disguise of a win-win for everyone, the root of any peace agreement must decide which sphere would Ukraine fall under. Now for every decision there's a cost/benefit analysis, all sides seem to confirm that there was some agreement reached in principle in the beginning of all of this in 2022, and then Boris came and said no, let's start a war. Considering all of the losses,  if a new peace agreement would be reached now which side's position do you think improved since then? The consensus seems to be that the trend is not positive for Ukraine at the negotiation table. Now if you could mobilize younger generation and risk 100s of thousands of soldiers lives, would you do it simply because what you felt was right/wrong/fair thing to do, disregarding the chances of actually achieving anything, or would you only do it if you felt that there's a strong chance of improving your position 6month from now? And now consider what would happen if those lives are wasted without achieving any progress or even worse, if 6month from now after loosing more people your position deteriorates even further like from the previous peace agreement? World is not a cartoon with good guys wearing white and bad guys wearing black, it's just as important for a good leader to know when to fight as when to fold and save lives.

[suchmoon]

At least you tried to draw attention away and change the topic right?

The topic is Russian invasion in Ukraine, not really your personal diary and wall-quoting yourself.

Do you have anything to say on-topic, or is it just Cuba, Taliban, Israel, Taiwan etc? Seems like every problem anywhere in the world exists only to justify your fuehrer's actions. Might be great in your current condition but sounds utterly absurd in the real world.

[DaRude]

At least you tried to draw attention away and change the topic right?

The topic is Russian invasion in Ukraine, not really your personal diary and wall-quoting yourself.

Do you have anything to say on-topic, or is it just Cuba, Taliban, Israel, Taiwan etc? Seems like every problem anywhere in the world exists only to justify your fuehrer's actions. Might be great in your current condition but sounds utterly absurd in the real world.

I understand that current world news don't fit your narrative, and that you'd prefer to discuss Ukraine in a vacuum citing only Ukrainian sources of how great everything is going and how amazing Zelenskiy is. But at it's root, this conflict is simply just about expanding spheres of influence, if you don't like US trying to tie Ukrainian, Israel and Taiwan funding together, take it to Biden while he's still in office. And try explaining why Russian sanctions failed without explaining how China couldn't let them succeed

[suchmoon]

this conflict is simply just about expanding spheres of influence

What happened to "protecting" Russian language in Ukraine, and "nazis"?

Funny how even when you admit being lied to, you're still trying to find ways to justify your stupidity.

[Branko]

What happened to "protecting" Russian language in Ukraine, and "nazis"?

Synonyms

USA tried to replace Russian sphere of influence by destroying Russian one, employing nazis
to do that for them. So Russians battle it by fighting Nazis and protecting Russians

[paxmao]

Lets see what Germans say, then

[link to propaganda removed]

Because the Germans speak with one voice, and you just happen to have found the guy who speaks for them? And it happens that the origin of the comment is a Norwegian guy, involved in propaganda activities from Ruzzia.

I any case, again, irrelevant, the deal was a bogus, it imposed conditions on western democracies and it would only last until Putin felt like taking more land.

Economically, Putin should fail. If the US citizens are convinced that they should "do nothing" then is likely Ruzzia will have some type of success. Europe is one of the few allies of the US in the world, if US fails to support the price to pay would be felt for generations.

Ok, here's another Norwegian for you:

https://www.politico.eu/article/nato-boss-jens-stoltenberg-warns-of-bad-news-from-ukraine/

The investors now realized their ROI are not good enough. They'll now support Ukrainians in thoughts and Prayers.

The ROI is excellent. Removing all those armoured vehicles, artillery and a few ships for a few billion and from the perspective of the US, with no loss of their own armies is the perfect deal. More knowing that the old soviet capacity of production and a good part of the technologically advanced platforms are not replaceable. It does put a good limit to the next aggression from Ruzzia.

Think of it, if the US wanted to end the war, they would commit the resources that are required, instead of just a few units of this and a few units of that.

Regarding the support, I know you want to believe in everyone who says that the support will stop, but at the moment is more likely that the US will put forward a single approval for a full year of war rather than the opposite.

[DaRude]

this conflict is simply just about expanding spheres of influence

What happened to "protecting" Russian language in Ukraine, and "nazis"?

Funny how even when you admit being lied to, you're still trying to find ways to justify your stupidity.

You're trolling right? I refuse to believe that you're seriously so dumb that you don't even realize that replacing a language is part of changing the spheres of influence?

The Russian book ban in Ukraine took effect on December 30, 2016, when President Petro Poroshenko signed a law that restricted import of books into Ukraine from Russia. This is an element of the ongoing military conflict between Ukraine and Russia.
Ukrainian parliament backs mandatory English language law for key positions in country

Next time before speaking educate yourself on Operation Cyclone where west sponsored mujahideens like Osama bin Laden and Operation Red Sox where west sponsored known nazi collaborators  such as Bandera. Why wouldn't the west sponsor neo-nazis to fight against Russia once again?

Yet, back in Washington, concerns started to grow. On the one hand, there was the reality of who these Ukrainian emigres were actually linking up with. The main body of Ukrainian insurgents, and in particular the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists, had already been linked directly to Nazi atrocities in the region. “They were Nazis, pure and simple,” one CIA operations chief said. “Worse than that, because a lot of them did the Nazis’ dirty work for them.”

[suchmoon]

USA tried to replace Russian sphere of influence by destroying Russian one, employing nazis
to do that for them. So Russians battle it by fighting Nazis and protecting Russians

replacing a language is part of changing the spheres of influence

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Why wouldn't the west sponsor neo-nazis to fight against Russia once again?

LOL you've been massively lied to about the purposes of the "special operation" but you're fine with that because it was never about "nazis" or anything... just some good old genocidal Russian imperialism that you adore so much. I'm just not quite sure why you're shy to parrot all of the Kremlin propagandist stuff, not just select bits. You're skipping the parts about nuking Berlin and London and all that shit, as if you don't really believe it perhaps, yet all the things about "nazis" must be absolutely true. No cognitive dissonance?

[DaRude]

USA tried to replace Russian sphere of influence by destroying Russian one, employing nazis
to do that for them. So Russians battle it by fighting Nazis and protecting Russians

replacing a language is part of changing the spheres of influence

[...]

Why wouldn't the west sponsor neo-nazis to fight against Russia once again?

LOL you've been massively lied to about the purposes of the "special operation" but you're fine with that because it was never about "nazis" or anything... just some good old genocidal Russian imperialism that you adore so much. I'm just not quite sure why you're shy to parrot all of the Kremlin propagandist stuff, not just select bits. You're skipping the parts about nuking Berlin and London and all that shit, as if you don't really believe it perhaps, yet all the things about "nazis" must be absolutely true. No cognitive dissonance?

You seem to be utterly confused and just rambling random words at this point. But i can see why https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/12/04/ukraine-counteroffensive-stalled-russia-war-defenses/ Long read probably beyond your attention span, but gives a sobering coverage of the failed counteroffensive and the finger pointing between west and Ukraine. But everyone already knew that, the bigger question is what happens next, now that Russians had even more time to make more mine fields and build defenses, and now Ukraine is lacking manpower. Looks like Ukraine solvency and existence will depend on the clown show in Washington next two week until congress will go on Christmas break, how many month will they extend Ukrainian aid for, range seems to be from 0 to 11 (November elections)

[be.open]

USA tried to replace Russian sphere of influence by destroying Russian one, employing nazis
to do that for them. So Russians battle it by fighting Nazis and protecting Russians

replacing a language is part of changing the spheres of influence

[...]

Why wouldn't the west sponsor neo-nazis to fight against Russia once again?

LOL you've been massively lied to about the purposes of the "special operation" but you're fine with that because it was never about "nazis" or anything... just some good old genocidal Russian imperialism that you adore so much. I'm just not quite sure why you're shy to parrot all of the Kremlin propagandist stuff, not just select bits. You're skipping the parts about nuking Berlin and London and all that shit, as if you don't really believe it perhaps, yet all the things about "nazis" must be absolutely true. No cognitive dissonance?

I don't understand the reason for your cognitive dissonance. There are subjective countries in the world and objects of their influence. Russia is a subjective country, Ukraine is an object of its influence. Ukraine does not have actual sovereignty, even if it has all the formal characteristics of a sovereign state. If this is news or revelation to you, then you don’t understand anything about politics.

[Branko]

USA tried to replace Russian sphere of influence by destroying Russian one, employing nazis
to do that for them. So Russians battle it by fighting Nazis and protecting Russians

replacing a language is part of changing the spheres of influence

[...]

Why wouldn't the west sponsor neo-nazis to fight against Russia once again?

LOL you've been massively lied to about the purposes of the "special operation" but you're fine with that because it was never about "nazis" or anything... just some good old genocidal Russian imperialism that you adore so much. I'm just not quite sure why you're shy to parrot all of the Kremlin propagandist stuff, not just select bits. You're skipping the parts about nuking Berlin and London and all that shit, as if you don't really believe it perhaps, yet all the things about "nazis" must be absolutely true. No cognitive dissonance?

Its not "Kremlin propagandist stuff", western media called them nazis too...before they stopped
for propaganda purposes

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cohen-ukraine-commentary-idUSKBN1GV2TY/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=5SBo0akeDMY

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-8-2015-000653_EN.html

[paxmao]

USA tried to replace Russian sphere of influence by destroying Russian one, employing nazis
to do that for them. So Russians battle it by fighting Nazis and protecting Russians

replacing a language is part of changing the spheres of influence

[...]

Why wouldn't the west sponsor neo-nazis to fight against Russia once again?

LOL you've been massively lied to about the purposes of the "special operation" but you're fine with that because it was never about "nazis" or anything... just some good old genocidal Russian imperialism that you adore so much. I'm just not quite sure why you're shy to parrot all of the Kremlin propagandist stuff, not just select bits. You're skipping the parts about nuking Berlin and London and all that shit, as if you don't really believe it perhaps, yet all the things about "nazis" must be absolutely true. No cognitive dissonance?

I don't understand the reason for your cognitive dissonance. There are subjective countries in the world and objects of their influence. Russia is a subjective country, Ukraine is an object of its influence. Ukraine does not have actual sovereignty, even if it has all the formal characteristics of a sovereign state. If this is news or revelation to you, then you don’t understand anything about politics.

Even under your imperialistic and simplistic view of the world, it seems that Ukraine has decided they have a say on  whose influence they are better of with. Even a "subject" seems to be able to choose the "whateverf**k" that fits best.

I am not sure what you call "actual sovereignty", Ukraine is a recognised independent nation and as any country has to live with a range of influences - no country is free to do at will, not even the US, they are all subject to conditions, influences and relations. By now, they have figured out that Moscow would treat them like they treat the rest of the "subjects" - impoverishing them, sending them to die and letting them to deal with the local despot. They want to try something different.

[Branko]

USA tried to replace Russian sphere of influence by destroying Russian one, employing nazis
to do that for them. So Russians battle it by fighting Nazis and protecting Russians

replacing a language is part of changing the spheres of influence

[...]

Why wouldn't the west sponsor neo-nazis to fight against Russia once again?

LOL you've been massively lied to about the purposes of the "special operation" but you're fine with that because it was never about "nazis" or anything... just some good old genocidal Russian imperialism that you adore so much. I'm just not quite sure why you're shy to parrot all of the Kremlin propagandist stuff, not just select bits. You're skipping the parts about nuking Berlin and London and all that shit, as if you don't really believe it perhaps, yet all the things about "nazis" must be absolutely true. No cognitive dissonance?

I don't understand the reason for your cognitive dissonance. There are subjective countries in the world and objects of their influence. Russia is a subjective country, Ukraine is an object of its influence. Ukraine does not have actual sovereignty, even if it has all the formal characteristics of a sovereign state. If this is news or revelation to you, then you don’t understand anything about politics.

Even under your imperialistic and simplistic view of the world, it seems that Ukraine has decided they have a say on  whose influence they are better of with. Even a "subject" seems to be able to choose the "whateverf**k" that fits best.

I am not sure what you call "actual sovereignty", Ukraine is a recognised independent nation and as any country has to live with a range of influences - no country is free to do at will, not even the US, they are all subject to conditions, influences and relations. By now, they have figured out that Moscow would treat them like they treat the rest of the "subjects" - impoverishing them, sending them to die and letting them to deal with the local despot. They want to try something different.

That is very simplistic view...since nation is sociological and not biological fact, its subject to influence and change
Fact is that currently USA can fight with $$$ and Russia has to use weapons...but thats subject to change too,
in next few decades, or, why not, centuries

[paxmao]

USA tried to replace Russian sphere of influence by destroying Russian one, employing nazis
to do that for them. So Russians battle it by fighting Nazis and protecting Russians

replacing a language is part of changing the spheres of influence

[...]

Why wouldn't the west sponsor neo-nazis to fight against Russia once again?

LOL you've been massively lied to about the purposes of the "special operation" but you're fine with that because it was never about "nazis" or anything... just some good old genocidal Russian imperialism that you adore so much. I'm just not quite sure why you're shy to parrot all of the Kremlin propagandist stuff, not just select bits. You're skipping the parts about nuking Berlin and London and all that shit, as if you don't really believe it perhaps, yet all the things about "nazis" must be absolutely true. No cognitive dissonance?

I don't understand the reason for your cognitive dissonance. There are subjective countries in the world and objects of their influence. Russia is a subjective country, Ukraine is an object of its influence. Ukraine does not have actual sovereignty, even if it has all the formal characteristics of a sovereign state. If this is news or revelation to you, then you don’t understand anything about politics.

Even under your imperialistic and simplistic view of the world, it seems that Ukraine has decided they have a say on  whose influence they are better of with. Even a "subject" seems to be able to choose the "whateverf**k" that fits best.

I am not sure what you call "actual sovereignty", Ukraine is a recognised independent nation and as any country has to live with a range of influences - no country is free to do at will, not even the US, they are all subject to conditions, influences and relations. By now, they have figured out that Moscow would treat them like they treat the rest of the "subjects" - impoverishing them, sending them to die and letting them to deal with the local despot. They want to try something different.

That is very simplistic view...since nation is sociological and not biological fact, its subject to influence and change
Fact is that currently USA can fight with $$$ and Russia has to use weapons...but thats subject to change too,
in next few decades, or, why not, centuries

I do not see how that changes anything I have said above, at most I would need to thank you for further proving my point. Ukraine, Ruzzia and Vanuatu for that matter are subject to influences, it just seem that the current influence tells most Ukrainians that it is worth fighting for a degree of independence.

On regards to US fighting with dollars... I assume you are speaking of the specific case of Ukraine, in many other places US has military presence. Are you somehow eager to see a US / Ruzzia unrestricted fight? I am not.

[BADecker]

It's too bad. But what can you say? Ukraine had a thousand chances to surrender, or not even provoke the Bear in the first place. Now they will have to accept Russian domination the hard way. Of course, the remaining Ukrainians could always drop Ukraine, and immigrate elsewhere (if they start now and are fast enough), like other Ukrainian citizens have been doing for the last couple of years.


Ukrainian frontlines are COLLAPSING, Russian forces ADVANCING on all fronts


https://www.naturalnews.com/2023-12-05-ukrainian-frontlines-collapsing-russia-advancing-all-fronts.html
Russia reported on Friday, Dec. 1, that its troops have made significant advances in every section of the Ukrainian frontlines.

The frontlines in Russia's special military operation in Ukraine have barely shifted in 2023, despite a massively publicized Ukrainian counteroffensive earlier this year. (Related: Russia inflicting HEAVY DAMAGE against Ukrainian Air Force using innovative long-range air-to-air missile.)

But fighting in the country has remained intense, and now Russian sources are reporting that the Russian Armed Forces have advanced into "more favorable positions."

"Our servicemen are acting competently and decisively, occupying a more favorable position and expanding their zones of control in all directions," said Russian Minister of Defense Sergei Shoigu on Friday during a briefing with top Russian military personnel.

Shoigu added that Russian forces in Ukraine are "effectively and firmly inflicting fire damage on the Ukrainian Armed Forces," and noted that Ukraine's combat capabilities were "significantly reduced" following its counteroffensive earlier this year.

Ukraine's counteroffensive launched in June after months of highly publicized preparations has stalled in Ukraine's southern and southeastern fronts without significant progress. This is despite massive shipments of Western weapons and training by Western advisors for Ukrainian troops. Hopes for a breakthrough are fading as winter draws near, making significant military movements problematic.

To support Russian gains, President Vladimir Putin issued a decree to boost troop numbers by as much as 15 percent, or around 170,000 new soldiers.

"The increase in the full-time strength of the army is due to growing threats to our country linked with the special military operation and the continuing expansion of NATO [the North Atlantic Treaty Organization]," said the armed forces in a statement warning of recent "aggressive activity" from the NATO bloc.

Russia still controls over 20% of Ukraine
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[DaRude]

USA tried to replace Russian sphere of influence by destroying Russian one, employing nazis
to do that for them. So Russians battle it by fighting Nazis and protecting Russians

replacing a language is part of changing the spheres of influence

[...]

Why wouldn't the west sponsor neo-nazis to fight against Russia once again?

LOL you've been massively lied to about the purposes of the "special operation" but you're fine with that because it was never about "nazis" or anything... just some good old genocidal Russian imperialism that you adore so much. I'm just not quite sure why you're shy to parrot all of the Kremlin propagandist stuff, not just select bits. You're skipping the parts about nuking Berlin and London and all that shit, as if you don't really believe it perhaps, yet all the things about "nazis" must be absolutely true. No cognitive dissonance?

I don't understand the reason for your cognitive dissonance. There are subjective countries in the world and objects of their influence. Russia is a subjective country, Ukraine is an object of its influence. Ukraine does not have actual sovereignty, even if it has all the formal characteristics of a sovereign state. If this is news or revelation to you, then you don’t understand anything about politics.

Even under your imperialistic and simplistic view of the world, it seems that Ukraine has decided they have a say on  whose influence they are better of with. Even a "subject" seems to be able to choose the "whateverf**k" that fits best.

I am not sure what you call "actual sovereignty", Ukraine is a recognised independent nation and as any country has to live with a range of influences - no country is free to do at will, not even the US, they are all subject to conditions, influences and relations. By now, they have figured out that Moscow would treat them like they treat the rest of the "subjects" - impoverishing them, sending them to die and letting them to deal with the local despot. They want to try something different.

Careful, can't have that. Russia and China are now on to this game. Look at the  Belt and Road Initiative. Russia just needs to buy out the weakest link, like bringing cookies to Hungary to buy their loyalty and veto and then what? Or China might want to make financial incentives for Mexico that they just cannot refuse, not even mentioning Cuba again. Buying loyalty with cookies would mean that all smaller countries would just go under the sphere of a highest bidder, and Cuban crisis taught us that US won't let that happen. Need to think of some good old American exceptionalism for financial expansionism, something like only government officials from countries that have letters "meric" in their name can bring cookies to other countries, that should do it.

Imagine Russian diplomat doing this in Hungary, or handing out subscriptions for free unlimited Russian gas for one year in Slovakia/Germany/Denmark..., imagine the queues of people lining up

[suchmoon]

You seem to be utterly confused and just rambling random words at this point. But i can see why https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/12/04/ukraine-counteroffensive-stalled-russia-war-defenses/ Long read probably beyond your attention span, but gives a sobering coverage of the failed counteroffensive and the finger pointing between west and Ukraine. But everyone already knew that, the bigger question is what happens next, now that Russians had even more time to make more mine fields and build defenses, and now Ukraine is lacking manpower. Looks like Ukraine solvency and existence will depend on the clown show in Washington next two week until congress will go on Christmas break, how many month will they extend Ukrainian aid for, range seems to be from 0 to 11 (November elections)

Nothing to do with what I said.

I don't understand the reason for your cognitive dissonance. There are subjective countries in the world and objects of their influence. Russia is a subjective country, Ukraine is an object of its influence. Ukraine does not have actual sovereignty, even if it has all the formal characteristics of a sovereign state. If this is news or revelation to you, then you don’t understand anything about politics.

It seems to be news to you that Kremlin is lying most of the time, including about how they're pissing away your country for no reason other than misplaced ambitions of a deranged gnome. Or you know it and just don't care.

Its not "Kremlin propagandist stuff", western media called them nazis too...before they stopped
for propaganda purposes

Except western media didn't invade Ukraine so that they could justify killing Ukrainians by calling them "nazis".

handing out subscriptions for free unlimited Russian gas

LOL behold geopolitical expert again trying to make it sound as if Kremlin never tried to bribe western politicians or even entire countries with petrodollars and cheap gas... still not able to connect the dots on why this brilliant strategy didn't work though.

[be.open]

I don't understand the reason for your cognitive dissonance. There are subjective countries in the world and objects of their influence. Russia is a subjective country, Ukraine is an object of its influence. Ukraine does not have actual sovereignty, even if it has all the formal characteristics of a sovereign state. If this is news or revelation to you, then you don’t understand anything about politics.

It seems to be news to you that Kremlin is lying most of the time, including about how they're pissing away your country for no reason other than misplaced ambitions of a deranged gnome. Or you know it and just don't care.

You know a lot about false accusations; for me personally this is not news.

It seems that the word “denazification” in relation to Ukraine especially touches a nerve with you, but among the goals of Russia’s special military operation this is not the main thing, “demilitarization” has higher priority, and the neutral non-aligned military status of Ukraine is the most important thing that Russia wants from Ukraine. And of course this goal will be achieved.

Even under your imperialistic and simplistic view of the world, it seems that Ukraine has decided they have a say on  whose influence they are better of with. Even a "subject" seems to be able to choose the "whateverf**k" that fits best.

I am not sure what you call "actual sovereignty", Ukraine is a recognised independent nation and as any country has to live with a range of influences - no country is free to do at will, not even the US, they are all subject to conditions, influences and relations. By now, they have figured out that Moscow would treat them like they treat the rest of the "subjects" - impoverishing them, sending them to die and letting them to deal with the local despot. They want to try something different.

In the case of geographically close countries in different weight categories, this works like gravity - you cannot just decide to choose a different source of influence, this will inevitably have consequences.