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September 26, 2024, 12:01:53 PM
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Still amazes me every time I see the odds and Kamala Harris is the favorite. People must be out of their minds. I’ve never seen a politician run a campaign on flooding the country with illegals, giving them all your money, and making you pay for sex changes of minors. It’s like the entire world has gone mad. I’m betting on common sense. If Trump loses then a bet is the least of our concerns.
We could be surprised that more irregularities might arise soon with so many fake promises. Harris has been the vise president of the United States and their has been nothing to show about it. When Trump was the president, the American people was enjoying good food, cheap groceries and money was very easy to manage then. Just imagine you paying up to $600 for electric bill. This is too much and more severe cases might occurred if Harris eventually becomes the next president. People are really suffering these days because of the wrong management of some incompetent people that are at the top. It's time for us to make the right choice that will determine what life will look like in the next 4 years.

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September 26, 2024, 12:15:29 PM
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My bet on stake for Trump has changed the odds and it seems that Kamala Harris is getting close or about to lead the polls. I can still cancel my bet but it will be lessened from the original amount that I bet for but I'll look at it if it's wiser when we get close to November. With that, I'll still be able to save my money but we've got one more month and few days left before the actual election happens and I hope that I can still pull it off when I decided to cancel it.

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September 26, 2024, 01:33:17 PM
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Continue with something similar with the Biden administration or a unpredictable administration that might put the world in danger of nuclear war?

Sorry to interject out of nowhere, but nuclear war is pretty well guaranteed at this point. All the tensions we have seen so far haven't even taken into account water scarcity yet.      Sad
It seems that yes, a nuclear war is imminent if the Biden way is used again by the elected leader, seeing that diplomatic relations in the Biden administration were very bad, tensions were mounting especially with Russia + China and the double standards they did that made many people angry about US alignments during the Biden period and if I was not mistaken, Arabs did not require oil buyers to use dollars anymore.

So do you think Trump or Harris sir can handle all these crises?

Hey remember when Trump told the country that Covid-19 was a "democratic hoax" and made wearing a mask and staying home political and then it killed almost 1 million Americans?
Hahaha...don't even go there, if we should be pointing to the errors, shamelessness and lies of Trump, we might still be counting it close to thousands. Wink

This is a businessman who wanted more through politics and tried his luck and it worked. I won't be surprised again if Trump wins due to the gullibility of people, he loves to peddle lies and centre his claims on what could cause division in an already divided or almost divided society, so there is no way he will not garner enough of supports from those who never wanted things to be the way they are, that's his strength.

But for him to be so sound when it comes to wisdom and integrity, he scores almost zero there, he is only riding on popularity and covering up for his lapses through the already working system of the United States.

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September 26, 2024, 02:50:07 PM
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My bet on stake for Trump has changed the odds and it seems that Kamala Harris is getting close or about to lead the polls. I can still cancel my bet but it will be lessened from the original amount that I bet for but I'll look at it if it's wiser when we get close to November. With that, I'll still be able to save my money but we've got one more month and few days left before the actual election happens and I hope that I can still pull it off when I decided to cancel it.

Be careful when you talk about the opinion polls. Remember the 2016 and 2020 elections? Trump performed much better than what the opinion polls predicted (especially in the rust belt).  A few days before the polling, Public Policy Polling (PPP) published an opinion poll which showed Hillary Clinton leading Donald Trump by a massive 12 points in Wisconsin (Trump won the state). Same happened in 2020 as well. Poll aggregators showed Biden leading Trump by anywhere from 7 points to 10 points in Wisconsin. Biden won the state, but by a wafer thin margin of 0.6%.

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September 26, 2024, 03:18:58 PM
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My bet on stake for Trump has changed the odds and it seems that Kamala Harris is getting close or about to lead the polls. I can still cancel my bet but it will be lessened from the original amount that I bet for but I'll look at it if it's wiser when we get close to November. With that, I'll still be able to save my money but we've got one more month and few days left before the actual election happens and I hope that I can still pull it off when I decided to cancel it.

Be careful when you talk about the opinion polls. Remember the 2016 and 2020 elections? Trump performed much better than what the opinion polls predicted (especially in the rust belt).  A few days before the polling, Public Policy Polling (PPP) published an opinion poll which showed Hillary Clinton leading Donald Trump by a massive 12 points in Wisconsin (Trump won the state). Same happened in 2020 as well. Poll aggregators showed Biden leading Trump by anywhere from 7 points to 10 points in Wisconsin. Biden won the state, but by a wafer thin margin of 0.6%.
And these surveys in the past for someone became decisive to make a big bet, because the player thought that now he would almost certainly win, but it turned out to be something similar to the fact that he was set up) Nevertheless, everyone should be prepared that sometimes everything in a short amount of time can change completely the opposite. Therefore, there are never easy predictions. Only when this happens, then the player says that it was easy, but in fact he could have been one step away from losing.

 
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And these surveys in the past for someone became decisive to make a big bet, because the player thought that now he would almost certainly win, but it turned out to be something similar to the fact that he was set up) Nevertheless, everyone should be prepared that sometimes everything in a short amount of time can change completely the opposite. Therefore, there are never easy predictions. Only when this happens, then the player says that it was easy, but in fact he could have been one step away from losing.

If you check the betting odds, they are much more favorable to Trump when compared to opinion polls. For example, in Stake, Trump has odds of 2.05 when compared to 1.93 for Kamala. It is a lot closer and it is very different from opinion polls which show a significant nation-wide level lead for Kamala. And this itself shows that the betting market doesn't have much confidence in the opinion polls published by various agencies. If you ask me, I would still go with Trump. He is underestimated by everyone at this point.

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And these surveys in the past for someone became decisive to make a big bet, because the player thought that now he would almost certainly win, but it turned out to be something similar to the fact that he was set up) Nevertheless, everyone should be prepared that sometimes everything in a short amount of time can change completely the opposite. Therefore, there are never easy predictions. Only when this happens, then the player says that it was easy, but in fact he could have been one step away from losing.

If you check the betting odds, they are much more favorable to Trump when compared to opinion polls. For example, in Stake, Trump has odds of 2.05 when compared to 1.93 for Kamala. It is a lot closer and it is very different from opinion polls which show a significant nation-wide level lead for Kamala. And this itself shows that the betting market doesn't have much confidence in the opinion polls published by various agencies. If you ask me, I would still go with Trump. He is underestimated by everyone at this point.

Betting on site like Stake is international while opinion polls are national, this is the difference (as the most of those who are bet om Trump will not cast their voices at the coming election.). For instance Chinese people are betting more than often on  Trump (know this from my  contractor) and their betting may twist any odds. Kamala is steadily building her momentum staircasing her popularity of different walks of life.

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September 26, 2024, 08:52:28 PM
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My bet on stake for Trump has changed the odds and it seems that Kamala Harris is getting close or about to lead the polls. I can still cancel my bet but it will be lessened from the original amount that I bet for but I'll look at it if it's wiser when we get close to November. With that, I'll still be able to save my money but we've got one more month and few days left before the actual election happens and I hope that I can still pull it off when I decided to cancel it.

Be careful when you talk about the opinion polls. Remember the 2016 and 2020 elections? Trump performed much better than what the opinion polls predicted (especially in the rust belt).  A few days before the polling, Public Policy Polling (PPP) published an opinion poll which showed Hillary Clinton leading Donald Trump by a massive 12 points in Wisconsin (Trump won the state). Same happened in 2020 as well. Poll aggregators showed Biden leading Trump by anywhere from 7 points to 10 points in Wisconsin. Biden won the state, but by a wafer thin margin of 0.6%.
It's also unpredictable. Every election is always surprising. One is leading the polls done through the media and the public but the actuality can differ from what the media is showing. There's also ample time for the people's thought to change and every state is could change who's leading there during the polls. And as we can see, the turn of tides can change quickly for every words they say and actions done by them. Both of them still have time to convince people and states to vote for them and they only need to get the majority of them not all, cmiiw.


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Inflation and what the politicians are saying is all smoke and mirrors. Covid hit, we printed a zillion new dollars and now inflation spiked who would have guessed.  The US printed more money after covid than any other time in history, it's simple economics.  More circulating money means it's worth less amd you need more to buy the same things.  They try to use it as a way to pin it against each other when in reality it's both parties fault.

It's nice to see that people think similar to me, as I think it should be, because fundamentally you have to start from the basics, that all politicians are liars and always deceive, everything that has to do with Covid, with any issue that affects the world, the USA has to do that, since they no longer have gold backing, everything has fallen apart, this is where those who talk about the famous BRICS are born, which is supposedly the solution to everything, but what politician will accept that the hegemony of the dollar comes to an end, would failure be compensated, the only way there can be liquidity in the USA is if they can put gold back into their reserves and not continue printing money, which politician will do it? The one with the most experience in politics or management?

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September 27, 2024, 03:48:52 PM
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And these surveys in the past for someone became decisive to make a big bet, because the player thought that now he would almost certainly win, but it turned out to be something similar to the fact that he was set up) Nevertheless, everyone should be prepared that sometimes everything in a short amount of time can change completely the opposite. Therefore, there are never easy predictions. Only when this happens, then the player says that it was easy, but in fact he could have been one step away from losing.
If you check the betting odds, they are much more favorable to Trump when compared to opinion polls. For example, in Stake, Trump has odds of 2.05 when compared to 1.93 for Kamala. It is a lot closer and it is very different from opinion polls which show a significant nation-wide level lead for Kamala. And this itself shows that the betting market doesn't have much confidence in the opinion polls published by various agencies. If you ask me, I would still go with Trump. He is underestimated by everyone at this point.
The important part is that every poll and odds looks like Kamala will win, and Trump is not looking favourites anywhere, which is the most important part. I think it doesn't look like we are going to end up with anything good, and we are going to end up with something that will not be that easy to handle at all.

I believe that we are going to see this growing much better, and it's going to be not that easy to fix for him, he is just trailing behind. I do not think that it will be a big difference, the EC results will be very close, sure Kamala will win the popular vote by a large margin, like at least 5 million, but EC results will be very close, Kamala will be barely over 270 when she wins, and only if she wins, maybe Trump could still shock the world and win.

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If you check the betting odds, they are much more favorable to Trump when compared to opinion polls. For example, in Stake, Trump has odds of 2.05 when compared to 1.93 for Kamala. It is a lot closer and it is very different from opinion polls which show a significant nation-wide level lead for Kamala. And this itself shows that the betting market doesn't have much confidence in the opinion polls published by various agencies. If you ask me, I would still go with Trump. He is underestimated by everyone at this point.
The important part is that every poll and odds looks like Kamala will win, and Trump is not looking favourites anywhere, which is the most important part. I think it doesn't look like we are going to end up with anything good, and we are going to end up with something that will not be that easy to handle at all.

I believe that we are going to see this growing much better, and it's going to be not that easy to fix for him, he is just trailing behind. I do not think that it will be a big difference, the EC results will be very close, sure Kamala will win the popular vote by a large margin, like at least 5 million, but EC results will be very close, Kamala will be barely over 270 when she wins, and only if she wins, maybe Trump could still shock the world and win.
And more he is losing in the polls, more weirder and more desperate and somehow more boring and petty his speeches seem to get. I mean have you people heard what he is rambling about?

Selling watches and trump coins. Cut off by Fox News when ranting about furniture and not even trying to hide his racism and lies against immigrants.

And remember when he said he was tough on Russia? Now he is openly going pro-russia again and saying that ukraina should give up. People tend to notice this stuff, and when other candinate is speaking clearly and making sense, while trump struggles to speak when he should focus on anything else then himself. Also majority of the analysts and economists seem to agree that his plan is destructive and would increase inflation.

Odds are probably favoring Kamala even more while the elections are getting closer. So if someone wants to bet on Kamala, this is the time to do it, and for Trump, you are probably better of placing your bets later on as odds are rising. Even though you are probably losing your money.  

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Inflation and what the politicians are saying is all smoke and mirrors. Covid hit, we printed a zillion new dollars and now inflation spiked who would have guessed.  The US printed more money after covid than any other time in history, it's simple economics.  More circulating money means it's worth less amd you need more to buy the same things.  They try to use it as a way to pin it against each other when in reality it's both parties fault.

It's nice to see that people think similar to me, as I think it should be, because fundamentally you have to start from the basics, that all politicians are liars and always deceive, everything that has to do with Covid, with any issue that affects the world, the USA has to do that, since they no longer have gold backing, everything has fallen apart, this is where those who talk about the famous BRICS are born, which is supposedly the solution to everything, but what politician will accept that the hegemony of the dollar comes to an end, would failure be compensated, the only way there can be liquidity in the USA is if they can put gold back into their reserves and not continue printing money, which politician will do it? The one with the most experience in politics or management?


Fundamentally, inflation and printing money  are popular things to complain about, but they are a vital part of any healthy economy.  Without it there would be very little growth - something that China is actually dealing with right now.  I

And as for politicians lying, not all politicians are liars - and no other politition running for president has ever lied as often or had their lies do more damage than Trump.  And it's not even close.

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I am noticing an interesting pattern here. The so called battleground states Trump has inched ever so slightly closer to receiving the majority of votes in polls, except Michigan. But he has started doing slightly better in Georgia, North Carolina and Arizona. That's quite interesting because from what I've noticed the policies trump promotes haven't changed at all...

There must be some intense local campaigning by the republicans there to try and sway the vote of the locals is what I presume.

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But he has started doing slightly better in Georgia, North Carolina and Arizona.

 Georgia, North Carolina and Arizona are so called swinging states which means the preference of local electorate    changes more than often. Thus, even the coming October will give no answer for whom they vote (notwithstanding republicans' efforts), only November, 5th wil clear the air. Meantime Trump's  chances to win  are steadily declining in the rest of states.

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But he has started doing slightly better in Georgia, North Carolina and Arizona.

 Georgia, North Carolina and Arizona are so called swinging states which means the preference of local electorate    changes more than often. Thus, even the coming October will give no answer for whom they vote, only November, 5th wil clear the air. Meantime Trump's  chances to win  are steadily declining in the rest of states.

All indications we have still show it can be an incredibly tight race.
And I am sure Democrats don't want to repeat their 2016 situation this year and are also campaigning like crazy at the moment, same for republicans too.

What I can't help but wonder though is why people on so many of these swing states are still gravitating towards Trump. Many of the so called swing states also happen to be some of the poorest states. And yet we hear from them very rarely in the media. Who's gonna give these people a voice? It's not unlikely that they were worse off in the end under a democrat administration in spite of all the promises... But on the other hand Trump's promises aren't as clear cut on the economic issues either, so maybe many of these people disregard economics over other issues too?

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It's nice to see that people think similar to me, as I think it should be, because fundamentally you have to start from the basics, that all politicians are liars and always deceive, everything that has to do with Covid, with any issue that affects the world, the USA has to do that, since they no longer have gold backing, everything has fallen apart, this is where those who talk about the famous BRICS are born, which is supposedly the solution to everything, but what politician will accept that the hegemony of the dollar comes to an end, would failure be compensated, the only way there can be liquidity in the USA is if they can put gold back into their reserves and not continue printing money, which politician will do it? The one with the most experience in politics or management?
That is definitely what most people think, there are few who do not and few who are just hooligans, but normally most people think like that. Any human with just a bit of brain would know that when we are talking about who is better, we are not talking about any of them being good at all, it's clear that both sides are liars and only interested in power, being the leader of free world is something USA likes to say, I have no idea what freedom they have over anyone else but I guess that's what they like.

So whoever gets picked, will not do what they promised to do, neither are good people, neither will make the country do the right thing, and both of them will cause a lot of pain for the citizens with bad moves, it's just that simple.
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September 28, 2024, 04:36:48 PM
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There must be some intense local campaigning by the republicans there to try and sway the vote of the locals is what I presume.

Ironically, I think there has not been any change in their campaign efforts but rather there have been some unfortunate events happening at the same time which are driving swing voters to side with the Republican Party, instead of going for Kamala Harris.
The biggest of the event is how one of the most important figures in local government (within the Democrat party even), the major of New York City is being Federally indicted on very serious crimes and he has also declined to resign, after becoming the first elected major of the city to shoulder federal indictments. That has certainly turned voters away from Democrats, who now view not only the major, but also the party under a completely different kind of light.
I have no doubt Fox and Newsmax will do much emphasis on the alledged corruption of the major to favour Trump in this incoming November election.

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And as for politicians lying, not all politicians are liars - and no other politition running for president has ever lied as often or had their lies do more damage than Trump.  And it's not even close.
Do you have any examples of politicians who aren't liars? This belief is getting weaker and weaker each new cycle of political elections worldwide. Masks are falling apart and human beings in power positions are finally showing their true colors. Internet plays a big role on this matter, as information reaches everywhere in real time, being harder for centralized channels to monopolize the narratives, like they used to do in past decades.

People are tired of empty promises which never become reality. And even more tired of politicians cleaning themselves on the dirtiness of their rivals. The narrative of the lesser evil is outdated. Liars are liars in every cases, despite it being a little or big lie.

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Inflation and what the politicians are saying is all smoke and mirrors. Covid hit, we printed a zillion new dollars and now inflation spiked who would have guessed.  The US printed more money after covid than any other time in history, it's simple economics.  More circulating money means it's worth less amd you need more to buy the same things.  They try to use it as a way to pin it against each other when in reality it's both parties fault.

It's nice to see that people think similar to me, as I think it should be, because fundamentally you have to start from the basics, that all politicians are liars and always deceive, everything that has to do with Covid, with any issue that affects the world, the USA has to do that, since they no longer have gold backing, everything has fallen apart, this is where those who talk about the famous BRICS are born, which is supposedly the solution to everything, but what politician will accept that the hegemony of the dollar comes to an end, would failure be compensated, the only way there can be liquidity in the USA is if they can put gold back into their reserves and not continue printing money, which politician will do it? The one with the most experience in politics or management?

It is quite natural for politicians. Of course. All politicians lie one way or another, they are simply forced to do so, because their main goal is to please as many voters as possible. However, after the elections are won and there is no longer such a goal as to please voters, politicians can act based on their worldview. As a rule, this contradicts what the politician said when he wanted to please voters. Trump said that he would build a wall on the border with Mexico, but then it turned out that this wall was more of a fake. Kamala Harris is now trying to please both crypto supporters and supporters of traditional finance. That is why she has contradictory election promises. Like, America should lead in technology, but we should regulate the market and protect small holders. This is, of course, funny.

 
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September 29, 2024, 06:24:06 AM
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Inflation and what the politicians are saying is all smoke and mirrors. Covid hit, we printed a zillion new dollars and now inflation spiked who would have guessed.  The US printed more money after covid than any other time in history, it's simple economics.  More circulating money means it's worth less amd you need more to buy the same things.  They try to use it as a way to pin it against each other when in reality it's both parties fault.

It's nice to see that people think similar to me, as I think it should be, because fundamentally you have to start from the basics, that all politicians are liars and always deceive, everything that has to do with Covid, with any issue that affects the world, the USA has to do that, since they no longer have gold backing, everything has fallen apart, this is where those who talk about the famous BRICS are born, which is supposedly the solution to everything, but what politician will accept that the hegemony of the dollar comes to an end, would failure be compensated, the only way there can be liquidity in the USA is if they can put gold back into their reserves and not continue printing money, which politician will do it? The one with the most experience in politics or management?

It is quite natural for politicians. Of course. All politicians lie one way or another, they are simply forced to do so, because their main goal is to please as many voters as possible. However, after the elections are won and there is no longer such a goal as to please voters, politicians can act based on their worldview. As a rule, this contradicts what the politician said when he wanted to please voters. Trump said that he would build a wall on the border with Mexico, but then it turned out that this wall was more of a fake. Kamala Harris is now trying to please both crypto supporters and supporters of traditional finance. That is why she has contradictory election promises. Like, America should lead in technology, but we should regulate the market and protect small holders. This is, of course, funny.


Whenever you hear someone say "all politicians lie", you can bet that they are helping the politicians that are the biggest liars by implying they should be put in the same group as the most honest politicians.  And most of the time it's Trump they are trying to defend.

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