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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
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January 12, 2023, 08:27:46 AM
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Football is one of the most beautiful things in the world, when everyone thought that the teams that won or time would always maintain their hegemony, that is no longer the case, on the other hand, PSG and City are one of the most famous teams that they currently have, that is why the teams now also seek to have the most famous players, in the case of PSG they have 3 great stars, and City have one of the most emblematic players like Haaland, that is something that any team would like to have, that's why now the PL is so famous, they have very good players, on the other hand in this new transfer window they have a good opportunity to acquire good chips.

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Manchester City boss Pep Guardiola has recalled his early days at Barcelona to illustrate the issues facing Graham Potter at Chelsea.

Chelsea lost to Guardiola’s City for the second time in less than seven days at the weekend as they clinched a Premier League and FA Cup double over Potter’s side.

Potter is under growing pressure at Stamford Bridge, with just eight wins from 18 games, since replacing Thomas Tuchel in September.

However, Guardiola issued a word of caution to Blues owner Todd Boehly over a potential departure for Potter, based on his experiences at Barcelona in 2008.

Source: https://www.football-espana.net/2023/01/09/pep-guardiola-lionel-messi-point-graham-potter

I’d also advice that Chelsea's board should give Graham Potter more time to try to solve the issues resulting to poor performances and poor results in the team. Guardiola is right, we can also sight example from Mikel Arteta, things weren't so smooth at the beginning but with time and patience he was able to bring the team to it's current level and it took 3 seasons to get to this stage and he is still working so this thing goes through phases and it just required a little patience and trust in the manager.
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January 12, 2023, 10:43:01 AM
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After winning the world cup trophy with the Argentina national team, Messi next target is to win the Champions League trophy with PSG. PSG has a good squad to win this championship. The front line they currently have can be a threat to Bayern Munich.
Bringing home the Champions League trophy to France has been PSG dream for a long time. After forming a team with quality players, PSG opportunities are very open. Bayern Munich must be careful with the squad that PSG currently has, especially since the attack line filled with Messi, Mbappe and Neymar is very dangerous when in the opponent's defense area.
Do you expect PSG to crack that egg this season? I seem to feel that vibe from you, but maybe it's just my feeling.
PSG is a team formed with strong financial strength, but as far as we can see from their actions in the Champions League, they always fail. I just need to have my doubts about them, not for red flags but I guess you shouldn't expect much from them.

There is a possibility of success this season, but they have to beat Bayern Munich first. Certainly not an easy task, but if PSG succeed then the move to the next round can be expected. At least I can expect them to be in the semi-finals this season instead of expecting them in the final, it's still tough.

Huge money has really been invested in the PSG team in the last few years, but regardless, PSG is still far from winning the Champions League.
There are a lot of rumors that the relations in the team are not good and that there are big conflicts between the players, especially between Mbappe and Neymar over who will be the main star in the team.
It is difficult to know how true all this is, but the fact is that in every season something is missing for PSG to go all the way and win the Champions League.
Many things have to come together to win the Champions League, including team unity, physical strength, a high level of play and mental readiness when key matches are played.
Bayern will be a real test for the PSG team this season.

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January 12, 2023, 11:26:07 AM
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Tottenham have been experiencing some problems. There is a significant drop in their performance level and it reflected on their Premier League matches as well. The Crystal Palace win might be a good morale but they have another tough match against Arsenal this time. Besides their schedule until their Champions League match is very tight and difficult. If they don't finish these matches with positive results in general then it might affect their motivation in the Champions League as well.

Because they haven't been like Liverpool. I mean Tottenham haven't been much different in the EPL and CL in terms of effort.

In the second half of the season, Tottenham had an unlucky start for Conte's squad. fortunately, they won the game over Crystal Palace with a landslide score. even so, according to my observations the Spurs experienced a decline in performance. also, the Spurs have tough games in the week ahead. Apart from the match against Arsenal, Spurs also have their next match away at Manchester City headquarters.

if they lose these two matches, automatically the ranking they are currently in can be taken by the team below them. at least, Conte has to do something to restore the team's confidence and win the next matches. in particular, the round of 16 match that will travel to Milan headquarters. Conte doesn't have much time to improve his troops, even before focusing on the Champions League later. Antonio's troop squad must first focus on crucial matches, in the Premier League. I even doubt if Antonio Conte's squad is capable of overthrowing Milan, either away or at home.

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January 12, 2023, 12:45:53 PM
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I’d also advice that Chelsea's board should give Graham Potter more time to try to solve the issues resulting to poor performances and poor results in the team. Guardiola is right, we can also sight example from Mikel Arteta, things weren't so smooth at the beginning but with time and patience he was able to bring the team to it's current level and it took 3 seasons to get to this stage and he is still working so this thing goes through phases and it just required a little patience and trust in the manager.
This is how Arteta's example shows what result trust can bring, when a coach knows that he is trusted, when he knows that he has time to realize his vision, this should bring results. But when I watch how often in Chelsea change coaches, how little time they get, it only says that Potter may lose his place in the team very soon.

The same problem applies to PSG, the coaches simply do not have time to build a team, they have too many resources and very little time, but this will never be enough to win the Champions League. Big victories require patience, not everything can be bought with money.
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January 12, 2023, 12:54:56 PM
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They are surely getting to the finals this season I have predicted along time coming that Manchester City and Pep Guardiola will get to the finals.
Since becoming a Manchester City coach, Pep Guardiola has never presented the Champions League trophy to the Etihad stadium. If you look at the depth of the players now it seems that it will be a strong candidate for the championship this season. Now Man City has one of the best strikers in the world, Erling Halaand, in whose regular league he (Halaand) almost always scores goals in every game, so that will be a successor for Man City in going through the UCL round this season.
That's why pep was aiming for the UCL as the main target for city. City has been winning EPL so many times under him but city never won UCL. that proves that if there's a thing that has not yet achieved by chelsea.
City was never achieved the world club trophy too. Pep said that he wanna try to bring city to be a winner of UCL. This is the most difficult task to be achieved by pep.
As far as i know that even with the strong squad and it would not even able to take UCL. Remember when chelsea was beating city at the final of UCL. I think that's really disappointed for the all players of manchester city.
Even in Barcelona, Pep Guardiola was able to present the Champions League trophy twice. If you look into the squad that belongs to Manchester City, it is very strong and they should have won the Champions League this season. But again, man city always has bad luck when they meet opponents who are slightly above them, like Real Madrid always brings nightmares to man city. During the 20/21 UCL final, Man City vs Chelsea, I still remember that match very well and at that time I thought Man City could become champions, but in reality Chelsea managed to beat Man City with a narrow score of 0-1 while burying Pep Guardiola's great hopes at that time.

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January 12, 2023, 01:09:22 PM
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Huge money has really been invested in the PSG team in the last few years, but regardless, PSG is still far from winning the Champions League.
There are a lot of rumors that the relations in the team are not good and that there are big conflicts between the players, especially between Mbappe and Neymar over who will be the main star in the team.
It is difficult to know how true all this is, but the fact is that in every season something is missing for PSG to go all the way and win the Champions League.
Many things have to come together to win the Champions League, including team unity, physical strength, a high level of play and mental readiness when key matches are played.
Bayern will be a real test for the PSG team this season.

Spending hugely but year to year, season to season, same outcomes is all they get. They have a good squad with winning mentality as it stands within the squad, quality players but I don't know how technically great the manger would be at most against a big side kike Bayern Munich.
All those issues related to ball passing and disagreement when it comes to penalty duties should have been settled already, Neymar has been eager to score as much goals this season so he reduced passing all of those chances leading to goal for Mbappe. Like i said they have Ramos, Messi and Neymar who have won the Champions League already they can put that winner mindset in other players.

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January 12, 2023, 01:12:03 PM
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I’d also advice that Chelsea's board should give Graham Potter more time to try to solve the issues resulting to poor performances and poor results in the team. Guardiola is right, we can also sight example from Mikel Arteta, things weren't so smooth at the beginning but with time and patience he was able to bring the team to it's current level and it took 3 seasons to get to this stage and he is still working so this thing goes through phases and it just required a little patience and trust in the manager.
This is how Arteta's example shows what result trust can bring, when a coach knows that he is trusted, when he knows that he has time to realize his vision, this should bring results. But when I watch how often in Chelsea change coaches, how little time they get, it only says that Potter may lose his place in the team very soon.

The same problem applies to PSG, the coaches simply do not have time to build a team, they have too many resources and very little time, but this will never be enough to win the Champions League. Big victories require patience, not everything can be bought with money.
There is no coach who doesn't want to see the team he handles play well, it's just that that desire doesn't always go smoothly with reality. Graham Potter must have racked his brains to get Chelsea's game back to its best. The question is how much time will it take him to do that. This is because not all teams will have the patience to wait for their team to return as expected. Threatened, that's what I have in mind regarding the position of Graham Potter.

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January 12, 2023, 02:03:55 PM
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I’d also advice that Chelsea's board should give Graham Potter more time to try to solve the issues resulting to poor performances and poor results in the team. Guardiola is right, we can also sight example from Mikel Arteta, things weren't so smooth at the beginning but with time and patience he was able to bring the team to it's current level and it took 3 seasons to get to this stage and he is still working so this thing goes through phases and it just required a little patience and trust in the manager.
This is how Arteta's example shows what result trust can bring, when a coach knows that he is trusted, when he knows that he has time to realize his vision, this should bring results. But when I watch how often in Chelsea change coaches, and how little time they get, it only says that Potter may lose his place in the team very soon.

The same problem applies to PSG, the coaches simply do not have time to build a team, they have too many resources and very little time, but this will never be enough to win the Champions League. Big victories require patience, not everything can be bought with money.
No coach doesn't want to see the team he handles play well, it's just that that desire doesn't always go smoothly with reality. Graham Potter must have racked his brains to get Chelsea's game back to its best. The question is how much time will it take him to do that. This is because not all teams will have the patience to wait for their team to return as expected. Threatened, that's what I have in mind regarding the position of Graham Potter.
Though it's long enough, we shouldn't conclude already that he is incapable. It didn't take long for the players to go on injury after returning from the Qatar world cup. Let's just assume the present poor performances to be a result of injury. Bringing in a new coach will require the club to spend so much because they will have to pay Porter off which will be a huge sum of money since it's a terminated contract, and money also will be needed to bring in a new coach which in a long run will need time to understand the club and its players.

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January 12, 2023, 02:06:49 PM
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It is difficult to know how true all this is, but the fact is that in every season something is missing for PSG to go all the way and win the Champions League.
Many things have to come together to win the Champions League, including team unity, physical strength, a high level of play and mental readiness when key matches are played.
Bayern will be a real test for the PSG team this season.
PSG spent a lot and in some seasons, they came too close to Champions League trophy. If they can continue to have like semi final and final matches, they will take a trophy in future.

Bayern is a really big name in Europe and Champions League so clearly it is a big test for PSG. This big test comes too early in this season for PSG but it's not a matter, they must win big clubs to get a trophy.

Spending hugely but year to year, season to season, same outcomes is all they get.
Did we say a same about Chelsea before they won their first Champions League? PSG will get it some day but it is not easy.

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They have a good squad with winning mentality as it stands within the squad, quality players but I don't know how technically great the manger would be at most against a big side kike Bayern Munich.
All those issues related to ball passing and disagreement when it comes to penalty duties should have been settled already, Neymar has been eager to score as much goals this season so he reduced passing all of those chances leading to goal for Mbappe. Like i said they have Ramos, Messi and Neymar who have won the Champions League already they can put that winner mindset in other players.
PSG have problems with conflicts amongst their star players that only reduce their strength. About mentality, I agree on this because PSG did played and won great but not sure how they did wasted advantages just in a very short time in a second-leg matches. Nothing to explain it better than weak mentality and lack of self-confidence.

Ramos can bring high confidence for PSG defense with his strong mentality and ability to give other defenders in big matches. However, he is old and it can limit his contribution for PSG.

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January 12, 2023, 03:08:43 PM
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There is no coach who doesn't want to see the team he handles play well, it's just that that desire doesn't always go smoothly with reality. Graham Potter must have racked his brains to get Chelsea's game back to its best. The question is how much time will it take him to do that. This is because not all teams will have the patience to wait for their team to return as expected. Threatened, that's what I have in mind regarding the position of Graham Potter.
At the moment I am not thinking about the threat of Graham Potter's position in the Chelsea team for this season, because everyone will see how Chelsea will play in the round of 16 against the German team, namely Borussia Dortmund. In my opinion this is a very commensurate opponent with Chelsea in the Champions League in the round of 16 although I don't imagine a win for Chelsea after seeing its still very poor performance in the Premier League this season.

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January 12, 2023, 03:13:21 PM
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Even in Barcelona, Pep Guardiola was able to present the Champions League trophy twice. If you look into the squad that belongs to Manchester City, it is very strong and they should have won the Champions League this season. But again, man city always has bad luck when they meet opponents who are slightly above them, like Real Madrid always brings nightmares to man city. During the 20/21 UCL final, Man City vs Chelsea, I still remember that match very well and at that time I thought Man City could become champions, but in reality Chelsea managed to beat Man City with a narrow score of 0-1 while burying Pep Guardiola's great hopes at that time.
Pep Guardiola have to show his capacity about best manager for giving Manchester City with UEFA Champion League tittle, he was success get twice Champion League trophy with Barcelona but almost ten years during his career with Bayern Munich and Manchester City totally failed although support with much money active in window transfer.

Can't count with how much money spent by Pep Guardiola with Manchester City last several years, but great achievement lead to final stage at last two season but defeated by Chelsea at final. I don't expected with Pep Guardiola have good memorize in Champion League and Manchester City still meme team without any Champion League tittle in their cupboard collection.

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January 12, 2023, 03:53:13 PM
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There is no coach who doesn't want to see the team he handles play well, it's just that that desire doesn't always go smoothly with reality. Graham Potter must have racked his brains to get Chelsea's game back to its best. The question is how much time will it take him to do that. This is because not all teams will have the patience to wait for their team to return as expected. Threatened, that's what I have in mind regarding the position of Graham Potter.
At the moment I am not thinking about the threat of Graham Potter's position in the Chelsea team for this season, because everyone will see how Chelsea will play in the round of 16 against the German team, namely Borussia Dortmund. In my opinion this is a very commensurate opponent with Chelsea in the Champions League in the round of 16 although I don't imagine a win for Chelsea after seeing its still very poor performance in the Premier League this season.
I think that the match against dortmund will become the match that will determine his future. Chelsea was only getting 1 win from 7 matches which can be considered as the worst performance from the club. Dortmund will become the final exam for potter. I saw that if there are so many new coaches that being linked with chelsea. Managing the club that owned by aggresive owner like chelsea was so diffiuclt. This gonna be hardest time for chelsea.
I see that potter was also under pressure caused by he has target to win against dortmund in UCL

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January 12, 2023, 04:18:41 PM
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At the moment I am not thinking about the threat of Graham Potter's position in the Chelsea team for this season, because everyone will see how Chelsea will play in the round of 16 against the German team, namely Borussia Dortmund. In my opinion this is a very commensurate opponent with Chelsea in the Champions League in the round of 16 although I don't imagine a win for Chelsea after seeing its still very poor performance in the Premier League this season.
If you look at the results of the matches played by Chelsea in the Premier League and Borussia Dortmund in the Bundesliga, the two teams are currently in an unstable form, because they are experiencing a decline and are unable to keep up with the match. If you look at the current standings in their respective leagues, it is likely that next season they will have difficulty qualifying for the Champions League, Borussia Dortmund are in the top six of the table and Chelsea are in 10th place, which means that both teams are in an unstable position and little worse than the previous season.

But it seems that Borussia Dortmund is slightly better than Chelsea, even though the Champions League cannot be seen only from the performance of their respective leagues. It is still quite difficult to predict who will win, before seeing the first match which will take place at the Signal Iduna Park Stadium in Germany.

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January 12, 2023, 04:33:19 PM
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Pep and his men didn't get difficult fixtures and with their good form this season they are expected to reach the finals because either of psg and Bayern will drop on the way and either of Liverpool or Madrid will also drop on the way. Before you will understand big teams will all be eliminated and manchester city will be at the finals

I wouldn't underrate any team in the Champions league. There is still lots of action, Manchester City might be at top form now and winning games in the English Premier league but when it comes to the Champions league it a whole different case. Every team gives their best and surprisingly Manchester City could be knocked out of the race as the competition goes into the finals.

After winning the world cup trophy with the Argentina national team, Messi next target is to win the Champions League trophy with PSG. PSG has a good squad to win this championship. The front line they currently have can be a threat to Bayern Munich.
Bringing home the Champions League trophy to France has been PSG dream for a long time. After forming a team with quality players, PSG opportunities are very open. Bayern Munich must be careful with the squad that PSG currently has, especially since the attack line filled with Messi, Mbappe and Neymar is very dangerous when in the opponent's defense area.

It will be a big achievement if Messi can win the champions league with PSG, Messi fans have high expectations and praying that their GOAT wins the Champions League too. That will be Messi making another history at this stage of his career, if this happens he will go down in the history of the club as one of the greatest.
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January 12, 2023, 04:41:13 PM
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They are surely getting to the finals this season I have predicted along time coming that Manchester City and Pep Guardiola will get to the finals.
Another two clubs I'm keen to see how they go through will be both Bayern Munich and Paris Saint Germany as it will be one of the best top game to view. My opinions are for me alone and I am really seeing Bayern Munich going back home all because they cannot defeat Paris Saint Germany.
Without belittling Bayern Munich, I also agree that PSG is expected to make it to the quarter-finals this season. I didn't expect Bayern Munich to be as strong in the group stages, but I expected it to change a lot in the round of 16 especially because PSG are the opponents. It's up to others how to expect Bayern Munich to beat PSG, but I'd rather expect Paris to go to the quarter-final.

I consider the current PSG trio to be one of the most dangerous forward trio. Messi, Neymar and Mbappe are in good form so far despite not having played together in a post-World Cup match. But anything can happen, but PSG must deserve to be in a good place this season.
As much as I also like PSG to qualify from this pair, I also don't want to underrate any team because both teams have the quality and ability to knock the other out of the tournament. Bayern Munich also have a good record in the Champions league this season and will be looking to continue their fine form until the end. There is none amongst the two teams who does not believe in themselves and think they will advance through to the next round, it will be a tough one and we shall see who get the ticket.
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January 12, 2023, 04:42:20 PM
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At the moment I am not thinking about the threat of Graham Potter's position in the Chelsea team for this season, because everyone will see how Chelsea will play in the round of 16 against the German team, namely Borussia Dortmund. In my opinion this is a very commensurate opponent with Chelsea in the Champions League in the round of 16 although I don't imagine a win for Chelsea after seeing its still very poor performance in the Premier League this season.
The form of the two teams so far has been no different in their respective leagues, but in my opinion Dortmund seem to have the upper hand over Chelsea without Tuchel. I only have doubts about Potter, he doesn't have enough experience to take his team higher in the Champions League and I don't even know what he thinks about the match against Dortmund. The round of 16 is more difficult, but both teams have the same chance to win and qualify for the quarter-finals.

Dortmund vs Chelsea match is still far away, and I'm interested to see how Chelsea finish against Fulham today at Premier League. Chelsea have only managed to pick up 4 points from their last 5 matches, so it will be interesting to see if their form will improve after losing to Manchester City.

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It has been a while since Arsenal joined the Champions League the last time. It seems like they are finally going to go back there by next season.

However the current quality of squad wouldn't be enough for having a good success I think. They have done really great so far in the Premier League and Europa League both. But the Champions League is a much more different arena. You need to prepare your squad as good as possible and you will need some extra nice strategies against tough competitors also. Arteta is doing a great job with management so I don't doubt him about the Champions League also. But they had better strengthen the squad quality to be well-prepared for tough teams.

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January 12, 2023, 04:47:09 PM
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If you look at the results of the matches played by Chelsea in the Premier League and Borussia Dortmund in the Bundesliga, the two teams are currently in an unstable form, because they are experiencing a decline and are unable to keep up with the match. If you look at the current standings in their respective leagues, it is likely that next season they will have difficulty qualifying for the Champions League, Borussia Dortmund are in the top six of the table and Chelsea are in 10th place, which means that both teams are in an unstable position and little worse than the previous season.
Borussia Dortmund in the Bundesliga still have hopes of still qualifying for next season in comparison to Chelsea it will be difficult to get a place in position 4 this is far from a possibility unless Graham Potter makes significant changes in the league then it is still a possibility but judging from the matches yet stable then it will still be tough as well.
This is indistinguishable in my opinion the Premier League is tougher than the Bundesliga.

But it seems that Borussia Dortmund is slightly better than Chelsea, even though the Champions League cannot be seen only from the performance of their respective leagues. It is still quite difficult to predict who will win, before seeing the first match which will take place at the Signal Iduna Park Stadium in Germany.
Playing in the Champions League is also always different in appearance maybe also for Chelsea but we don't know what will happen later with Borussia Dortmund who deserves to win, but right now it's still difficult to predict even though there is still a chance to qualify and you can say it's a balanced team if you look at the current performance in each of them.

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January 12, 2023, 04:55:01 PM
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It has been a while since Arsenal joined the Champions League the last time. It seems like they are finally going to go back there by next season.

However the current quality of squad wouldn't be enough for having a good success I think. They have done really great so far in the Premier League and Europa League both. But the Champions League is a much more different arena. You need to prepare your squad as good as possible and you will need some extra nice strategies against tough competitors also. Arteta is doing a great job with management so I don't doubt him about the Champions League also. But they had better strengthen the squad quality to be well-prepared for tough teams.

Basically when a team plays in the Champions League it doesn't mean they also have to get a title, so whatever their quality will be, it will be good if they play in the Champions League. Also, Arteta seems to prioritize young players which, at first was also doubted but who would have thought Arsenal with their young players could get better in the Premiere League this season and also in the European League.
So, I think Arsenal will still be great if next season they play in the Champions League, with the squad as it is or it's not clear Arsenal have got better with Arteta and I don't think there is any problem for them if they manage to come back playing in the Champions League next season.

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January 12, 2023, 05:04:20 PM
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Basically when a team plays in the Champions League it doesn't mean they also have to get a title, so whatever their quality will be, it will be good if they play in the Champions League. Also, Arteta seems to prioritize young players which, at first was also doubted but who would have thought Arsenal with their young players could get better in the Premiere League this season and also in the European League.
Titles are the perfect target for a team at the end of a competition, and I think playing well and getting a win is the main target instead of thinking about titles. Titles are important, but winning as many games as possible is even more important.

So, I think Arsenal will still be great if next season they play in the Champions League, with the squad as it is or it's not clear Arsenal have got better with Arteta and I don't think there is any problem for them if they manage to come back playing in the Champions League next season.
Arsenal have a chance to qualify for the Champions League next season, but now they just need to watch other teams play.  Grin

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