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May 18, 2014, 01:47:21 PM
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I join in the IPO via btc, but the price is below the IPO price,
what's the next plan of the dev team?
can't wait.

 
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May 18, 2014, 02:01:38 PM
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I agree it's good people came to his defense specifically the Admin guy David. Sadly the turnaround in this example seems like kids changing their behavior because they got told off by teacher. If the Admin hadn't stepped in these guys would have been determined to break his argument by group force rather than through logic, reasoning, maths and information.

I agree with you, before the admin and irvine showed up it really wasn't looking good for him, being branded a troll for asking questions.

I really want to see some code too, it's too much talk at the moment.

Also there will be competitors in the storage space, I think sia is one of them, and Nxt and Ethereum may enable their own solutions.

They need to act fast.
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May 18, 2014, 02:15:53 PM
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I agree it's good people came to his defense specifically the Admin guy David. Sadly the turnaround in this example seems like kids changing their behavior because they got told off by teacher. If the Admin hadn't stepped in these guys would have been determined to break his argument by group force rather than through logic, reasoning, maths and information.

I agree with you, before the admin and irvine showed up it really wasn't looking good for him, being branded a troll for asking questions.

I really want to see some code too, it's too much talk at the moment.

Also there will be competitors in the storage space, I think sia is one of them, and Nxt and Ethereum may enable their own solutions.

They need to act fast.

I'd argue Irvines actually one of the worst for this which is pretty ironic given he's trying to build a decentralized internet, citing feedom of speech to the world as one of the reasons

In this example David Irvine tells an outright lie to ban me, branding me a scammer and promoting a dictatorial voting system that involves him clicking ban if he hears something he doesn't like:

I can find another example were he's asked for vote a if I should be banned after he's already banned me! Then proclaims "it looks like he's left on his own accord already!!" The guys really fake...

https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/maidsafe-development/QYrB4pC1B_0

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Re: [maidsafe-development] Re: Buy Maidsafe

Folks, I have banned that person now, I know we have a voting system, but he is a scammer. He is using counterparty tokens to pretend they are msafe. Feel free to comment or challenge this decision. I hate making it, but I think we should now have a rule that any direct attack on people is instant ban.

I do not mind me getting flac I am pretty resilient, but I won't allow this community to be attacked like that. Sorry, but He is banned, I strongly suspect it is the same person who tried to sell us the counterparty name for 5 btc.   spoke with counterparty about it and they rightly said they cannot do anything about it. This is not a counterparty verses mastercoin issue, those projects seem to get along. It is just scammers I am afraid.

I think our forums may have to look at dealing with this issue as well. It will get bad fast if we do not put it down.

Sorry folks.
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May 18, 2014, 02:33:59 PM
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Hey Chang Hum,

please just go away.

We got your point, but you are telling the same things over and over again.

Yes you don´t like, so move on, and stop spamming this thread.

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May 18, 2014, 02:48:51 PM
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Hey Chang Hum,

please just go away.

We got your point, but you are telling the same things over and over again.

Yes you don´t like, so move on, and stop spamming this thread.


No I'm not saying the same things over and over. One quotes from a topic today and I don't believe I've quoted this post were David Irvine directly lies to investors about his reason for banning me before.

Sorry if you feel I'm a threat to your shitty stupid "investment" you didn't bother to do any due diligence on. As my posts are very relevant to any newcomers thinking of investing in this nonsense, and the level of insight here is very low I think I'll stay.
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May 18, 2014, 04:26:59 PM
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Reading some of the recent threads on their forums, it's like they're still in the theory stage trying to develop their concept of the SAFE network. When they announced their IPO, they made it seem like they had already developed the concept and were entering the experimental and trial stage.

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May 18, 2014, 05:34:28 PM
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Hey Chang Hum,

please just go away.

We got your point, but you are telling the same things over and over again.

Yes you don´t like, so move on, and stop spamming this thread.


No I'm not saying the same things over and over. One quotes from a topic today and I don't believe I've quoted this post were David Irvine directly lies to investors about his reason for banning me before.

Sorry if you feel I'm a threat to your shitty stupid "investment" you didn't bother to do any due diligence on. As my posts are very relevant to any newcomers thinking of investing in this nonsense, and the level of insight here is very low I think I'll stay. God sent me.

You don´t get it. You can have your opinion, but we don´t care about it. So go for some friends and tell them. We don´t wanna hear it anymore.

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May 18, 2014, 08:48:04 PM
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Reading some of the recent threads on their forums, it's like they're still in the theory stage trying to develop their concept of the SAFE network. When they announced their IPO, they made it seem like they had already developed the concept and were entering the experimental and trial stage.

they are in trial stage , only problem being trail stage involves testnets in length of 6 weeks each and a minimum of 3, so 4 and a half months if there are no major problems on these tests nets as they get bigger and more stuff is added to it. to see how it all functions together.

To me that is more damaging to the coin than anything else, the mastercoin thing, yeah its a pretty shitty thing to happen. But having a coin with an open exchange and no real news for the next 4 and a half months at least before its even functioning properly. that can really hurt the value of it
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May 18, 2014, 10:30:10 PM
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Reading some of the recent threads on their forums, it's like they're still in the theory stage trying to develop their concept of the SAFE network. When they announced their IPO, they made it seem like they had already developed the concept and were entering the experimental and trial stage.

they are in trial stage , only problem being trail stage involves testnets in length of 6 weeks each and a minimum of 3, so 4 and a half months if there are no major problems on these tests nets as they get bigger and more stuff is added to it. to see how it all functions together.

To me that is more damaging to the coin than anything else, the mastercoin thing, yeah its a pretty shitty thing to happen. But having a coin with an open exchange and no real news for the next 4 and a half months at least before its even functioning properly. that can really hurt the value of it

I hope you're correct about the testnet predictions. I guess having seen so many crypto projects make announcements only to delay and delay has made me become very cautious when I hear about timeframes.

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May 18, 2014, 10:32:00 PM
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Reading some of the recent threads on their forums, it's like they're still in the theory stage trying to develop their concept of the SAFE network. When they announced their IPO, they made it seem like they had already developed the concept and were entering the experimental and trial stage.

they are in trial stage , only problem being trail stage involves testnets in length of 6 weeks each and a minimum of 3, so 4 and a half months if there are no major problems on these tests nets as they get bigger and more stuff is added to it. to see how it all functions together.

To me that is more damaging to the coin than anything else, the mastercoin thing, yeah its a pretty shitty thing to happen. But having a coin with an open exchange and no real news for the next 4 and a half months at least before its even functioning properly. that can really hurt the value of it

I hope you're correct about the testnet predictions. I guess having seen so many crypto projects make announcements only to delay and delay has made me become very cautious when I hear about timeframes.

The best place for the information is normally their video blog things they do. think last one was sent last week, easy to just put them on in the background while checking out and doing other stuff.
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May 19, 2014, 05:48:32 AM
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吵个锤子,吵个jb,让现实来说话:不管是msc还是maidsafe都tmd跌成屎了!!
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May 19, 2014, 06:31:36 AM
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吵个锤子,吵个jb,让现实来说话:不管是msc还是maidsafe都tmd跌成屎了!!

Do you mean this my friend?

Instead of arguing like dicks, let reality do the talking if Mastercoin or Maidsafe have damn well fallen into shit?
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May 19, 2014, 06:34:09 AM
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IPO is very hot, but the application has not come out, so the price has been dropped.
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May 19, 2014, 11:11:37 AM
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David Irvine took a dig at me for being a troll on the Maidsafe group which I found a bit unfair on top of accusing me of being a scammer. He keeps avoiding the question, I was about to ask a third time but got banned first. *

I think what he's trying to say is no I'm not a scammer he lied because I took a dig at him for manipulating the Mastercoin price.

Source: https://www.maidsafe.org/t/how-does-maidsafe-solve-double-spending/257/61

Here's the question:

You should be a politician trying to discredit me to avoid the question! I'm asking a simple question relating to a serious accusation you made about me. Was I really trying to sell people in your group counterparty maidsafe coins?


Here is your post:

David Irvine
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Re: [maidsafe-development] Re: Buy Maidsafe
Folks, I have banned that person now, I know we have a voting system, but he is a scammer. He is using counterparty tokens to pretend they are msafe. Feel free to comment or challenge this decision. I hate making it, but I think we should now have a rule that any direct attack on people is instant ban.
I do not mind me getting flac I am pretty resilient, but I won't allow this community to be attacked like that. Sorry, but He is banned, I strongly suspect it is the same person who tried to sell us the counterparty name for 5 btc. spoke with counterparty about it and they rightly said they cannot do anything about it. This is not a counterparty verses mastercoin issue, those projects seem to get along. It is just scammers I am afraid.
I think our forums may have to look at dealing with this issue as well. It will get bad fast if we do not put it down.
Sorry folks.


Google groups Link: https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/maidsafe-development/QYrB4pC1B_0

*Edit: Forums actually controlled by another David thankfully and he's being quite respectful of my question. He stopped me from repeating the questions as it's off topic and moved it here: https://www.maidsafe.org/t/question-for-david-dirvine/273/5
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May 19, 2014, 09:09:27 PM
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Hey Chang Hum,

please just go away.

We got your point, but you are telling the same things over and over again.

Yes you don´t like, so move on, and stop spamming this thread.


No I'm not saying the same things over and over. One quotes from a topic today and I don't believe I've quoted this post were David Irvine directly lies to investors about his reason for banning me before.

Sorry if you feel I'm a threat to your shitty stupid "investment" you didn't bother to do any due diligence on. As my posts are very relevant to any newcomers thinking of investing in this nonsense, and the level of insight here is very low I think I'll stay.

Given the amount of time you spend on this topic, you must not have much of a life.

You are just the kind of redundant noise which lowers the value of Bitcoin Talk.

I would prefer to be able to follow projects and their news here, but people like yourself have driven projects to their own forums. You represent a gross waste of theirs and my time, but then, that is why there is an ignore function.

Edit: First time I ever used ignore...too bad it still shows his presence.
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May 19, 2014, 09:12:04 PM
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Hey Chang Hum,

please just go away.

We got your point, but you are telling the same things over and over again.

Yes you don´t like, so move on, and stop spamming this thread.


No I'm not saying the same things over and over. One quotes from a topic today and I don't believe I've quoted this post were David Irvine directly lies to investors about his reason for banning me before.

Sorry if you feel I'm a threat to your shitty stupid "investment" you didn't bother to do any due diligence on. As my posts are very relevant to any newcomers thinking of investing in this nonsense, and the level of insight here is very low I think I'll stay.

Given the amount of time you spend on this topic, you must not have much of a life.

You are just the kind of redundant noise which lowers the value of Bitcoin Talk.

I would prefer to be able to follow projects and their news here, but people like yourself have driven projects to their own forums. You represent a gross waste of theirs and my time, but then, that is why there is an ignore function.

Edit: First time I ever used ignore...too bad it still shows his presence.

BTT is loaded with black mailers waiting for a hefty payoff.


      
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May 19, 2014, 10:01:03 PM
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Yeah you guys are right, last post. Good luck.
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May 20, 2014, 03:12:20 AM
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Yeah you guys are right, last post. Good luck.
last post?oh。。no!i like you.
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May 20, 2014, 03:12:58 AM
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Where can I find more information about the SAFE network? Any ideas when it will launch?
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Yeah you guys are right, last post. Good luck.
last post?oh。。no!i like you.
真为你们这些生活在民主自由的国家的家伙们感到害臊!每一个人都有发表不同意见的权利!
你们这些家伙难道和我们的政府一样吗?不允许不同意见吗? Angry
chang  hum,Don’t  leave!

Language barriers aside...I wouldn't miss him.  He is obsessed with the minute details of financial transactions and not so much interested in the details of the technology that is being created.  3-5 months is when the Safe Network will go live and the tech, in theory, is solid. 

He beats a dead horse (after admitting to a modest profit) and fails to allow the conversation to evolve to the point of what is coming.  He's either the biggest bagholder trying to drive prices down to capitalize on the 'second IPO=Safe Network launch' or just an asshole. 

Personal Experience suggests he is the former; Concessions made for the latter...though he might be a delight to be friends with in person...much like the esteem I hold with my far right conservative friends.  Assholes but earnest and good for a debate every once in awhile.

Still...I follow this thread for news and am increasingly disappointed every time he posts...because he never posts news.

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