[Boxing] Nonito Donaire vs Alejandro Santiago for WBC bantamweight (july15,2023

[Questat]

I'm really tempted to bet on Inoue to win by KO; it's 1.98 in my sportsbook now. What do you guys think about these odds? Are you going in, or will you play it safe and just bet on Inoue to win the game regardless of how?

Why would you doubt Inoue? He is a KO artist, and the majority of his wins are through KO. I think it's easy to make a decision. Maybe some media outlets are just hyping Fulton a bit, so people will be confused. But let's keep it simple: Inoue is the favorite and is likely to win the battle.

Inoue's first-round KO win is at x40. Is it worth the risk?

With a small amount at risk and a high reward if you get lucky, you'll surely have fun.

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[Russlenat]

I'm really tempted to bet on Inoue to win by KO; it's 1.98 in my sportsbook now. What do you guys think about these odds? Are you going in, or will you play it safe and just bet on Inoue to win the game regardless of how?

Why would you doubt Inoue? He is a KO artist, and the majority of his wins are through KO. I think it's easy to make a decision. Maybe some media outlets are just hyping Fulton a bit, so people will be confused. But let's keep it simple: Inoue is the favorite and is likely to win the battle.

1.98x is decent enough if that's what you want to hear and most gamblers around the world would surely take advantage of that odds because a KO win is more likely when it comes to Naoya Inoue and I reckon that it is a much safer bet compared to a decision outcome which is not very likely. It may be Fulton's division but we should not forget that the difference in weight is not that far.

Inoue's first-round KO win is at x40. Is it worth the risk?

With a small amount at risk and a high reward if you get lucky, you'll surely have fun.

Why not throw a few bucks, we never know. Things can happen in an unexpected way.

[LUCKMCFLY]

However, if you are just looking for the underdog bet, regardless on who will it be or what fight it is then Santiago ML will be enough, just saying.

That's suicidal thinking. Knowing Donaire, I'm sure he still has a lot to offer and can dominate the division. Santiago may be younger, but he doesn't possess the skills and experience that Donaire has. If we're just after attractive odds, we should consider going for a KO per round range bet, as most of the time the odds are higher than +200.

I know, I'm just saying though, maybe there could be fans of Alejandro that is willing to take the rest and very happy to see that their boy is the underdog. So I don't think that they will think it as a suicide bet.

Of course, as fans of Donaire on the other hand, we will think that there is no value in betting with Alejandro as we think that Donaire can still pull the trigger and make this fight exciting or dominate it and not let the fight goes to the hands of the judges to score it. Already fight week so for sure majority of us will spare some of our BTC in this fight.

No doubt about that because if we are on their shoes and Nonito Donaire is on the underdog corner, I'd bet that many of us here who are supporting him will be glad that he is listed that way because that will mean that Donaire's odds are juicy and not the other way around. In this fight, it's the opposite though but that is fine by me as I'm not really inclined to bet on ML if my boxer is on the favorite side.

Correct. If we are in their shoes and we have seen that our favorite figure is listed as an underdog suredeal, we will quickly
We place our bet because we believe that it will bring us decent profits.

Same thing with how Santiago's fans will react, we can't remove the fact that there are people or fans out there who are believing that upset
can happen as it's boxing, and there's no guarantee.

Let's see what will happen, almost the fight schedule. it allows you to either advance your bet or wait for more available odds.

Well, it's nice that everyone thinks the same about Nonito, and if the younger boxers can have a little more resistance, to have more strength, but I think that here experience will always play an important role in everything, it is not crazy to think that one A person who does not have much fame wants to stand out because they need something to be able to be at the level of the most competitive boxers, there are many, they all seek fame and all want recognition, some seek more money and for that they require a lot of fame, taking into consideration That we as good fans know that a boxer like Nonito can make a difference with this and with anyone, I wish he could win, because I know that by winning he would be making a good story and would obviously call the attention of others for the fights.

Nonito Donaire makes prediction for Stephen Fulton vs. Naoya Inoue

Nontio Donaire gave his verdict on the upcoming super bantamweight clash.

Former multi-weight world champion Nonito Donaire believes WBC and WBO world super bantamweight champion Stephen Fulton has the slight edge over Naoya Inoue.

The pair meet for Fulton's world titles on Tuesday in Japan in what will be Inoue's first fight at 122 pounds.

Donaire has faced Inoue twice during his career in 2019 and 2022, but on both occasions he found himself being beaten by the man known as "The Monster."

Source: https://www.dazn.com/en-US/news/boxing/nonito-donaire-makes-prediction-for-stephen-fulton-vs-naoya-inoue/eag00f3yepe11i6ydhauchv7j

Apparently Nonito is in favor of Fulton and gives his good reasons, well he is respectable, he is a boxer, he has had good experience, and the criteria he bases himself on are respectable, what I think of all this is that anything can happen in that fight, it is notable that Donaire has his favorite according to Fulton's abilities, but personally I think I am not in agreement, for me things are different with Inoue, he is a calculating boxer and that he has a lot to give.

Personally, I will always agree with an Inoue who gives it all the time, also what I have said all the time is that this boxer has a unique talent and is quiet, he does not praise himself and that is a very different characteristic of all boxers, because generally they throw themselves off, he doesn't, he simply concentrates on his fight and that's it.

For my part, I highly respect the opinion of an unborn Donaire, obviously he has a unique experience in boxing, I don't, I barely practiced it as a sport and I know what most do, but Donaire's criteria is unique, also if I'm wrong, then I have nothing left to learn from what he predicted and well, it would be a great knowledge that I would be acquiring, but the truth is that it seems difficult for Fulton to beat Inoue.

[bisdak40]

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For my part, I highly respect the opinion of an unborn Donaire, obviously he has a unique experience in boxing, I don't, I barely practiced it as a sport and I know what most do, but Donaire's criteria is unique, also if I'm wrong, then I have nothing left to learn from what he predicted and well, it would be a great knowledge that I would be acquiring, but the truth is that it seems difficult for Fulton to beat Inoue.

Even if he had fought Inoue, Donaire's prediction is just one man's prediction, I mean his prediction is equal to that of ours, the only advantage that he has is that he is a boxer and knows the sports very well. In the "Tale of the Tape", Fulton will be the bigger boxer as he has fought in this division for quite some time and Inoue fighting for the first time in this division, do he bring his power and speed to 122lbs, which remains to be seen and that makes Fulton on the advantage to Donaire's view.

Let us not forget that the fight will be held in Japan, the only way for you to win is via knockout and I don't think that Fulton could KO Inoue so with that I will be betting Inoue to win via decision @3.10, a good bet for me.

[carlisle1]

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For my part, I highly respect the opinion of an unborn Donaire, obviously he has a unique experience in boxing, I don't, I barely practiced it as a sport and I know what most do, but Donaire's criteria is unique, also if I'm wrong, then I have nothing left to learn from what he predicted and well, it would be a great knowledge that I would be acquiring, but the truth is that it seems difficult for Fulton to beat Inoue.

Even if he had fought Inoue, Donaire's prediction is just one man's prediction, I mean his prediction is equal to that of ours, the only advantage that he has is that he is a boxer and knows the sports very well. In the "Tale of the Tape", Fulton will be the bigger boxer as he has fought in this division for quite some time and Inoue fighting for the first time in this division, do he bring his power and speed to 122lbs, which remains to be seen and that makes Fulton on the advantage to Donaire's view.

Let us not forget that the fight will be held in Japan, the only way for you to win is via knockout and I don't think that Fulton could KO Inoue so with that I will be betting Inoue to win via decision @3.10, a good bet for me.

The outcome of this upcoming fight is yet to be concluded, and anyone can provide their opinion. I'm sure there are other fighters
who have their different opinions about how they are seeing the result of this fight.

Donaire might have his reason and it's an opinion that he might see, but again, we can only declare that once the announcer already
announce the winner, either by decision or by KO.

4 more days and we will witness the fight between Fulton and Inoue, while for Santiago and Donaire, it's more than a week from now.

[Kelvinid]

Let us not forget that the fight will be held in Japan, the only way for you to win is via knockout and I don't think that Fulton could KO Inoue so with that I will be betting Inoue to win via decision @3.10, a good bet for me.

Good luck, but honestly, I find it hard to believe in anything other than a KO win by Inoue. You know, he is a KO artist, so it's most likely he will win via KO if you believe he will win. The reason why a KO win by Inoue has lower odds is because it's likely what we will witness. So, I'm still with Inoue, but on the KO win.

[Ziskinberg]

Let us not forget that the fight will be held in Japan, the only way for you to win is via knockout and I don't think that Fulton could KO Inoue so with that I will be betting Inoue to win via decision @3.10, a good bet for me.

Good luck, but honestly, I find it hard to believe in anything other than a KO win by Inoue. You know, he is a KO artist, so it's most likely he will win via KO if you believe he will win. The reason why a KO win by Inoue has lower odds is because it's likely what we will witness. So, I'm still with Inoue, but on the KO win.

We don't know the outcome of this fight, so what we are doing is just guessing the winner. Most of us probably believe that Inoue will win; it's just that we are looking for more attractive odds, and we know that ML odds are not what we are looking for. So, it's either KO or a win by decision, and @bisdak40 just wants to risk on the bigger odds.

[Yamifoud]

Let us not forget that the fight will be held in Japan, the only way for you to win is via knockout and I don't think that Fulton could KO Inoue so with that I will be betting Inoue to win via decision @3.10, a good bet for me.

Good luck, but honestly, I find it hard to believe in anything other than a KO win by Inoue. You know, he is a KO artist, so it's most likely he will win via KO if you believe he will win. The reason why a KO win by Inoue has lower odds is because it's likely what we will witness. So, I'm still with Inoue, but on the KO win.

We don't know the outcome of this fight, so what we are doing is just guessing the winner. Most of us probably believe that Inoue will win; it's just that we are looking for more attractive odds, and we know that ML odds are not what we are looking for. So, it's either KO or a win by decision, and @bisdak40 just wants to risk on the bigger odds.

Anything could happen, but obviously, now the majority are thinking that Inoue will win. However, we should not be 100% too confident that he will win because Fulton is a decent fighter; he is the champion, and we have to remember that. I hope this isn't going to be a fight like Canelo vs Bivol, where everyone was thinking Canelo would win if he moves up and fights the champion, and Bivol was underestimated at that time.

[Yaunfitda]

Let us not forget that the fight will be held in Japan, the only way for you to win is via knockout and I don't think that Fulton could KO Inoue so with that I will be betting Inoue to win via decision @3.10, a good bet for me.

Good luck, but honestly, I find it hard to believe in anything other than a KO win by Inoue. You know, he is a KO artist, so it's most likely he will win via KO if you believe he will win. The reason why a KO win by Inoue has lower odds is because it's likely what we will witness. So, I'm still with Inoue, but on the KO win.

Yeah, you are right, obviously, Inoue is looking for a KO but we will see if Fulton can handle that power or not. He is the champion here and had fought one of the best in the division in Figueroa and survived.

So for sure this is going to be a great fight, this two boxers style make a perfect fit for a great fight.

And for gamblers, it's really hard to choose or bet and maybe we will have to wait for the day itself to decide where we are going to put our money.

[Vaculin]

Let us not forget that the fight will be held in Japan, the only way for you to win is via knockout and I don't think that Fulton could KO Inoue so with that I will be betting Inoue to win via decision @3.10, a good bet for me.

Good luck, but honestly, I find it hard to believe in anything other than a KO win by Inoue. You know, he is a KO artist, so it's most likely he will win via KO if you believe he will win. The reason why a KO win by Inoue has lower odds is because it's likely what we will witness. So, I'm still with Inoue, but on the KO win.

Considering the odds that @biskdak2 put through, I cannot blame him if he chose to believe that this fight will end into the judge's hand. But since Inoue is a heavy hitter and have more wins via way of knockout in his career, I'd say that there's nothing wrong with betting on Inoue for a KO outcome because I will not deny that it is indeed more likely but based on the odds, I'll just throw a few.

[Distinctin]

Nonito's prediction that Fulton has a slight edge is a bit off. I don't know if he is telling the truth or still not convinced that Inoue is extremely good, as Inoue beat him twice, while Donaire has not even fought Fulton yet. What the public believes is what I believe will happen, so I'm all the way with Inoue here, regardless of how he'll beat Fulton, but I'd love to see a KO if possible.

[Shamm]

Let us not forget that the fight will be held in Japan, the only way for you to win is via knockout and I don't think that Fulton could KO Inoue so with that I will be betting Inoue to win via decision @3.10, a good bet for me.

Good luck, but honestly, I find it hard to believe in anything other than a KO win by Inoue. You know, he is a KO artist, so it's most likely he will win via KO if you believe he will win. The reason why a KO win by Inoue has lower odds is because it's likely what we will witness. So, I'm still with Inoue, but on the KO win.

Considering the odds that @biskdak2 put through, I cannot blame him if he chose to believe that this fight will end into the judge's hand. But since Inoue is a heavy hitter and have more wins via way of knockout in his career, I'd say that there's nothing wrong with betting on Inoue for a KO outcome because I will not deny that it is indeed more likely but based on the odds, I'll just throw a few.

If we look into the history of Inoue's career we can say that we have the mindset that every fight of Inoue will have a chance of winning by Knocking out his opponent, and when the next fight of Inoue still I do believe that there's a high percentage of winning by knockdown. But anyways Inoue nowadays is monster that some fighter will afraid to face with him.

[Sanitough]

Nonito's prediction that Fulton has a slight edge is a bit off. I don't know if he is telling the truth or still not convinced that Inoue is extremely good, as Inoue beat him twice, while Donaire has not even fought Fulton yet. What the public believes is what I believe will happen, so I'm all the way with Inoue here, regardless of how he'll beat Fulton, but I'd love to see a KO if possible.

Yes, it doesn't really make any sense at all because it will be more believable if he is saying otherwise because it was Inoue whom he faced twice and not Fulton. So, I don't really think that he's giving a concrete prediction about this fight, with what he is saying in public now, it seems that he got a grudge against Inoue because he didn't had any chance to defeat the Japanese boxer at all and even embarrassed him on their 2nd encounter.

[harizen]

If we look into the history of Inoue's career we can say that we have the mindset that every fight of Inoue will have a chance of winning by Knocking out his opponent, and when the next fight of Inoue still I do believe that there's a high percentage of winning by knockdown. But anyways Inoue nowadays is monster that some fighter will afraid to face with him.

Honestly, I'm not seeing Stephen Fulton losing via Knock Out.

Maybe he will be KO'ed at some point during the fight but Inoue might win via Decision instead (if let's say Inoue won).

Inoue took 11 Rounds just to Knock Out Paul Butler during their undisputed fight. Paul Butler is even much weaker compared to Stephen Fulton who is a champion at 122 and already defeated some of the popular guys here. I believe Fulton, if let's say he loses the match against Inoue, will be able to survive the 12 rounds dealing with the Japanese Monster.

Aside from that, Fulton being a champion will surely fuel his eagerness and determination not to get KO. And who knows, he might get a win.

Anyway, this is Donaire vs Santiago thread. Let's refrain from discussing too much about the other fight just because Donaire shares his analysis.

[Pamadar]

Nonito's prediction that Fulton has a slight edge is a bit off. I don't know if he is telling the truth or still not convinced that Inoue is extremely good, as Inoue beat him twice, while Donaire has not even fought Fulton yet. What the public believes is what I believe will happen, so I'm all the way with Inoue here, regardless of how he'll beat Fulton, but I'd love to see a KO if possible.

Yes, it doesn't really make any sense at all because it will be more believable if he is saying otherwise because it was Inoue whom he faced twice and not Fulton. So, I don't really think that he's giving a concrete prediction about this fight, with what he is saying in public now, it seems that he got a grudge against Inoue because he didn't had any chance to defeat the Japanese boxer at all and even embarrassed him on their 2nd encounter.

Good point, as he didn't have that chance facing Fulton while he was beaten twice by Inoue,

Though it's just his own opinion and no one is being forced to follow or believe in him, I'm thinking that maybe he's using it for
publicity on this upcoming fight, but in the back of my mind he doesn't need it as the fight has been moved as an undercard with
the well anticipated meetup of Spence and Crawford, no offense to all the opinions but we will be able to conclude it once it
was done.

[Yaunfitda]

Nonito's prediction that Fulton has a slight edge is a bit off. I don't know if he is telling the truth or still not convinced that Inoue is extremely good, as Inoue beat him twice, while Donaire has not even fought Fulton yet. What the public believes is what I believe will happen, so I'm all the way with Inoue here, regardless of how he'll beat Fulton, but I'd love to see a KO if possible.

Yes, it doesn't really make any sense at all because it will be more believable if he is saying otherwise because it was Inoue whom he faced twice and not Fulton. So, I don't really think that he's giving a concrete prediction about this fight, with what he is saying in public now, it seems that he got a grudge against Inoue because he didn't had any chance to defeat the Japanese boxer at all and even embarrassed him on their 2nd encounter.

Good point, as he didn't have that chance facing Fulton while he was beaten twice by Inoue,

Though it's just his own opinion and no one is being forced to follow or believe in him, I'm thinking that maybe he's using it for
publicity on this upcoming fight, but in the back of my mind he doesn't need it as the fight has been moved as an undercard with
the well anticipated meetup of Spence and Crawford, no offense to all the opinions but we will be able to conclude it once it
was done.

Agreed, he is entitled to his own opinion, maybe there is weight on it because he fought Inoue. But we are not sure if he is telling the truth or just because he wanted for Inoue to lose the fight because Naoya knock him out cold in 2 rounds.

So we might listen to their predictions and what not and analysis. But as bettor I think we should know better and bet on the boxer that we think we should win the fight base on our own analysis. But with Donaire vs Santiago, I will go with the popular opinion that Donaire will beat Santiago and win the WBC bantamweight again.

[Ziskinberg]

So we might listen to their predictions and what not and analysis. But as bettor I think we should know better and bet on the boxer that we think we should win the fight base on our own analysis. But with Donaire vs Santiago, I will go with the popular opinion that Donaire will beat Santiago and win the WBC bantamweight again.

Donaire could be wrong because, in the first place, he was mistaken when he believed he could beat Inoue. He was defeated twice, and that's a statement that Inoue is truly unbeatable. I'm not sure what the basis of his prediction is, but if it's solely because Inoue has moved up to a heavier weight, I doubt that's significant enough to affect his chances.

[Yamifoud]

So we might listen to their predictions and what not and analysis. But as bettor I think we should know better and bet on the boxer that we think we should win the fight base on our own analysis. But with Donaire vs Santiago, I will go with the popular opinion that Donaire will beat Santiago and win the WBC bantamweight again.

Donaire could be wrong because, in the first place, he was mistaken when he believed he could beat Inoue. He was defeated twice, and that's a statement that Inoue is truly unbeatable. I'm not sure what the basis of his prediction is, but if it's solely because Inoue has moved up to a heavier weight, I doubt that's significant enough to affect his chances.

That's his personal opinion, though. Despite that, people may not change their minds and would still bet on Inoue. Let's just follow the trend since Inoue is one of the most popular boxers in the world; a loss would be detrimental to his career. So, let's consider that we are betting on his future, and we can be sure that our money is worth it, regardless of the outcome.

[carlisle1]

So we might listen to their predictions and what not and analysis. But as bettor I think we should know better and bet on the boxer that we think we should win the fight base on our own analysis. But with Donaire vs Santiago, I will go with the popular opinion that Donaire will beat Santiago and win the WBC bantamweight again.

Donaire could be wrong because, in the first place, he was mistaken when he believed he could beat Inoue. He was defeated twice, and that's a statement that Inoue is truly unbeatable. I'm not sure what the basis of his prediction is, but if it's solely because Inoue has moved up to a heavier weight, I doubt that's significant enough to affect his chances.

That's his personal opinion, though. Despite that, people may not change their minds and would still bet on Inoue. Let's just follow the trend since Inoue is one of the most popular boxers in the world; a loss would be detrimental to his career. So, let's consider that we are betting on his future, and we can be sure that our money is worth it, regardless of the outcome.

Adding that he's also fighting in front of his own crowd, Japanese culture is also important for them and I'm sure there's
a weight on it and Inoue will do everything not to be embarrassed in front of those Japanese fans'.

Nothing will change on my opinion if you are betting for Inoue, A word from a former opponent, can't vouch a possible outcome of the fight.

Inoue will be tested and by knowing him, always love to accept the challenge and excel from the expectations.

[Maslate]

So we might listen to their predictions and what not and analysis. But as bettor I think we should know better and bet on the boxer that we think we should win the fight base on our own analysis. But with Donaire vs Santiago, I will go with the popular opinion that Donaire will beat Santiago and win the WBC bantamweight again.

Donaire could be wrong because, in the first place, he was mistaken when he believed he could beat Inoue. He was defeated twice, and that's a statement that Inoue is truly unbeatable. I'm not sure what the basis of his prediction is, but if it's solely because Inoue has moved up to a heavier weight, I doubt that's significant enough to affect his chances.

That's his personal opinion, though. Despite that, people may not change their minds and would still bet on Inoue. Let's just follow the trend since Inoue is one of the most popular boxers in the world; a loss would be detrimental to his career. So, let's consider that we are betting on his future, and we can be sure that our money is worth it, regardless of the outcome.

Adding that he's also fighting in front of his own crowd, Japanese culture is also important for them and I'm sure there's
a weight on it and Inoue will do everything not to be embarrassed in front of those Japanese fans'.

Nothing will change on my opinion if you are betting for Inoue, A word from a former opponent, can't vouch a possible outcome of the fight.

Inoue will be tested and by knowing him, always love to accept the challenge and excel from the expectations.

Inoue is the kind of boxing who loves to fight strong boxers that can challenge him to evolve more than what he is right now and maybe that is why he is called a monster in the first place. Also, I think it will be hard to go against him because we saw him numerous times that he can really improvise to keep up with his opponents and in the mid rounds, he is giving more than what his opponent is giving which is also part of the reason why he is upsetting the favorites that he fought when he was still making his name.