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Author Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency  (Read 4628696 times)
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May 12, 2014, 10:18:29 AM
Last edit: May 12, 2014, 10:44:36 AM by eizh
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a ring signature coin should employ its mix net to supply ephemeral tunnels so that all transactors disappear into the crowd.

to avoid taint, privacy cannot be optional.  ideally it should be impossible to reuse an address.

monero is technically evolvable to deal with these points.


The one-time address is generated with using a hash that takes a random number as part of its input. That random number can be anything between 1 and a prime number near 2^252. Of course, "random" = pseudorandom, but I don't think it's realistically possible to generate the same key twice. So this feature is already enforced.

Another thing to make privacy mandatory is to force a minimum ambiguity factor, but I don't think that's a good idea. Ring signatures increase block size and most of the time an average user doesn't care about privacy beyond what's already provided by stealth addressing. And sometimes users deliberately want traceable payments.

I do think built-in (optional) I2P/Tor is desirable.
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May 12, 2014, 10:49:26 AM
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hum...Price seems to be inflated by the fact there is no pools yet. Like Riecoin at launch. Nice coin though.
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May 12, 2014, 10:55:57 AM
Last edit: May 12, 2014, 11:41:05 AM by smooth
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Another thing to make privacy mandatory is to force a minimum ambiguity factor, but I don't think that's a good idea. Ring signatures increase block size and most of the time an average user doesn't care about privacy beyond what's already provided by stealth addressing. And sometimes users deliberately want traceable payments.

I'm not sure how useful traceable payments are as a feature in reality, since they are only traceable back to the generated one-time address you mentioned earlier, not the public address. I guess it is possible that could be useful in some way, but I'm not sure how.

I think there may be some merit in a small minimum mix factor (maybe even 1) that doesn't require very large ring signatures but even a small factor produces a high degree of mixing over a sequence of hops (which a mix of zero does not)
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May 12, 2014, 10:56:09 AM
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When the GUI done, I think more than more people will  interest to this coin
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May 12, 2014, 11:39:25 AM
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I'm trying to get the wallet compiled on a debian system, but I'm stuck with this error:

Code:
[ 46%] Building CXX object src/CMakeFiles/connectivity_tool.dir/connectivity_tool/conn_tool.cpp.o
Linking CXX executable connectivity_tool
/tmp/ccKPm5bW.ltrans0.ltrans.o: In function `_ZN5boost15program_options16validation_errorC1ENS1_6kind_tERKSsS4_i.local.3931':
ccKPm5bW.ltrans0.o:(.text+0x5485): undefined reference to `boost::program_options::validation_error::get_template(boost::program_options::validation_error::kind_t)'
ccKPm5bW.ltrans0.o:(.text+0x549d): undefined reference to `boost::program_options::error_with_option_name::error_with_option_name(std::string const&, std::string const&, std::string const&, int)'
/tmp/ccKPm5bW.ltrans0.ltrans.o: In function `_ZN5boost15program_options22error_with_option_nameD2Ev.local.451':
ccKPm5bW.ltrans0.o:(.text+0x5fd3): undefined reference to `vtable for boost::program_options::error_with_option_name'
/tmp/ccKPm5bW.ltrans0.ltrans.o:(.rodata._ZTIN5boost15program_options15multiple_valuesE[_ZTIN5boost15program_options15multiple_valuesE]+0x10): undefined reference to `typeinfo for boost::program_options::error_with_option_name'
/tmp/ccKPm5bW.ltrans0.ltrans.o:(.rodata._ZTIN5boost15program_options20multiple_occurrencesE[_ZTIN5boost15program_options20multiple_occurrencesE]+0x10): undefined reference to `typeinfo for boost::program_options::error_with_option_name'
/tmp/ccKPm5bW.ltrans0.ltrans.o:(.rodata._ZTIN5boost15program_options15required_optionE[_ZTIN5boost15program_options15required_optionE]+0x10): undefined reference to `typeinfo for boost::program_options::error_with_option_name'
/tmp/ccKPm5bW.ltrans0.ltrans.o:(.rodata._ZTIN5boost15program_options14invalid_syntaxE[_ZTIN5boost15program_options14invalid_syntaxE]+0x10): undefined reference to `typeinfo for boost::program_options::error_with_option_name'
/tmp/ccKPm5bW.ltrans0.ltrans.o:(.rodata._ZTIN5boost15program_options25error_with_no_option_nameE[_ZTIN5boost15program_options25error_with_no_option_nameE]+0x10): undefined reference to `typeinfo for boost::program_options::error_with_option_name'
/tmp/ccKPm5bW.ltrans1.ltrans.o: In function `_ZN5boost15program_options22error_with_option_nameC2ERKS1_.local.1997':
ccKPm5bW.ltrans1.o:(.text+0x34fc): undefined reference to `vtable for boost::program_options::error_with_option_name'
/tmp/ccKPm5bW.ltrans1.ltrans.o:(.rodata._ZTIN5boost15program_options16validation_errorE[_ZTIN5boost15program_options16validation_errorE]+0x10): undefined reference to `typeinfo for boost::program_options::error_with_option_name'
/tmp/ccKPm5bW.ltrans6.ltrans.o:(.rodata+0x260): undefined reference to `boost::program_options::error_with_option_name::what() const'
/tmp/ccKPm5bW.ltrans6.ltrans.o:(.rodata+0x270): undefined reference to `boost::program_options::error_with_option_name::substitute_placeholders(std::string const&) const'
/tmp/ccKPm5bW.ltrans6.ltrans.o:(.rodata+0x2c8): undefined reference to `boost::program_options::error_with_option_name::what() const'
/tmp/ccKPm5bW.ltrans6.ltrans.o:(.rodata+0x2d8): undefined reference to `boost::program_options::error_with_option_name::substitute_placeholders(std::string const&) const'
/tmp/ccKPm5bW.ltrans7.ltrans.o: In function `_ZN5boost15program_options25basic_command_line_parserIcE3runEv.local.2862.14631':
ccKPm5bW.ltrans7.o:(.text+0x8e2): undefined reference to `boost::program_options::detail::cmdline::get_canonical_option_prefix()'
/tmp/ccKPm5bW.ltrans23.ltrans.o:(.rodata+0x20): undefined reference to `boost::program_options::error_with_option_name::what() const'
/tmp/ccKPm5bW.ltrans23.ltrans.o:(.rodata+0x30): undefined reference to `boost::program_options::error_with_option_name::substitute_placeholders(std::string const&) const'
/tmp/ccKPm5bW.ltrans23.ltrans.o:(.rodata+0x5a8): undefined reference to `boost::program_options::error_with_option_name::what() const'
/tmp/ccKPm5bW.ltrans23.ltrans.o:(.rodata+0x5b8): undefined reference to `boost::program_options::error_with_option_name::substitute_placeholders(std::string const&) const'
/tmp/ccKPm5bW.ltrans23.ltrans.o:(.rodata+0x8c0): undefined reference to `boost::program_options::error_with_option_name::what() const'
/tmp/ccKPm5bW.ltrans23.ltrans.o:(.rodata+0x8d0): undefined reference to `boost::program_options::error_with_option_name::substitute_placeholders(std::string const&) const'
/tmp/ccKPm5bW.ltrans23.ltrans.o:(.rodata+0x900): undefined reference to `boost::program_options::error_with_option_name::what() const'
/tmp/ccKPm5bW.ltrans23.ltrans.o:(.rodata+0x910): undefined reference to `boost::program_options::error_with_option_name::substitute_placeholders(std::string const&) const'
collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
make[3]: *** [src/connectivity_tool] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/<foo>/bitmonero/build/release'
make[2]: *** [src/CMakeFiles/connectivity_tool.dir/all] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/<foo>/bitmonero/build/release'
make[1]: *** [all] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/<foo>/bitmonero/build/release'
make: *** [build-release] Error 2

Someone has a hint for me?
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May 12, 2014, 11:48:33 AM
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Hashrate chart update.




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May 12, 2014, 11:55:36 AM
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IMO Bitmonero is the first clean launch, and I still didn't get why Monero is doing well and have chances to exist

there are many reasons why. Please read posts. summary below
1. tft did not communicate well.
2. tft created a coin with some problems. no test before launch.
3. bitmonero and monero are the exact same coin right now and have been
4. tft was ok with name change as the community that was present at that time did not like it
5. initial launch of bitmonero (same as monero) had difficulties. it simply a direct clone of bcn. some changes that were made by tft may have continued problems and are currently being worked on by current devs.
  emission curve -not what was promised by tft.  block confirmation time of 1 minute instead of two minutes, no gui at launch, no block explorer at launch, no pools at launch.
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May 12, 2014, 12:08:13 PM
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How to deposit MRO to cryptonote. I can't find my MRO deposit address
Can somebody help me

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May 12, 2014, 12:12:26 PM
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We have reviewed everything that is going on with the community and other CryptoNote coins. As Bitmonero/Monero is contributing to the development of applied aspects we're going to officially announce it as a CryptoNote currency.

We hope that the current confusion will be figured out among the community members.

However, we need a logo to add to the website. At least, 50x50 px.

https://forum.cryptonote.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=162&p=566#p566
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May 12, 2014, 12:31:12 PM
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How to deposit MRO to cryptonote. I can't find my MRO deposit address
Can somebody help me

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Under deposit for cryptonote currencies select MRO then your amount.

Next click generate deposit address and then copy that command to your simple wallet window.

The reason its like this is to prevent mistakes when sending so doing this generates the whole transfer code.
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May 12, 2014, 12:54:12 PM
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How to deposit MRO to cryptonote. I can't find my MRO deposit address
Can somebody help me

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Under deposit for cryptonote currencies select MRO then your amount.

Next click generate deposit address and then copy that command to your simple wallet window.

The reason its like this is to prevent mistakes when sending so doing this generates the whole transfer code.

think you very much...
It's too hard for the people who english is poor just like me..
hope the wallet GUI coming soon..
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May 12, 2014, 12:58:49 PM
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How to deposit MRO to cryptonote. I can't find my MRO deposit address
Can somebody help me

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Under deposit for cryptonote currencies select MRO then your amount.

Next click generate deposit address and then copy that command to your simple wallet window.

The reason its like this is to prevent mistakes when sending so doing this generates the whole transfer code.

think you very much...
It's too hard for the people who english is poor just like me..
hope the wallet GUI coming soon..

GUI is available to test, but if you dont know what your doing I would wait.
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May 12, 2014, 01:03:43 PM
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We have reviewed everything that is going on with the community and other CryptoNote coins. As Bitmonero/Monero is contributing to the development of applied aspects we're going to officially announce it as a CryptoNote currency.

We hope that the current confusion will be figured out among the community members.

However, we need a logo to add to the website. At least, 50x50 px.

https://forum.cryptonote.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=162&p=566#p566

Thank you. We will work on selecting a logo in the near future.

Code:
XMR: 44GBHzv6ZyQdJkjqZje6KLZ3xSyN1hBSFAnLP6EAqJtCRVzMzZmeXTC2AHKDS9aEDTRKmo6a6o9r9j86pYfhCWDkKjbtcns
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May 12, 2014, 01:23:18 PM
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We should voting to some big exchange like Mintpal
Asked, waiting for answer. But this can be a double-edged sword too (fast growth, fast-death).

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May 12, 2014, 01:24:46 PM
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ring signature? how to realize it?

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May 12, 2014, 01:30:15 PM
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Portuguese translation (fixed)  Wink

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May 12, 2014, 01:52:06 PM
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I want to buy some MRO under 10W sat.. Grin
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May 12, 2014, 01:54:58 PM
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I want to buy some MRO under 10W sat.. Grin

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May 12, 2014, 01:56:46 PM
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HJey guys,

I get: An established connection was aborted due to software in your host machine

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May 12, 2014, 02:06:05 PM
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Chinese translation of main thread : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=604293.msg6666474#msg6666474
Mining guide will be tranlated later.


Thank you, lisalee!

Chinese translation of mining guide: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=606148.msg6687754#msg6687754

And I also post the Chinese translation of mining guide in the Chinese translation of main thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=604293.msg6666565#msg6666565
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