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Author Topic: [Boxing] Nonito Donaire vs Alejandro Santiago for WBC bantamweight (july15,2023  (Read 4345 times)
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April 22, 2023, 01:30:42 PM
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Yes you are right that mate donaire's wife is a good businesswowan and for sure they can handle it with care. And if donaire will retire in the world of boxing then nonito can make his own promotion that he can trained many young amature boxer that have a dream to became one of the greatest boxer in the world. because as we can see in the Philippines there are many young man that have a good dream to fight in the ring.

He can train and he can influence the future of those young amateurs by using his former fame as one of the Champ in this sport, and with the way his wife handles his career, she can follow that pattern and build a new champ.

In training future champions, it is not the fame that helps but the experience accumulated by the trainor.  Donaire can advise boxers or even teach methods on foot works, forms, counters, training etc.  Fame cannot teach a boxer how to box but experience do.
Absolutely mate in the world of boxing Fame is not the main train or and we all know that. In donaire's Legacy once he pursues training some amateur boxers then he can teach his experience like sayings that ( experience is the best teacher) because through experience we can learn more things and one of these is if a boxer will lose then he learned a lot. Then in the next match, he avoids the times that happen in his last match so he needs to improve and use other techniques.

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April 22, 2023, 07:09:20 PM
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Yes you are right that mate donaire's wife is a good businesswowan and for sure they can handle it with care. And if donaire will retire in the world of boxing then nonito can make his own promotion that he can trained many young amature boxer that have a dream to became one of the greatest boxer in the world. because as we can see in the Philippines there are many young man that have a good dream to fight in the ring.

He can train and he can influence the future of those young amateurs by using his former fame as one of the Champ in this sport, and with the way his wife handles his career, she can follow that pattern and build a new champ.

In training future champions, it is not the fame that helps but the experience accumulated by the trainor.  Donaire can advise boxers or even teach methods on foot works, forms, counters, training etc.  Fame cannot teach a boxer how to box but experience do.
Absolutely mate in the world of boxing Fame is not the main train or and we all know that. In donaire's Legacy once he pursues training some amateur boxers then he can teach his experience like sayings that ( experience is the best teacher) because through experience we can learn more things and one of these is if a boxer will lose then he learned a lot. Then in the next match, he avoids the times that happen in his last match so he needs to improve and use other techniques.

I guess that would be his goal one he hangs up his gloves and might be the reason why he's still fighting in the height of his 40s, well, apart from the fact that he can still fight impressively and might be next undisputed champion in bantamweight if he's lucky to unify the belts as fast as he can. As far as I know, Donaire already owned a gym in the Philippines with an aim to train aspiring boxers to be the future champions especially if they already got natural talents,, and then he also owned a gym located somewhere in California.

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April 23, 2023, 12:30:33 AM
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apart from the fact that he can still fight impressively and might be next undisputed champion in bantamweight if he's lucky to unify the belts as fast as he can.

In Nonito Donaire's last 6 bouts within 5 years, it's only against Naoya Inoue he got defeated.

After his first defeat against Inoue, he reclaimed 2 winnings later on at the age of 38 and 39 with an impressive knockout win. I think that's the reason why he still wants to fight since Inoue is nowhere anymore in the Bantamweight specifically in the 122 lbs division.

I'm sure if he losses again at the hands of a boxer in the 122 aside from Inoue, he will now consider retiring from boxing and finally hang his gloves. Until then, he will just continue to fight and if he continues winning, maybe just targeting being an undisputed champion as his final target before retiring.
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April 23, 2023, 11:33:23 AM
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Yes you are right that mate donaire's wife is a good businesswowan and for sure they can handle it with care. And if donaire will retire in the world of boxing then nonito can make his own promotion that he can trained many young amature boxer that have a dream to became one of the greatest boxer in the world. because as we can see in the Philippines there are many young man that have a good dream to fight in the ring.

He can train and he can influence the future of those young amateurs by using his former fame as one of the Champ in this sport, and with the way his wife handles his career, she can follow that pattern and build a new champ.

In training future champions, it is not the fame that helps but the experience accumulated by the trainor.  Donaire can advise boxers or even teach methods on foot works, forms, counters, training etc.  Fame cannot teach a boxer how to box but experience do.
Absolutely mate in the world of boxing Fame is not the main train or and we all know that. In donaire's Legacy once he pursues training some amateur boxers then he can teach his experience like sayings that ( experience is the best teacher) because through experience we can learn more things and one of these is if a boxer will lose then he learned a lot. Then in the next match, he avoids the times that happen in his last match so he needs to improve and use other techniques.

I guess that would be his goal one he hangs up his gloves and might be the reason why he's still fighting in the height of his 40s, well, apart from the fact that he can still fight impressively and might be next undisputed champion in bantamweight if he's lucky to unify the belts as fast as he can. As far as I know, Donaire already owned a gym in the Philippines with an aim to train aspiring boxers to be the future champions especially if they already got natural talents,, and then he also owned a gym located somewhere in California.

It is possible for him to unify the belts in this division. If he will continue winning, he can challenge the other belt holder and unify everything at his age. He still got that winning capability.

We are waiting for his upcoming fight and see if he will reclaim the belt and will try to negotiate while
he still has that power to continue winning, else, maybe we will see him retiring.
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April 23, 2023, 01:57:38 PM
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I still wonder though why there is no update in this fight?

The weird thing is that when I check Donaire's boxrec, there's no future fight, usually when fighters have potential fight is will be shown in his record. But not in this case. So personally, I don't think that this fight is going to be made though. We don't know if Santiago and Donaire are even doing some negotiations right now. The point that Donaire is in the Philippines and then us talking about how business savvy Rachel Donaire is  Smiley makes me think that it might take some time or even the fight could not be done for this year.
Correct. It's difficult to find an update about this upcoming fight. Mostly, are Philippines news outlets that are making articles about it, not international ones. According to box live it will happen in the Summer of 2023 which is June, July, or August but I think it will be in August because they are not aggressive yet at providing news to market this fight.
Maybe we will find it out in May, or worst, the last week of it before they could finalize the actual event place and the exact date on when they will face each other.
Even the social media pages of Nonito Donaire have no updates about it. But this will really happen because it's according to the WBC president when interviewed.

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April 23, 2023, 06:08:49 PM
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Yes you are right that mate donaire's wife is a good businesswowan and for sure they can handle it with care. And if donaire will retire in the world of boxing then nonito can make his own promotion that he can trained many young amature boxer that have a dream to became one of the greatest boxer in the world. because as we can see in the Philippines there are many young man that have a good dream to fight in the ring.

He can train and he can influence the future of those young amateurs by using his former fame as one of the Champ in this sport, and with the way his wife handles his career, she can follow that pattern and build a new champ.

In training future champions, it is not the fame that helps but the experience accumulated by the trainor.  Donaire can advise boxers or even teach methods on foot works, forms, counters, training etc.  Fame cannot teach a boxer how to box but experience do.
Absolutely mate in the world of boxing Fame is not the main train or and we all know that. In donaire's Legacy once he pursues training some amateur boxers then he can teach his experience like sayings that ( experience is the best teacher) because through experience we can learn more things and one of these is if a boxer will lose then he learned a lot. Then in the next match, he avoids the times that happen in his last match so he needs to improve and use other techniques.

I guess that would be his goal one he hangs up his gloves and might be the reason why he's still fighting in the height of his 40s, well, apart from the fact that he can still fight impressively and might be next undisputed champion in bantamweight if he's lucky to unify the belts as fast as he can. As far as I know, Donaire already owned a gym in the Philippines with an aim to train aspiring boxers to be the future champions especially if they already got natural talents,, and then he also owned a gym located somewhere in California.

It is possible for him to unify the belts in this division. If he will continue winning, he can challenge the other belt holder and unify everything at his age. He still got that winning capability.

We are waiting for his upcoming fight and see if he will reclaim the belt and will try to negotiate while
he still has that power to continue winning, else, maybe we will see him retiring.

That is if the other belt holders are also interested mainly Jason Moloney (if he is successful for the vacant WBO belt) because we know that if that happens, he might buy some time so that he cannot face Nonito Donaire even if he's already old enough. He just can't take the risk to have another possible defeat again after the failed chase against Inoue because with Nonito Donaire on the same weight class, that will mean that his chance to own every available belt is much lower.

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April 23, 2023, 07:36:14 PM
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It is possible for him to unify the belts in this division. If he will continue winning, he can challenge the other belt holder and unify everything at his age. He still got that winning capability.

I'm not sure if there will be a chance for Donaire to still unify "all the belts" at 118 lbs providing his current age and status.

Just for the record, since Naoya Inoue vacated all his Bantamweight titles, only 1 vacant title is fulfilled at this point, the WBA that is now being held by Naoya's younger brother, Takuma Inoue, just this month. The vacant WBC title, which will be contested between Donaire and Santiago doesn't have any official date yet. The vacant IBF Bantamweight title between Emmanuel Rodriguez and Melvin Lopez also doesn't have any official date yet. For the vacant WBO Bantamweight title, Vincent Astrolabio and Jason Moloney will clash next month. In some cases, these champions will have a mandatory title defense first before having a unification fight.

As for Donaire, I think he might get a chance to unify at least 2 belts between the ages of 41-42. After that, if he still continues winning, I don't know if he will still continue his boxing career to pursue the other belts in that division.

Anyways, just a speculation of mine about the chances of Donaire unifying all the belts since he is now 40 years old. It's not that boxers can settle and deal a fight at least twice a year. Time is running for Donaire if the goal is unifying all the belts although no harm in trying and that will be a record-breaking if happened.

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April 23, 2023, 07:51:22 PM
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It is possible for him to unify the belts in this division. If he will continue winning, he can challenge the other belt holder and unify everything at his age. He still got that winning capability.

I'm not sure if there will be a chance for Donaire to still unify "all the belts" at 118 lbs providing his current age and status.

Just for the record, since Naoya Inoue vacated all his Bantamweight titles, only 1 vacant title is fulfilled at this point, the WBA that is now being held by Naoya's younger brother, Takuma Inoue, just this month. The vacant WBC title, which will be contested between Donaire and Santiago doesn't have any official date yet. The vacant IBF Bantamweight title between Emmanuel Rodriguez and Melvin Lopez also doesn't have any official date yet. For the vacant WBO Bantamweight title, Vincent Astrolabio and Jason Moloney will clash next month. In some cases, these champions will have a mandatory title defense first before having a unification fight.

As for Donaire, I think he might get a chance to unify at least 2 belts between the ages of 41-42. After that, if he still continues winning, I don't know if he will still continue his boxing career to pursue the other belts in that division.

Anyways, just a speculation of mine about the chances of Donaire unifying all the belts since he is now 40 years old. It's not that boxers can settle and deal a fight at least twice a year. Time is running for Donaire if the goal is unifying all the belts although no harm in trying and that will be a record-breaking if happened.
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April 24, 2023, 12:20:09 AM
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It is possible for him to unify the belts in this division. If he will continue winning, he can challenge the other belt holder and unify everything at his age. He still got that winning capability.

I'm not sure if there will be a chance for Donaire to still unify "all the belts" at 118 lbs providing his current age and status.

Just for the record, since Naoya Inoue vacated all his Bantamweight titles, only 1 vacant title is fulfilled at this point, the WBA that is now being held by Naoya's younger brother, Takuma Inoue, just this month. The vacant WBC title, which will be contested between Donaire and Santiago doesn't have any official date yet. The vacant IBF Bantamweight title between Emmanuel Rodriguez and Melvin Lopez also doesn't have any official date yet. For the vacant WBO Bantamweight title, Vincent Astrolabio and Jason Moloney will clash next month. In some cases, these champions will have a mandatory title defense first before having a unification fight.

As for Donaire, I think he might get a chance to unify at least 2 belts between the ages of 41-42. After that, if he still continues winning, I don't know if he will still continue his boxing career to pursue the other belts in that division.

Anyways, just a speculation of mine about the chances of Donaire unifying all the belts since he is now 40 years old. It's not that boxers can settle and deal a fight at least twice a year. Time is running for Donaire if the goal is unifying all the belts although no harm in trying and that will be a record-breaking if happened.

I agree, it will take 2 or 3 years at least for Donaire to unify all the title., that is if he will be able to beat his opponents.  Regardless of his physical condition, he still have to beat the title holders which we know is difficult since these fight will not just stand there and absorbs Donaire's punches.  Plus they are the champion because they are capable.  So it is not only that Donaire is aging but also his opponent is maturing and getting skilled.

Though it looks like the possibility of Donaire to unify all the title is slim, as one of his fans, I still wanted to see him hit that goal before he hang his gloves.
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It is possible for him to unify the belts in this division. If he will continue winning, he can challenge the other belt holder and unify everything at his age. He still got that winning capability.

I'm not sure if there will be a chance for Donaire to still unify "all the belts" at 118 lbs providing his current age and status.

Just for the record, since Naoya Inoue vacated all his Bantamweight titles, only 1 vacant title is fulfilled at this point, the WBA that is now being held by Naoya's younger brother, Takuma Inoue, just this month. The vacant WBC title, which will be contested between Donaire and Santiago doesn't have any official date yet. The vacant IBF Bantamweight title between Emmanuel Rodriguez and Melvin Lopez also doesn't have any official date yet. For the vacant WBO Bantamweight title, Vincent Astrolabio and Jason Moloney will clash next month. In some cases, these champions will have a mandatory title defense first before having a unification fight.

As for Donaire, I think he might get a chance to unify at least 2 belts between the ages of 41-42. After that, if he still continues winning, I don't know if he will still continue his boxing career to pursue the other belts in that division.

Anyways, just a speculation of mine about the chances of Donaire unifying all the belts since he is now 40 years old. It's not that boxers can settle and deal a fight at least twice a year. Time is running for Donaire if the goal is unifying all the belts although no harm in trying and that will be a record-breaking if happened.

I agree, it will take 2 or 3 years at least for Donaire to unify all the title., that is if he will be able to beat his opponents.  Regardless of his physical condition, he still have to beat the title holders which we know is difficult since these fight will not just stand there and absorbs Donaire's punches.  Plus they are the champion because they are capable.  So it is not only that Donaire is aging but also his opponent is maturing and getting skilled.

Though it looks like the possibility of Donaire to unify all the title is slim, as one of his fans, I still wanted to see him hit that goal before he hang his gloves.

That's the obstacle as we know and we already see the effect of getting age from this sport. His movement is far different from his prime, though the combination of punches can still be performed, but his speed might not coordinate.

Though it's really slim to unify all the belts for that reason, as long as he is still standing and aiming to fight and win
we might see him accomplishing it. (just hoping though)
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April 24, 2023, 08:34:09 AM
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apart from the fact that he can still fight impressively and might be next undisputed champion in bantamweight if he's lucky to unify the belts as fast as he can.

In Nonito Donaire's last 6 bouts within 5 years, it's only against Naoya Inoue he got defeated.

After his first defeat against Inoue, he reclaimed 2 winnings later on at the age of 38 and 39 with an impressive knockout win. I think that's the reason why he still wants to fight since Inoue is nowhere anymore in the Bantamweight specifically in the 122 lbs division.

I'm sure if he losses again at the hands of a boxer in the 122 aside from Inoue, he will now consider retiring from boxing and finally hang his gloves. Until then, he will just continue to fight and if he continues winning, maybe just targeting being an undisputed champion as his final target before retiring.

Donaire really has that lethal hooks that this division is not capable of absorbing well. Donaire may be slower now but his chin is somewhat durable in this division and he has enough world-class experience to try to connect his deadly hooks in 12 rounds. I am confident Donaire will become champion again but I am not sure how long he can stay as champion knowing his age. Hopefully, 2 unification fights will happen so it only needs 1 more unification fight to determine the next undisputed champion. Otherwise, it will take years to collect all 4 belts to become undisputed.

By the way, it's 118 for bantamweight mate, 122 is 1 division above.

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April 24, 2023, 10:31:55 AM
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apart from the fact that he can still fight impressively and might be next undisputed champion in bantamweight if he's lucky to unify the belts as fast as he can.

In Nonito Donaire's last 6 bouts within 5 years, it's only against Naoya Inoue he got defeated.

After his first defeat against Inoue, he reclaimed 2 winnings later on at the age of 38 and 39 with an impressive knockout win. I think that's the reason why he still wants to fight since Inoue is nowhere anymore in the Bantamweight specifically in the 122 lbs division.

I'm sure if he losses again at the hands of a boxer in the 122 aside from Inoue, he will now consider retiring from boxing and finally hang his gloves. Until then, he will just continue to fight and if he continues winning, maybe just targeting being an undisputed champion as his final target before retiring.

Donaire really has that lethal hooks that this division is not capable of absorbing well. Donaire may be slower now but his chin is somewhat durable in this division and he has enough world-class experience to try to connect his deadly hooks in 12 rounds. I am confident Donaire will become champion again but I am not sure how long he can stay as champion knowing his age. Hopefully, 2 unification fights will happen so it only needs 1 more unification fight to determine the next undisputed champion. Otherwise, it will take years to collect all 4 belts to become undisputed.

By the way, it's 118 for bantamweight mate, 122 is 1 division above.

Yeah, he still has one of the most lethal left hook, not just in this bantamweight, but all of boxing.

We've seen it in his prime, knocking a lot of great boxers during that time, and his timing is still impeccable at his age. No wonder that he was able to survived this long, because he has perfected everything and not just relying to his God giving talents. So let's wait, I'm also in agreement that he can still be a world champion in this division, maybe 2 belts the most. Time is running out for him though, this fight should be made this year and maybe defended it next year and later go for a unification fight which boxer is available.

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It is possible for him to unify the belts in this division. If he will continue winning, he can challenge the other belt holder and unify everything at his age. He still got that winning capability.

I'm not sure if there will be a chance for Donaire to still unify "all the belts" at 118 lbs providing his current age and status.

Just for the record, since Naoya Inoue vacated all his Bantamweight titles, only 1 vacant title is fulfilled at this point, the WBA that is now being held by Naoya's younger brother, Takuma Inoue, just this month. The vacant WBC title, which will be contested between Donaire and Santiago doesn't have any official date yet. The vacant IBF Bantamweight title between Emmanuel Rodriguez and Melvin Lopez also doesn't have any official date yet. For the vacant WBO Bantamweight title, Vincent Astrolabio and Jason Moloney will clash next month. In some cases, these champions will have a mandatory title defense first before having a unification fight.

As for Donaire, I think he might get a chance to unify at least 2 belts between the ages of 41-42. After that, if he still continues winning, I don't know if he will still continue his boxing career to pursue the other belts in that division.

Anyways, just a speculation of mine about the chances of Donaire unifying all the belts since he is now 40 years old. It's not that boxers can settle and deal a fight at least twice a year. Time is running for Donaire if the goal is unifying all the belts although no harm in trying and that will be a record-breaking if happened.

I had the same thought that Donaire might be too late already to unify all the belts at 118 because time is not on his side anymore, even if we say 2 years from now, he will have successive wins on his fights, we all know that it's still not enough as there are other factors that will delay the time. And up until now, they haven't come up with a schedule so that means he wasting time again and then regarding his age, 2 fights per year will be his maximum.

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April 24, 2023, 09:43:09 PM
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apart from the fact that he can still fight impressively and might be next undisputed champion in bantamweight if he's lucky to unify the belts as fast as he can.

In Nonito Donaire's last 6 bouts within 5 years, it's only against Naoya Inoue he got defeated.

After his first defeat against Inoue, he reclaimed 2 winnings later on at the age of 38 and 39 with an impressive knockout win. I think that's the reason why he still wants to fight since Inoue is nowhere anymore in the Bantamweight specifically in the 122 lbs division.

I'm sure if he losses again at the hands of a boxer in the 122 aside from Inoue, he will now consider retiring from boxing and finally hang his gloves. Until then, he will just continue to fight and if he continues winning, maybe just targeting being an undisputed champion as his final target before retiring.

Donaire really has that lethal hooks that this division is not capable of absorbing well. Donaire may be slower now but his chin is somewhat durable in this division and he has enough world-class experience to try to connect his deadly hooks in 12 rounds. I am confident Donaire will become champion again but I am not sure how long he can stay as champion knowing his age. Hopefully, 2 unification fights will happen so it only needs 1 more unification fight to determine the next undisputed champion. Otherwise, it will take years to collect all 4 belts to become undisputed.

By the way, it's 118 for bantamweight mate, 122 is 1 division above.

Yeah, he still has one of the most lethal left hook, not just in this bantamweight, but all of boxing.

We've seen it in his prime, knocking a lot of great boxers during that time, and his timing is still impeccable at his age. No wonder that he was able to survived this long, because he has perfected everything and not just relying to his God giving talents. So let's wait, I'm also in agreement that he can still be a world champion in this division, maybe 2 belts the most. Time is running out for him though, this fight should be made this year and maybe defended it next year and later go for a unification fight which boxer is available.

I agree, which is why he is pursuing even at his age now to become a world champion once again because he can't just leave the division mainly now that there's nobody dominating it. Without Inoue in the same division, he is surely the right boxer who should own it now but I'm just quite confused because they should've made an announcement this month regarding the details and the date of the fight.

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April 24, 2023, 11:07:47 PM
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It is possible for him to unify the belts in this division. If he will continue winning, he can challenge the other belt holder and unify everything at his age. He still got that winning capability.

I'm not sure if there will be a chance for Donaire to still unify "all the belts" at 118 lbs providing his current age and status.

Just for the record, since Naoya Inoue vacated all his Bantamweight titles, only 1 vacant title is fulfilled at this point, the WBA that is now being held by Naoya's younger brother, Takuma Inoue, just this month. The vacant WBC title, which will be contested between Donaire and Santiago doesn't have any official date yet. The vacant IBF Bantamweight title between Emmanuel Rodriguez and Melvin Lopez also doesn't have any official date yet. For the vacant WBO Bantamweight title, Vincent Astrolabio and Jason Moloney will clash next month. In some cases, these champions will have a mandatory title defense first before having a unification fight.

As for Donaire, I think he might get a chance to unify at least 2 belts between the ages of 41-42. After that, if he still continues winning, I don't know if he will still continue his boxing career to pursue the other belts in that division.

Anyways, just a speculation of mine about the chances of Donaire unifying all the belts since he is now 40 years old. It's not that boxers can settle and deal a fight at least twice a year. Time is running for Donaire if the goal is unifying all the belts although no harm in trying and that will be a record-breaking if happened.

I had the same thought that Donaire might be too late already to unify all the belts at 118 because time is not on his side anymore, even if we say 2 years from now, he will have successive wins on his fights, we all know that it's still not enough as there are other factors that will delay the time. And up until now, they haven't come up with a schedule so that means he wasting time again and then regarding his age, 2 fights per year will be his maximum.

Same here, I also think that Donaire is not getting any younger and every year pass will have a serious impact on his physical attribute.  We all know that once pass the prime, the performance deteriorates, it is whether the strength of the punch, the reflex or the speed and even resistance (wear and tear of a boxer) that are affected.

Anyway, as of now, all we can do is just assume since we are not the one who knows the status of Donaire's body, it is only him that knows whether he can continue or not. I hope Donaire will be smart enough to know when to stop.

We might be seeing the condition of Donaire this fight.  If he is able to finish his opponent without any problem then we can say that Donaire can still rock.
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It is possible for him to unify the belts in this division. If he will continue winning, he can challenge the other belt holder and unify everything at his age. He still got that winning capability.

I'm not sure if there will be a chance for Donaire to still unify "all the belts" at 118 lbs providing his current age and status.

Just for the record, since Naoya Inoue vacated all his Bantamweight titles, only 1 vacant title is fulfilled at this point, the WBA that is now being held by Naoya's younger brother, Takuma Inoue, just this month. The vacant WBC title, which will be contested between Donaire and Santiago doesn't have any official date yet. The vacant IBF Bantamweight title between Emmanuel Rodriguez and Melvin Lopez also doesn't have any official date yet. For the vacant WBO Bantamweight title, Vincent Astrolabio and Jason Moloney will clash next month. In some cases, these champions will have a mandatory title defense first before having a unification fight.

As for Donaire, I think he might get a chance to unify at least 2 belts between the ages of 41-42. After that, if he still continues winning, I don't know if he will still continue his boxing career to pursue the other belts in that division.

Anyways, just a speculation of mine about the chances of Donaire unifying all the belts since he is now 40 years old. It's not that boxers can settle and deal a fight at least twice a year. Time is running for Donaire if the goal is unifying all the belts although no harm in trying and that will be a record-breaking if happened.

I had the same thought that Donaire might be too late already to unify all the belts at 118 because time is not on his side anymore, even if we say 2 years from now, he will have successive wins on his fights, we all know that it's still not enough as there are other factors that will delay the time. And up until now, they haven't come up with a schedule so that means he wasting time again and then regarding his age, 2 fights per year will be his maximum.

Same here, I also think that Donaire is not getting any younger and every year pass will have a serious impact on his physical attribute.  We all know that once pass the prime, the performance deteriorates, it is whether the strength of the punch, the reflex or the speed and even resistance (wear and tear of a boxer) that are affected.

Anyway, as of now, all we can do is just assume since we are not the one who knows the status of Donaire's body, it is only him that knows whether he can continue or not. I hope Donaire will be smart enough to know when to stop.

We might be seeing the condition of Donaire this fight.  If he is able to finish his opponent without any problem then we can say that Donaire can still rock.

It's obvious that he is not getting any younger, and we all know that sooner or later his body and mind might not be able to cope with this brutal sports. So he should take advantage of the opportunity he has been given right now, to fight for the belt as this could be his last chance to become a world champion again.

As for unifying it, we shouldn't just jump on the bandwagon right now. It's better to see his performance against Santiago first and if he wins, then wait for the other body mandatory fight for the belt and see if he can cross over and fight that champion. Or defend the belt at least one more time.

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April 25, 2023, 05:34:58 AM
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...Without Inoue in the same division, he is surely the right boxer who should own it now but I'm just quite confused because they should've made an announcement this month regarding the details and the date of the fight.

You are right. I just realized that this fight still has no exact date and venue until now. I believe both Donaire and Santiago are now in their final few weeks of preparations. They were expected to have started their training camps in early March or even late February so this fight badly needs a venue and a May date ASAP.

I believe the issue here is Richard Schaefer's involvement with the Kinahans, a global Irish syndicate. Probellum already decided to shut operations earlier but later Schaefer was named as president of Anthem Sports which is expected to become the new promoter of Donaire. But there is also the tendency that Anthem Sports is having difficulty dealing with sponsors, venues, and television networks just like Bob Arum earlier shutting down the chances of working with Schaefer.

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April 25, 2023, 11:00:39 AM
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As for unifying it, we shouldn't just jump on the bandwagon right now. It's better to see his performance against Santiago first and if he wins, then wait for the other body mandatory fight for the belt and see if he can cross over and fight that champion. Or defend the belt at least one more time.

I understand why people are excited about the unification fight because most of us thought that Donaire would easily dispose of Santiago as his challenger. I can't wait to see this fight, but unfortunately, there is no specific date yet. Nevertheless, I am still optimistic that the event will happen this year.

Donaire is getting older, so he does not need to wait a long time to have a big fight. After winning, we may witness a unification fight.

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April 25, 2023, 11:28:54 AM
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...Without Inoue in the same division, he is surely the right boxer who should own it now but I'm just quite confused because they should've made an announcement this month regarding the details and the date of the fight.

You are right. I just realized that this fight still has no exact date and venue until now. I believe both Donaire and Santiago are now in their final few weeks of preparations. They were expected to have started their training camps in early March or even late February so this fight badly needs a venue and a May date ASAP.

I don't know if Donaire is now serious about his training right as his fight with Santiago is still in limbo, not definite yet as they have not released a date. I tried to listen to his interview but the volume of his microphone was so slow that we could not understand what he was saying.

If only he is still with Top Rank, i think he could be a good co-main attraction to the Haney vs Loma fight this May 20 in Las Vegas  Cool.

@inthelongrun, bai please decode what Donaire was saying in the video below, maybe you could read what words that came out of his mouth hehe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tvou14vNAt4&ab_channel=SALTPAPI

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April 25, 2023, 01:03:29 PM
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I agree, which is why he is pursuing even at his age now to become a world champion once again because he can't just leave the division mainly now that there's nobody dominating it. Without Inoue in the same division, he is surely the right boxer who should own it now but I'm just quite confused because they should've made an announcement this month regarding the details and the date of the fight.

There might be waiting for the right timing because if they happened to choose a date that will conflict with other star boxers, their earnings will not be that high. Anyway, this is not really a problem for them since they know what they're doing but the problem here is with the boxer because as much as they delayed it more, the chance for the boxers to get injured will increase and it will probably cost them much because the fight will gonna be canceled if that's gonna happen. They should also consider the age of Donaire, he has only a little time left they really need to rush this fight.

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