[ANN] IPO of MaidSafe: Entering the Future of the Decentralized Internet

[cakravothy]

iam read and get information, in maidsafecoin, support create token or asset use maidsafe technology is true or not
how i can create token or asset use maidsafe coin, you can explain for me

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[wrxbuzz]

TEST 12 is live, you can now run a Vault from home if you have enough bandwidth. You can always connect to the network as a Client and upload data and more.

https://safenetforum.org/t/maidsafe-dev-update-february-2-2017-test-12/12378

Enjoy!@!

You have endless tests in alpha test, when will you go into beta test? next year? And can we see real safecoin in 2020? It is miserable to wait for so long time.

[YoyodyneSystems]

On price :

Market seems strong on Polo but if the market mover plans to take the price up massively I am sure they must know that the window to do it this year is small. BTC will probably head over 2k USD in June or July and the best window for MAID's rise is probably going to be mid February through late march at best.

[ComponY]

On price :

Market seems strong on Polo but if the market mover plans to take the price up massively I am sure they must know that the window to do it this year is small. BTC will probably head over 2k USD in June or July and the best window for MAID's rise is probably going to be mid February through late march at best.

I hope MAID can be done soon, so our tokens will be more expensive and pump along with bitcoin. IMO maid it will be top 5 coin, maybe 4th, after btc, eth and xrp, better than ltc.

[yufu571]

MAID is a promising project! glad to hold MAID more than 2 years~

[zeeman]

iam read and get information, in maidsafecoin, support create token or asset use maidsafe technology is true or not
how i can create token or asset use maidsafe coin, you can explain for me

currently you can not create a token on SAFE. At least not one that is movable from 1 address to the other (change of ownership). This is upcoming though, from that moment people can implement alt-coins on the system. One user (see link) is creating a protocol on SAFE which allows for exactly that. There are a lot of options, even proof-of-work without a blockchain (SAFE doesn't have a blockchain).

https://safenetforum.org/t/on-creating-safe-alt-coins/7192

[zeeman]

TEST 12 is live, you can now run a Vault from home if you have enough bandwidth. You can always connect to the network as a Client and upload data and more.

https://safenetforum.org/t/maidsafe-dev-update-february-2-2017-test-12/12378

Enjoy!@!

You have endless tests in alpha test, when will you go into beta test? next year? And can we see real safecoin in 2020? It is miserable to wait for so long time.

Alpha is just Alpha. It lets you connect to nodes (Vaults) in a datacenter controlled by Maidsafe. They will sell this technology to companies as well (business to business). See it as a local SAFE Network. Maidsafe can't read your data on Alpha 1. Same for local SAFE Networks, when a company has 25.000 computers on a network in 3 countries, a local SAFE Network would make things very secure. All data is encrypted locally on the user's computer. So even when a hacker breaks in to the network, they need to get into the machine of an employee to install a keylogger an steal data. This is quite a big barrier and probably way more secure than what companies do these days.    

About the real SAFE Network: They could move to Alpha 2 and let people run Vaults from home, but the issue is with "data integrity". Your account is made up of personal files and when they're gone after several days you probably won't like it (your wallet will be a personal file as well!) . That is currently a big problem with Freenet, Usenet and BitTorrent. Maidsafe said that they want to fix this before they move to BETA status. The solution is "datachain" probably with "archive nodes". The datachain contains a list of all hashes of all files on the network. The archive nodes are paid to store as much data as they can. So they make it so secure that even after a complete global internet blackout the network could still reboot with all data recovered.

Implementing "Disjoint Groups" took over 3 months. it was a really big refactor of Routing. But it does makes things way more secure. The lower quote is true now, if an attacker controls 10% of all nodes they have only a 0.43% change to intercept a message from a certain group. This was 70% with the old routing.   

The group messages do not provide a high level of protection against attacks on the network, even under the additional assumptions that routes are disjoint and that a quorum of the individual messages need to be intercepted. Assume that an attacker controls 10% of all nodes in the network, and group size is 8 and quorum size is 5. Consider a section message sent via 10 hops.

In that scenario, the chance to intercept any given group request is 71%. With the section-to-section hops proposed here, it will be just 0.43%. Further adjusting the section size and quorum size parameters, this can be reduced to a negligible number, making this kind of attack virtually impossible.      

This is typically Maidsafe: they see a good solution to make things better, they work hard and test test test and even more test before they release. They did yesterday with TEST 12 and the network is very stable.

So, long story short: For BETA we''ll need "Datachain" and "Node age" for both security reasons and data integrity. When they fix that (won't be again 3 months I hope  ) they will really kick ass as a fully P2P, fully encrypted, fully decentralized network.

https://github.com/maidsafe/rfcs/blob/master/text/0045-node-ageing/0045-node-ageing.md

https://github.com/maidsafe/rfcs/blob/master/text/0029-data-chains.md/0029-data-chains.md

https://github.com/maidsafe/rfcs/blob/master/text/0037-disjoint-groups/0037-disjoint-groups.md

[metropolit]

Alpha is just Alpha. It lets you connect to nodes (Vaults) in a datacenter controlled by Maidsafe. They will sell this technology to companies as well (business to business). See it as a local SAFE Network. Maidsafe can't read your data on Alpha 1. Same for local SAFE Networks, when a company has 25.000 computers on a network in 3 countries, a local SAFE Network would make things very secure. All data is encrypted locally on the user's computer. So even when a hacker breaks in to the network, they need to get into the machine of an employee to install a keylogger an steal data. This is quite a big barrier and probably way more secure than what companies do these days.    

About the real SAFE Network: They could move to Alpha 2 and let people run Vaults from home, but the issue is with "data integrity". Your account is made up of personal files and when they're gone after several days you probably won't like it (your wallet will be a personal file as well!) . That is currently a big problem with Freenet, Usenet and BitTorrent. Maidsafe said that they want to fix this before they move to BETA status. The solution is "datachain" probably with "archive nodes". The datachain contains a list of all hashes of all files on the network. The archive nodes are paid to store as much data as they can. So they make it so secure that even after a complete global internet blackout the network could still reboot with all data recovered.

Implementing "Disjoint Groups" took over 3 months. it was a really big refactor of Routing. But it does makes things way more secure. The lower quote is true now, if an attacker controls 10% of all nodes they have only a 0.43% change to intercept a message from a certain group. This was 70% with the old routing.   

This is typically Maidsafe: they see a good solution to make things better, they work hard and test test test and even more test before they release. They did yesterday with TEST 12 and the network is very stable.

So, long story short: For BETA we''ll need "Datachain" and "Node age" for both security reasons and data integrity. When they fix that (won't be again 3 months I hope  ) they will really kick ass as a fully P2P, fully encrypted, fully decentralized network.

https://github.com/maidsafe/rfcs/blob/master/text/0045-node-ageing/0045-node-ageing.md

https://github.com/maidsafe/rfcs/blob/master/text/0029-data-chains.md/0029-data-chains.md

https://github.com/maidsafe/rfcs/blob/master/text/0037-disjoint-groups/0037-disjoint-groups.md

Thnx for that detailed info, really great news for MAID, soon to tha moooon!

[zeeman]

TEST 12 is offline. It was successful. "Disjoint Groups" is proven to work correctly, same for "Resource proof". My guess is that we'll see TEST 12B in the coming days when some issues in Crust (low IP-layer) are fixed.  

[zeeman]

Here's the full interview:  https://safenetforum.org/t/safe-crossroads-podcast-35-viv-rajkumar-cto-maidsafe/12379

[motodor]

Here's the full interview:  https://safenetforum.org/t/safe-crossroads-podcast-35-viv-rajkumar-cto-maidsafe/12379

Interesting information, probably this year MaidSafe will conquer new heights again, I think that these little tokens of my investment portfolio should be possibly abroad in 30k and 40k can and will be taken this year

also subscribe to your opinion ... coin has a future ... I think soon I shall buy a coin ...

[iCEBREAKER]

TEST 12 is offline. It was successful. "Disjoint Groups" is proven to work correctly, same for "Resource proof". My guess is that we'll see TEST 12B in the coming days when some issues in Crust (low IP-layer) are fixed.  

Still relevant:

Maidsafe when?

test n+1

where n -> ∞

[metropolit]

retesting 15k highs moon incoming i think.

[Wesiematic]

TEST 12 is offline. It was successful. "Disjoint Groups" is proven to work correctly, same for "Resource proof". My guess is that we'll see TEST 12B in the coming days when some issues in Crust (low IP-layer) are fixed.  

Good news nice to hear, the future is coming near.

[ibcrypto]

If/when an entity/organization announces leveraging MaidSAFE Vaults you will see this catapult into the stratosphere.

I hope the MaidSAFE folks are working on such efforts.  AirBitz and Kim.Com have hinted but nothing concrete as of yet.

Fingers Crossed!

[HongKong]

Maid is the only coin that has the potential to go up in popularity because of the community involvement like Monero.

I thought that Maid was featured on the T.V show called Silicon Valley" or something similar?

[zeeman]

https://twitter.com/safenetforum/status/829387937636823040

This is great news. Several projects are waiting for "mutable data" and the option to transfer ownership of data/addresses in the network. This opens up Pandora's box on SAFE. We've already seen some chat apps, reply fields in websites and more. There was already a "Thankscoin" as a test for a wallet-app, but moving coins to others was still hard to do:

https://safenetforum.org/t/introducing-safe-wallet-app/11764/74

I expect several projects/devs to come up with: wallets, coins, tokens, like-coins and more when this is implemented. Quite cool. It's also possible to start a website with a group of people this way and create several roles with restrictions on SAFE. Think of a blog where you as the owner can remove replies (like spam) and blacklist the spammer. Or "whitelist" a bunch of friends to your chat so it's all end-to-end encrypted and only visible to a small group of people that made it to the whitelist.  


EDIT: TEST 12B was launched about 30 minutes ago. It might be a bit technical for some people, but here's the topic:

https://safenetforum.org/t/safe-network-test-12b/12452

[zeeman]

https://safenetforum.org/t/maidsafe-dev-update-february-9-2017/12467

Enjoy!@!

[Johnny00]

Maid already so high, can it keep going though?

[zeeman]

https://safenetforum.org/t/safe-network-test-12b-network-offline-end-of-test/12452/141

I guess we'll see another testnet (12c) in the coming week before they move to Alpha 2.