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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
Total Voters: 147

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January 07, 2023, 10:40:57 PM
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Graham Potter actually took over Chelsea in a bad place.  It was a bit of his bad luck.  Dortmund is an opponent they can knock out.  Their situation in the league is not encouraging.  However, let's not forget that they were not in a very good position in the league the year they won the champions league, with a little luck, they can show success in the champions league again.

Chelsea’s current condition in the league shouldn’t be compared to what they can offer in the champions league. Champions league game is different from domestic league football. The rewards that come with the champions league game after every stage is enough for the players to be at their best expertise in the league. Chelsea will prevail in champions league game without any problem, that I’m very confident about.

I don't see Dortmund eliminating Chelsea as that would be a disgrace in the first place. Chelsea are tournament club as they enjoy playing in this kind of competition even more than league games and they do win them.

In the Champions League, Dortmund is no match for Chelsea. I don't believe these two teams have ever met in the Champions League, and this will be their first meeting. The game will be exciting to watch because each team will want to make history by defeating the other. However, I believe Chelsea has a better chance of progressing to the next round of the competition than Dortmund.

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January 07, 2023, 10:43:47 PM
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Management like Chelsea's never gave Lampard the chance to build the team with young players, but Arsenal supported Arteta and today they have the result of building with young players.

Chelsea did the right thing by sacking Lampard but where it seems they made a mistakes is by sacking Thomas Tuchel. Lampard wasn't ready for management and especially not a top club like Chelsea at that early stage of his career. Maybe they thought they could get some fairy tale kind of story from the decision of hiring him but it didn't end so well and he needed to be sacked so as to bring a better manager which succeeded very well.

Even now Lampard isn't doing very well for himself irrespective of him been degraded to clubs of his level of management yet he's yet to get the team going. Everton are performing badly and all that is because of the poor management Lampard has at this stage of his career. Maybe in future things will change but for now Lampard isn't suitable to manage any big club especially not at top levels of the premier league.
In my opinion, Chelsea made a huge mistake sacking Thomas Tuchel at the beginning of the season. It is true that the team was struggling at the moment and needed some changes to the situation. Thomas Tuchel should have been given more time after all he has proven to be worthy winning the league abd the champions league, he deserved to be given that benefit of doubt that he could still turn things around.
Chelsea didn't see this coming that they will be In this bad performance . Chelsea always sack their coach whenever they performance of the team is poor.  They don't have that patience for second chance and this time they brought in a new coach,  instead to get better it is becoming worse  .

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January 07, 2023, 10:45:22 PM
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I wouldn't say that Dortmund are no match for Chelsea now. Because we aren't watching the same old Chelsea anymore. Of course they have been better in the Champions League comparing to the English Premier League. But still they will need to make a big effort to be able to eliminate Dortmund. Despite Chelsea's being the favourite I still don't feel like Dortmund will give up so easily.

I know what Chelsea did to Milan in the group stage. But Dortmund can play better than Milan against them actually.

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January 07, 2023, 10:55:24 PM
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Only scoring goal will not bear good result for PSG. We know Messi Neymar Mbappe trio is a dangerous attack line for any team but I'm not satisfied with their defense. At this time, they have to prevent conceding goal. Overall team performance is need to win against strong team like Bayern Munich.
Bayern was not an easy opponent. It will be so difficult to be defeated. I meant we shall take a look at how mbappe was not even able to win against lens. PSG can only rely with its trio. PSG can do nothing without its trio. Bayern aware about the team will be facing a strong team and bayern has been making so many preparation against PSG. it seems like that bayern gonna try to beat PSG.
Psg may have no good result like last season when bayern was only losing in agregat. Im sure that bayern will be going to be very offensive against PSG or use counter attack strategy

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January 08, 2023, 01:28:48 AM
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Lionel Messi will be able to instill greater confidence in himself after winning the World Cup. As a result, he will play a big role in doing something good for PSG.

Previously, Lionel Messi also play an important role in PSG's achievements this season, Messi actively plays a role to build attacks in every match.
The round of 16 of the Champions League will begin soon, Paris Saint-Germain will have their opening match against Bayern Munich. It's a shame that the big match between the two teams happen at the start

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January 08, 2023, 02:25:14 AM
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Previously, Lionel Messi also play an important role in PSG's achievements this season, Messi actively plays a role to build attacks in every match.
The round of 16 of the Champions League will begin soon, Paris Saint-Germain will have their opening match against Bayern Munich. It's a shame that the big match between the two teams happen at the start
In a second season for PSG, Messi has a better form and bigger contribution for them. If Mbappe is PSG goal source, Neymar is another goal source but with more contribution for their operations in attacking, Messi is a bridge between their midfield and their front line. He connects PSG midfielders to their forwards and strikers and Messi attracts defenders of opponents with his movements too. He gives his team mates more space to play and he also sends them great passes to find opportunities of having goals.

Champions League will return next month and PSG needs Messi for it than need him for Ligue 1. I am sure Messi will be more reserved for Champions League matches but to have good performance there, he must have good preparation in Ligue 1 too.

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January 08, 2023, 03:32:19 AM
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I wouldn't say that Dortmund are no match for Chelsea now. Because we aren't watching the same old Chelsea anymore. Of course they have been better in the Champions League comparing to the English Premier League. But still they will need to make a big effort to be able to eliminate Dortmund. Despite Chelsea's being the favourite I still don't feel like Dortmund will give up so easily.

I know what Chelsea did to Milan in the group stage. But Dortmund can play better than Milan against them actually.
Dortmund is far stronger compared with chelsea. Even if chelsea was doing a bit better in the champion league and it's pure caused by luck. I will not underestimate chelsea but chelsea was getting easy club unlike another team which was competing in the difficult club. You can imagine once chelsea would be entering into the hard club and then im sure chelsea will not able to be qualified for the last 16.
The problem is if chelsea keeps showing the bad performance like this and i can't even imagine how bad chelsea in the match against dortmund. Chelsea's performance looks like a small team right now.
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January 08, 2023, 03:37:25 AM
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Previously, Lionel Messi also play an important role in PSG's achievements this season, Messi actively plays a role to build attacks in every match.
The round of 16 of the Champions League will begin soon, Paris Saint-Germain will have their opening match against Bayern Munich. It's a shame that the big match between the two teams happen at the start
the two European giants finally had to meet earlier. and indeed we must now look at one of the best of them. PSG vs Munich isn't easy to predict. but Munich has a weakness in goalkeepers at the moment. an advantage for PSG with the strength of their striker who is very dangerous.
PSG may be too relaxed for French Ligue 1. but for the UCL match, I'm sure they will be very serious with their full strength from the start of the fight.
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the two European giants finally had to meet earlier. and indeed we must now look at one of the best of them. PSG vs Munich isn't easy to predict. but Munich has a weakness in goalkeepers at the moment. an advantage for PSG with the strength of their striker who is very dangerous.
PSG may be too relaxed for French Ligue 1. but for the UCL match, I'm sure they will be very serious with their full strength from the start of the fight.
If we look at the weaknesses of the two teams today before their match took place, it is clear that Bayern Munich has more weaknesses in terms of players who are still injured and that is not only the goalkeeper, but also includes several defenders, midfielders and attackers. So this is of course very beneficial for the PSG team, which currently only has three injured players and one of them is a midfielder and two are defenders.

But considering that the match for these two teams will take place in mid-February, there is an opportunity for several Bayern Munich players to recover before the match takes place and that will certainly make Bayern Munich count again in the match, especially by the PSG team later.

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January 08, 2023, 08:47:07 AM
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Only scoring goal will not bear good result for PSG. We know Messi Neymar Mbappe trio is a dangerous attack line for any team but I'm not satisfied with their defense. At this time, they have to prevent conceding goal. Overall team performance is need to win against strong team like Bayern Munich.

Are you using their last few matches to judge their next move? Mbape, Messi and Hakimi were all away for the holidays, though Messi is back and hasn't played yet, as their scheduled next match is next week, probably they should all be back before the round of matches this week.  Bayen did extraordinarily in their group stage and comes first but I believe if the PSG squad is complete, they will do so many things to Bayern Munich because PSG players were one of the best performing players that tush world cup, Messi, Hakimi, Neymar and Mbape are just what I don't think Bayern will send out of the round of 16 so easily.

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Are you using their last few matches to judge their next move? Mbape, Messi and Hakimi were all away for the holidays, though Messi is back and hasn't played yet, as their scheduled next match is next week, probably they should all be back before the round of matches this week.  Bayen did extraordinarily in their group stage and comes first but I believe if the PSG squad is complete, they will do so many things to Bayern Munich because PSG players were one of the best performing players that tush world cup, Messi, Hakimi, Neymar and Mbape are just what I don't think Bayern will send out of the round of 16 so easily.

The absence of Messi and Neymar had an impact on the team in the match with Lens, but now they are back in the game. And there is more than a month before the first match with Bayern, which is a lot of time, and by the way, Bayern have been resting all this time and the Bundesliga matches will begin only in 12 days. We need to look at the state of the teams closer to the first match, now it's too early to assess their shape, especially since Bayern still does not have official games.

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January 08, 2023, 11:55:59 AM
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I wouldn't say that Dortmund are no match for Chelsea now. Because we aren't watching the same old Chelsea anymore. Of course they have been better in the Champions League comparing to the English Premier League. But still they will need to make a big effort to be able to eliminate Dortmund. Despite Chelsea's being the favourite I still don't feel like Dortmund will give up so easily.

I know what Chelsea did to Milan in the group stage. But Dortmund can play better than Milan against them actually.
Dortmund is far stronger compared with chelsea. Even if chelsea was doing a bit better in the champion league and it's pure caused by luck. I will not underestimate chelsea but chelsea was getting easy club unlike another team which was competing in the difficult club. You can imagine once chelsea would be entering into the hard club and then im sure chelsea will not able to be qualified for the last 16.
The problem is if chelsea keeps showing the bad performance like this and i can't even imagine how bad chelsea in the match against dortmund. Chelsea's performance looks like a small team right now.
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I have to admit that I didn't watch Chelsea's matches in the English league, but I did in the Champions League because they were in the same group as Dinamo.
The first two games they were very bad and last in the group, but then they changed the coach and won all the games in the group until the end.
They were particularly impressive against Milan, one of the leading teams in the Italian league.
Based on that, I think Chelsea have a very real chance against Dortmund and should not be underestimated.

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January 08, 2023, 12:04:42 PM
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Are you using their last few matches to judge their next move? Mbape, Messi and Hakimi were all away for the holidays, though Messi is back and hasn't played yet, as their scheduled next match is next week, probably they should all be back before the round of matches this week.  Bayen did extraordinarily in their group stage and comes first but I believe if the PSG squad is complete, they will do so many things to Bayern Munich because PSG players were one of the best performing players that tush world cup, Messi, Hakimi, Neymar and Mbape are just what I don't think Bayern will send out of the round of 16 so easily.

The absence of Messi and Neymar had an impact on the team in the match with Lens, but now they are back in the game. And there is more than a month before the first match with Bayern, which is a lot of time, and by the way, Bayern have been resting all this time and the Bundesliga matches will begin only in 12 days. We need to look at the state of the teams closer to the first match, now it's too early to assess their shape, especially since Bayern still does not have official games.

Messi, Neymar and Mbappe are now popular faces in the game of football so if they don't participate in the game of football, there is not much excitement in the game of football. So when Messi and Neymar were absent in the Lens match there was little excitement and little impact on the game. But now that they are back in the game so the game will be a different excitement and fun to play again


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January 08, 2023, 12:07:06 PM
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A slight overhaul of Lionel Messi's position will make PSG sharper in building attacks, in my opinion placing Lionel Messi slightly below Neymar and Kylian Mbappe will be more optimal in attacking and controlling the game, because Lionel Messi has an advantage in dribbling before giving measurable passes or before scoring

I get where you're coming from but you are wrong. Messi plays his best football from the right wing. He cuts in from the right wing, dribbles and gives a sublime pass or shoots. If they play with that formation you're suggesting against Bayern they'll lose. They need their wings against Bayern. Neymar running at them from the left ad Messi running at them from the right while Mbappe is doing that up front. Besides PSG have a very good midfield now with the inclusion of Fabian Ruiz. He's very technical just like Verratti.

In a team like PSG, Messi should have no business playing as a supporting striker for two reasons, and this is aside the fact that Messi is at his best in the right wing.
1. If you take Messi behind Neymer and Mbappe that means you're playing with two attackers which will make the wing not as effective as it should. This would give the Full backs of the opposing team more freedom to attack
2. If you still want to play with 3 attackers while Messi plays behind them then your midfielders will be down to 2 which is a disadvantage. 

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January 08, 2023, 12:25:48 PM
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I get where you're coming from but you are wrong. Messi plays his best football from the right wing. He cuts in from the right wing, dribbles and gives a sublime pass or shoots.
You're missing a point that Messi is no longer young. At his old age, he must adapt to change his favorite style and position on field. He adapted and moved to mid of field, a little bit far from wings and front line. This adaptation can help him to save energy and avoid physical fighting with younger players.

Sometimes Messi can still have great dribbles at wing like when he passed through Gvardiol in World Cup 2022 but such moments won't occur too often.

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In a team like PSG, Messi should have no business playing as a supporting striker for two reasons, and this is aside the fact that Messi is at his best in the right wing.
1. If you take Messi behind Neymer and Mbappe that means you're playing with two attackers which will make the wing not as effective as it should. This would give the Full backs of the opposing team more freedom to attack
2. If you still want to play with 3 attackers while Messi plays behind them then your midfielders will be down to 2 which is a disadvantage. 
Messi and Neymar have similar style but Neymar is younger than Messi so he plays more closely to opponent goal and the box. Messi is older so he has to play at deeper area for reasons I explained.

Is it a business of Messi and does he like it? I believe he want to do it because it is better for his career and for PSG too.

Mbappe are speedy and can score lot of goals so let him doing it. Neymar can be a bridge between Messi and Mbappe and he is more ready to fighting with defenders. Messi is another bridge for two players Neymar, Mbappe to PSG midfielders. PSG also have a good midfielder Veratti who can run a lot and can create good connections for their system and players.

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January 08, 2023, 12:32:11 PM
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I get where you're coming from but you are wrong. Messi plays his best football from the right wing. He cuts in from the right wing, dribbles and gives a sublime pass or shoots.
You're missing a point that Messi is no longer young. At his old age, he must adapt to change his favorite style and position on field. He adapted and moved to mid of field, a little bit far from wings and front line. This adaptation can help him to save energy and avoid physical fighting with younger players.

Sometimes Messi can still have great dribbles at wing like when he passed through Gvardiol in World Cup 2022 but such moments won't occur too often.

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In a team like PSG, Messi should have no business playing as a supporting striker for two reasons, and this is aside the fact that Messi is at his best in the right wing.
1. If you take Messi behind Neymer and Mbappe that means you're playing with two attackers which will make the wing not as effective as it should. This would give the Full backs of the opposing team more freedom to attack
2. If you still want to play with 3 attackers while Messi plays behind them then your midfielders will be down to 2 which is a disadvantage. 
Messi and Neymar have similar style but Neymar is younger than Messi so he plays more closely to opponent goal and the box. Messi is older so he has to play at deeper area for reasons I explained.

Is it a business of Messi and does he like it? I believe he want to do it because it is better for his career and for PSG too.

Mbappe are speedy and can score lot of goals so let him doing it. Neymar can be a bridge between Messi and Mbappe and he is more ready to fighting with defenders. Messi is another bridge for two players Neymar, Mbappe to PSG midfielders. PSG also have a good midfielder Veratti who can run a lot and can create good connections for their system and players.
Kylian Mbappé is one of the fastest players. And one of the qualifications behind achieving so much is that he can run fast. He has a great role in PSG.

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January 08, 2023, 12:37:45 PM
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Are you using their last few matches to judge their next move? Mbape, Messi and Hakimi were all away for the holidays, though Messi is back and hasn't played yet, as their scheduled next match is next week, probably they should all be back before the round of matches this week.  Bayen did extraordinarily in their group stage and comes first but I believe if the PSG squad is complete, they will do so many things to Bayern Munich because PSG players were one of the best performing players that tush world cup, Messi, Hakimi, Neymar and Mbape are just what I don't think Bayern will send out of the round of 16 so easily.

The absence of Messi and Neymar had an impact on the team in the match with Lens, but now they are back in the game. And there is more than a month before the first match with Bayern, which is a lot of time, and by the way, Bayern have been resting all this time and the Bundesliga matches will begin only in 12 days. We need to look at the state of the teams closer to the first match, now it's too early to assess their shape, especially since Bayern still does not have official games.

Messi, Neymar and Mbappe are now popular faces in the game of football so if they don't participate in the game of football, there is not much excitement in the game of football. So when Messi and Neymar were absent in the Lens match there was little excitement and little impact on the game. But now that they are back in the game so the game will be a different excitement and fun to play again
Messi-Neymar Mbappe is one of the best attacking players at the moment. And all three of them are in the attack of PSG club. However, Messi and Neymar have a retention understanding, and if PSG let Neymar go, Messi's game may have minor problems.

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January 08, 2023, 12:43:10 PM
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I wouldn't say that Dortmund are no match for Chelsea now. Because we aren't watching the same old Chelsea anymore. Of course they have been better in the Champions League comparing to the English Premier League. But still they will need to make a big effort to be able to eliminate Dortmund. Despite Chelsea's being the favourite I still don't feel like Dortmund will give up so easily.

I know what Chelsea did to Milan in the group stage. But Dortmund can play better than Milan against them actually.
Dortmund is far stronger compared with chelsea. Even if chelsea was doing a bit better in the champion league and it's pure caused by luck. I will not underestimate chelsea but chelsea was getting easy club unlike another team which was competing in the difficult club. You can imagine once chelsea would be entering into the hard club and then im sure chelsea will not able to be qualified for the last 16.
The problem is if chelsea keeps showing the bad performance like this and i can't even imagine how bad chelsea in the match against dortmund. Chelsea's performance looks like a small team right now.
Hundreds millions wasted for nothing now

I have to admit that I didn't watch Chelsea's matches in the English league, but I did in the Champions League because they were in the same group as Dinamo.
The first two games they were very bad and last in the group, but then they changed the coach and won all the games in the group until the end.
They were particularly impressive against Milan, one of the leading teams in the Italian league.
Based on that, I think Chelsea have a very real chance against Dortmund and should not be underestimated.
Chelsea are playing great football at the moment. Even though they were defeated by one of the best teams Manchester City, they put up a great performance in that day's match. They lost that match due to their few mistakes, hope they will play well in the next matches and be able to secure victory.

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January 08, 2023, 01:02:11 PM
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~snip~

The absence of Messi and Neymar had an impact on the team in the match with Lens, but now they are back in the game. And there is more than a month before the first match with Bayern, which is a lot of time, and by the way, Bayern have been resting all this time and the Bundesliga matches will begin only in 12 days. We need to look at the state of the teams closer to the first match, now it's too early to assess their shape, especially since Bayern still does not have official games.


The German League is scheduled later than the other Europa Leagues. So far, Bayern are still busy looking for candidates for their main goalkeeper and I haven't received accurate information regarding Sadio Mane's injury. and I agree with you, we need to see Bayern's performance when the Budesliga is rolled out again.
Bayern, still haven't shown the team's performance and readiness after the post-world cup. there is still plenty of time for Bayern to prepare their troops, so they will focus more on the domestic league first before preparing their troops for the round of 16 match later at home to PSG.

PSG's defeat, in the domestic league over Lens, must be Galtier's concern. Galtier knows very well that how his team is weak when their two stars are absent from the field, especially he has to fix the defense line of his team. The reason is, Bayern is a team that is very productive when it comes to scoring goals. Nagelsmann's troop squad doesn't always rely solely on center forward players. also, Munich has a very solid teamwork.
so, this match is not easy for the two teams who will meet in the round of 16 later.

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January 08, 2023, 02:12:47 PM
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Chelsea's performance in the EPL is indeed so bad that it's impossible for people to think Chelsea can win the UCL this season even against Dortmund, I think it will be difficult for Chelsea to overcome that to win, I think Chelsea need new players to restore faith in their club

I used to think that Chelsea looked so bad mainly because the level of competition in the Premier League is outrageous, but now I also doubt that Chelsea is capable of anything. Of course, I will not say that they are clearly weaker than Dortmund (it is still unknown what state this team is in after the break), but now I am sure that Chelsea are not stronger.

Well, we must also take something into account, if we start to think that Chelsa is bad, it is not a good perception, l, the fact that the results are not going well, we cannot say that a team is bad, they are making contracts, some of them seem very strange, but how can we reveal the plans of a technical director? If the team gives you the confidence to make this type of transfer, then I think the best thing is to have some patience, I know that Chelsea fans may feel somewhat overwhelmed by everything their team has been going through, but we only know what they want As far as we know, we don't really know anything or the origin of things.

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Chelsea could forget about Fernandez with Romeo Lavia swoop



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With the deal going astray, Blues manager Graham Potter might be inclined to turn his head and reassess previous targets, with Southampton‘s Romeo Lavia one such prospect who could emerge from the situation in Chelsea colours.

Transfer guru Fabrizio Romano confirmed in September that the Blues had attempted to bring the Belgian starlet to Stamford Bridge in the summer by offering £50m, despite the Saints having signed him from Manchester City just a couple of months prior.

Any audacious efforts to ensnare their target were indeed rebuffed by the south coast club, but Chelsea’s intrigue in the player’s services has stretched into the winter months, and a move might just be forthcoming following the recent developments in the Fernandez transfer saga.

Source: https://www.footballfancast.com/chelsea-fc-news/chelsea-southampton-romeo-lavia-transfer-enzo-fernandez-premier-league

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