[Boxing] Nonito Donaire vs Alejandro Santiago for WBC bantamweight (july15,2023

[goinmerry]

May the best man win. I hope Astrolabio wins so it could be easier for him to unify with Donaire or any other future champions.

Astrolabio winning that match might result in Moloney hiding in embarrassment. They avoid Nonito Donaire and then choose another path but on that chosen path, they failed just because they think it was the easy opponent waiting for them.

But personally, I want to see Donaire vs Moloney in the future and the only way is by unification match if both of them will win their respective matches.

Let's see what will be the result of their respective fights.

[Silberman]

The problem for Moloney is that even if ducking out Donaire at this time in a way makes sense, as there is no point to try so hard to push for a belt when the four of them are out there for anyone good enough to get one, so even if the fans are not happy with his decision we can understand it, however if both of them become champions and then he ducks Donaire again despite his age then that is the same as admitting as he does not think he has any chance against Donaire, and any benefits he may get from being a champion will evaporate.

Choosing to fight an opponent that he believes he can beat and then moving on to a unification fight with Donaire is a smart move for him. This is an easier path to take compared to going up against one of the best in this division, which could potentially put his chances of winning the belt at risk. Whatever his plan may be, it's a viable strategy, and hopefully, we'll see both fighters in action in the future.

I hope this is the case otherwise it would be incredibly disappointing that Moloney tried to duck Donaire again if both were to get the win on their respective fights and both became champions, after all with the departure of Inoue there will not be much room for the new title holders to avoid each other, as most of the talented boxers on the bantamweight division would have had a chance to get a belt and there will not be many challengers left for whoever that becomes a champion, so a Moloney vs Donaire fight would make sense at that point in time.

[freedomgo]

May the best man win. I hope Astrolabio wins so it could be easier for him to unify with Donaire or any other future champions.

Astrolabio winning that match might result in Moloney hiding in embarrassment. They avoid Nonito Donaire and then choose another path but on that chosen path, they failed just because they think it was the easy opponent waiting for them.

But personally, I want to see Donaire vs Moloney in the future and the only way is by unification match if both of them will win their respective matches.

Let's see what will be the result of their respective fights.

I'm honestly hoping for that same situation where Moloney will meet his fair share and that's a loss towards another Filipino boxer, Astrolabio.

It's not totally impossible because they are choosing the safest way and probably, they will underestimate his opponent that will result into a lot of errors inside the ring. I believe that Astrolabio can upset Moloney considering that he got an unpredictable KO punch, just like what he did to his recent opponent Potapov in their battle to have the WBO Inter-Continental.

[Kemarit]

May the best man win. I hope Astrolabio wins so it could be easier for him to unify with Donaire or any other future champions.

Astrolabio winning that match might result in Moloney hiding in embarrassment. They avoid Nonito Donaire and then choose another path but on that chosen path, they failed just because they think it was the easy opponent waiting for them.

But personally, I want to see Donaire vs Moloney in the future and the only way is by unification match if both of them will win their respective matches.

Let's see what will be the result of their respective fights.

I'm honestly hoping for that same situation where Moloney will meet his fair share and that's a loss towards another Filipino boxer, Astrolabio.

It's not totally impossible because they are choosing the safest way and probably, they will underestimate his opponent that will result into a lot of errors inside the ring. I believe that Astrolabio can upset Moloney considering that he got an unpredictable KO punch, just like what he did to his recent opponent Potapov in their battle to have the WBO Inter-Continental.

Let's see, if I'm not mistaken, this Filipino went under the radar in this division, same with Reymart Gaballo (although he lost to Nonito already). So if this two can win their title eliminator or for the vacated belt, then it's good for the Filipino fans as it's possible that they might get 2 titles in the bantamweight.

But of course all eyes is on Nonito right now, in this fight he will be the favorite to become the next champion.

And maybe later if there is time, he can deal with Moloney as he avoided Nonito but the chances are low for them to see each other in the ring because Arum doesn't want to work with Probellum.

[lionheart78]

May the best man win. I hope Astrolabio wins so it could be easier for him to unify with Donaire or any other future champions.

Astrolabio winning that match might result in Moloney hiding in embarrassment. They avoid Nonito Donaire and then choose another path but on that chosen path, they failed just because they think it was the easy opponent waiting for them.

But personally, I want to see Donaire vs Moloney in the future and the only way is by unification match if both of them will win their respective matches.

Let's see what will be the result of their respective fights.

I'd rather see two Filipino boxer scheduled for title unification than see Moloney fighting against Donaire for that event.  It would be beneficial for the Philippines boxing if the title will be won by Astrolabio when he fight against Moloney, because it will be 100% Filipino boxer to hold a unified title no matter who win if Astrolabio beats Moloney and got the schedule for the title unification against Donaire.

But I think it is too early to look for that, we need to see Donaire winning the match against Alejandro Santiago first, and Astrolabio winning against Moloney.

And maybe later if there is time, he can deal with Moloney as he avoided Nonito but the chances are low for them to see each other in the ring because Arum doesn't want to work with Probellum.

If Moloney losses to Astrolabio, the chance of seeing Donaire vs Moloney is slim.  Unless Moloney is the top contender, I do not see Donaire considering Moloney for a fight because he gets nothing of beating him unless he(Moloney) won against Astrolabio.

[Jating]

^^ And it's hard to see them facing, I think if Donaire will win this fight, he will have to defend it within the own organization as he is just a newly crown champion and just like the rest of boxers that will win in the other major governing belts. There will be no cross over fight or unification just yet.

For sure though, The Donaire's will have this in mind, that at one time, Moloney who agreed by principle during the WBC convention to fight him for the belt suddenly change his mind and then go on to move to WBO.

[Pamadar]

^^ And it's hard to see them facing, I think if Donaire will win this fight, he will have to defend it within the own organization as he is just a newly crown champion and just like the rest of boxers that will win in the other major governing belts. There will be no cross over fight or unification just yet.

For sure though, The Donaire's will have this in mind, that at one time, Moloney who agreed by principle during the WBC convention to fight him for the belt suddenly change his mind and then go on to move to WBO.

Yeah right, better to wait for whatever it's awaits him after winning the fight, let Maloney push his way to challenge or ask for the fight as long as Donaire will get decent earnings then so be it.

Taking care of his finances while there's still plenty of time for him is the best decision for the Donaire,
win the fight and take a good amount of offer next.

[molsewid]

Yeah right, better to wait for whatever it's awaits him after winning the fight, let Maloney push his way to challenge or ask for the fight as long as Donaire will get decent earnings then so be it.

Taking care of his finances while there's still plenty of time for him is the best decision for the Donaire,
win the fight and take a good amount of offer next.

Yeah but most of us will be a lot happier if he will going to win this fight. We all know donaire from his wins to his losses, though sometimes I am thinking that maybe he should rest, but then if he still can fight other boxers and his team is still able to improve his stats before then no problem at all. I just say that he is already a winner to us, a champion whether he wins or he lose Donaire is Donaire.

[TimeTeller]

^^ And it's hard to see them facing, I think if Donaire will win this fight, he will have to defend it within the own organization as he is just a newly crown champion and just like the rest of boxers that will win in the other major governing belts. There will be no cross over fight or unification just yet.

For sure though, The Donaire's will have this in mind, that at one time, Moloney who agreed by principle during the WBC convention to fight him for the belt suddenly change his mind and then go on to move to WBO.

Yeah right, better to wait for whatever it's awaits him after winning the fight, let Maloney push his way to challenge or ask for the fight as long as Donaire will get decent earnings then so be it.

Taking care of his finances while there's still plenty of time for him is the best decision for the Donaire,
win the fight and take a good amount of offer next.

That I do agree. He needs to take the situation one at a time as he doesn't know yet what the future holds for him.
They can't decide what to do next if the fight is not even happening yet.
He will know his capability as a boxer after the match, if he can still pursue one more given he's also aging.
Much better if he will retire the sports on a winning side. There's a lot younger generation just waiting for their turn to shine.
If he will retire in good shape, then, that's already winning in my opinion. Not all boxers retire with money and good health.

[blockman]

That I do agree. He needs to take the situation one at a time as he doesn't know yet what the future holds for him.
They can't decide what to do next if the fight is not even happening yet.
He will know his capability as a boxer after the match, if he can still pursue one more given he's also aging.
Much better if he will retire the sports on a winning side. There's a lot younger generation just waiting for their turn to shine.
If he will retire in good shape, then, that's already winning in my opinion. Not all boxers retire with money and good health.

That is what most fans are thinking of him, he just needs to pursue retirement after just winning any match. Regardless of whom it was against, that's what we want to happen for him. But that's what he wants for himself? We guess so and hopefully that's actually what he wants to happen. Because if not, he might just find out that retirement is really for him whether he wins or not. He just needs to take one more shot if he's not yet satisfied with his current situation before he retires. Because if he retires and it's also a loss on his end, that won't be the best retirement ever but he has to embrace that with an open heart as not all boxers are ending retirement with a recent win.

[harizen]

What's the purpose of that? In my opinion, that's not a smart idea. If Moloney really feels that he is a champion, he should be willing to fight anyone who wants to challenge him. He is younger than Donaire, so he may have an advantage. Besides, Donaire is not unbeatable as he suffered a bad defeat against Inoue in their last fight.

We need to wait for the outcome of this fight first, and if Donaire does become a champion again, maybe Moloney will change his mind.

It's not just Moloney I guess but there are other reasons why their camp backed out on that fight, maybe boxing politics again.

Besides, Moloney is not being challenged by Donaire but the fight was ordered being him the rank 1 and Donaire the rank 2 by the WBC.

Moving forward, if they will win their respective fights, they will possibly meet up in a unification fight.

[goinmerry]

That is what most fans are thinking of him, he just needs to pursue retirement after just winning any match. Regardless of whom it was against, that's what we want to happen for him. But that's what he wants for himself? We guess so and hopefully that's actually what he wants to happen. Because if not, he might just find out that retirement is really for him whether he wins or not. He just needs to take one more shot if he's not yet satisfied with his current situation before he retires. Because if he retires and it's also a loss on his end, that won't be the best retirement ever but he has to embrace that with an open heart as not all boxers are ending retirement with a recent win.

Let Donaire just do what he wants. He was against at Inoue on his last match and the monster is really powerful at 122.

Donaire wants to check if his strength is still there if he is up against any other boxer at 122 now that Inoue moved up.

Until he wasn't beaten aside from Inoue in the 122, he will just continue to fight I guess.

[agustina2]

That is what most fans are thinking of him, he just needs to pursue retirement after just winning any match. Regardless of whom it was against, that's what we want to happen for him. But that's what he wants for himself? We guess so and hopefully that's actually what he wants to happen. Because if not, he might just find out that retirement is really for him whether he wins or not. He just needs to take one more shot if he's not yet satisfied with his current situation before he retires. Because if he retires and it's also a loss on his end, that won't be the best retirement ever but he has to embrace that with an open heart as not all boxers are ending retirement with a recent win.

Let Donaire just do what he wants. He was against at Inoue on his last match and the monster is really powerful at 122.

Donaire wants to check if his strength is still there if he is up against any other boxer at 122 now that Inoue moved up.

Until he wasn't beaten aside from Inoue in the 122, he will just continue to fight I guess.

I agree with you. Donaire knows what to do so let's just allow him to do what he wants, whatever he feels. We don't understand what's on his shoe. That's not about being not contented but what if he really has that power to dominate the Bantamweight because Naoya Inoue is not there anymore? Santiago is not even a dangerous threat compared to Jason Moloney.

There are people here who don't know how's the competition in the bantamweight right now so it's easy for them to say that Donaire needs to retire.

[Botnake]

What's the purpose of that? In my opinion, that's not a smart idea. If Moloney really feels that he is a champion, he should be willing to fight anyone who wants to challenge him. He is younger than Donaire, so he may have an advantage. Besides, Donaire is not unbeatable as he suffered a bad defeat against Inoue in their last fight.

We need to wait for the outcome of this fight first, and if Donaire does become a champion again, maybe Moloney will change his mind.

It's not just Moloney I guess but there are other reasons why their camp backed out on that fight, maybe boxing politics again.

Besides, Moloney is not being challenged by Donaire but the fight was ordered being him the rank 1 and Donaire the rank 2 by the WBC.

Moving forward, if they will win their respective fights, they will possibly meet up in a unification fight.

Let's hope for a favorable outcome in both of their fights. Donaire is determined to prove himself to his fans and dominate against Moloney. If he wins a unification fight, it would be a significant achievement and could potentially make him an undisputed champion.

Inoue is unlikely to move down to bantamweight again, creating a great opportunity for anyone to become a champion in this division.

[Questat]

Inoue is unlikely to move down to bantamweight again, creating a great opportunity for anyone to become a champion in this division.

Agreed, Inoue is unlikely to return to the bantamweight division as he has already dominated it and become an undisputed champion. With his exceptional boxing skills, he is more likely to achieve greater success in a higher division, where there is also more money to be made. Inoue is still pushing his limits and has a long career ahead of him. His focus should be on winning every fight and following in the footsteps of legends like Pacquiao, who has achieved both success and wealth through their boxing careers.

[Yaunfitda]

Inoue is unlikely to move down to bantamweight again, creating a great opportunity for anyone to become a champion in this division.

Agreed, Inoue is unlikely to return to the bantamweight division as he has already dominated it and become an undisputed champion. With his exceptional boxing skills, he is more likely to achieve greater success in a higher division, where there is also more money to be made. Inoue is still pushing his limits and has a long career ahead of him. His focus should be on winning every fight and following in the footsteps of legends like Pacquiao, who has achieved both success and wealth through their boxing careers.

I don't know why the issue of him going down in weight in bantamweight has surface, even if he losses to Fulton, he should stick to super bantamweight as his body can't make it to 118 lbs and it will just cause him more problems in his health if he decided to go down again.

So I do agree that if he really wanted to become another legend like Manny, he should be moving up in weight and chasing those belts. However, personally, I don't see him moving further, maybe 126 lbs in the future, but that's going to be very hard unless his body will still continue to grow or he just add more pounds, but it's different if you can't bring you power to the new weight class that he is targeting.

[Jawhead999]

I don't know why the issue of him going down in weight in bantamweight has surface, even if he losses to Fulton, he should stick to super bantamweight as his body can't make it to 118 lbs and it will just cause him more problems in his health if he decided to go down again.

So I do agree that if he really wanted to become another legend like Manny, he should be moving up in weight and chasing those belts. However, personally, I don't see him moving further, maybe 126 lbs in the future, but that's going to be very hard unless his body will still continue to grow or he just add more pounds, but it's different if you can't bring you power to the new weight class that he is targeting.

Maybe people are refer to Canelo where he's not capable in light heavyweight division and he return back to super middleweight where he really destroy everyone in this division. If Inoue lost against Fulton, I think he will want a rematch rather than back to bantamweight division, no one want to fight with him.

AFAIK there's no boxer which ever become undisputed champion in three different divisions, Inoue can take this challenge because he's still young and powerful. He will have a race with Canelo since Canelo already become undisputed champion in two different divisions.

[Botnake]

Inoue is unlikely to move down to bantamweight again, creating a great opportunity for anyone to become a champion in this division.

Agreed, Inoue is unlikely to return to the bantamweight division as he has already dominated it and become an undisputed champion. With his exceptional boxing skills, he is more likely to achieve greater success in a higher division, where there is also more money to be made. Inoue is still pushing his limits and has a long career ahead of him. His focus should be on winning every fight and following in the footsteps of legends like Pacquiao, who has achieved both success and wealth through their boxing careers.

I don't know why the issue of him going down in weight in bantamweight has surface, even if he losses to Fulton, he should stick to super bantamweight as his body can't make it to 118 lbs and it will just cause him more problems in his health if he decided to go down again.

So I do agree that if he really wanted to become another legend like Manny, he should be moving up in weight and chasing those belts. However, personally, I don't see him moving further, maybe 126 lbs in the future, but that's going to be very hard unless his body will still continue to grow or he just add more pounds, but it's different if you can't bring you power to the new weight class that he is targeting.

It's premature to make a judgement on his capabilities just yet. Let him win first in the new division, and we will eventually see if he can move up without losing his power. We had doubts about Manny before, but he proved us wrong by not only carrying his power but also dominating bigger opponents, which led him to become the only 8th division champion.

[Shamm]

I don't know why the issue of him going down in weight in bantamweight has surface, even if he losses to Fulton, he should stick to super bantamweight as his body can't make it to 118 lbs and it will just cause him more problems in his health if he decided to go down again.

So I do agree that if he really wanted to become another legend like Manny, he should be moving up in weight and chasing those belts. However, personally, I don't see him moving further, maybe 126 lbs in the future, but that's going to be very hard unless his body will still continue to grow or he just add more pounds, but it's different if you can't bring you power to the new weight class that he is targeting.

Maybe people are refer to Canelo where he's not capable in light heavyweight division and he return back to super middleweight where he really destroy everyone in this division. If Inoue lost against Fulton, I think he will want a rematch rather than back to bantamweight division, no one want to fight with him.

AFAIK there's no boxer which ever become undisputed champion in three different divisions, Inoue can take this challenge because he's still young and powerful. He will have a race with Canelo since Canelo already become undisputed champion in two different divisions.

We all know that canelo is unstoppable in middle weigh division which is he is totally strong that can bring his Opponent out the ring with a loss.  And also this is what happen if inuoe will fail to fight against fulton we all know that fulton is a strong fighter as well he has a good strategy and techniques so this will be a good match to watch and of inoue will fail then for sure he will go back to the bantamweight which is he is the king of that division .

[Pamadar]

Yeah right, better to wait for whatever it's awaits him after winning the fight, let Maloney push his way to challenge or ask for the fight as long as Donaire will get decent earnings then so be it.

Taking care of his finances while there's still plenty of time for him is the best decision for the Donaire,
win the fight and take a good amount of offer next.

Yeah but most of us will be a lot happier if he will going to win this fight. We all know donaire from his wins to his losses, though sometimes I am thinking that maybe he should rest, but then if he still can fight other boxers and his team is still able to improve his stats before then no problem at all. I just say that he is already a winner to us, a champion whether he wins or he lose Donaire is Donaire.

Just the same with all those legends who continue to bring pride even they are no longer on their primes but still manage to win a fight and become a champ it's really a good way of showing love to the sports.

On Donaire's end, it's another edge if he will take the belt I mean if he become a champion again then
expect to have another money fight before he will retire his gloves right?