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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
Total Voters: 147

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December 31, 2022, 07:53:03 PM
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For the Champions League, it's both teams scoring, Real Madrid haven't been a good defending side though, and Liverpool ? LOL still not in a good form to withstand the informed Karim Benzema who's back from Injury.
This is Champions League, and Clubs play Champions League with a kind of different spirit or energy from what they do in their normal league because it's a bigger compition, So don't see Liverpool poor performance as deterant to not give Real Madrid tough time in that game, Remember that in football most times whenever a team sees his rival they usually wakes up from slumber and that could play out in their game.
Liverpool is a good club but it is always difficult for them to score goals in the Champions League final against Real Madrid. The last time when they had Mane together with salah I expected them to score good goals but they could not.
I don't therefore trust Liverpool to score against Real Madrid (not impossible).
But I see BTS in PSG vs Bayern

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December 31, 2022, 08:23:16 PM
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I don't know why people were disbelief with bayern although only two players who will be absent from playing against PSG but people were taking if that will be making bayern as a weak team. Football was a woking from 11 players. Those two players can still be substituted and there will always be a chance for the new players being able to replace them. I thought that bayern has very strong candidate to replace both of them. I guess bayern has been considering which potential players that gonna be replace all of them before the match against PSG will come.
I don't think problem for Bayern Munich after two main player absent are Sadio Mane and Manuel Neuer, actually for Sadio Mane position leaving still have many other alternative can replace it, Jamal Musiala, Sergey Ganabri, Leroy Sané and Kingsley Coman have the same quality or level with Sadio Mane.

For goal keeper, Bayern Munich has anticipation by recruiting new goal keeper after having rumor with Croatia Goal keeper Dominik Livakovic and have other rumor with Morocco goals keeper interested sign by Bayern Munich, not have pessimistic with Bayern Munich opportunity in Champion League match against PSG at 16 round.
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Bayern Munich cannot afford to miss some good players in this game against PSG. Both teams are considered the strongest teams in the world, but the difference is that the bench at PSG is a bit stronger. PSG have big ambitions to win the CL, but in Bayern Munich they may have the strongest opponent imaginable. Speaking of strong teams, I can remember a match where Bayern Munich completely outplayed Manchester City and eventually won 1-3. That was perhaps the best game ever played by a team in the CL. But that City team no longer exists, then they were really a lot less than now.

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December 31, 2022, 08:43:46 PM
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I don't think problem for Bayern Munich after two main player absent are Sadio Mane and Manuel Neuer, actually for Sadio Mane position leaving still have many other alternative can replace it, Jamal Musiala, Sergey Ganabri, Leroy Sané and Kingsley Coman have the same quality or level with Sadio Mane.

For goal keeper, Bayern Munich has anticipation by recruiting new goal keeper after having rumor with Croatia Goal keeper Dominik Livakovic and have other rumor with Morocco goals keeper interested sign by Bayern Munich, not have pessimistic with Bayern Munich opportunity in Champion League match against PSG at 16 round.
We've been talking too much nonsense about Bayern Munich and PSG currently meeting in the Champions League in February. All of us don't know yet what will happen to them as there are still 40 more days to the match. However we can't think both teams will escape bad luck in their respective league matches, I mean both teams still might lose important players even if we think of alternatives.

I tend to follow the developments of both teams in their respective leagues, and anything we say about both teams preparing for the Champions League in more than a month from now is mere speculation.

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December 31, 2022, 09:10:16 PM
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The Champions League will now become more competitive. Every team will want to do well and secure the next round. Each team's coach will give different training to guide the team through different strategies. However, PSG, Real Madrid, Manchester City have more chances in the Champions League.
Every team that is already in the round of 16 actually has the same chance to fight better there (Champion League) even though the three teams you mentioned are teams that are still very strong so the chance to continue to survive until the final is clear. But they also need to provide greater consistency this season in order to achieve the good results they want, although two of the three teams you mentioned also had to lose as LaLiga entered the final stages.

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December 31, 2022, 09:12:34 PM
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Bayern Munich cannot afford to miss some good players in this game against PSG. Both teams are considered the strongest teams in the world, but the difference is that the bench at PSG is a bit stronger. PSG have big ambitions to win the CL, but in Bayern Munich they may have the strongest opponent imaginable. Speaking of strong teams, I can remember a match where Bayern Munich completely outplayed Manchester City and eventually won 1-3. That was perhaps the best game ever played by a team in the CL. But that City team no longer exists, then they were really a lot less than now.

If I only consider what happened in this moment, because it seems that PSG are still not completely good. Because maybe there are still key players they can't play, so PSG's performance in Ligue 1 hasn't gotten in good shape at the moment. But yes, I also realize that the matches in the Champions League still have a lot of time for them to prepare even better.
So whatever changes happen later in February, it looks like they might surprise us too.

The reason is that the key players from them, especially Bayern Munich, will of course have a new goalkeeper, so that also seems to make Bayern Munich's defense line maybe different. But yes, it's difficult to predict at this moment because the two teams on paper certainly have good quality.
Therefore, we can't say that any one of them will guarantee victory. Because with the long break that teams from the Bundesliga get, at least they will get better conditions later.

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December 31, 2022, 09:19:21 PM
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Bayern Munich cannot afford to miss some good players in this game against PSG. Both teams are considered the strongest teams in the world, but the difference is that the bench at PSG is a bit stronger. PSG have big ambitions to win the CL, but in Bayern Munich they may have the strongest opponent imaginable. Speaking of strong teams, I can remember a match where Bayern Munich completely outplayed Manchester City and eventually won 1-3. That was perhaps the best game ever played by a team in the CL. But that City team no longer exists, then they were really a lot less than now.
No doubt big clubs having good bench strength but still they can afford to missed out few players same happening in Bayern Munich case but as we all know still we have more than one month in this match and things are having no solid update about this all so talking too much about this match is not good right now Bayern Munich is doing their best for having the best alternative which will help them for having better results in coming matches as now they are also still have few weeks which will give them better development for their search of new goalkeeper and other players.

In soccer, we can expect too many unpredictable results but right now German giant is surely feeling problem due to their first choice goalkeeper is out of the squad for rest of the season with broken leg, hopefully they will settle this all quickly which will bring good development for them.

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December 31, 2022, 09:38:52 PM
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Bayern Munich cannot afford to miss some good players in this game against PSG. Both teams are considered the strongest teams in the world, but the difference is that the bench at PSG is a bit stronger. PSG have big ambitions to win the CL, but in Bayern Munich they may have the strongest opponent imaginable. Speaking of strong teams, I can remember a match where Bayern Munich completely outplayed Manchester City and eventually won 1-3. That was perhaps the best game ever played by a team in the CL. But that City team no longer exists, then they were really a lot less than now.

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Bayern loss of goalkeeper won't stop them from winning Psg they still have time to get a new goalkeeper
Both of them met in the finals years back and Bayern Munich still won

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December 31, 2022, 09:45:24 PM
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The problems for Dortmund are now more visible. Currently, apart from Nkunku, Chelsea have now brought in Enzo from Benfica at a pretty fantastic price, so I think Chelsea will really overhaul their squad, especially for the attack line.
This is a real problem if Dortmund still uses the current squad, especially since the chances for Moukoko and Jude to leave are still very large. Dortmund need to add to their striking power in attack to make this interesting later.
There is nothing wrong with Chelsea's squad presently if u ask me. As long as I know that the team lampard couldn't excel with, was later called the club world cup champions, and the UEFA champion league champions, I will continue saying that there is nothing wrong with Chelsea squad . If u check very well, there is no big difference between the 2021 champion league winner team and the present Poter team. The only noticeable difference is the management. Poter style of play is chelsea's only problem. He lacks tactics.


There's really nothing wrong with that, but looking at the Tuchel era, their game for strikers always had things that, even though there was nothing wrong, they were still lacking, even though they were filled with good players, so there were several strikers who ultimately failed.
Things are a little different now, Potter wants to change that and proves that by bringing back some pretty good forwards now.
It's a good thing for them especially with some of the strikers they have brought in now which could be a real complement to the current squad who are still not very good at finishing.

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December 31, 2022, 09:47:17 PM
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Bayern Munich cannot afford to miss some good players in this game against PSG. Both teams are considered the strongest teams in the world, but the difference is that the bench at PSG is a bit stronger. PSG have big ambitions to win the CL, but in Bayern Munich they may have the strongest opponent imaginable. Speaking of strong teams, I can remember a match where Bayern Munich completely outplayed Manchester City and eventually won 1-3. That was perhaps the best game ever played by a team in the CL. But that City team no longer exists, then they were really a lot less than now.

The matchup of Bayern Munich  vs Paris saint germain is definitely the highlight of the first round of the knockout stage this year. It is kinda sad that this match happens so early in the competition because both teams involved definitely belong to the big favorites to win the Champions League this year. For me the outcome of this match is totally open. PSG probably has a little more quality in the offense, but Bayern is a very strong team with good players on every position.
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December 31, 2022, 09:49:05 PM
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Munich is not a weak team. despite the absence of their main goalkeeper. they have Sven Ulreich. didn't play much before. but the quality cannot be underestimated.
although PSG is very strong up front. but if Munich manages to control the midfield strongly. I guess they just need a little effort to win.
Bayern Munich had to lose Manuel Neuer in the match against PSG, but that doesn't mean their strength will weaken, because they still have the option of using Sven Ulreich and Johannes Schenk. Even though these two goalkeepers don't have the same qualities as Manuel Neuer, in my opinion they can be used as backup options, because they are also worthy of replacing the role of Manuel Neuer who is predicted to be out for a long time due to injury.

PSG benefited because in the first leg they played at home, so if this opportunity can be used, it is likely that Bayern Munich will find it difficult to play aggressively at the Parc des Princes stadium. Moreover, PSG has three attackers who are in their best performance, this is an opportunity that PSG should really take advantage of, because when they travel to Bayern Munich, the match will look different and more open.
Losing Manuel Neuer against PSG might have some effect on the team but shouldn't be enough to kill the moral of the team. They have other options in that position who can also assure safety between the sticks for Bayern Munich in the match. They might not have the same level of quality as Manuel Neuer but can assure safety in the post for Bayern against PSG.
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December 31, 2022, 09:50:02 PM
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The Champions League will now become more competitive. Every team will want to do well and secure the next round. Each team's coach will give different training to guide the team through different strategies. However, PSG, Real Madrid, Manchester City have more chances in the Champions League.
Every team that is already in the round of 16 actually has the same chance to fight better there (Champion League) even though the three teams you mentioned are teams that are still very strong so the chance to continue to survive until the final is clear.
This round of 16 will not be easy for certain big clubs because they also must fight against big clubs in their round of 16. Likely PSG vs Bayern and also Liverpool vs Real Madrid. These two matches will be the most competitive and interesting matches to watch. They have their best squad, which is why it will depend on how their preparation, tactic during the match by their coach, and also their consistency during the match to optimize their ability.

If I only consider what happened in this moment, because it seems that PSG are still not completely good. Because maybe there are still key players they can't play, so PSG's performance in Ligue 1 hasn't gotten in good shape at the moment. But yes, I also realize that the matches in the Champions League still have a lot of time for them to prepare even better.
Sometimes, their passion and struggle in the Champions League are much bigger than in their league because the UCL is a very prestigious event. Even though PSG sometimes don't play optimally even though they have a lot of golden strikers, sometimes they haven't been able to give their best game in the UCL. Just like last season. But we still don't know how it will be in this season because it looks like they are looking more solid and consistent.

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December 31, 2022, 09:50:57 PM
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yes, of course Bayern Munich will prepare a replacement for Neuer as a goalkeeper because of course Bayern Munich has struggled so far to reach the last 16 of the Champions League later against PSG is not an easy opponent of course Bayern Munich needs to prepare their players really well to fight PSG later
Let's see how Messi and Mbappe will play with Bayern, these guys are World Cup finalists, PSG's attack can now be considered one of the most dangerous. Moreover, it will be doubly difficult for Bayern without Neuer. Bayern's attack is also very strong, so there can be many goals in matches between these teams. If PSG eventually manages to get past Bayern and win the Champions League, then this will be a triumph for the stellar pair of strikers.

PSG's attacking trio in Messi, Neymar and Mbappe are in top form from the world cup and will be a tough group to defend against in the Champions league. Facing PSG at this time will be a tough test for Bayern Munich especially in the absence of Neuer their top choice keeper. Bayern Munich's attack is also strong and can also cause troubles for PSG's defense in the coming game. Fans will be counting on Messi to bring same spirit from the world cup to the champions league and help PSG win the champions League.

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Bayern Munich cannot afford to miss some good players in this game against PSG. Both teams are considered the strongest teams in the world, but the difference is that the bench at PSG is a bit stronger. PSG have big ambitions to win the CL, but in Bayern Munich they may have the strongest opponent imaginable. Speaking of strong teams, I can remember a match where Bayern Munich completely outplayed Manchester City and eventually won 1-3. That was perhaps the best game ever played by a team in the CL. But that City team no longer exists, then they were really a lot less than now.

Two different league headers in Germany and France
Bayern loss of goalkeeper won't stop them from winning Psg they still have time to get a new goalkeeper
Both of them met in the finals years back and Bayern Munich still won

There was also different thing just like PSG lost none of its attackers like mbappe, neymar and messi while bayern must be losing sadio mane as the main attack from bayern. it seems like that bayern must also try to find the substitution for mane as soon as possible to make sure if there will be a plan b once mane would not able to recover from his injury. I thank bayern was urgently needs an attack who can do well during the match against PSG. I know that if having some great players like PSG didn't guarantee if the team can win against bayern too.
Bayern itself is always very strong. it has been doing so well during the group stage.

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January 01, 2023, 03:38:02 AM
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Fans will be counting on Messi to bring same spirit from the world cup to the champions league and help PSG win the champions League.
And this why mostly fans's prediction are goes wrong Grin

Messi already get every international trophies, so he's doesn't need to try hard, chill or have a party and play for fun only. Messi has a lot spirit on world cup because he haven't get it, now the spirit already gone, we will see it on the next 2 months PSG will only can reach to semi final.

I believe either Manchester City, Liverpool or Napoli will win this season because they're very hungry to get this trophy.
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Fans will be counting on Messi to bring same spirit from the world cup to the champions league and help PSG win the champions League.
With same spirit for PSG in Champions League, Messi need same luck to win it with PSG.

Messi already get every international trophies, so he's doesn't need to try hard, chill or have a party and play for fun only. Messi has a lot spirit on world cup because he haven't get it, now the spirit already gone, we will see it on the next 2 months PSG will only can reach to semi final.
I don't think Messi lost his love for football and if he still plays it, he will play it with a best as he can, for PSG, for Argentina or any team he is playing for.

If he no longer has his love for it, he will announce his retirement. I agree that he has nothing more to demonstrate, he has all in football and what keeps he continues is he wants to enjoy football until his body no longer allows him.

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I believe either Manchester City, Liverpool or Napoli will win this season because they're very hungry to get this trophy.
Manchester City and Liverpool can but Napoli are more likely can not. They don't have experience in Champions League like Manchester City and Liverpool and it is their disadvantage. They can make surprise like Atalanta years ago but winning Champions League is not what they can get.
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January 01, 2023, 04:44:54 AM
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Fans will be counting on Messi to bring same spirit from the world cup to the champions league and help PSG win the champions League.
And this why mostly fans's prediction are goes wrong Grin

Messi already get every international trophies, so he's doesn't need to try hard, chill or have a party and play for fun only. Messi has a lot spirit on world cup because he haven't get it, now the spirit already gone, we will see it on the next 2 months PSG will only can reach to semi final.

I believe either Manchester City, Liverpool or Napoli will win this season because they're very hungry to get this trophy.
The type of commitment and fight that Messi gave in the World Cup on behalf of Argentina he cannot give it for any club at his age. What he did in the World cup was the last fight of his career which he gave it all spiritually and physically. I don't think there is any motivation that will be up to what he had in the World Cup .
PSG fans should instead look upto to Mbappe to deliver them.

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January 01, 2023, 05:39:27 AM
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Munich is not a weak team. despite the absence of their main goalkeeper. they have Sven Ulreich. didn't play much before. but the quality cannot be underestimated.
although PSG is very strong up front. but if Munich manages to control the midfield strongly. I guess they just need a little effort to win.
Bayern Munich had to lose Manuel Neuer in the match against PSG, but that doesn't mean their strength will weaken, because they still have the option of using Sven Ulreich and Johannes Schenk. Even though these two goalkeepers don't have the same qualities as Manuel Neuer, in my opinion they can be used as backup options, because they are also worthy of replacing the role of Manuel Neuer who is predicted to be out for a long time due to injury.

PSG benefited because in the first leg they played at home, so if this opportunity can be used, it is likely that Bayern Munich will find it difficult to play aggressively at the Parc des Princes stadium. Moreover, PSG has three attackers who are in their best performance, this is an opportunity that PSG should really take advantage of, because when they travel to Bayern Munich, the match will look different and more open.
Losing Manuel Neuer against PSG might have some effect on the team but shouldn't be enough to kill the moral of the team. They have other options in that position who can also assure safety between the sticks for Bayern Munich in the match. They might not have the same level of quality as Manuel Neuer but can assure safety in the post for Bayern against PSG.

Losing Manuel Neuer will be like red carding an important player of Bayern while they play
He is a very important player for bayern munich
But all will go well of they get a replacement immediately the window already resumes today

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The type of commitment and fight that Messi gave in the World Cup on behalf of Argentina he cannot give it for any club at his age. What he did in the World cup was the last fight of his career which he gave it all spiritually and physically. I don't think there is any motivation that will be up to what he had in the World Cup .
PSG fans should instead look upto to Mbappe to deliver them.
These two players are actually still very good for the PSG team to rely on this season, so there is no need to ignore one of them and rely only on one of them. Because the more players a team can rely on, the better it will be for the team. After all, the opponent that PSG will face is also not a bad team this season, so PSG needs to make sure all their players are fit and reliable in every game.

PSG needs to get better motivation this season for a title in the Champions League, because PSG has never had a Champions League trophy during the team's career in the Champions League. So for this season PSG should be more motivated to get trophies so that their historical record gets better even though it won't be immediately on par with several teams that have won several trophies in the Champions League.

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January 01, 2023, 11:36:10 AM
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They are not too bad goalkeepers but are not at highest level. In Champions League, defense is important because if you can not protect your goal and get conceded goals from strong opponents, you will likely not be able to beat them. Goalkeepers are important too and people say they are about 50% of a club strength. It can be an exaggeration but it says about a truth of goalkeeper importance.
For me the strength of the team is collectively more influential, nobody stands out not even the goalkeeper, imagine if they have Manuel Neuer but their defense is weak then the end result won't be any worse than using an inexperienced keeper. It's true that the Champions League needs players of the highest quality and experience, but Sven Ulreich and Johannes Schenk also need to be given a chance.

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PSG on paper are considered as a stronger team but again we should check at past seasons. PSG failed in many seasons in many pairs when they were considered as a stronger team.

With best of Neymar, Mbappe and Messi, PSG are dangerous in attacking but in World Cup 2022 and lately in Ligue 1, we saw that Marquinhos can be a weakness of PSG defense. It might be their dead point in matches with Bayern.
All preparations have been made, the match between PSG and Bayern Munich is indeed the most crucial match and is awaited by many people, PSG has a trio of attackers who are in their best condition at the moment, while Bayern Munich also has reliable strikers who can collaborate to make it difficult for PSG's defense .

Bayern Munich's biggest weakness at the moment is not being strengthened by the main goalkeeper. For me this doesn't really play a big role, because the backup keeper they have also has quality, although not the same as Manuel Neuer.

Bayern are at a disadvantage without Neuer. He's not only a good keeper but he's also a leader. With him at the back of the Bayern defenders they have confidence. No disrespect to the back up goal keepers but for Bayern to win they really need to step. Neuer is the kind of keeper that can decide games for you. And the trio of Neymer, Mbappe and Messi are all in a very good form. I think PSG will win Bayern and qualify cause not only do they have the better attack (on paper) but they also have a very good midfield now. The addition of Fabian Ruiz to the PSG midfield makes them a very good team together with Verratti.
On paper, PSG are favored because they are playing at home, while PSG's attacking trio are also in their best condition. This is the moment they are trying to take advantage of, because talking about the strength of the team this season with the previous season also has the same players. That means there are not many changes they have in facing Bayern Munich in the knockout stages later.

Manuel Neuer is a general on the pitch as well as a leader who can make an impact on his team but if reserve goalkeepers are never given the chance you will never know how good they are on the pitch and in important games. I think one of the back-up keepers will give a positive result and they will get the best chance of the game.

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