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November 15, 2023, 10:08:58 AM |
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OP You should have read the terms and conditions of the casino or gambling site before creating an account. Many accounts do not require KYC, but some casinos or gambling sites do not require KYC when withdrawing dollars from the account, but when withdrawing more than a certain amount of dollars, KYC is required. However, doing KYC is definitely an extra security because doing KYC reduces the chances of serious malpractices like money laundering, fraud, and fraud.
Perhaps that is the OP's point, I mean when you deposit you are not being asked for KYC but suddenly when you win big and taking money from casino's suddenly they will ask for a KYC? But I think there are casinos now that before your register, they will tell you that there is a big possibility that they will be asking for personal documents and to KYC anyone, I think that will be the trend already. So the burden is to us gamblers, to read the TOS before signing to any casinos. And that could be the norm now, if we don't want to sign up and be KYC'd then do not do it, simply as that. There could be still casinos that don't require KYC before we can play or at least you need to missed some thresholds before they asked for it. Well, majorly every casino that is licensed and registered today are all compliant to kyc, and this is something I personally believe that every online gamblers should already get used to, as it was generally speculated that when government regulation starts hitting crypto, all this will happen, even crypto exchanges where customers used to comfortably withdraw money without kyc, now have to request kyc from customers, and customers must pass it before they can be able to withdraw. So, the issue with kyc is not something that is Peculiar to gambling casinos alone, it's something that cuts across, as long as money is involved. Anyways, the point op made is right, at least for myself, I tell for sure that even till now, there are still some gambling casinos where one can register, make a deposit, play and possibly win, all without issues, but the moment the gambler requests withdrawal, he or she will be restricted and asked to pass kyc verification. This is why it's very important for us all to always have our document ready just incase, anytime, we encounter such problem, it doesnt meet us unprepared and leave us confused as to how to get our money back.
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November 15, 2023, 10:43:14 AM |
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- The title that was made in this section seems silly; it has not been directly said that there is a kyc that is better to listen to or read than that which is just silly. Excuse me for the term.
But anyway, the important thing is to enjoy playing casino games on this platform. I hope you have some good gimmicks to give to your gambling communities here in the crypto space somehow to increase the number of players.
Actually, you don't need to think like this to the OP, because he only gave a few topics to discuss in the crypto community about how some cheating often appears on several gambling sites. There will always be a lot of gambling players because there are millions of people in this world who like it, but some online casino sites have evil tricks to trap gamblers who have made deposits, they require KYC when making a withdrawal but not when registering.
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November 15, 2023, 02:53:50 PM |
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OP You should have read the terms and conditions of the casino or gambling site before creating an account. Many accounts do not require KYC, but some casinos or gambling sites do not require KYC when withdrawing dollars from the account, but when withdrawing more than a certain amount of dollars, KYC is required. However, doing KYC is definitely an extra security because doing KYC reduces the chances of serious malpractices like money laundering, fraud, and fraud.
Most people look for shortcuts to everything, and this is the reason why most gamblers avoid the terms and conditions when registering in a new casino platform because we all know that terms and conditions are not just two lines or paragraphs but they are pretty long, regardless, they are very much important for a gambler or a customer of the service being provided because if a customer faces an issue while using the services, they can remember if they have read about it in the terms and conditions and they can ask the customer service representatives to solve the issue according to that. But gamblers simply don't care, until a time comes when they actually face some issue and then they are told that this thing is mentioned in the terms and conditions but the gambler isn't aware because they didn't even read them. This also happens with KYC rules with most casino platforms.
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November 15, 2023, 04:55:18 PM |
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OP You should have read the terms and conditions of the casino or gambling site before creating an account. Many accounts do not require KYC, but some casinos or gambling sites do not require KYC when withdrawing dollars from the account, but when withdrawing more than a certain amount of dollars, KYC is required. However, doing KYC is definitely an extra security because doing KYC reduces the chances of serious malpractices like money laundering, fraud, and fraud.
Most people look for shortcuts to everything, and this is the reason why most gamblers avoid the terms and conditions when registering in a new casino platform because we all know that terms and conditions are not just two lines or paragraphs but they are pretty long, regardless, they are very much important for a gambler or a customer of the service being provided because if a customer faces an issue while using the services, they can remember if they have read about it in the terms and conditions and they can ask the customer service representatives to solve the issue according to that. But gamblers simply don't care, until a time comes when they actually face some issue and then they are told that this thing is mentioned in the terms and conditions but the gambler isn't aware because they didn't even read them. This also happens with KYC rules with most casino platforms. You're right about gamblers skimming the fine print. Isn't it fascinating? Casino terms and conditions are complex and vital, like the rules. Not merely legalese, they're a playbook for both sides. The business issue is risk management. Casinos set these terms to protect themselves and customers. Knowledge is powerful, especially when money is involved. Online bettors could better understand the complexity if they read them. However, casinos simplified their term. Imagine if they simplified the legalese into bullet points or made a video guide for the most important portions. Possible game-changer. Make important information accessible and appealing. Gamblers must read the terms, but casinos must make them readable. A little effort from both sides could reduce disagreements and improve gambling.
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November 15, 2023, 05:52:47 PM |
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Can you just imagine how many gamblers couldn't withdraw their winnings from casinos because they couldn't pass kyc and how much money those casino have earned due to this! To be honest, I've played on different casinos which state on their terms that they may ask for identity verification but none of them asked me to do so. I suppose I was lucky but we need to keep in mind that they may freeze our accounts at any moment and ask us to submit our documents.
You may be lucky or probably that the platform never really see the need for them to ask you for verification which is the reason they never do so. Most of the users who gets ask for KYC are those who did something against their policy or has suspicious activity. You may also imagine how many people gamble online even though it is illegal for them to do so. With the amount of countries restricting online gambling or even gambling as a whole, people from those countries still find a way to do so which is why these gambling platforms have earned significant amount just by following through gambling regulations and policies. I guess that big, reputable casinos don't need to take this kind of shady actions because their business model works very well with the high amount of users they have. On the contrary, I'm sire that scam casinos exists, websites that are simply a facade with beautiful UIs but with not enough users, that make money this way, using a trap. Of course, different regulations demand different actions, and sometimes it is legit to ask for KYC after and not before depositing funds (for instance, the guy who deposits little money but wins really big, and his national laws foresee mandatory identification below some threshold). But I don't think this is the case the OP wanted to talk about. So yes, shady casinos exist, and one should always read the T&Cs before depositing, being aware that even if conditions don't say a thing they are in control of his/her coins. So better go for the best known ones which have a minimal history of complaints from users. Yes, I agree with you, in fact when people enter a casino they know that sooner or later they have to give their KYC, because the problem begins once they win and cannot withdraw money , in fact that is transformed Something that makes some people very angry, because they feel that their money is being withheld at the expense of their identification, but the most important thing is that when the KYC is done in these cases the casino should have an alert notification, which is from a user who wants to make a withdrawal , so they must hurry to be Able to do that KYC or the confirmation of that KYC quickly, so in this order of things the casinos must do something quickly so that the clients do not have this type of annoying, because of the anger for some who pass the KYC, withdraw that money and then do not return to that casino , that for those who manage to withdraw that money and others who do not achieve it and what they do is play and risk the money, some lose it. So the casinos should currently be smarter, if they believe that people are left hanging in their casino due to the KYC requirement in the end, they should apply that at the time of deposit they explain that they recommend that the KYC must be done so that they do not have You have to wait a long time for the confirmation of KYC documents, because sometimes it usually takes some time, So if in a casino they take the initiative to explain or warn that it would be necessary, so that the hundreds do not say or go away, this is basically what we must do or well, the casinos must do, but nothing because I don't see any other way so they can do it ejro, We as Players always have the option, the hope of Winning in a casino , that is why these things are so delicate and you have to be tactful for the casinos to say it, that is, they must say it in a very subtle way so that the client agrees to do the job. KYC and don't feel uncomfortable doing it.
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November 21, 2023, 06:39:43 AM |
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- The title that was made in this section seems silly; it has not been directly said that there is a kyc that is better to listen to or read than that which is just silly. Excuse me for the term.
But anyway, the important thing is to enjoy playing casino games on this platform. I hope you have some good gimmicks to give to your gambling communities here in the crypto space somehow to increase the number of players.
Actually, you don't need to think like this to the OP, because he only gave a few topics to discuss in the crypto community about how some cheating often appears on several gambling sites. There will always be a lot of gambling players because there are millions of people in this world who like it, but some online casino sites have evil tricks to trap gamblers who have made deposits, they require KYC when making a withdrawal but not when registering. If you ever find yourself in such position it's your fault, you don't just open account on a platform and decide to start using it, make sure you first read through their terms and conditions, if you do you will come to where they will say that they may have to ask for KYC if the need arise or something similar, even if you can't read through the terms and conditions because you feel lazy doing it, why not ask their customer service about KYC verification just to be clear? If I am new to a casino I will first do my findings before I make deposit on the platform, but since I don't have any problem with KYC verification there is no need for doing this findings, I only have to make sure that the casino is not a scam, asking for KYC does not mean that the casino is cheating.
Even if you decide to register on a crypto exchange today, you won't be ask to pass KYC immediately, you are free to trade and withdraw on some crypto exchange, but with limited withdrawal every 24 hours, right now KYC can't be escaped in the financial world, it's either you get used to it or you stop gambling on online casinos.
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November 21, 2023, 07:41:56 AM |
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If you ever find yourself in such position it's your fault, you don't just open account on a platform and decide to start using it, make sure you first read through their terms and conditions, if you do you will come to where they will say that they may have to ask for KYC if the need arise or something similar, even if you can't read through the terms and conditions because you feel lazy doing it, why not ask their customer service about KYC verification just to be clear?
If I am new to a casino I will first do my findings before I make deposit on the platform, but since I don't have any problem with KYC verification there is no need for doing this findings, I only have to make sure that the casino is not a scam, asking for KYC does not mean that the casino is cheating.
Even if you decide to register on a crypto exchange today, you won't be ask to pass KYC immediately, you are free to trade and withdraw on some crypto exchange, but with limited withdrawal every 24 hours, right now KYC can't be escaped in the financial world, it's either you get used to it or you stop gambling on online casinos.
Not always. And there are lots of restrictions until you KYC. But you`re right - the casino can make you KYC any moment they choose. It is in ToS but the main part of the gamblers don`t read it. As the result we see such threads. It would be fair to KYC during the register. In such a way we willn`t have any problem with KYC during gambling and withdrawal our money, but it is not interesting for the casino, because a part of gamblers willn`t register with the KYC.
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michellee
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- The title that was made in this section seems silly; it has not been directly said that there is a kyc that is better to listen to or read than that which is just silly. Excuse me for the term.
But anyway, the important thing is to enjoy playing casino games on this platform. I hope you have some good gimmicks to give to your gambling communities here in the crypto space somehow to increase the number of players.
Actually, you don't need to think like this to the OP, because he only gave a few topics to discuss in the crypto community about how some cheating often appears on several gambling sites. There will always be a lot of gambling players because there are millions of people in this world who like it, but some online casino sites have evil tricks to trap gamblers who have made deposits, they require KYC when making a withdrawal but not when registering. That's why we do research before deciding to register at the casino. This is to avoid evil casinos that really want to trap gamblers. Those rogue casinos provide promotions that look too good to be true. It attracts the attention of gamblers who don't want to do further research. Those who are tempted will definitely immediately register at the casino and deposit the amount of money that is required to get the bonus. But suddenly, they were asked to carry out verification even though this was not mentioned at the start. This is where they then complain but unfortunately, no one can help. That's because the casino really wants to trap the gambler by taking all his money. There may still be many casinos like that where they don't ask for KYC but will ask it when the gambler wants to withdraw their money. This often happens, especially if you use a casino from outside this forum. So be careful if you find a casino from outside this forum. Always do research before deciding to sign up. But it's best to use the casinos on this forum to avoid bad things that could happen.
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Not always. And there are lots of restrictions until you KYC. But you`re right - the casino can make you KYC any moment they choose. It is in ToS but the main part of the gamblers don`t read it. As the result we see such threads. It would be fair to KYC during the register. In such a way we willn`t have any problem with KYC during gambling and withdrawal our money, but it is not interesting for the casino, because a part of gamblers willn`t register with the KYC.
There are some reasons why most of the casinos will not ask the user to KYC first before the user can start playing on their platform. 1. There are several stages of KYC, usually any suspicious user will get the annoying stage such as a selfie, source of income, source of funds, video call verification and other documents. I think we all can agree that nobody wants to do a complete KYC first before we can start playing. Any casino who demand a strict KYC since the beginning will close their service after operating for a few weeks, because nobody will play there. 2. KYC is a sensitive matter, checking documents need time, every users will have a different document depends on their nationality. And again, I think we all can agree that nobody wants to wait a few days/weeks before we can start playing. 3. To prevent abuse, some casinos are whitelisted users who already done with the KYC on their platform so their regular or loyal players wont have any major problem with the withdrawal. KYC any users since the beginning will make the abuser and cheater happy about that. And there are some more, but most of the casino wont ask KYC since the beginning, its a suicide move for them - it will makes people stay away from their platform. Note: any casino will always write on their T&C that they have the rights to ask user's to do a KYC anytime or when neccessary. However, some good casinos still not strict about these. We can depo, play and withdraw without any issue as long as we dont do any suspicious thing on their platform.
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Quidat
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November 21, 2023, 07:18:08 PM |
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- The title that was made in this section seems silly; it has not been directly said that there is a kyc that is better to listen to or read than that which is just silly. Excuse me for the term.
But anyway, the important thing is to enjoy playing casino games on this platform. I hope you have some good gimmicks to give to your gambling communities here in the crypto space somehow to increase the number of players.
Actually, you don't need to think like this to the OP, because he only gave a few topics to discuss in the crypto community about how some cheating often appears on several gambling sites. There will always be a lot of gambling players because there are millions of people in this world who like it, but some online casino sites have evil tricks to trap gamblers who have made deposits, they require KYC when making a withdrawal but not when registering. That's why we do research before deciding to register at the casino. This is to avoid evil casinos that really want to trap gamblers. Those rogue casinos provide promotions that look too good to be true. It attracts the attention of gamblers who don't want to do further research. Those who are tempted will definitely immediately register at the casino and deposit the amount of money that is required to get the bonus. But suddenly, they were asked to carry out verification even though this was not mentioned at the start. This is where they then complain but unfortunately, no one can help. That's because the casino really wants to trap the gambler by taking all his money. There may still be many casinos like that where they don't ask for KYC but will ask it when the gambler wants to withdraw their money. This often happens, especially if you use a casino from outside this forum. So be careful if you find a casino from outside this forum. Always do research before deciding to sign up. But it's best to use the casinos on this forum to avoid bad things that could happen. People would really be doing this on the time that they would really be able to experience some disaster but not really doing this before they would be making out some deposit. You would really be finding out yourself to realize something but its already too late. It is always been that recommendable that making up some research first before making such step considering that we do have tons of fake casinos or scam ones that currently existing on the market then it is really just that right that you should really be having this kind of approach on which it is really just that right that you should verify things first before making such step. You wont really be putting yourself on harm if you are really just that sensible on what you are doing.
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Dunamisx
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November 21, 2023, 09:01:51 PM |
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Maybe we should also have to consider ourselves in some cases whereby we are the ones in charge of the casinos, can't we also make the demand in using the effect of KYC on gamblers to ease the whole process with them in other to make them use your platform and register, invite others and started with something that can keep them tied to your platform to then later demand for their KYC.
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Wiwo
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November 21, 2023, 09:30:00 PM |
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would really be doing this on the time that they would really be able to experience some disaster but not really doing this before they would be making out some deposit. You would really be finding out yourself to realize something but its already too late. It is always been that recommendable that making up some research first before making such step considering that we do have tons of fake casinos or scam ones that currently existing on the market then it is really just that right that you should really be having this kind of approach on which it is really just that right that you should verify things first before making such step. You wont really be putting yourself on harm if you are really just that sensible on what you are doing.
Heah the first step to take as a gambler is to discover which casino to play on and being able to accept the fact that those casino are well granted licensing casino that allow for true transparency of their kyc process and being fair on their judgement on things that matters to all, because a lot of times, what causes the most problem os the way and manner at which those casinos aske for kyc and when they ask for it, some time they leave you to gamble until you make a winning and want to withdraw that is when you will be asked for kyc verification which sometime is suspension to most gamblers who may believe that the demand for the verification is a targeted attack on their person and some time that is what it is from some few none reputable casinos.
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November 21, 2023, 11:49:16 PM |
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would really be doing this on the time that they would really be able to experience some disaster but not really doing this before they would be making out some deposit. You would really be finding out yourself to realize something but its already too late. It is always been that recommendable that making up some research first before making such step considering that we do have tons of fake casinos or scam ones that currently existing on the market then it is really just that right that you should really be having this kind of approach on which it is really just that right that you should verify things first before making such step. You wont really be putting yourself on harm if you are really just that sensible on what you are doing.
Heah the first step to take as a gambler is to discover which casino to play on and being able to accept the fact that those casino are well granted licensing casino that allow for true transparency of their kyc process and being fair on their judgement on things that matters to all, because a lot of times, what causes the most problem os the way and manner at which those casinos aske for kyc and when they ask for it, some time they leave you to gamble until you make a winning and want to withdraw that is when you will be asked for kyc verification which sometime is suspension to most gamblers who may believe that the demand for the verification is a targeted attack on their person and some time that is what it is from some few none reputable casinos. License is something that people do really seek upon even if it means that possible KYC would be next in line rather than into those anonymous or non regulated on which it cant really be avoided that you would really be having doubts that they might really be running with the funds unlike into regulated ones on which you could at least have that peace of mind.
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Wiwo
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November 21, 2023, 11:58:08 PM |
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License is something that people do really seek upon even if it means that possible KYC would be next in line rather than into those anonymous or non regulated on which it cant really be avoided that you would really be having doubts that they might really be running with the funds unlike into regulated ones on which you could at least have that peace of mind.
Yes playing on a licensed casinos gives the gamblers more sense of safety compared to when playing on an unlicensed casino, this is because, most times those licensed casino have a physical office or can be traced through the liciesed authority fhat give the the approval to operate, this have been proven in many cases before, and having fhat ability to seek for redress have build another level of confidence in the gamblers so regardless of what kyc demand may come up, they will be ready to go. Through it instead of risking to play on an unlicensed casinos. Although we have some other set gamblers who may not want that to happen and to them, what is most important to them is to they privacy as their priority and being ready to accept any risk that may come along with that decisions.
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November 21, 2023, 11:59:38 PM Last edit: November 22, 2023, 12:17:59 AM by TimeTeller |
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License is something that people do really seek upon even if it means that possible KYC would be next in line rather than into those anonymous or non regulated on which it cant really be avoided that you would really be having doubts that they might really be running with the funds unlike into regulated ones on which you could at least have that peace of mind.
Yes playing on a licensed casinos gives the gamblers more sense of safety compared to when playing on an unlicensed casino, this is because, most times those licensed casino have a physical office or can be traced through the liciesed authority fhat give the the approval to operate, this have been proven in many cases before, and having fhat ability to seek for redress have build another level of confidence in the gamblers so regardless of what kyc demand may come up, they will be ready to go. Through it instead of risking to play on an unlicensed casinos. Although we have some other set gamblers who may not want that to happen and to them, what is most important to them is to they privacy as their priority and being ready to accept any risk that may come along with that decisions. Though very rare that we are reading or seeing that someone is running after a casino, having license is indeed a feature that can add credibility to their business. The approach have been changed as a lot of frauds or scams have been going on for years. And people are getting victimized by these people so one way to lessen such scenario is to look out for licensed casinos. It may not guarantee that the site will always treat their clients right, but it will be their reminder to keep their business out of trouble.
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michellee
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November 22, 2023, 04:02:33 AM |
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People would really be doing this on the time that they would really be able to experience some disaster but not really doing this before they would be making out some deposit. You would really be finding out yourself to realize something but its already too late. It is always been that recommendable that making up some research first before making such step considering that we do have tons of fake casinos or scam ones that currently existing on the market then it is really just that right that you should really be having this kind of approach on which it is really just that right that you should verify things first before making such step. You wont really be putting yourself on harm if you are really just that sensible on what you are doing. With the research we do, we can prevent us from choosing the wrong casino. We can avoid shady casinos that have cheated many people. Apart from that, we also save ourselves from shady casinos. We can do everything if we have experience being exposed to fraud from shady casinos. That will make us even more careful in looking for a casino that is suitable for us. And we will definitely advise other people always to be careful too. And by reading the reviews here, we will know which casinos ask for KYC before we can withdraw our money. If it were a trusted casino, we wouldn't worry. But if it is a shady casino, we should avoid it. Shady casinos will not care about their members even after they have done KYC.
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November 22, 2023, 07:17:03 AM |
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Not always. And there are lots of restrictions until you KYC. But you`re right - the casino can make you KYC any moment they choose. It is in ToS but the main part of the gamblers don`t read it. As the result we see such threads. It would be fair to KYC during the register. In such a way we willn`t have any problem with KYC during gambling and withdrawal our money, but it is not interesting for the casino, because a part of gamblers willn`t register with the KYC.
There are some reasons why most of the casinos will not ask the user to KYC first before the user can start playing on their platform. 1. There are several stages of KYC, usually any suspicious user will get the annoying stage such as a selfie, source of income, source of funds, video call verification and other documents. I think we all can agree that nobody wants to do a complete KYC first before we can start playing. Any casino who demand a strict KYC since the beginning will close their service after operating for a few weeks, because nobody will play there. 2. KYC is a sensitive matter, checking documents need time, every users will have a different document depends on their nationality. And again, I think we all can agree that nobody wants to wait a few days/weeks before we can start playing. 3. To prevent abuse, some casinos are whitelisted users who already done with the KYC on their platform so their regular or loyal players wont have any major problem with the withdrawal. KYC any users since the beginning will make the abuser and cheater happy about that. And there are some more, but most of the casino wont ask KYC since the beginning, its a suicide move for them - it will makes people stay away from their platform. Note: any casino will always write on their T&C that they have the rights to ask user's to do a KYC anytime or when neccessary. However, some good casinos still not strict about these. We can depo, play and withdraw without any issue as long as we dont do any suspicious thing on their platform. I know about these reasons and i don`t believe that casino will KYC all the gamblers at the start. But now imagine the situation: you want to withdraw money and you need it fast. And at this moment the casino decide to KYC you. And you have to search some documents, wait until the casino check it, etc. As for me it would be better to KYC during the registration. At least part of it - you can send documents and start gambling while the security check it.
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November 22, 2023, 07:39:43 AM |
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Not always. And there are lots of restrictions until you KYC. But you`re right - the casino can make you KYC any moment they choose. It is in ToS but the main part of the gamblers don`t read it. As the result we see such threads. It would be fair to KYC during the register. In such a way we willn`t have any problem with KYC during gambling and withdrawal our money, but it is not interesting for the casino, because a part of gamblers willn`t register with the KYC.
There are some reasons why most of the casinos will not ask the user to KYC first before the user can start playing on their platform. 1. There are several stages of KYC, usually any suspicious user will get the annoying stage such as a selfie, source of income, source of funds, video call verification and other documents. I think we all can agree that nobody wants to do a complete KYC first before we can start playing. Any casino who demand a strict KYC since the beginning will close their service after operating for a few weeks, because nobody will play there. 2. KYC is a sensitive matter, checking documents need time, every users will have a different document depends on their nationality. And again, I think we all can agree that nobody wants to wait a few days/weeks before we can start playing. 3. To prevent abuse, some casinos are whitelisted users who already done with the KYC on their platform so their regular or loyal players wont have any major problem with the withdrawal. KYC any users since the beginning will make the abuser and cheater happy about that. And there are some more, but most of the casino wont ask KYC since the beginning, its a suicide move for them - it will makes people stay away from their platform. Note: any casino will always write on their T&C that they have the rights to ask user's to do a KYC anytime or when neccessary. However, some good casinos still not strict about these. We can depo, play and withdraw without any issue as long as we dont do any suspicious thing on their platform. I know about these reasons and i don`t believe that casino will KYC all the gamblers at the start. But now imagine the situation: you want to withdraw money and you need it fast. And at this moment the casino decide to KYC you. And you have to search some documents, wait until the casino check it, etc. As for me it would be better to KYC during the registration. At least part of it - you can send documents and start gambling while the security check it. I think that some casinos allow themselves such a trick so that the player starts playing faster; they do not require KYC during registration and the player quickly registers his account and transfers money to the deposit. The careless player certainly doesn't read the ToS carefully. And in the ToS there is a provision on the possibility of requiring KYC from a player in certain cases. As a rule, this is, of course, the withdrawal of large amounts of money from a casino deposit to the player’s account. This is where this casino trick lies - after all, often a player who starts playing without KYC wants to receive winnings if he wins and is lucky. And csinos are starting to require KYC. Namely, this player cannot, for some reason, confirm his identtity and pass the KYC check. And that’s it, the money remained on his deposit. And theoretically, this is the working capital of the casino itself. So much for winning the casino thanks to this little trick. Of course, there may be only one such player in a hundred, but it still saves the casino money. And no one cares that such a player is offended and disappointed in such a casino.
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November 22, 2023, 11:09:54 AM |
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License is something that people do really seek upon even if it means that possible KYC would be next in line rather than into those anonymous or non regulated on which it cant really be avoided that you would really be having doubts that they might really be running with the funds unlike into regulated ones on which you could at least have that peace of mind.
Yes playing on a licensed casinos gives the gamblers more sense of safety compared to when playing on an unlicensed casino, this is because, most times those licensed casino have a physical office or can be traced through the liciesed authority fhat give the the approval to operate, this have been proven in many cases before, and having fhat ability to seek for redress have build another level of confidence in the gamblers so regardless of what kyc demand may come up, they will be ready to go. Through it instead of risking to play on an unlicensed casinos. Although we have some other set gamblers who may not want that to happen and to them, what is most important to them is to they privacy as their priority and being ready to accept any risk that may come along with that decisions. Though very rare that we are reading or seeing that someone is running after a casino, having license is indeed a feature that can add credibility to their business. The approach have been changed as a lot of frauds or scams have been going on for years. And people are getting victimized by these people so one way to lessen such scenario is to look out for licensed casinos. It may not guarantee that the site will always treat their clients right, but it will be their reminder to keep their business out of trouble. And we know that people would really be just that choosing on dealing with sites which are licensed and regulated in exchange for security on which it is really just that a normal approach or something that we do rather agree on rather than on making yourself getting involved on sites which arent that even that sure that they are really that legit. There are really just those people who are really that not liking about regulation or too centralized which asking out some information is really a no go but since we are really that confident on dealing with a legit site then you wont really be having options. Stick with legit ones and you would really be able to avoid yourself on potential problems. There are really just those individuals who do really love on testing out new platforms or sites on which it isnt bad but of course the risks is higher knowing that reputation isnt established yet.
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OP You should have read the terms and conditions of the casino or gambling site before creating an account. Many accounts do not require KYC, but some casinos or gambling sites do not require KYC when withdrawing dollars from the account, but when withdrawing more than a certain amount of dollars, KYC is required. However, doing KYC is definitely an extra security because doing KYC reduces the chances of serious malpractices like money laundering, fraud, and fraud.
Perhaps that is the OP's point, I mean when you deposit you are not being asked for KYC but suddenly when you win big and taking money from casino's suddenly they will ask for a KYC? But I think there are casinos now that before your register, they will tell you that there is a big possibility that they will be asking for personal documents and to KYC anyone, I think that will be the trend already. So the burden is to us gamblers, to read the TOS before signing to any casinos. And that could be the norm now, if we don't want to sign up and be KYC'd then do not do it, simply as that. There could be still casinos that don't require KYC before we can play or at least you need to missed some thresholds before they asked for it. I think that the Tos is all, if we as players do not read the Tos, for many reasons, some due to laziness, others to do things quickly, because we can get unpleasant surprises in the caisnos, I have gotten them in the bonuses csianos cloas, and it also has to be interpreted very well, because if it is not interpreted well, things can be very drastic, in such a situation we as players must have those duties, towards ourselves, of not falling into this type of csa , because there is nothing more to do, by signing we are accepting everything that is told to us, which is very different if inside a casino because the Tos change without notifying their clients or players, which in fact there is a thread here on bitcointalk where he talks deeply about this type of problem, which for me is a problem because we cannot be accepting things like that, unless the Tos themselves accept that and we have not read or interpreted it well. This thing about the Tos has many interpretations, because of the laws that lawyers live by, and knowing how to interpret them, then if we as players do not become more susceptible to what they offer us in the casinos we can detect this type of events, Well, in part things can happen for or against and even though things in casinos are very given to the fact that what dominates is Seto's legacy, we have to read very well so that possible problems in the future do not affect us, or due to these very Tos and their good interpretation we can defend ourselves, because it is very difficult to win cases against the casinos, even when there are many cases and we have accepted them, we have to have a lot of understanding and a good position on what It happened to us, there are few users who here in the forum have agreed with them, because in some way the forum helps the casinos to be fairer, and prevent them from doing things that are not appropriate.
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