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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
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January 27, 2023, 08:23:29 AM
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The chances of Napoli getting into the quarter-finals are estimated by the bookmakers as 1.46. To be honest, I'm quite surprised by this estimate, because from the outside it seems that it should be in the region of 1.2-1.25. Eintracht is not a bad club but compared to the phenomenal season that we see from Napoli, they look like obvious outsiders.
After the World Cup break, PSG, Bayern Munich and Real Madrid's performances have slightly deteriorated, while Napoli's performance has been more stable. They have won the last three matches. Frankfurt's performance, on the other hand, has been erratic. They are not a weak team. But they are not able to play well consistently. Frankfurt's chances of winning against Napoli seem slim to me. But I wouldn't be surprised if Frankfurt wins. Be prepared to see any result in the Champions League. And favorites don't always win. But I expect Napoli to win.
The fact that the favorites do not always win is understandable, the only question is the odds. It's one thing when a favorite stumbles every 10 games and the odds of it winning are 1.1, and another thing when 1.46, as in this case. Given that this will not be one game, but two, the randomness factor is reduced and it is completely incomprehensible to me why Napoli is so underestimated.

Napoli won 5-1 against one of the strongest teams in Serie A, Juventus. And in the next match, they will play against Roma. I would say if a Napoli team can dominate and win against Roma then I think Napoli will continue this streak in the Champions League as well. A Napoli team should not be underestimated this season. They have been performing well since the beginning of the season. After that, Napoli will play against Frankfurt in about 4 weeks. Napoli is expected to win if players do not suffer major injuries.
Napoli are currently having a great performance. All the pillars of the team are playing brilliantly and Napoli are really going for the win. But the match against Roma I think will be very strong. Because Paulo Dybala is in one of the best forms in the Roma team.

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January 27, 2023, 08:26:22 AM
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When Chelsea sacked Thomas Tuchel, actually in the hands of Thomas Tuchel everything looked fine. Yes, they did get unsatisfactory results, but that was still within reasonable limits when the season had just started. But the management took an ambitious step by immediately sacking him, and now we see the results, they are worse off than the previous coach. I don't know what's wrong with them at the moment, so it's very difficult to show progress.

What's wrong is injuries, we had about 10+ players that were injuried during the period we weren't getting results and these were players that were in our starting eleven. This is the reason the management panicked on this transfer window to bring on players that can be used in place of this injured players and when this players return form injuries then there'll be a competition on each position so the players can up their games and play to be assured of a playtime at the club.

Thomas Tuchel wasn't any better, that guy took us to 5 finals and we lost two that was better than the other two we won which was the Super cup and club world cup. We lost the FA cup to Leicester and EFL to Liverpool that were very winnable game and this was during the time Chelsea were on their greatest form. Thomas Tuchel is a very stubborn coach that doesn't change his tactic when it isn't going his way. He doesn't play youthful players and didn't have control over the dressing room.

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January 27, 2023, 08:30:42 AM
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Let me start by saying that the problem of Chelsea is not only the midfielders and defenders but rather the whole problem of the team lies in the hands of the management of the team, Thomas Tuchel was getting good result with same players before he was sack but ever since the arrival of Potter everything has suddenly come backward in Chelsea yet Potter has not been sacked, I think the players are not happy with the current coach and not playing well is the only way to send a message to the management and until they do the right things,  they can't get a positive result even with the big names they are bringing into the team.
I am not so sure that fans understand how common this can be, a great deal of what a coach does has nothing to do with telling their players how to play, as at such a high level there is not much the coach can teach them or tell them which they have not heard already, so most of the work a coach has to do comes down to the personal relationship they can develop with their players, and if it is not good then players can and will boycott them.
I think the Chelsea team has a lot of work to do. Chelsea have lost the rhythm of the team, there are many problems of understanding between the players. The coach of the team needs to develop some new strategies.

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January 27, 2023, 09:42:34 AM
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Let me start by saying that the problem of Chelsea is not only the midfielders and defenders but rather the whole problem of the team lies in the hands of the management of the team, Thomas Tuchel was getting good result with same players before he was sack but ever since the arrival of Potter everything has suddenly come backward in Chelsea yet Potter has not been sacked, I think the players are not happy with the current coach and not playing well is the only way to send a message to the management and until they do the right things,  they can't get a positive result even with the big names they are bringing into the team.
I am not so sure that fans understand how common this can be, a great deal of what a coach does has nothing to do with telling their players how to play, as at such a high level there is not much the coach can teach them or tell them which they have not heard already, so most of the work a coach has to do comes down to the personal relationship they can develop with their players, and if it is not good then players can and will boycott them.

I'm not a Chelsea fan but from my point of view. The problems that occur within Chelsea's body are not that simple. not only midfielders and defense. but as a whole the team, especially the front line which is not too reliable. in fact, Potter tried to make the most of his players, but Chelsea had a lot of problems. unmitigated, 9 core players of whom had to be absent due to injury. not an easy job for Potter, or for Zidan's caliber if he is in charge of Chelsea in the current situation.

Todd, trying to bring in newcomers to get around the situation that is happening within Chelsea. but what Chelsea really needs is not just new ammunition, but the chemistry and mentality that they have to build regardless of how many of their players are injured.

I see Potter has put a lot of effort in, including rotating his players plus tweaking the ideal formation for his team. however, again as I said. it's not easy, IMO maybe Chelsea will reform into a formidable team again in the next season.

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January 27, 2023, 12:00:13 PM
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Chelsea and Liverpool seem to be the center of attention now in the Champions League, yes, this is inseparable from the poor performances they have shown in the domestic league. The truth is they are a big team who have always been able to compete for the Champions League championship, but now they have a lot of doubts about what they are doing with their game not improving. This is a real impact for them, especially in the Champions League, there are many teams that have great strength to compete and become champions here.

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January 27, 2023, 12:03:37 PM
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Let me start by saying that the problem of Chelsea is not only the midfielders and defenders but rather the whole problem of the team lies in the hands of the management of the team, Thomas Tuchel was getting good result with same players before he was sack but ever since the arrival of Potter everything has suddenly come backward in Chelsea yet Potter has not been sacked, I think the players are not happy with the current coach and not playing well is the only way to send a message to the management and until they do the right things,  they can't get a positive result even with the big names they are bringing into the team.
I am not so sure that fans understand how common this can be, a great deal of what a coach does has nothing to do with telling their players how to play, as at such a high level there is not much the coach can teach them or tell them which they have not heard already, so most of the work a coach has to do comes down to the personal relationship they can develop with their players, and if it is not good then players can and will boycott them.
I think the Chelsea team has a lot of work to do. Chelsea have lost the rhythm of the team, there are many problems of understanding between the players. The coach of the team needs to develop some new strategies.
that's the plan to recover the performance from chelsea. IMO, the club was losing its chemistry. Potter tried so hard to bring the chemistry back again but some players were not capable enough to make it happen. that's why todd has taken the decision to replace some players that useless for the club. Potter tried to solve the problems that happened with chelsea. I think that if you are aware if it's not only potter but todd was also intervening with the team with his decision too.
Potter has been trying some strategies to make chelsea go up again but it's not yet worked. that may take more time for potter to make it happen with the help by new players.

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January 27, 2023, 12:12:08 PM
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Chelsea and Liverpool seem to be the center of attention now in the Champions League, yes, this is inseparable from the poor performances they have shown in the domestic league. The truth is they are a big team who have always been able to compete for the Champions League championship, but now they have a lot of doubts about what they are doing with their game not improving. This is a real impact for them, especially in the Champions League, there are many teams that have great strength to compete and become champions here.
Many people predict that they will be eliminated more easily in the Champions League this season after seeing the performances they have shown in their domestic league this season. Moreover, Liverpool immediately met a very tough opponent in the last 16 of the Champions League where this had to force Liverpool to be able to win at home before going to cage Real Madrid. But considering Liverpool's condition, which is currently not getting better, it seems that it will be very difficult for Liverpool to win even if they are playing at home.
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January 27, 2023, 12:27:04 PM
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The fact that the favorites do not always win is understandable, the only question is the odds. It's one thing when a favorite stumbles every 10 games and the odds of it winning are 1.1, and another thing when 1.46, as in this case. Given that this will not be one game, but two, the randomness factor is reduced and it is completely incomprehensible to me why Napoli is so underestimated.

Napoli won 5-1 against one of the strongest teams in Serie A, Juventus. And in the next match, they will play against Roma. I would say if a Napoli team can dominate and win against Roma then I think Napoli will continue this streak in the Champions League as well. A Napoli team should not be underestimated this season. They have been performing well since the beginning of the season. After that, Napoli will play against Frankfurt in about 4 weeks. Napoli is expected to win if players do not suffer major injuries.

Apart from the anomalous game with Udinese (0-4), Roma did not seem to have lost a single game this season with a goal difference of more than one. I think we won't see a big score in this game either, even if Napoli dominates. And to be honest, even if Roma can endure and they are lucky to win 1-0, Napoli will still be the clear favorites in the game with Frankfurt.

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January 27, 2023, 12:30:02 PM
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The truth is the management has lot to do to see Chelsea up else they will continue with this staggering form and situation. Thomas Tuchel has been sacked new players have been recruiting into Chelsea to improve them but yet they seem no to be headed to the right direction, half way of the season and they look short and not sure of playing European games next season.
Toddy Boehly should sack the present the backing is enough the results are not getting positive ans any better, they still maintain ten position till date.
Management's one big mistake having negative impact on all unit and now things are now under control with Graham Potter is trying to have better results, but it's not working on short run because now if he wants to have better results then surely he needs good players and better strategy which needs time like we have in Arsenal case or if they want quick results like Manchester United they have to be aggressive in their approach and just bring their required players with exit of many players which are not having any contribution in near future.

But I have feeling Graham Potter is not having mind like this for doing all things aggressively he will take time, and then we will be able to have better results even we can lose few things in this season or have no chance for the next season's Champions League spot as well because this all is hanging around and time is running out quickly.

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January 27, 2023, 12:33:29 PM
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Chelsea and Liverpool seem to be the center of attention now in the Champions League, yes, this is inseparable from the poor performances they have shown in the domestic league. The truth is they are a big team who have always been able to compete for the Champions League championship, but now they have a lot of doubts about what they are doing with their game not improving. This is a real impact for them, especially in the Champions League, there are many teams that have great strength to compete and become champions here.
maybe one of the problems is the storm of injuries to their players so that they have to arrange a lot of strategies to deal with each of their opponents, even though their ending looks bad but slowly over time they will quickly recover and get better, there is still time before the Champions league really started and they have to clean up when it starts

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January 27, 2023, 01:04:44 PM
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I am not so sure that fans understand how common this can be, a great deal of what a coach does has nothing to do with telling their players how to play, as at such a high level there is not much the coach can teach them or tell them which they have not heard already, so most of the work a coach has to do comes down to the personal relationship they can develop with their players, and if it is not good then players can and will boycott them.
I think the Chelsea team has a lot of work to do. Chelsea have lost the rhythm of the team, there are many problems of understanding between the players. The coach of the team needs to develop some new strategies.
There is no doubt recently Chelsea having big mess up specially after sacking of Thomas Tuchal because now new coach is trying to off load all players which were bought by him and bringing his players which can give him better performance and results even this all is not easy and needs time with waste of good amount as well but if they are going to have better results and taking back their top rank this all could be amazing and no headache for the management as well because they need good results and wins which are possible just with the quality performance and good players.

Right now, time is running out quickly which is also issued for them because currently they have few days before they are going to face Borussia Dortmund which is having good start in Bundesliga and things are looking interesting for these both teams before this big class hopefully fans will be able to have good soccer.

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January 27, 2023, 01:22:18 PM
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Chelsea and Liverpool seem to be the center of attention now in the Champions League, yes, this is inseparable from the poor performances they have shown in the domestic league. The truth is they are a big team who have always been able to compete for the Champions League championship, but now they have a lot of doubts about what they are doing with their game not improving. This is a real impact for them, especially in the Champions League, there are many teams that have great strength to compete and become champions here.
maybe one of the problems is the storm of injuries to their players so that they have to arrange a lot of strategies to deal with each of their opponents, even though their ending looks bad but slowly over time they will quickly recover and get better, there is still time before the Champions league really started and they have to clean up when it starts

I believe that Chelsea is at a better advantage to succeed in the Champions League, even though both teams are not in their best of forms, but the team facing Liverpool is much better than the team facing Chelsea.
Chelsea will always be superior to their German counterparts anytime, anywhere. But Liverpool cannot claim superiority over Real Madrid in any aspect of football.
So it is Liverpool that is in the serious mess.

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January 27, 2023, 02:31:45 PM
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I believe that Chelsea is at a better advantage to succeed in the Champions League, even though both teams are not in their best of forms, but the team facing Liverpool is much better than the team facing Chelsea.
Chelsea will always be superior to their German counterparts anytime, anywhere. But Liverpool cannot claim superiority over Real Madrid in any aspect of football.
So it is Liverpool that is in the serious mess.
Chelsea have easy opponent on next round than Liverpool against Real Madrid, but not guarantee after success qualify to quarter final easy team are opponent for Chelsea. Despite later success eliminated Dortmund I don't sure with Chelsea potential will lead to semifinal after inconsistency performance in Primer League. Have spent much money for transfer but Chelsea can't back to the top fourth standing in Primer League and have the same situation with Liverpool. Dortmund success won last match in Bundesliga and Chelsea be careful if want qualify to next round they have back to the top performance, enough with inconsistency and most goals conceded in Primer League to make better performance in Champion League round 16 held on middle February.


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January 27, 2023, 02:36:23 PM
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I believe that Chelsea is at a better advantage to succeed in the Champions League, even though both teams are not in their best of forms, but the team facing Liverpool is much better than the team facing Chelsea.
Chelsea will always be superior to their German counterparts anytime, anywhere. But Liverpool cannot claim superiority over Real Madrid in any aspect of football.
So it is Liverpool that is in the serious mess.
But seeing Dortmund's revival in their few matches in the regular league it looks like it will be a problem for Chelsea. Moreover, the first leg match will take place at home to Dortmund, of course that will make Chelsea very depressed and the possibility of beating Dortmund is very small. When talking about Liverpool, they are in serious turmoil because seeing their opponent is Real Madrid, of course, that makes the hopes Liverpool want to continue advancing to the next round of the UCL begin to fade. But we have to wait for these 2 matches to start if we want to see the performance of these teams.
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Napoli won 5-1 against one of the strongest teams in Serie A, Juventus. And in the next match, they will play against Roma. I would say if a Napoli team can dominate and win against Roma then I think Napoli will continue this streak in the Champions League as well. A Napoli team should not be underestimated this season. They have been performing well since the beginning of the season. After that, Napoli will play against Frankfurt in about 4 weeks. Napoli is expected to win if players do not suffer major injuries.
Napoli are currently having a great performance. All the pillars of the team are playing brilliantly and Napoli are really going for the win. But the match against Roma I think will be very strong. Because Paulo Dybala is in one of the best forms in the Roma team.
Napoli's form from round one in Serie A is amazing, and they are not taking break which is also good their first game in Champions League was also having impressive result which give them big win, and now they have good match against German Frankfurt which is also playing aggressive game and having good season in their domestic league with now chance into knock out round of the Champions League here most chances Napoli could be on track to qualify for the quarterfinal and then for me, they have strength to be in last four as well because they are playing amazing soccer and giving no chance to their opponents for having any challenge for them.

After thrashing Juventus now AS Roma is also on front for the match in next round in Serie A but most chances they could be lost this match by big margin like Napoli beats Juventus because things are completely favoring them at home.
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January 27, 2023, 02:52:38 PM
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Napoli won 5-1 against one of the strongest teams in Serie A, Juventus. And in the next match, they will play against Roma. I would say if a Napoli team can dominate and win against Roma then I think Napoli will continue this streak in the Champions League as well. A Napoli team should not be underestimated this season. They have been performing well since the beginning of the season. After that, Napoli will play against Frankfurt in about 4 weeks. Napoli is expected to win if players do not suffer major injuries.
Napoli are currently having a great performance. All the pillars of the team are playing brilliantly and Napoli are really going for the win. But the match against Roma I think will be very strong. Because Paulo Dybala is in one of the best forms in the Roma team.
Napoli's form from round one in Serie A is amazing, and they are not taking break which is also good their first game in Champions League was also having impressive result which give them big win, and now they have good match against German Frankfurt which is also playing aggressive game and having good season in their domestic league with now chance into knock out round of the Champions League here most chances Napoli could be on track to qualify for the quarterfinal and then for me, they have strength to be in last four as well because they are playing amazing soccer and giving no chance to their opponents for having any challenge for them.

After thrashing Juventus now AS Roma is also on front for the match in next round in Serie A but most chances they could be lost this match by big margin like Napoli beats Juventus because things are completely favoring them at home.
The match between Napoli and Roma will be competitive. Because Napoli are performing well, while Roma have Paulo Dybala in one of the most form. So from my point of view the match is going to be a tough fight.

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January 27, 2023, 02:55:13 PM
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I'm not a Chelsea fan but from my point of view. The problems that occur within Chelsea's body are not that simple. not only midfielders and defense. but as a whole the team, especially the front line which is not too reliable. in fact, Potter tried to make the most of his players, but Chelsea had a lot of problems. unmitigated, 9 core players of whom had to be absent due to injury. not an easy job for Potter, or for Zidan's caliber if he is in charge of Chelsea in the current situation.

Todd, trying to bring in newcomers to get around the situation that is happening within Chelsea. but what Chelsea really needs is not just new ammunition, but the chemistry and mentality that they have to build regardless of how many of their players are injured.

I see Potter has put a lot of effort in, including rotating his players plus tweaking the ideal formation for his team. however, again as I said. it's not easy, IMO maybe Chelsea will reform into a formidable team again in the next season.
I don't know much about Chelsea's internal problems so far, because basically I am the same as you.
As far as I know Chelsea haven't impressed during the new owner's switch from previous owner Roman Abramovich to Todd Boehly. Performance issues are problems we've seen so far, but of course it's difficult to put together really solid team during this transitional period.

Even though Todd Boehly squandered money to buy players, it was difficult for them to reach top performance. I know it's a complex issue, but I don't think Chelsea will be better this season but maybe next season. These new coaches and players need time, and I can't expect them to do very well in their first season.

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January 27, 2023, 03:06:16 PM
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Chelsea and Liverpool seem to be the center of attention now in the Champions League, yes, this is inseparable from the poor performances they have shown in the domestic league. The truth is they are a big team who have always been able to compete for the Champions League championship, but now they have a lot of doubts about what they are doing with their game not improving. This is a real impact for them, especially in the Champions League, there are many teams that have great strength to compete and become champions here.
maybe one of the problems is the storm of injuries to their players so that they have to arrange a lot of strategies to deal with each of their opponents, even though their ending looks bad but slowly over time they will quickly recover and get better, there is still time before the Champions league really started and they have to clean up when it starts
If the problem is a storm of injuries then they should be able to show improvement by now, especially since they have several players brought in in the transfer market this time. The injury storm might have been one of the reasons why they had a dip in form, but that's not the main problem in my opinion. There is still time for them to play in the Champions League. But does it have to be until that game gets underway for us to see improvement in their game? Not so isn't it.

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January 27, 2023, 03:20:29 PM
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Chelsea and Liverpool seem to be the center of attention now in the Champions League, yes, this is inseparable from the poor performances they have shown in the domestic league. The truth is they are a big team who have always been able to compete for the Champions League championship, but now they have a lot of doubts about what they are doing with their game not improving. This is a real impact for them, especially in the Champions League, there are many teams that have great strength to compete and become champions here.
Chelsea and Liverpool are indeed the concern of many observers because of their appearance in the domestic league which is still far from expectations. Perhaps it will be different when they.play in the Champion League although more or less the effect of their poor performance will be contagious when dealing with a team like Real Madrid who is still in a stable condition in the Spanish La Liga.

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They changed the coach position from Tuchel to Potter a few months ago and it is long enough to expect for good improvement from Potter. So far I don't see good improvement for Chelsea from Potter and lately they have gotten some new players including an expensive player Mudryk as well as a big loan of Joao Felix. I don't think it is fair to blame all bad results on Potter. Other people are responsible for the club performance too from players to his assistants and medical staffs.

To be fair we are just getting to mid season and Potter didn't become the Chelsea coach immediately the league kicked off, so far I see little improvements but I believe with the current new signings there will be some changes in the team’s performance after the window. Just like you said the responsibility of improving the team doesn't rest of the shoulder of the coach alone, every player and staff also have a role to play in improving the team

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