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Author Topic: [ANN] Storj - Decentralized Storage  (Read 389694 times)
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August 18, 2014, 06:34:16 AM
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Ya I find it really odd. You should have gone with a lower coin total... maybe 1-10 million. And then set aside for example 25% (could be more or less, just an example) for the IPO. Unsold coins would then be kept in escrow for other crowd sales (people are going to be really unconformable with devs holding 90% of coins, should have used escrow). Then the only way to "mine" coins would be proof of storage. Why didn't you make the proof of storage payments automated? By the way how will the coins be distributed in the current set up for storage payments? Will they be sent manually, or through a centralized system? Or maybe I missed something and it actually is decentralized?

Other than that I like these sorts of decentralized applications. Seems to have some imperfections in the way the distribution was thought out though.
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August 18, 2014, 07:36:05 AM
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Ya I find it really odd. You should have gone with a lower coin total... maybe 1-10 million. And then set aside for example 25% (could be more or less, just an example) for the IPO. Unsold coins would then be kept in escrow for other crowd sales (people are going to be really unconformable with devs holding 90% of coins, should have used escrow). Then the only way to "mine" coins would be proof of storage. Why didn't you make the proof of storage payments automated? By the way how will the coins be distributed in the current set up for storage payments? Will they be sent manually, or through a centralized system? Or maybe I missed something and it actually is decentralized?

Other than that I like these sorts of decentralized applications. Seems to have some imperfections in the way the distribution was thought out though.
Hi, Matt from Storj here.
 
We completely understand why somebody would feel nervous with how the allocation system for coins is set up. The main reason we freely disclose our personal information is because people interested in the project want to see real names and real faces instead of just a nice looking website and an address -- the fact we put our real information out there should be at least some reassurance that we won't just take the BTC or SJCX and run. 
 
A large portion of the Bitcoin donated during the crowdsale will be going into a 3-of-7 multisig wallet on copay.io which is already completely set up. This wallet will become the holder of the Bitcoin after the crowdsale is over (wallet address is 3PQwFtfHnL9vC4E6zEgWieQGXV8MeSpfC2). The Bitcoin that doesn't go into this wallet will go, for the most part, to covering past expenses such as travelling to conferences and marketing, as well as toward the payment of full-time (and part-time) developers.
 
In the early days of DriveShare, some of the leftover SJCX from the crowdsale will go toward the payment of those who rent out their hard drive on the early network. We do not currently have a hard set number for how many SJCX these users will be rewarded because we wanted to wait until after the crowdsale is over so that we are able to see how many coins are left. We feel that deciding this amount arbitrarily, without knowing how many are remaining, would be irresponsible.
 
For major decisions regarding Storj, we tend to prefer having open discussions with the community and letting our users have a say as well. Examples of this were when we were deciding whether to have Storjcoin X run on the Counterparty on Mastercoin protocol as well as when we decided what to do with the asset squatter on Counterparty. Because of this, there will be more than likely multiple discussions regarding the use of SJCX leftover from the crowdsale where the community can join in. 
 
As of right now, we do not have a set plan on how the early storage payments will be done. It will most certainly have to be automated because our team would not be able to handle a large number of payments. In other words, payments for early storage will most likely not be going through the hands of, say, multiple people.
 
We apologize if we caused any alarm or confusion with how we are handling things. We are more than happy to provide evidence pointing to the fact that we are an extremely dedicated team creating as good of a product and service as we can. I hope I answered your questions as thoroughly as you were looking for, and I would be happy to answer any more that you have.
 
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August 18, 2014, 07:48:39 AM
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Ok...I sent some BTC for the Crowdsale. How will I be able to participate in Driveshare and MetaDisk?  Is this all going to be handled through the CounterParty wallet?

Honest question...

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August 18, 2014, 09:58:57 AM
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Ok...I sent some BTC for the Crowdsale. How will I be able to participate in Driveshare and MetaDisk?  Is this all going to be handled through the CounterParty wallet?

Honest question...

You can already test Metadisk here:

http://node1.metadisk.org/
http://node2.metadisk.org/
http://node3.metadisk.org/

As per the early release of DriveShare it will be a staggered rollout in order of crowdsale contribution.

And yes your contribution address will be "white listed" when is available to be used with DriveShare.

To keep up to date on news and announcements register to the newsletter on http://storj.io or on the forum at http://storjtalk.org
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August 18, 2014, 01:15:04 PM
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how long is the wait usually from sending BTC?

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August 18, 2014, 01:53:35 PM
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how long is the wait usually from sending BTC?
Couple of block confirms. Depends on how Bitcoin is feeling that particular day.

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August 18, 2014, 02:34:53 PM
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how long is the wait usually from sending BTC?

From my BTC qt to CounterWallet it took about 7 mins. After sending my BTC from CounterWallet to the presale deposit address, it took about 5 mins to receive my SJCX.
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August 18, 2014, 03:01:24 PM
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OK


https://blockchain.info/tx/2ff22e083648fa985a222fb51593b05e88de43ebf47ee4d8cc831d6b2c9ada65

I got nothing yet in my counterparty wallet

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August 18, 2014, 03:06:46 PM
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the disclaimer says it could take up to a few hours to receive your SJCX. I guess some people get them fast and some take a bit longer. I honestly wouldn't worry unless its been over 3-4 hrs.
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August 18, 2014, 03:07:40 PM
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the disclaimer says it could take up to a few hours to receive your SJCX. I guess some people get them fast and some take a bit longer. I honestly wouldn't worry unless its been over 3-4 hrs.

5 hours.

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August 18, 2014, 03:10:56 PM
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the disclaimer says it could take up to a few hours to receive your SJCX. I guess some people get them fast and some take a bit longer. I honestly wouldn't worry unless its been over 3-4 hrs.

5 hours.

try and close the counterwallet page and re-login on a different tab. For me at least, im having issues with chrome on CounterWallet...like the BTC deposit was loading forever  until I closed and re-logged in and it was there. And the same for when my SJCX arrived.
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August 18, 2014, 03:12:51 PM
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the disclaimer says it could take up to a few hours to receive your SJCX. I guess some people get them fast and some take a bit longer. I honestly wouldn't worry unless its been over 3-4 hrs.

5 hours.

try and close the counterwallet page and re-login on a different tab. For me at least, im having issues with chrome on CounterWallet...like the BTC deposit was loading forever  until I closed and re-logged in and it was there. And the same for when my SJCX arrived.

as if by magic.

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August 18, 2014, 06:38:55 PM
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So once I send my btc to the counterparty wallet then send it to crowd sale  address, where  do they send the Storj to? How do they know I sent it?
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August 18, 2014, 06:42:26 PM
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So once I send my btc to the counterparty wallet then send it to crowd sale  address, where  do they send the Storj to? How do they know I sent it?
Just wait. Coins will appear in your wallet that you sent from.

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August 18, 2014, 06:52:27 PM
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So once I send my btc to the counterparty wallet then send it to crowd sale  address, where  do they send the Storj to? How do they know I sent it?
Just wait. Coins will appear in your wallet that you sent from.

the counterparty wallet?
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August 18, 2014, 06:53:04 PM
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Yes. We sent the SJCX coins back that address the Bitcoins came from.

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August 18, 2014, 07:28:26 PM
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Yes. We sent the SJCX coins back that address the Bitcoins came from.

Right on man thanks
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August 18, 2014, 08:10:35 PM
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Will it be possible to withdraw Storj from Counterwallet onto a QT client or another exchange such as Mintpal? Are we forced to use counterwallet where there is no volume?

I, along with many others cannot stand to use counterwallet - as volume is so little on there you would never be able to sell your coins and its not easy to use.

Being able to move Storj away from counterwallet is essential before I decide to buy any.

Also, when will farming commence?
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August 18, 2014, 08:21:48 PM
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are you forced to exchange it on counterwallet where there is no volume?
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August 18, 2014, 09:24:04 PM
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i'm trying to find these details on your thread maybe someone could help me with my search. max coins? ipo price? max coins on offer at ipo? are you on a exchange yet?
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