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November 08, 2023, 09:33:51 PM
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Some casinos do not explain KYC and detailed requirements for withdrawals, so some users will be surprised if the withdrawal requirements must be KYC verified and the withdrawal value limits are high, this condition occurs in scam casinos because the casino team deliberately makes rules that make it difficult for users and the casino team will take over the account you to withdraw your funds, so make sure you register an account with a trusted reputable casino so that you don't worry about misuse of KYC data because they have a license that can be accounted for to monitor activities at that casino.
Shouldn't that be the casino's responsibility to tell the players that if they're planning to cash out, that they're going to have to follow their KYC policy? Plus, isn't it the best time if the casinos grow up too in terms of advertising? Lying about their operations can only work so long and with more people knowing how to think for themselves, deceptive advertising days should be numbered because there's a lot of option out there to choose from when it comes to honesty in casino so it's not incentivized in the long-term if you engage in that kind of advertising.

Each casino may have their own way of making such an information, some do not need to keep repeating on it or set a reminder about it when they already have stated such on their ToS, at least for an average gambler who understands his way should know that kyc gambling casinos will definitely demand for them going through the process at anytime, not asking at the point of registration isn't a barrier, if there's also a change in it, they would have communicated such through our contact or display such on the profile as information.

All of the key information are in ToS. It is just the customer or the gambler who is not reading it. It is not the casinos duty to keep reminding the gambler to do KYC as upon registration it was already stated on their ToS and the problem with that is we didn't read it. It is better to skim through it or head over to the FAQ section as mostly you can find an answer on it. I wouldn't call it also false advertising as it was just a marketing material to attract new gamblers and it ain't stated that it is a completely KYC-free, mostly in the registration that you can register without doing a KYC-right-a-way.

So with all these, we should see that it could be so annoying seing a gambler not going through the ToS of a gambling platform before their gambling experience with them, how will they know what they are yet to make discovery of, some things would have been best avoided if we would have known earlier the procedures to prevent them from happening, taking dome minutes to reads wouldn't cost anything but not doing so may lead to violation which will attract consequences.



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November 08, 2023, 09:45:02 PM
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Some casinos do not explain KYC and detailed requirements for withdrawals, so some users will be surprised if the withdrawal requirements must be KYC verified and the withdrawal value limits are high, this condition occurs in scam casinos because the casino team deliberately makes rules that make it difficult for users and the casino team will take over the account you to withdraw your funds, so make sure you register an account with a trusted reputable casino so that you don't worry about misuse of KYC data because they have a license that can be accounted for to monitor activities at that casino.
Shouldn't that be the casino's responsibility to tell the players that if they're planning to cash out, that they're going to have to follow their KYC policy? Plus, isn't it the best time if the casinos grow up too in terms of advertising? Lying about their operations can only work so long and with more people knowing how to think for themselves, deceptive advertising days should be numbered because there's a lot of option out there to choose from when it comes to honesty in casino so it's not incentivized in the long-term if you engage in that kind of advertising.

Each casino may have their own way of making such an information, some do not need to keep repeating on it or set a reminder about it when they already have stated such on their ToS, at least for an average gambler who understands his way should know that kyc gambling casinos will definitely demand for them going through the process at anytime, not asking at the point of registration isn't a barrier, if there's also a change in it, they would have communicated such through our contact or display such on the profile as information.

All of the key information are in ToS. It is just the customer or the gambler who is not reading it. It is not the casinos duty to keep reminding the gambler to do KYC as upon registration it was already stated on their ToS and the problem with that is we didn't read it. It is better to skim through it or head over to the FAQ section as mostly you can find an answer on it. I wouldn't call it also false advertising as it was just a marketing material to attract new gamblers and it ain't stated that it is a completely KYC-free, mostly in the registration that you can register without doing a KYC-right-a-way.

So with all these, we should see that it could be so annoying seing a gambler not going through the ToS of a gambling platform before their gambling experience with them, how will they know what they are yet to make discovery of, some things would have been best avoided if we would have known earlier the procedures to prevent them from happening, taking dome minutes to reads wouldn't cost anything but not doing so may lead to violation which will attract consequences.
Gambler would really be just that only be checking out those terms and conditions on the time that they would really be experiencing some problems on which they might have been able to
completely avoid it out if they had really just that put up some time for them to read up those terms and able to save up their @ss on such potential problem. There would really be some exemptions
on such situation basing up on the reputation of a certain casino.If you've been dealing on a new site or havent established reputation then dont get shocked if you have dealt with a scammy one
but if you are really that dealing with an old and reputable or known one then expect that you dont really have a fight for that once they would be throwing those violations
that you had committed.

KYC? Sounds to be standard nowadays although it wont be necessary or on point but once you do able to hit up those threshold then
this is the perfect time that they would be asking out things.

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November 08, 2023, 10:01:07 PM
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Some casinos do not explain KYC and detailed requirements for withdrawals, so some users will be surprised if the withdrawal requirements must be KYC verified and the withdrawal value limits are high, this condition occurs in scam casinos because the casino team deliberately makes rules that make it difficult for users and the casino team will take over the account you to withdraw your funds, so make sure you register an account with a trusted reputable casino so that you don't worry about misuse of KYC data because they have a license that can be accounted for to monitor activities at that casino.
Shouldn't that be the casino's responsibility to tell the players that if they're planning to cash out, that they're going to have to follow their KYC policy? Plus, isn't it the best time if the casinos grow up too in terms of advertising? Lying about their operations can only work so long and with more people knowing how to think for themselves, deceptive advertising days should be numbered because there's a lot of option out there to choose from when it comes to honesty in casino so it's not incentivized in the long-term if you engage in that kind of advertising.

Each casino may have their own way of making such an information, some do not need to keep repeating on it or set a reminder about it when they already have stated such on their ToS, at least for an average gambler who understands his way should know that kyc gambling casinos will definitely demand for them going through the process at anytime, not asking at the point of registration isn't a barrier, if there's also a change in it, they would have communicated such through our contact or display such on the profile as information.

All of the key information are in ToS. It is just the customer or the gambler who is not reading it. It is not the casinos duty to keep reminding the gambler to do KYC as upon registration it was already stated on their ToS and the problem with that is we didn't read it. It is better to skim through it or head over to the FAQ section as mostly you can find an answer on it. I wouldn't call it also false advertising as it was just a marketing material to attract new gamblers and it ain't stated that it is a completely KYC-free, mostly in the registration that you can register without doing a KYC-right-a-way.

So with all these, we should see that it could be so annoying seing a gambler not going through the ToS of a gambling platform before their gambling experience with them, how will they know what they are yet to make discovery of, some things would have been best avoided if we would have known earlier the procedures to prevent them from happening, taking dome minutes to reads wouldn't cost anything but not doing so may lead to violation which will attract consequences.
Gambler would really be just that only be checking out those terms and conditions on the time that they would really be experiencing some problems on which they might have been able to
completely avoid it out if they had really just that put up some time for them to read up those terms and able to save up their @ss on such potential problem. There would really be some exemptions
on such situation basing up on the reputation of a certain casino.If you've been dealing on a new site or havent established reputation then dont get shocked if you have dealt with a scammy one
but if you are really that dealing with an old and reputable or known one then expect that you dont really have a fight for that once they would be throwing those violations
that you had committed.

KYC? Sounds to be standard nowadays although it wont be necessary or on point but once you do able to hit up those threshold then
this is the perfect time that they would be asking out things.

How do terms differ between casinos. If you've read one then you've read them all.
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November 09, 2023, 05:14:35 AM
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KYC request for withdrawals is a common practice. The casino is interested in making as much money as possible - so deposits are usually subject to minimum requirements, but no one likes to part with their money. This is a fact
Lol, it's true, not only casinos, but all platforms are alike in this matter. When you create an account on an exchange, you might not be able to make trades or withdrawals, but you will be allowed to make deposits before completing KYC verification, maybe it's not the case with some but with most of them, the rules are like that. It's because they know they are not going to give anything away when someone is making a deposit, they might even leave it idle inside the platform if they couldn't verify their identity later on.

Some casinos don't ask for KYC verification even for withdrawals as long as the amount isn't very large or the gambler isn't suspected of doing something wrong. They will allow withdrawals without any problem if things are completely okay and normal from the gambler's end and they are trying to withdraw a relatively small amount compared to what they've deposited.

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November 09, 2023, 08:19:18 AM
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If you say it's not fair then I will point this at you and say its your ignorance to accept the terms and conditions without knowing what you are accepting. And its pretty much the same at every casino and it is very rare that you will be asked for verification to deposit funds.

If you still feel their terms are unfair then you are free to choose the casino that has terms in your best interest. By the way, this is just something created out of frustration arising when you violated their TOS, and now funds are on hold by the casino while waiting for verification in the future don't repeat the same mistake and if you are from a restricted country then take some time to find which casinos are accepting players from your region and you can seek help on bitcointalk too for some valuable feedbacks.

But I think that in general it’s probably better to first read reviews about a specific casino that you are unfamiliar with on our forum.  It’s just that here in the “Gambling" section you will definitely find a topic for almost any large casino and in this topic there are reviews and recommendations frm experienced players. Sometimes you can even find separate descriptions of controversial issues that other players have had before. So this approach to the issue of changing casinos seems to me  quite optimal from the point of view of finding out the real situations that the player faces.
 This is very useful to do even before the moment when you start sending your money for a deposit to a new casino for you in which you have not played before.
Asking for verification is pretty much common practice on all the crypto casinos if I am not wrong so this won't be really surprising unless the person actually new to the crypto gambling platform and probably trying the first withdrawal of his life. In that case, exploring the bitcointalk won't give the person a solution because we used to know what are the common practices in casinos. So don't skip the terms that you are supposed to read and don't blame the casino if you violated some of the terms without actually knowing.

But it seems to me that even if the player is completely inexperienced, then even in this case, reading the texts of the posts in the topic about the casino he is interested in here on our forum will still give the person very useful information. 

Of course, if, as you read, terms and concepts arise that a person without experience in the gambling industry does not know, then their meaning can always be approximately found out by reading thhe basics of the gambling business, for example, on Wikipedia.  For example, the Martingale strategy, if you come across it in the text of some post, then just open the corresponding description on Wikipedia. 
If the person studying the posts is not completely stupid, then he will be able to understand in general what nuances may arise when playing specifically in the casino that interests him and whose topic he is reading here on our forum. 
So I consider this kind of reading of topics in BTT generally useful for everyone interested in a variety of casinos, of which there are many.  And this is suitable for both experienced players and those who are just starting their exciting journey into the world of gambling, into the world of modern casinos.
There is no doubt about it, I think the same, in fact before a Person plays in an Online casino, they should come to the forum so that they can do something here, and they can generate some information and not leave with so many Empty Things or with so much ignorance, because it is better to Learn before, so in this order of ideas, many of us have come Across sites like this, because when we make a deposit that after having played we have profits and When we go to withdraw they ask us for the KYUC, which is very annoying, so when we Assume that no Way, it has to be Done in Order to withdraw the money, then we find that the KYC is not confirmed at once, but rather it is very manual so that they can trust it and Declare it as successful , so that is something that bothers much more, sometimes they last days, up to a week I have seen, But Based on all this, we can do many things if we are in a situation that we like, that we Decide that we are going to like it. that it be our frequent casino, and that it may possibly become one of our favorites, after doing the pertinent research, since a KYC must be done Before making any deposit, to Avoid having bad times, because if Nothing has been deposited, this requires to the casino that must Confirm it and mark it as successful, because no money has yet been left there.

And that is a strategy, but of course, it only applies when a casino in particular wants to make it frequent, it is not the case with all casinos because they take them to do that, because it is not the idea either, just as this could be done and the casino is in the moral obligation to quickly accept their KYC so that they can make a good deposit, then things change but once the person does other things, first they start to see that the deposit and then the KYC at the time of withdrawing, many players If they don't expect it, they gamble out of Rage and even lose Everything , it is Beneficial for the Casino, but they Say Goodbye to a Potential Client.


Well, of course, it is clear that if a player lost all his money won in a casino simply because the casino did not consider the information that this player provided as part of the KYC procedure to be reliable, then such a player will never return to play in this casino again.  Indeed, such a client is forever lost for this casino. 
And yet, if this player communicates with other players, then information about his resentment towards this casino due to lost income from fair winnings will certainly spread, which will also begin to negatively affect the reputation of the casino. 

It has been said many times that sometimes an inexperienced player who has cryptocurrency thinks that if he wins, the casino will send him the winnings in cryptocurrency anonymously and will not ask for anything in return. 
However, KYC has become very widespread and, of course, often spoils the good mood that the player has won. 
By the way, this is a problem in the gambling business and it significantly spoils the user experience of the entire gambling industry. 
The players themselves who use cryptocurrencies do not need it at all, as I believe. 
But it only irritates and wastes the player’s time.  And it can also provoke a leak of personal data of players due to constant cases of database theft.

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Well, of course, it is clear that if a player lost all his money won in a casino simply because the casino did not consider the information that this player provided as part of the KYC procedure to be reliable, then such a player will never return to play in this casino again.  Indeed, such a client is forever lost for this casino. 
And yet, if this player communicates with other players, then information about his resentment towards this casino due to lost income from fair winnings will certainly spread, which will also begin to negatively affect the reputation of the casino. 

It has been said many times that sometimes an inexperienced player who has cryptocurrency thinks that if he wins, the casino will send him the winnings in cryptocurrency anonymously and will not ask for anything in return. 
However, KYC has become very widespread and, of course, often spoils the good mood that the player has won. 
By the way, this is a problem in the gambling business and it significantly spoils the user experience of the entire gambling industry. 
The players themselves who use cryptocurrencies do not need it at all, as I believe. 
But it only irritates and wastes the player’s time.  And it can also provoke a leak of personal data of players due to constant cases of database theft.
Casinos must walk a line between KYC and client pleasure. A multidimensional issue, strict KYC requirements may discourage players. And while strict KYC protects the casino's integrity and the player's wins, it can backfire, causing annoyance and resentment when players believe their privacy has been violated or winnings are unfairly held.

However, data breaches are always a concern. As a casino accumulates more data, it becomes a bigger target for identity thieves. This is a real concern that can damage trust beyond a single player's experience. Casinos must protect player data and trust.

Word of mouth may create or ruin a casino's reputation in a reputation-driven industry. A single negative online experience might dissuade players and reduce user base. Casinos must know that KYC is required but must be implemented and communicated carefully. They need creative ways to speed this process and ensure compliance without affecting user experience. Following the rules is important, but so is embracing what makes cryptocurrency gambling so alluring.

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November 09, 2023, 02:30:28 PM
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Casinos must walk a line between KYC and client pleasure. A multidimensional issue, strict KYC requirements may discourage players. And while strict KYC protects the casino's integrity and the player's wins, it can backfire, causing annoyance and resentment when players believe their privacy has been violated or winnings are unfairly held.
what you say is true, even some players are sometimes unhappy with the KYC data verification time being too long. and it becomes a bad experience for the player, whether the process ultimately makes him a winner or not. but when an uncomfortable experience is felt it leaves a bad impression of the casino. and that could have an impact on players moving to other places to play.

Moreover, more gamblers also don't play at just one casino. maybe the most favorite one is, but when there are some problems it becomes uncomfortable. gamblers can leave the casino at any time and it becomes bad for the casino if members leave them.

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November 09, 2023, 04:07:33 PM
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Many gambler want to private and secure their personality exactly when joining gambling platform, as possibility try with gambling platform without required with KYC despite have some gambling platform have regulation current their gambling located must have pass KYC for all user. You right with some gambler have several casino site exactly when have casino update new rule with required KYC they will move to other casino site and leave the casino have completed rule.

I don't know with some casino rule exactly KYC process, have easily wat with document ID and take selfies as ruler for gambling platform KYC but some casino required until fourth level not only with document ID but also have post proof until need show Bank proof if want approved document KYC.

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November 09, 2023, 04:37:16 PM
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Many gambler want to private and secure their personality exactly when joining gambling platform, as possibility try with gambling platform without required with KYC despite have some gambling platform have regulation current their gambling located must have pass KYC for all user. You right with some gambler have several casino site exactly when have casino update new rule with required KYC they will move to other casino site and leave the casino have completed rule.

I don't know with some casino rule exactly KYC process, have easily wat with document ID and take selfies as ruler for gambling platform KYC but some casino required until fourth level not only with document ID but also have post proof until need show Bank proof if want approved document KYC.
In fact, gamblers can gamble without having to do KYC as long as they don't exceed the money limit for gambling. We see that many cases occur after they have won a lot of money. And some people deposit a lot of money, play gambling, and finally get their big win. This sparked curiosity in the casino, so they asked their users to complete KYC first before the casino would process the withdrawal.

For those who already know about these regulations, they will carry out KYC because they feel it is something that needs to be done. But those who don't want to do that will accuse the casino for various reasons even though they know that doing KYC is part of the casino regulations.

That's why if we don't want to do KYC, we also have to know how we should gamble. We don't need to gamble with a lot of money and only deposit as much money as we can afford. And with that limitation, we don't need to complete KYC even though we will be asked by casinos in the future. If you don't want to do KYC, you don't need to gamble at all. That is the choice.

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Well, of course, it is clear that if a player lost all his money won in a casino simply because the casino did not consider the information that this player provided as part of the KYC procedure to be reliable, then such a player will never return to play in this casino again.  Indeed, such a client is forever lost for this casino. 
And yet, if this player communicates with other players, then information about his resentment towards this casino due to lost income from fair winnings will certainly spread, which will also begin to negatively affect the reputation of the casino. 

It has been said many times that sometimes an inexperienced player who has cryptocurrency thinks that if he wins, the casino will send him the winnings in cryptocurrency anonymously and will not ask for anything in return. 
However, KYC has become very widespread and, of course, often spoils the good mood that the player has won. 
By the way, this is a problem in the gambling business and it significantly spoils the user experience of the entire gambling industry. 
The players themselves who use cryptocurrencies do not need it at all, as I believe. 
But it only irritates and wastes the player’s time.  And it can also provoke a leak of personal data of players due to constant cases of database theft.
Casinos must walk a line between KYC and client pleasure. A multidimensional issue, strict KYC requirements may discourage players. And while strict KYC protects the casino's integrity and the player's wins, it can backfire, causing annoyance and resentment when players believe their privacy has been violated or winnings are unfairly held.

However, data breaches are always a concern. As a casino accumulates more data, it becomes a bigger target for identity thieves. This is a real concern that can damage trust beyond a single player's experience. Casinos must protect player data and trust.

Word of mouth may create or ruin a casino's reputation in a reputation-driven industry. A single negative online experience might dissuade players and reduce user base. Casinos must know that KYC is required but must be implemented and communicated carefully. They need creative ways to speed this process and ensure compliance without affecting user experience. Following the rules is important, but so is embracing what makes cryptocurrency gambling so alluring.
And I believe that when a player uses cryptocurrencies, then KYC verification is not only unnecessary, but even harmful for several reasons, including the fear of theft of databases with personal information about players. 
KYC was invented by the American and global banking lobby practically for the purpose of total control over money transfers and the financial condition of citizens.  And of course, all kinds of regulators and government agencies supported and now constantly demand this same KYC from everyone.  Now, if you play in a crypto casino where there is no KYC, now your game is always overshadowed by the thought that if you win and want to receive this won cryptocurrency to your wallet, then you may be required to undergo verification using the KYC procedure.  Well, answer honestly, why the hell do you need this?  But you don’t need this extra process at all!  Is it true? 

In general, the conclusion is: the introduction of KYC in crypto-payments has ruined the entire crypto-casino business and made life more difficult for players.  And this procedure for crypto-payment should be cancelled.  This is of course difficult to do.  To do this, there must be a separate and bold jurisdiction that does not care what the bankers come up with and that would provide crypto casinos with the appropriate “No KYC” licenses.

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November 10, 2023, 07:05:24 PM
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some people deposit a lot of money, play gambling, and finally get their big win. This sparked curiosity in the casino, so they asked their users to complete KYC first before the casino would process the withdrawal.
Well, it barely has anything to do with curiosity but it's because they are compelled to do it. Casinos, even if they don't want to, have to ask users for KYC verification under certain circumstances due to regulatory pressure because the casinos are regulated and licensed and authorities governing them have imposed certain rules that they need to follow and KYC verification is one of them.

if we don't want to do KYC, we also have to know how we should gamble. We don't need to gamble with a lot of money and only deposit as much money as we can afford. And with that limitation, we don't need to complete KYC even though we will be asked by casinos in the future. If you don't want to do KYC, you don't need to gamble at all. That is the choice.
A gambler doesn't have a choice, there might be casinos that claim that they don't need KYC at all, but are they trustworthy? We don't know, and when you are not sure about the integrity of a platform, you can't use large amounts of money with them to gamble because when there is a lot of money involved, you are supposed to find and use only trusted and reputable services.

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November 10, 2023, 07:13:48 PM
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Now, if you play in a crypto casino where there is no KYC, now your game is always overshadowed by the thought that if you win and want to receive this won cryptocurrency to your wallet, then you may be required to undergo verification using the KYC procedure.  Well, answer honestly, why the hell do you need this?  But you don’t need this extra process at all!  Is it true? 

In general, the conclusion is: the introduction of KYC in crypto-payments has ruined the entire crypto-casino business and made life more difficult for players.  And this procedure for crypto-payment should be cancelled.  This is of course difficult to do.  To do this, there must be a separate and bold jurisdiction that does not care what the bankers come up with and that would provide crypto casinos with the appropriate “No KYC” licenses.

Your arguments seem valid but the problem is that we are in a world where these logic are not taken care of and no one is thinking on these terms of NO KYC casinos.
No matter if the crypto payments linked with the KYC have ruined the decentralized purpose to quite an extent but i do not see this discontinuing unless the decentralized platforms take over the centralized authorities.

The non-KYC casino are playing with the gamblers in two ways, first, they attract the gamblers to use their platform which is advertised to be a non-casino one and then if the players win something and try to withdraw, they scam them but not approving their KYCs.

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November 10, 2023, 08:02:41 PM
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Many gambler want to private and secure their personality exactly when joining gambling platform, as possibility try with gambling platform without required with KYC despite have some gambling platform have regulation current their gambling located must have pass KYC for all user. You right with some gambler have several casino site exactly when have casino update new rule with required KYC they will move to other casino site and leave the casino have completed rule.

I don't know with some casino rule exactly KYC process, have easily wat with document ID and take selfies as ruler for gambling platform KYC but some casino require until fourth level not only with document ID but also have post proof until need show Bank proof if want an approved document KYC.
The first thing that anyone should do before even creating an account on a casino is to first of all decide whether or not the casino requires you to make a KYC verification or not and this, is what we have to be rest assured and settled with before we go ahead with the account creation,.

In fact, the issue with KYC is a mandatory role for some citizens of some countries since they have a full gambling regulations,  and any of the citizens who want to gamble must be ready to hand out the ID verification
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November 10, 2023, 08:32:27 PM
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Gambler would really be just that only be checking out those terms and conditions on the time that they would really be experiencing some problems on which they might have been able to
completely avoid it out if they had really just that put up some time for them to read up those terms and able to save up their @ss on such potential problem. There would really be some exemptions
on such situation basing up on the reputation of a certain casino.If you've been dealing on a new site or havent established reputation then dont get shocked if you have dealt with a scammy one
but if you are really that dealing with an old and reputable or known one then expect that you dont really have a fight for that once they would be throwing those violations
that you had committed.

KYC? Sounds to be standard nowadays although it wont be necessary or on point but once you do able to hit up those threshold then
this is the perfect time that they would be asking out things.

How do terms differ between casinos. If you've read one then you've read them all.
How they do differ in speaking about their terms?
They could possible differ on ff;

1. Restricted countries
2. Way of KYC
3. Thresholds
4. Other different terms which it isnt present on other terms.

You should really know even on the slightest detail change. I do agree on some points that most of those terms and conditions are really just that
been copied to each other on which they would be assuming that it is really just that the same also with other sites as well,
this is why it would really be that normal on having that kind of belief in mind that it is really just a mimic.
Therefore, they would really be that skipping out on reading it and play without being that known about those terms in the first place
until they would be experiencing some problems.

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November 11, 2023, 12:04:50 AM
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In fact, the issue with KYC is a mandatory role for some citizens of some countries since they have a full gambling regulations,  and any of the citizens who want to gamble must be ready to hand out the ID verification
That is the main point if they want to play gambling. That is the same as they want to trade crypto, they have the KYC, whatever it is, and I think it's a must if we live in a country who have strict regulations. I ever met someone who failed KYC when to withdraw. it's just a problem in the photo ID, because it's not the same as he proof on camera. Because he take the ID photo 10 years ago, so that case different when he live on camera. This is the case is enough waste the time for me (because the casino asked me for help to proof that), I take the camera multiple time until I am really sure the photo and live camera is the same as him.

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In fact, the issue with KYC is a mandatory role for some citizens of some countries since they have a full gambling regulations,  and any of the citizens who want to gamble must be ready to hand out the ID verification
That is the main point if they want to play gambling. That is the same as they want to trade crypto, they have the KYC, whatever it is, and I think it's a must if we live in a country who have strict regulations. I ever met someone who failed KYC when to withdraw. it's just a problem in the photo ID, because it's not the same as he proof on camera. Because he take the ID photo 10 years ago, so that case different when he live on camera. This is the case is enough waste the time for me (because the casino asked me for help to proof that), I take the camera multiple time until I am really sure the photo and live camera is the same as him.


These are just small issues that can happen in many other areas as well. I remember when opening a new bank account that I had to verify myself via video and people from the bank weren't even in my country. The connection was so poor and the bank employee spoke very bad English, it took like 5 attempts to proof that I am really myself. 10 years is a long time between my latest passport and today, I have almost no more hair and gained almost 20 kg. Luckily I made a new passport and shouldn't have the same issues again. KYC is just part of the online space for me today. Casinos need to protect themselves as well and with KYC the industry has an argument to do something against the negative stigma of money laundering. As long as there are no global laws for gambling that makes every customer the same we need to accept different rules for different countries.
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November 11, 2023, 10:18:27 AM
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How they do differ in speaking about their terms?
They could possible differ on ff;

1. Restricted countries
2. Way of KYC
3. Thresholds
4. Other different terms which it isnt present on other terms.

s.
but it is not really about those reason instead their changing the terms once there is the withdrawals
, and the main issue here is the objective of those casinos and that is to take advantage of the players and how they are cheating
 them in chances that they might find ways to take their money out of obligation , they will be clean as
 clear water because of the requirements they are asking.

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How they do differ in speaking about their terms?
They could possible differ on ff;

1. Restricted countries
2. Way of KYC
3. Thresholds
4. Other different terms which it isnt present on other terms.

s.
but it is not really about those reason instead their changing the terms once there is the withdrawals
, and the main issue here is the objective of those casinos and that is to take advantage of the players and how they are cheating
 them in chances that they might find ways to take their money out of obligation , they will be clean as
 clear water because of the requirements they are asking.
One of the main things which it would really be making that hard for us to tell whether they are really that telling the truth or not.Once you do play on a site then make sure that you have
read up all the terms and conditions on which you could really be able to make yourself that know on what are those terms which its impossible that you wouldn't really avoid.
Its true that once they have thrown up those issues into you and you cant really be able to provide some counter just because you dont have that solid evidence or reasoning then
they would really be always be looking for them to be a clean one and dirty into those who had been accused. New thing? No its not!

Issues could really be thrown anytime on which means that you cant really be able to make reasoning if you cant present something. I agree into those points above that having some screenshot on their TOS?
If ever there would really be some changes then you could really be able to have that kind of counter. If you dont like to experience those kind of hassle
and headaches then it would be always better stick into reputable ones.

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November 11, 2023, 05:58:41 PM
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How they do differ in speaking about their terms?
They could possible differ on ff;

1. Restricted countries
2. Way of KYC
3. Thresholds
4. Other different terms which it isnt present on other terms.

s.
but it is not really about those reason instead their changing the terms once there is the withdrawals
, and the main issue here is the objective of those casinos and that is to take advantage of the players and how they are cheating
 them in chances that they might find ways to take their money out of obligation , they will be clean as
 clear water because of the requirements they are asking.
There is no way we can challenge the terms and conditions of a casino when the reason why we are there to make profits. Many gamblers don't have that time to be dragging a casino because they tend not to understand the terms and conditions of the casino. Even though we got lured to bet there without knowing what there terms and conditions really was, it all our fault since we have already started using the casino and also deposited our funds. The best thing we can do is to just ignore the casino and look for a better one that would help us make the kind of profits that we really want to be earning based on our strategies and skills.









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November 11, 2023, 10:32:23 PM
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How they do differ in speaking about their terms?
They could possible differ on ff;

1. Restricted countries
2. Way of KYC
3. Thresholds
4. Other different terms which it isnt present on other terms.

s.
but it is not really about those reason instead their changing the terms once there is the withdrawals
, and the main issue here is the objective of those casinos and that is to take advantage of the players and how they are cheating
 them in chances that they might find ways to take their money out of obligation , they will be clean as
 clear water because of the requirements they are asking.
There is no way we can challenge the terms and conditions of a casino when the reason why we are there to make profits. Many gamblers don't have that time to be dragging a casino because they tend not to understand the terms and conditions of the casino. Even though we got lured to bet there without knowing what there terms and conditions really was, it all our fault since we have already started using the casino and also deposited our funds. The best thing we can do is to just ignore the casino and look for a better one that would help us make the kind of profits that we really want to be earning based on our strategies and skills.
If you are pertaining about casinos then games then it doesnt really need up that skills and strategies but if we do speak about betting sites or something that connects out with sports betting
then this is where these things would be applicable or something that you could really be able to make use of. Whether which one you are really that involving neither of the sides but still
it would really be that always recommended that you should really know about their terms and conditions plus if you are really that too suspicious on things around then it
would really be that always recommended that you should really be just dealing up with those things which are known and reputable so that you wont really be that
wasting up your time on thinking about having no fair kind of results or outcomes or something that you had been that suspicious.
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