[Boxing] Nonito Donaire vs Alejandro Santiago for WBC bantamweight (july15,2023

[mirakal]

This fight is already right around the corner and considering that the fight night is just a few sleeps ahead, I don't think that Fulton will be giving up this fight so that it will be postponed or something like that just because of his baseless accusations, although he might not be the one who is accusing but I know that he's behind this drama and he's just using his coach to deliver the words for him.

He better improve his defense if he doesn't want those punches to be flying through his body and face because if he's not ready for this fight then I guess we will witness another TKO or KO coming from Inoue.

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[Kemarit]

LOL, how this turn out to be Inoue vs Fulton thread? Stay on the topic guys, this thread is about Donaire vs Santiago fight.

And with that, this fight is just a few more days, so let's start betting if you haven't done so. I have Donaire here to win by knockout. Odds are very good at 2.95 so my money goes with that.

I'm thinking that Donaire can still pull the trigger and doesn't want this fight to go over to 12 rounds as he might get tired. So it's better for him to start hard like his previous fight and aim for a KO/TKO.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

^^ Donaire ML is still very attracted in my opinion, that is if you are willing to pour big money on it. So as long as he is going to win here, either by decision or knockout or technical knockout, you can still have a big win.

But for those who are chasing good odds for him, yeah, a stoppage win or even by decision is very juicy odds. However, we should be smart in our bets. So still have days to think about where to put our money, so let's see if there will be changes in the odds specially for backers of Santiago.

[carlisle1]

^^ Donaire ML is still very attracted in my opinion, that is if you are willing to pour big money on it. So as long as he is going to win here, either by decision or knockout or technical knockout, you can still have a big win.

But for those who are chasing good odds for him, yeah, a stoppage win or even by decision is very juicy odds. However, we should be smart in our bets. So still have days to think about where to put our money, so let's see if there will be changes in the odds specially for backers of Santiago.

Yeah, if you are aiming for a win and you are good at backing Donaire, ML is already good to enjoy if ever Donaire
take this fight against Santiago.

Though we all know that there are gamblers who wanted to squeeze for more, and they are willing to take a much bigger risk for a possible
decent compensation, just a good trust for Donaire to win a KO will give much higher winnings.

Let see if there's movement if ever bookies see backers from Santiago to place their bets.

[Baofeng]

If I'm not mistaken, there's not much change in the odds in the last week or so. Meaning those who back up Santiago has already place their bets, big whales and ordinary gamblers just like the rest of us. Same in the case of Donaire though, so the betting has unwind already and maybe they are just waiting for the fight to happen.

But there could be late bets, those undecided, or maybe they are on the Donaire bandwagon, but haven't made their mind yet to go for a knockout or decision bet for Nonito. Personally, I haven't bet as well, but for sure I will go with Donaire here to win.

[Jating]

^^ Donaire ML is still very attracted in my opinion, that is if you are willing to pour big money on it. So as long as he is going to win here, either by decision or knockout or technical knockout, you can still have a big win.

But for those who are chasing good odds for him, yeah, a stoppage win or even by decision is very juicy odds. However, we should be smart in our bets. So still have days to think about where to put our money, so let's see if there will be changes in the odds specially for backers of Santiago.

Yeah, if you are aiming for a win and you are good at backing Donaire, ML is already good to enjoy if ever Donaire
take this fight against Santiago.

Though we all know that there are gamblers who wanted to squeeze for more, and they are willing to take a much bigger risk for a possible
decent compensation, just a good trust for Donaire to win a KO will give much higher winnings.

Let see if there's movement if ever bookies see backers from Santiago to place their bets.

Yep, for us who I will say just had small capital to play, it's better if we are going to look for other possibilities on this fight. It might be very difficult, but that's the excitement in gambling.

Maybe a per round will do, just a prediction on which rounds Donaire will win, same for Santiago supporters here.

But it seems that Donaire is the sentimental favorite here, we wanted to see Donaire makes a comeback win by either ko/tko and then becomes the oldest bantamweight. And for sure Philippines will be proud and happy to see another world champion with their flag on it.

[Ziskinberg]

But it seems that Donaire is the sentimental favorite here, we wanted to see Donaire makes a comeback win by either ko/tko and then becomes the oldest bantamweight. And for sure Philippines will be proud and happy to see another world champion with their flag on it.

Of course, Filipinos will be happy to see Donaire become a champion again, but we also understand that Donaire's career in boxing will end soon. If he becomes a champion, I hope he will stay in this division until he retires, maybe try to get more fights and aim to become an undisputed champion. I think that would already be a good achievement before retiring.

[carlisle1]

But it seems that Donaire is the sentimental favorite here, we wanted to see Donaire makes a comeback win by either ko/tko and then becomes the oldest bantamweight. And for sure Philippines will be proud and happy to see another world champion with their flag on it.

Of course, Filipinos will be happy to see Donaire become a champion again, but we also understand that Donaire's career in boxing will end soon. If he becomes a champion, I hope he will stay in this division until he retires, maybe try to get more fights and aim to become an undisputed champion. I think that would already be a good achievement before retiring.

If possible, to unify all the belts before retiring. For me as well, that's a good accomplishment to bring when you have already decided to retire.

Though it's still early for that conversation as he needed to win this fight first before he can continue
proceed with that possible unification fight.

We might be seeing him trying his best as age really not favoring him, and there are factors that might affect his flexibilities.

[Maslate]

LOL, how this turn out to be Inoue vs Fulton thread? Stay on the topic guys, this thread is about Donaire vs Santiago fight.

And with that, this fight is just a few more days, so let's start betting if you haven't done so. I have Donaire here to win by knockout. Odds are very good at 2.95 so my money goes with that.

I'm thinking that Donaire can still pull the trigger and doesn't want this fight to go over to 12 rounds as he might get tired. So it's better for him to start hard like his previous fight and aim for a KO/TKO.

Hehe I think that it was just an honest mistake because Inoue's name has been always involved whenever we're talking about Nonito Donaire specially after he gave his speculations towards the Inoue vs Fulton fight because surprisingly, Donaire made his own prediction and sided with Stephen Fulton despite the fact that he was defeated twice by Inoue.

Anyway, I already pushed my bets on this fight, and I got Donaire to win via KO as well because to be honest, the moneyline wasn't that tempting.

[Pamadar]

LOL, how this turn out to be Inoue vs Fulton thread? Stay on the topic guys, this thread is about Donaire vs Santiago fight.

And with that, this fight is just a few more days, so let's start betting if you haven't done so. I have Donaire here to win by knockout. Odds are very good at 2.95 so my money goes with that.

I'm thinking that Donaire can still pull the trigger and doesn't want this fight to go over to 12 rounds as he might get tired. So it's better for him to start hard like his previous fight and aim for a KO/TKO.

Hehe I think that it was just an honest mistake because Inoue's name has been always involved whenever we're talking about Nonito Donaire specially after he gave his speculations towards the Inoue vs Fulton fight because surprisingly, Donaire made his own prediction and sided with Stephen Fulton despite the fact that he was defeated twice by Inoue.

Anyway, I already pushed my bets on this fight, and I got Donaire to win via KO as well because to be honest, the moneyline wasn't that tempting.

And it turns that Donaire was wrong as Inoue beats Fulton via TKO.

We can go back to the topic now and forget about what Donaire said about the possibility of Fulton to win the fight, now it's
almost the fight day for Donaire, still the ML is sweet and @ 1.61 and over 10.5 @ 2.43, if you are a fan and you are unsure
if Donaire may or may not KO his opponent, those two options may suit you.

[LUCKMCFLY]

So we might listen to their predictions and what not and analysis. But as bettor I think we should know better and bet on the boxer that we think we should win the fight base on our own analysis. But with Donaire vs Santiago, I will go with the popular opinion that Donaire will beat Santiago and win the WBC bantamweight again.

Donaire could be wrong because, in the first place, he was mistaken when he believed he could beat Inoue. He was defeated twice, and that's a statement that Inoue is truly unbeatable. I'm not sure what the basis of his prediction is, but if it's solely because Inoue has moved up to a heavier weight, I doubt that's significant enough to affect his chances.

That's his personal opinion, though. Despite that, people may not change their minds and would still bet on Inoue. Let's just follow the trend since Inoue is one of the most popular boxers in the world; a loss would be detrimental to his career. So, let's consider that we are betting on his future, and we can be sure that our money is worth it, regardless of the outcome.

Adding that he's also fighting in front of his own crowd, Japanese culture is also important for them and I'm sure there's
a weight on it and Inoue will do everything not to be embarrassed in front of those Japanese fans'.

Nothing will change on my opinion if you are betting for Inoue, A word from a former opponent, can't vouch a possible outcome of the fight.

Inoue will be tested and by knowing him, always love to accept the challenge and excel from the expectations.

Inoue is the kind of boxing who loves to fight strong boxers that can challenge him to evolve more than what he is right now and maybe that is why he is called a monster in the first place. Also, I think it will be hard to go against him because we saw him numerous times that he can really improvise to keep up with his opponents and in the mid rounds, he is giving more than what his opponent is giving which is also part of the reason why he is upsetting the favorites that he fought when he was still making his name.

I really can't deny what you're saying, because here Inoue represents the typical boxer who wants to exceed his limits and as he is, I think he loves the sport and is willing to do whatever it takes to be the best of all time, I don't know if I'm exaggerating, but the things that he has done, no boxer does, and he does them with great mastery, so this highlights things.

Every boxer has his limits and knows his abilities, but really when I see Inoue in the ring, I think he has not even used 50% of his ability, that is why he demands a lot, when going up in category, because he could be affected, because he has to get used to his body, let's see how he does with Fulton.

LOL, how this turn out to be Inoue vs Fulton thread? Stay on the topic guys, this thread is about Donaire vs Santiago fight.

And with that, this fight is just a few more days, so let's start betting if you haven't done so. I have Donaire here to win by knockout. Odds are very good at 2.95 so my money goes with that.

I'm thinking that Donaire can still pull the trigger and doesn't want this fight to go over to 12 rounds as he might get tired. So it's better for him to start hard like his previous fight and aim for a KO/TKO.

Hehe I think that it was just an honest mistake because Inoue's name has been always involved whenever we're talking about Nonito Donaire specially after he gave his speculations towards the Inoue vs Fulton fight because surprisingly, Donaire made his own prediction and sided with Stephen Fulton despite the fact that he was defeated twice by Inoue.

Anyway, I already pushed my bets on this fight, and I got Donaire to win via KO as well because to be honest, the moneyline wasn't that tempting.

And it turns that Donaire was wrong as Inoue beats Fulton via TKO.

We can go back to the topic now and forget about what Donaire said about the possibility of Fulton to win the fight, now it's
almost the fight day for Donaire, still the ML is sweet and @ 1.61 and over 10.5 @ 2.43, if you are a fan and you are unsure
if Donaire may or may not KO his opponent, those two options may suit you.

It is very true, now Donaire is better to stay as a boxer and not as a predictor of results, he has to update himself a little more in the capacities of each boxer, personally I think that Nonito should focus very well on his fight, I really don't know if there will be a KO in Nonito's fight, but here the most likely thing is that if Nnoito wants to excel he has to give everything, and he has had a very good time to train, I always I have believed that a boxer wins his penis not in the ring, but in training, that is where it is decided who is the best, they can do and say a lot about the rest, but when they give details of the training it is a plus that should be used to the maximum.

Regarding Nonito's possible fights, it is very good to think that if he manages to win this one, the paths will open up for him in an impressive way, I hope so, I like this boxer.

One of the things I have noticed is that in boxing they are not taking veteran boxers very much into consideration, even though they are very necessary in fights, now I know that there are many young people, but nothing like those from the old school, I am a fan of boxing where I like to see a well-seasoned fight, with almost no technical details, because the technical details make a fight look somewhat boring, however this is valid.

A interesting article:

Nonito Donaire: Still Going Strong

he boxing legend is out to capture yet another world title when he battles Mexico’s Alexandro Santiago Saturday night on the Spence-Crawford blockbuster card, live on SHOWTIME Pay-Per-View.

As if any another reason was needed to hit the “Order Now” button this Saturday, July 29, future Hall of Famer Nonito Donaire will be in a battle for the vacant WBC Bantamweight World Championship. That night, on the undercard of the highly anticipated undisputed welterweight championship showdown Errol Spence Jr. and Terence Crawford, Donaire, the popular Filipino star, faces rugged Mexican contender Alexandro Santiago live on SHOWTIME Pay-Per-View (8 p.m. ET/5 p.m. PT) from T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas.

“I’m coming to take that belt home and there’s no second option for me,” said Donaire, who has been a champion longer than Santiago has been a pro. The number of championship matches he has been in nearly matches the total number of fights that Santiago has been in.

While Donaire was facing off against legends like Naoya Inoue and Carl Frampton, Santiago was fighting in Tijuana bars on cards that featured no ten rounders. But he’s not taking Santiago lightly.

“I’ve brought in some really fast fighters who have helped me prepare, and my team has really focused on giving me some defensive pointers,” said Donaire. “I can’t wait to get in there.”

Santiago, an aggressive fighter who can slip and counter with the best, shares Donaire’s enthusiasm. The last time he fought for a title, against Jerwin Ancajas for the IBF Super Flyweight title in 2018, the judges could not decide on a winner. Since that split-decision draw, his hunger has grown.

“He’s about to be a father,” one of his trainers, Romulo “Bobby” Quirarte Jr. told the Mexican press last month. “He’s been patient,” he added. “He’s worked a long time.”

Source: https://www.saddoboxing.com/63522-nonito-donaire-still-going-strong.html

[harizen]

It is very true, now Donaire is better to stay as a boxer and not as a predictor of results, he has to update himself a little more in the capacities of each boxer,

We should not take Donaire's prediction on the fight between Inoue and Fulton as a big deal. It's not that he is a predictor right away lol.

It just makes sense to ask him what will be his prediction because somehow, he and Inoue has a rival experience. It's not that Donaire is predicting the fight regularly. Obviously, as a former rival of Inoue, he was asked to give his prediction and that's it - no strings attached.

Anyways, Inoue won an impressive Knock Out win. Case close about Donaire's prediction.

[Yaunfitda]

It is very true, now Donaire is better to stay as a boxer and not as a predictor of results, he has to update himself a little more in the capacities of each boxer,

We should not take Donaire's prediction on the fight between Inoue and Fulton as a big deal. It's not that he is a predictor right away lol.

It just makes sense to ask him what will be his prediction because somehow, he and Inoue has a rival experience. It's not that Donaire is predicting the fight regularly. Obviously, as a former rival of Inoue, he was asked to give his prediction and that's it - no strings attached.

Anyways, Inoue won an impressive Knock Out win. Case close about Donaire's prediction.

Yeah, it's done already, and I would say that Inoue is pound for pound for that performance against the best 122 lbs, (sorry for the fans of Marlon Tapales). He just defeated and take the 0 of Fulton sending him back to the US without his belt.

Now, as fans we still have two great fights in the calendar his weekends, and this is one of them. So far fans still fancy that Inoue will win here, might be by KO or judges decision as he has the tools to beat Santiago even if he is way over the age of usual boxers in their prime. And so his predictions doesn't have any weight or factor now.

[coin-investor]

If Nonito wins the championship his next target is to be the undisputed Bantamweight Champion, based on the interview with Tai Lopez Donaire will go on until he becomes the next champion because this is the only thing missing in his career, to become the undisputed champion, so if he wins here he will push for a unification of the title I hope he can still do it at his age, we'll see if father time is still not diminished his power.


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[Dave1]

If Nonito wins the championship his next target is to be the undisputed Bantamweight Champion, based on the interview with Tai Lopez Donaire will go on until he becomes the next champion because this is the only thing missing in his career, to become the undisputed champion, so if he wins here he will push for a unification of the title I hope he can still do it at his age, we'll see if father time is still not diminished his power.


https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=648002447275450

Hopefully he can accomplished it if he wins here, but one of the stumbling block is that Moloney is with Top Rank and remember that he used to be the number 1 rank fighter in wBC, so it should be Donaire vs Moloney. But Moloney and his camp jump ship to WBO because maybe he doesn't want to fight Inoue that time, or Top Rank's Bob Arum refusing to work with Probellum (Donaire's previous promotional management). So we will see if Donaire camp's didn't take that personally and decline a fight with Moloney because of that reason.

[Yaunfitda]

If Nonito wins the championship his next target is to be the undisputed Bantamweight Champion, based on the interview with Tai Lopez Donaire will go on until he becomes the next champion because this is the only thing missing in his career, to become the undisputed champion, so if he wins here he will push for a unification of the title I hope he can still do it at his age, we'll see if father time is still not diminished his power.


https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=648002447275450

Hopefully he can accomplished it if he wins here, but one of the stumbling block is that Moloney is with Top Rank and remember that he used to be the number 1 rank fighter in wBC, so it should be Donaire vs Moloney. But Moloney and his camp jump ship to WBO because maybe he doesn't want to fight Inoue that time, or Top Rank's Bob Arum refusing to work with Probellum (Donaire's previous promotional management). So we will see if Donaire camp's didn't take that personally and decline a fight with Moloney because of that reason.

Donaire is no longer with Probellum as that management has been dissolved already because of the allegations that they are tied to the Irish Mafia. And Donaire is one of those fighters who Richard Schaeffer got and he will be the one promoting Donaire himself (of course with Rachel Donaire's blessing).

And with that, I think they can bury the hatch and Arum and Schaeffer has work before even when Richard is still with Golden Boy Promotions. So if Donaire wins then he can fight Moloney for a 2 belt unification next.

[Kasabus]

If Nonito wins the championship his next target is to be the undisputed Bantamweight Champion, based on the interview with Tai Lopez Donaire will go on until he becomes the next champion because this is the only thing missing in his career, to become the undisputed champion, so if he wins here he will push for a unification of the title I hope he can still do it at his age, we'll see if father time is still not diminished his power.


https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=648002447275450

It's technically not that impossible to do if he really wanted to cement his legacy and be the next undisputed champion in the bantamweight division. But before all of that, he should know and consider some things first like as he age, some factors might change because his body will start to decline specially at his age now where he is not that young anymore. I'd say that he should focus on his upcoming fight first because the outcome will be an indication what to do next.

[TravelMug]

If Nonito wins the championship his next target is to be the undisputed Bantamweight Champion, based on the interview with Tai Lopez Donaire will go on until he becomes the next champion because this is the only thing missing in his career, to become the undisputed champion, so if he wins here he will push for a unification of the title I hope he can still do it at his age, we'll see if father time is still not diminished his power.


https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=648002447275450

It's technically not that impossible to do if he really wanted to cement his legacy and be the next undisputed champion in the bantamweight division. But before all of that, he should know and consider some things first like as he age, some factors might change because his body will start to decline specially at his age now where he is not that young anymore. I'd say that he should focus on his upcoming fight first because the outcome will be an indication what to do next.

I think he should not be overlooking Santiago, in fact that's what I read from Nonito, he wanted to win this fight first before they talk about who's next for him. In the face-off, Donaire is the taller guy so that is a plus for him.

Having height advantage throughout his career, we have seen him knocking people out from Darchy to Ouballi before his reign was cut by Inoue. But now Donaire wanted to proved again that he can become a champion. So this is a step for him before we talk about him fighting for undisputed next.

[Westinhome]

I think he should not be overlooking Santiago, in fact that's what I read from Nonito, he wanted to win this fight first before they talk about who's next for him. In the face-off, Donaire is the taller guy so that is a plus for him.

Having height advantage throughout his career, we have seen him knocking people out from Darchy to Ouballi before his reign was cut by Inoue. But now Donaire wanted to proved again that he can become a champion. So this is a step for him before we talk about him fighting for undisputed next.

Nonito was most taller, So he get more range as compared to other people.The shorter boxer will be easy for the Nonito, he can crush the short boxer using his hand power.In addition he had a power punch compared to the Santiago.Santiago had win many old experience boxer using his power arm.This fight will against the two power arm fighter.So the game winner will be the maximum punch player.The Nonito should win the game against the Santiago to prove his power against the most powerful player.This will make them to prove his power and make other to think about the match, even this help the Nonito to get the championship.

[Questat]

I think he should not be overlooking Santiago, in fact that's what I read from Nonito, he wanted to win this fight first before they talk about who's next for him. In the face-off, Donaire is the taller guy so that is a plus for him.

Having height advantage throughout his career, we have seen him knocking people out from Darchy to Ouballi before his reign was cut by Inoue. But now Donaire wanted to proved again that he can become a champion. So this is a step for him before we talk about him fighting for undisputed next.

Nonito was most taller, So he get more range as compared to other people.The shorter boxer will be easy for the Nonito, he can crush the short boxer using his hand power.In addition he had a power punch compared to the Santiago.Santiago had win many old experience boxer using his power arm.This fight will against the two power arm fighter.So the game winner will be the maximum punch player.The Nonito should win the game against the Santiago to prove his power against the most powerful player.This will make them to prove his power and make other to think about the match, even this help the Nonito to get the championship.

Probably the only short boxer who beat Donaire was Inoue. But against the rest, he will likely dominate them in the fight. However, he does have some weaknesses, and one of them is probably his age. As we all know, when a boxer is getting older, his strength will also be affected. Nevertheless, since Alejandro Santiago does not have a special talent like Inoue, I believe Donaire can handle that and will be able to win the championship again.