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April 21, 2025, 08:11:01 AM
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EDIT:Seems that Russia is doing an Easter ceasefire even in the uncertainty of Ukraine. Seems that Ukraine, at the behest of some of the European leaders, has slightly agreed to a ceasefire. This wasn't done directly by Zelensky, but rather by some of his key people in the Ukraine government.

What I don't get is how the whole thing had to happen like the war is a joke, lives are been taken a way from people, loved ones and homes destroyed and we can't even find some of the children, adults who encounter such disaster, what I'm saying is, if they have the power to give the order of Easter ceasefire, why can't they use that same power to stop the war instead? Is like they derive joy from this ongoing war. It would be nice if they stop the war this very Easter rather than stop then come back to continue the battle, is not even funny. European leaders agree to the ceasefire but they can't take their time to choose a date to decide how or when to stop this war.

 
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April 21, 2025, 03:49:45 PM
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Well there is new "toys" to experience  with, test on the Battlefield.
Now machine guns mounted on drones joined the battle. If this things in action lock unto you, kiss your sorry a*s goodby.

𝙰 𝚙𝚞𝚛𝚎𝚕𝚢 𝚙𝚎𝚎𝚛-𝚝𝚘-𝚙𝚎𝚎𝚛 𝚟𝚎𝚛𝚜𝚒𝚘𝚗 𝚘𝚏 𝚎𝚕𝚎𝚌𝚝𝚛𝚘𝚗𝚒𝚌 𝚌𝚊𝚜𝚑 𝚠𝚘𝚞𝚕𝚍 𝚊𝚕𝚕𝚘𝚠 𝚘𝚗𝚕𝚒𝚗𝚎 𝚙𝚊𝚢𝚖𝚎𝚗𝚝𝚜 𝚝𝚘 𝚋𝚎 𝚜𝚎𝚗𝚝 𝚍𝚒𝚛𝚎𝚌𝚝𝚕𝚢 𝚏𝚛𝚘𝚖 𝚘𝚗𝚎 𝚙𝚊𝚛𝚝𝚢 𝚝𝚘 𝚊𝚗𝚘𝚝𝚑𝚎𝚛 𝚠𝚒𝚝𝚑𝚘𝚞𝚝 𝚐𝚘𝚒𝚗𝚐 𝚝𝚑𝚛𝚘𝚞𝚐𝚑 𝚊 𝚏𝚒𝚗𝚊𝚗𝚌𝚒𝚊𝚕 𝚒𝚗𝚜𝚝𝚒𝚝𝚞𝚝𝚒𝚘𝚗.
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April 21, 2025, 06:46:02 PM
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Well there is new "toys" to experience  with, test on the Battlefield.
Now machine guns mounted on drones joined the battle. If this things in action lock unto you, kiss your sorry a*s goodby.

If only somebody would invent anti-drone drones.      Cool

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April 21, 2025, 09:04:01 PM
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Zelensky is a pure warmonger.

Putin wanted a ceasefire for 3 days over Easter. But he would only authorize it if Zelensky would so agree.

Zelensky said Putin was lying, and wouldn't agree. No ceasefire.

Not enough dead in Ukraine. Get the young and the women to fight and die right along with the 60-year-olds.

Really, though. If the people can't se the warmonger in Zelensky, it's their own fault when they die.

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This is fake information.

Putin announced an unilateral 30 hour cease-fire in public however, Ruzzia has not put in place any short of cease-fire, there are still Ruzzian drones over Ukraine, there is still shelling and some attacks in several locations of the front

There is very limited interest in a real cesase fire from Ruzzia at this moment. The relatively pro-Ruzzian US narrative is helping Ruzzia much more than Ukraine - although one thing is the narrative an another "moving on" for real, which would make of Trump the mock of the world.


Seems that you missed the part about Putin waiting for agreement from Zelensky before he set his ceasefire in place. Zelensky responded with a nothing to negative answer, so the whole idea fell through. Zelensky is such a warmonger that he couldn't even test out a 3-day ceasefire. Would he even agree to a 1-day ceasefire?

Be that as it may, Russia is gradually liberating Ukraine from Zelensky-types, and from the whole banking system that wants to destroy Russia in general.

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EDIT:Seems that Russia is doing an Easter ceasefire even in the uncertainty of Ukraine. Seems that Ukraine, at the behest of some of the European leaders, has slightly agreed to a ceasefire. This wasn't done directly by Zelensky, but rather by some of his key people in the Ukraine government.

That is fake information.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dI0ZirlF49Q

No ifs, not buts, unilateral. But it did not happen anyway, Ruzzia kept basically fighting but at lower intensity - and for anyone who understands war, it is simply undoale to order "an immediate cease fire" in those terms.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/4/19/russia-putin-declares-easter-ceasefire-in-ukraine-conflict
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Russia declares unilateral Easter truce
Putin announces a 30-hour ceasefire that Zelenskyy dismisses as ‘another attempt by Putin to play with human lives’.

In fact Zelensky offered an even larger option 30 days in March, met with... "Ruzzia Diplomacy".

Let's not forget who invaded who, shall we.

Meanwhile, Ukraine is increasinly able to use JDAMS equivalents. The Ukrainian air battle seems to be turning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4bwR95AN_M
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April 21, 2025, 10:43:40 PM
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In fact Zelensky offered an even larger option 30 days in March, met with... "Ruzzia Diplomacy".

Let's not forget who invaded who, shall we.

Meanwhile, Ukraine is increasinly able to use JDAMS equivalents. The Ukrainian air battle seems to be turning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4bwR95AN_M


Oh look, paxmao's wunderwaffe #79
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April 21, 2025, 11:10:41 PM
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That is fake information.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dI0ZirlF49Q

No ifs, not buts, unilateral. But it did not happen anyway, Ruzzia kept basically fighting but at lower intensity - and for anyone who understands war, it is simply undoale to order "an immediate cease fire" in those terms.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/4/19/russia-putin-declares-easter-ceasefire-in-ukraine-conflict
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Russia declares unilateral Easter truce
Putin announces a 30-hour ceasefire that Zelenskyy dismisses as ‘another attempt by Putin to play with human lives’.

In fact Zelensky offered an even larger option 30 days in March, met with... "Ruzzia Diplomacy".

Let's not forget who invaded who, shall we.

Meanwhile, Ukraine is increasinly able to use JDAMS equivalents. The Ukrainian air battle seems to be turning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4bwR95AN_M


Russia reduced its attacks over the Easter ceasefire. But they had to do some fighting because Ukraine kept on fighting. Russia had to protect itself and its troops.

Russia does not accept Zelensky as the legal authority for Ukraine. Zelensky's offers of a 30-day ceasefire are about as important as a paxmao offer of a 30-day ceasefire.

Since Ukraine started the invasion about 2014, and intensified it right before Russia formally entered the war in 2022 (to stop Ukraine), we shall not forget. Further, we will not forget that it is the West that is really doing the attacking. Ukraine is just their current proxy. Let's not forget that the West wants to disregard all its agreements to not press closer to Russia for the purposes of destroying Russia and stealing their lands.

Ukraine's possible improvement in weaponry will only cause Russia to intensify its operations. Russia is more-or-less fighting a gentleman's war. Rather than just out and out destroying Ukraine, they are simply matching Ukraine in a fight, and gradually taking control of 'former' Ukraine lands. Any time Russia wanted to take Ukraine down... Oreshnik. And if Ukraine improves its armament, this might well happen.

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Well there is new "toys" to experience  with, test on the Battlefield.
Now machine guns mounted on drones joined the battle. If this things in action lock unto you, kiss your sorry a*s goodby.


One day swat teams will be using these or there will be autonomous drones sent out to hunt for targets. In fact AI running through facial recognition system global mesh will be integrated into many platforms including drones for even the most harmless or mundane transgressions by the citizenry. Every nano sensor every few square meters in your smart town , smart street and home will be fully loaded for your "safety and convenience". In fact many will applaud it until their local bank ATM notifies the authorities in that country where he dropped his litter on the pavement while on holiday just before he walked into the airport and it was too late for the automated system to deduct the fine from his digital credits and now the fine has a large penalty attached that has emptied this weeks credits. You ain't seen nothing yet.

Be thankful such a system will be in the hands of a far greater enemy of the whole of humanity for only a short time before the delusion comes to a sudden hard stop.

but they can't take their time to choose a date to decide how or when to stop this war.

Because the miracle man they are currently getting their instructions from will see to it this war spills into europe. A global conflict is being organised right in front of yall. All that is needed is the spark to light the fuse. If I was a betting person (which I am not as it is against my faith) I would say an "incident" in the Balkans or the middle east or Taiwan should light that fuse and global conflict will begin overnight.
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Well there is new "toys" to experience  with, test on the Battlefield.
Now machine guns mounted on drones joined the battle. If this things in action lock unto you, kiss your sorry a*s goodby.


One day swat teams will be using these or there will be autonomous drones sent out to hunt for targets. In fact AI running through facial recognition system mesh will be integrated into many platforms including drones for even the most harmless or mundane transgressions by the citizenry. Every nano sensor every few square meters in your smart town , smart street and home will be fully loaded for your "safety and convenience". In fact many will applaud it. You ain't seen nothing yet.

Be thankful such a system will be in the hands of a far greater enemy of the whole of humanity for only a short time before the delusion comes to a sudden hard stop.

but they can't take their time to choose a date to decide how or when to stop this war.

Because the miracle man they are currently getting their instructions from will see to it this war spills into europe. A global conflict is being organised right in front of yall. All that is needed is the spark to light the fuse. If I was a betting person (which I am not as it is against my faith) I would say an "incident" in the Balkans should light that fuse and global conflict will begin overnight.

If another like Biden gets in, the US might experience this. We almost had it happen as it is. Thank Goodness for Trump so that we have a break from our internal war.

If another Biden gets in, we the common people of America might be asking Russia for help... like Russian people asked us for help during the cold war. Btw, we turned them down.

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........

I did have a experience yesterday moving on a public road. The guy that a camera mounted on his house following my movements and playing a prerecord message. No, no special expensive neighborhood, not even a "smart town" in fact a pothole riddled road. What a glorious future ahead....

Soon you will only meet "Trump's" and "Biden's":
https://x.com/i/status/1893726120417149245 or cheap version https://x.com/i/status/1894123112171802836

Thats why the Luigi Mangione case is no case at all, the usual media stund.


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If only somebody would invent anti-drone drones.      Cool
Yes, still a lot to learn, do not expect an end anytime soon. A lot of politics,  theatrics to come.
Only a complete financial meltdown will but a immediate stop to it.

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April 22, 2025, 10:42:04 PM
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In fact Zelensky offered an even larger option 30 days in March, met with... "Ruzzia Diplomacy".

Let's not forget who invaded who, shall we.

Meanwhile, Ukraine is increasinly able to use JDAMS equivalents. The Ukrainian air battle seems to be turning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4bwR95AN_M


Oh look, paxmao's wunderwaffe #79

I did not know you liked it. Here, have another...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdu1FRCTC7Y

I would not call it wunderwaffe to be honest. This are drones made with technology available decades ago - so you do not need any "wunder" to strike near Moscow, just a basic "waffe".


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That is fake information.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dI0ZirlF49Q

No ifs, not buts, unilateral. But it did not happen anyway, Ruzzia kept basically fighting but at lower intensity - and for anyone who understands war, it is simply undoale to order "an immediate cease fire" in those terms.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/4/19/russia-putin-declares-easter-ceasefire-in-ukraine-conflict
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Russia declares unilateral Easter truce
Putin announces a 30-hour ceasefire that Zelenskyy dismisses as ‘another attempt by Putin to play with human lives’.

In fact Zelensky offered an even larger option 30 days in March, met with... "Ruzzia Diplomacy".

Let's not forget who invaded who, shall we.

Meanwhile, Ukraine is increasinly able to use JDAMS equivalents. The Ukrainian air battle seems to be turning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4bwR95AN_M


Russia reduced its attacks over the Easter ceasefire. But they had to do some fighting because Ukraine kept on fighting. Russia had to protect itself and its troops.

Russia does not accept Zelensky as the legal authority for Ukraine. Zelensky's offers of a 30-day ceasefire are about as important as a paxmao offer of a 30-day ceasefire.

Since Ukraine started the invasion about 2014, and intensified it right before Russia formally entered the war in 2022 (to stop Ukraine), we shall not forget. Further, we will not forget that it is the West that is really doing the attacking. Ukraine is just their current proxy. Let's not forget that the West wants to disregard all its agreements to not press closer to Russia for the purposes of destroying Russia and stealing their lands.

Ukraine's possible improvement in weaponry will only cause Russia to intensify its operations. Russia is more-or-less fighting a gentleman's war. Rather than just out and out destroying Ukraine, they are simply matching Ukraine in a fight, and gradually taking control of 'former' Ukraine lands. Any time Russia wanted to take Ukraine down... Oreshnik. And if Ukraine improves its armament, this might well happen.

Cool

That is fake information (to such a ridiculous point this time that I wonder if your are just enjoying loosing any credibility)

1 - Ruzzia invaded Crimea in 2014 - which was an internationally Ukranian territory - recognised by the US and even by Ruzzia since 1991.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annexation_of_Crimea_by_the_Russian_Federation

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n February and March 2014, Russia invaded the Crimean Peninsula, part of Ukraine, and then annexed it.

https://news.un.org/en/story/2014/03/464812

On regards to Zelensky's legitimacy, Ruzzia is effective trying to make it look like if he was not there. But... he is there. So if Putin rejects the 30 days cease-fire arguing whatever about it the US will progress in their understanding of "Ruzzian Diplomacy" and who wants and does not want peace all the same.
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Russia reduced its attacks over the Easter ceasefire. But they had to do some fighting because Ukraine kept on fighting. Russia had to protect itself and its troops.

Russia does not accept Zelensky as the legal authority for Ukraine. Zelensky's offers of a 30-day ceasefire are about as important as a paxmao offer of a 30-day ceasefire.

Since Ukraine started the invasion about 2014, and intensified it right before Russia formally entered the war in 2022 (to stop Ukraine), we shall not forget. Further, we will not forget that it is the West that is really doing the attacking. Ukraine is just their current proxy. Let's not forget that the West wants to disregard all its agreements to not press closer to Russia for the purposes of destroying Russia and stealing their lands.

Ukraine's possible improvement in weaponry will only cause Russia to intensify its operations. Russia is more-or-less fighting a gentleman's war. Rather than just out and out destroying Ukraine, they are simply matching Ukraine in a fight, and gradually taking control of 'former' Ukraine lands. Any time Russia wanted to take Ukraine down... Oreshnik. And if Ukraine improves its armament, this might well happen.

Cool

That is fake information (to such a ridiculous point this time that I wonder if your are just enjoying loosing any credibility)

1 - Ruzzia invaded Crimea in 2014 - which was an internationally Ukranian territory - recognised by the US and even by Ruzzia since 1991.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annexation_of_Crimea_by_the_Russian_Federation

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n February and March 2014, Russia invaded the Crimean Peninsula, part of Ukraine, and then annexed it.

https://news.un.org/en/story/2014/03/464812

On regards to Zelensky's legitimacy, Ruzzia is effective trying to make it look like if he was not there. But... he is there. So if Putin rejects the 30 days cease-fire arguing whatever about it the US will progress in their understanding of "Ruzzian Diplomacy" and who wants and does not want peace all the same.


You haven't figure out, yet, that the Ukraine government, with the help and under the direction of the West, was influencing and even harming Crimea just as they were influencing and harming the people of the Black Sea Corridor. Russia simply is liberating the Black Sea Corridor people as it did the people of Crimea back in 2014.

I don't blame you much. Most of the Western media simply prints what the Western governments want them to print. So, it's not really your fault that you don't understand this. One of the proofs of this is Trump's stance since he talked with Putin in that original visit. The Tucker Carlson visit to Russia is another.

Zelensky's only real legitimacy is that he is a liar. Actually, he wasn't the on who broke the Easter ceasefire. Why not? He never made that agreement with Putin. Some of the higher-ups in the Ukraine government made that agreement. So, when the agreement was broken by Zelensky, he had never made it in the first place. The point is, Zelensky is a usurper - a dictator - and even the government of Ukraine doesn't want him. So, Putin is right about the lack of formal Ukraine authority of Zelensky.

The fact that you quote Wikipedia as a source for something as important as this, shows that you are entirely backward in your thinking, anyway. Wikipedia can easily be refuted at times because of their contradictory info within them.

Consider chlorine dioxide. Wikipedia says that it is poison, but also that it is used in water treatment, even in US cities. The Dupont company sells it by the train car load to other countries to clean up their lakes, ponds, and marshes. All kinds of contradictory info with Wikipedia.

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Bummer, 51st GRAU one of Russias largest ammo deposits (near Moscow) has been hit.
https://en.defence-ua.com/news/the_51st_grau_arsenal_60_km_from_moscow_was_destroyed_why_it_was_the_most_difficult_target_and_what_was_hidden_inside-14272.html

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^^^ Seems that paxmao is partially right. Make money by investing in military armament.

The above will not stop Russia. The only thing it might do is to cause Putin to realize that spanking the Kiev child is going to have to include putting him in prison. Of course, the prison won't hurt Zelensky at all. It will simply cause him to flee to one of his mansions in some other country. The people who it will hurt are the foolish Ukrainians who decided to unite themselves with Zelensky.

It's a total shame that all the wonderful properties of Ukraine - that Putin was trying to preserve by a limited attack - will have to be destroyed to put down the Ukraine uprising. It's becoming more evident that when the Ukrainians who fled Ukraine before the start of the war... that when they return, they will have to rebuild Ukraine completely. Of course, Russia and the world will help them. At least, with Zelensky and his army destroyed or gone, there will be peace.

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Does anybody think Zelensky is on the side of Ukraine? He knows that he is losing US help. Nobody is sure that Europe can help Ukraine. Russia keeps closing in and taking more lands away from Ukraine. Yet Zelensky does something so stupid as to drone-attack strongholds inside Russia. Does he really think that those attacks will do anything other than make Russians really angry at him?

If any Russian people were angry at the things Putin seemed to do to Ukraine in 2022, now that their homeland is being droned, they will turn to be on Putin's side, and their patriotism will grow even stronger. Thank you, Zelensky, for helping to get more than a thousand Russians a day to join the Russian military. Poor, dumb, Ukrainians. They don't have a clue that Zelensky is really fighting against them. Of course, maybe Zelensky doesn't realize it himself... what, with all the vacations he is getting to the various peace-talk locations.

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Does anybody think Zelensky is on the side of Ukraine? He knows that he is losing US help. Nobody is sure that Europe can help Ukraine. Russia keeps closing in and taking more lands away from Ukraine. Yet Zelensky does something so stupid as to drone-attack strongholds inside Russia. Does he really think that those attacks will do anything other than make Russians really angry at him?

If any Russian people were angry at the things Putin seemed to do to Ukraine in 2022, now that their homeland is being droned, they will turn to be on Putin's side, and their patriotism will grow even stronger. Thank you, Zelensky, for helping to get more than a thousand Russians a day to join the Russian military. Poor, dumb, Ukrainians. They don't have a clue that Zelensky is really fighting against them. Of course, maybe Zelensky doesn't realize it himself... what, with all the vacations he is getting to the various peace-talk locations.

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Either Zelensky is delusional or outright stupid. He rejected the best deal he could get for in 2025. If Ukraine don't want US, US should just leave. Let the Europeans play the war games in Europe. US can't just destroy its economy to feed warmongers in Europe.
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Looks like Ukraine as a nation has shot themselves in the head. Is that something that the world leaders wanted to happen? Whether they wanted it or not, they just might be getting it.

Since a lot of corruption is set up in Ukraine, it just might be that Trump getting rid of the corruption will be what kills Ukraine. Trump didn't want it to happen this way. But he was playing a losing game trying to appease both Russia and the European Union.

This might mean a formal WW3 in the near future, but Trump's US people backing out of the talks are the only thing left that they could have done, with these two stubborn countries. And Zelensky, especially... foolishly stubborn.

Since things are so complicated, who can tell what the final outcome will really be?

Note that the article says that Russia is NOT a great power. However, had Russia wanted to do a total, fast military conquest of Ukraine, they would have done it a different way. What Russia wanted was to let Ukraine live while putting down their rebellious ways.


There Will Be No Ukrainian Peace Deal



https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2025/04/23/there-will-be-no-ukrainian-peace-deal/
Trump has not included in the deal Russian Donbas, which also voted to be returned to Russia or the other Russian areas that Russian forces have liberated and have been reincorporated into Russia.

In other words, so far, other than Crimea, President Trump has offered President Putin none of the former Russian territory that is now again part of Russia herself.  Is the implication that Putin must hand back to Ukraine the territory from which Russian soldiers have driven out Ukrainian soldiers?  So Putin's 3+ years of war was all for nothing?

Zelensky himself, treated by Trump as Ukraine's leader despite the fact that Zelensky's term has expired and he is no longer legally or constitutionally the president of Ukraine, states that he will not even discuss recognizing Crimea as Russian territory:  Crimea "is our territory, the territory of the people of Ukraine. We have nothing to talk about on this topic."  https://www.rt.com/russia/616120-ukraine-crimea-recognition-zelensky/

To understand how absurd Zelensky is, consider that Crimea is the home since the 1700s of the base of Russia's Black Sea Navy, Russia's access to the Mediterranean.

As Zelensky appears to have a veto, even Trump's partial concession to Russia has no chance.  

Trump threatens that he will walk away from the negotiations.  That w0uld be a good thing if he takes American weapons and money when he goes.  

Zelensky would be left to deal with Putin, perhaps an easy task as Putin and Lavrov continue to bleat for negotiations, neglecting their responsibility to win a war that has gone on for far too long drawing in the US and Europe.  It seems Zelensky is relying on Britain and France to send their troops to continue the fight against Russia. The French president is talking about extending France's nuclear umbrella to include Ukraine.

Putin and Lavrov seem to prefer a negotiated deal to a military victory.  Would the Kremlin accept a deal that requires Russia to give up battlefield successes won at a large cost in Russian life, the life of young men lost and gone and unavailable to create needed Russian population?  Is it Putin's hope for a Great Power Agreement that has prolonged the conflict?

A great power agreement happens only among great powers, but President Putin has convinced the West that Russia is irresolute, averse to using force, and only wants a negotiated settlement to the conflict with Ukraine, for which Putin will pay almost any price, no matter the humiliation.
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Russia reduced its attacks over the Easter ceasefire. But they had to do some fighting because Ukraine kept on fighting. Russia had to protect itself and its troops.

Russia does not accept Zelensky as the legal authority for Ukraine. Zelensky's offers of a 30-day ceasefire are about as important as a paxmao offer of a 30-day ceasefire.

Since Ukraine started the invasion about 2014, and intensified it right before Russia formally entered the war in 2022 (to stop Ukraine), we shall not forget. Further, we will not forget that it is the West that is really doing the attacking. Ukraine is just their current proxy. Let's not forget that the West wants to disregard all its agreements to not press closer to Russia for the purposes of destroying Russia and stealing their lands.

Ukraine's possible improvement in weaponry will only cause Russia to intensify its operations. Russia is more-or-less fighting a gentleman's war. Rather than just out and out destroying Ukraine, they are simply matching Ukraine in a fight, and gradually taking control of 'former' Ukraine lands. Any time Russia wanted to take Ukraine down... Oreshnik. And if Ukraine improves its armament, this might well happen.

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That is fake information (to such a ridiculous point this time that I wonder if your are just enjoying loosing any credibility)

1 - Ruzzia invaded Crimea in 2014 - which was an internationally Ukranian territory - recognised by the US and even by Ruzzia since 1991.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annexation_of_Crimea_by_the_Russian_Federation

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n February and March 2014, Russia invaded the Crimean Peninsula, part of Ukraine, and then annexed it.

https://news.un.org/en/story/2014/03/464812

On regards to Zelensky's legitimacy, Ruzzia is effective trying to make it look like if he was not there. But... he is there. So if Putin rejects the 30 days cease-fire arguing whatever about it the US will progress in their understanding of "Ruzzian Diplomacy" and who wants and does not want peace all the same.


You haven't figure out, yet, that the Ukraine government, with the help and under the direction of the West, was influencing and even harming Crimea just as they were influencing and harming the people of the Black Sea Corridor. Russia simply is liberating the Black Sea Corridor people as it did the people of Crimea back in 2014.

I don't blame you much. Most of the Western media simply prints what the Western governments want them to print. So, it's not really your fault that you don't understand this. One of the proofs of this is Trump's stance since he talked with Putin in that original visit. The Tucker Carlson visit to Russia is another.

Zelensky's only real legitimacy is that he is a liar. Actually, he wasn't the on who broke the Easter ceasefire. Why not? He never made that agreement with Putin. Some of the higher-ups in the Ukraine government made that agreement. So, when the agreement was broken by Zelensky, he had never made it in the first place. The point is, Zelensky is a usurper - a dictator - and even the government of Ukraine doesn't want him. So, Putin is right about the lack of formal Ukraine authority of Zelensky.

The fact that you quote Wikipedia as a source for something as important as this, shows that you are entirely backward in your thinking, anyway. Wikipedia can easily be refuted at times because of their contradictory info within them.

Consider chlorine dioxide. Wikipedia says that it is poison, but also that it is used in water treatment, even in US cities. The Dupont company sells it by the train car load to other countries to clean up their lakes, ponds, and marshes. All kinds of contradictory info with Wikipedia.

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The fact that you have no sources makes me think that Wiki is more than enough. But again, you lie is so blatan that not even the most conspiratards would believe it anyway and it is so easy to check that is unnecesary any more effort from my side.

That was before you contradicted yourself now by saying that "Ruzzia liberated Crimea" while previously arguin that Ukraine invaded Ruzzia. As usual, you do not even bother to make sense, so again... no need to put effort on your fakes.

Crimea is Ukraine.
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To understand how absurd a Russian Black Sea Navy is you have to understand that it first would have to pass the Bosporus strait (right through the heart of Istanbul) to arrive in the Sea of Marmara then pass the Dardanelles strait again Turkey territorium (NATO) to arrive at the Aegean Sea Greece (EU) waters. Now the fleet is ready to do some major battles in the Mediterranean Sea, at least some drunk a*s politician will tell you so. Turkish people if they wanted to stand on the bridge and in the literal sense piss on the passing Russian Navy.
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^^^ You, and especially the joker above your post, are missing the whole point.

What happens when a missile or a drone with explosives reaches its target? It explodes, of course.

Now, consider the real reason why Zelensky is drafting the women. It's 'cause women are special. They have sympathy built into them for raising kids with a loving hand.

We need more women to sympathize with the missiles and the drones, because their life is so short. The women troops can actually make those exploding devices feel good about themselves in their last few seconds of life... maybe pet and cuddle them, a little.



If you really want to see how bad the war is getting for Ukraine, simply go to a Ukrainian dating site. You can find women as young as in their early twenty's advertising for a foreign husband as old as 80 or 90.



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If you really want to see how bad the war is getting for Ukraine, simply go to a Ukrainian dating site. You can find women as young as in their early twenty's advertising for a foreign husband as old as 80 or 90.



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The Odessa, Ukrainian dating scam is in operation way longer then the war. It is a full blown industry where everyone takes his share, from Restaurants to Agencies and so on.  80 or 90 year old dudes have been taken to the cleaners for a very long time, even before Zelensky.

Random article from June 24, 2021
https://www.news18.com/news/buzz/british-man-duped-of-250000-on-pretext-of-marriage-to-a-ukrainian-3886691.html

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