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Author Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency  (Read 4650610 times)
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May 14, 2014, 04:52:35 AM
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So if one can't see the distribution of this coin how do we know there wasn't a giant premine or some way for the devs to just "counterfeit" coins en masse?  Huh

Easy, write the block chain explorer that hasn't yet bubbled up to the top of the development list for the devs that are working hard (and with no bounties) on implementing and extending a new to the most of us coin technology.  This crypto is not like btc so tools like a block explorer have to be created without the aide of copy and paste.  80 + pages of comments seem to make this fairly clear.

Too blunt?

You don't have to have a web-based blockchain explorer. Type "help" in the daemon and you can get the commands to print out blockchain data right on the terminal. An explorer doesn't give unaccessible information either here or in Bitcoin. It's just an aggregator.
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May 14, 2014, 04:55:10 AM
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I'd like to see a bounty raised for a block chain explorer. I don't think this is a dev issue as it doesn't really involve protocol changes. Let's leave the dev's to fixing their laundry list of more important things.

I'll put up 70 MRO toward a web-based block explorer.

I realize that we can get info from the daemon or wallet, but it will be convenient for those that do not have them open to instead be able to go to a website.
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May 14, 2014, 05:01:33 AM
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So if one can't see the distribution of this coin how do we know there wasn't a giant premine or some way for the devs to just "counterfeit" coins en masse?  Huh

Easy, write the block chain explorer that hasn't yet bubbled up to the top of the development list for the devs that are working hard (and with no bounties) on implementing and extending a new to the most of us coin technology.  This crypto is not like btc so tools like a block explorer have to be created without the aide of copy and paste.  80 + pages of comments seem to make this fairly clear.

Too blunt?

You don't have to have a web-based blockchain explorer. Type "help" in the daemon and you can get the commands to print out blockchain data right on the terminal. An explorer doesn't give unaccessible information either here or in Bitcoin. It's just an aggregator.

True.  That said, while I'm comfortable at the command line, even that is a little obtuse for me.  Totally works, no argument, just not user friendly for analysis.  And I'm a person who doesn't really see anything wrong with the current wallet.  It's not hard to use (though the batch file for windows users should be with the downloads).

Edit: I will add that while I replied, Aminorex's answer about the stealth addressing is the one that matters, as usual...
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May 14, 2014, 06:01:35 AM
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Vote on icurrex if you haven't: https://www.icurrex.com/vote

You have to register to vote, but it's quick. Seems to be a new but remarkably polished site. Time will tell if they're secure, but I do like their attitude. They seem to understand that MRO is something new, so they might actually manage to successfully integrate it.
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May 14, 2014, 07:28:34 AM
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Markets MRO/BTC & MRO/LTC added:
https://www.swaphole.com/#!market/MRO/BTC
https://www.swaphole.com/#!market/MRO/LTC


3 Chart Types - Trailing Stop - 2FA - Fast Support
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May 14, 2014, 07:32:15 AM
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Markets MRO/BTC & MRO/LTC added:
https://www.swaphole.com/#!market/MRO/BTC
https://www.swaphole.com/#!market/MRO/LTC


3 Chart Types - Trailing Stop - 2FA - Fast Support


This is good news . Does anyone know who runs this exchange?
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May 14, 2014, 07:33:32 AM
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This is good news . Does anyone know who runs this exchange?

The one who posted  Cheesy
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May 14, 2014, 07:35:18 AM
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This is good news . Does anyone know who runs this exchange?

The one who posted  Cheesy

haha  Grin

cheers!
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May 14, 2014, 07:37:33 AM
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is there any pool yet or just solomining ?!
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May 14, 2014, 07:42:14 AM
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This is good news . Does anyone know who runs this exchange?

The one who posted  Cheesy

wzttide was in the IRC channel asking for MRO to test integration, so this is indeed a functioning CryptoNote exchange. It has more advanced functions like stop loss orders that aren't on Cryptsy/MintPal/etc. Added to OP. Smiley
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May 14, 2014, 07:45:42 AM
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This is good news . Does anyone know who runs this exchange?

The one who posted  Cheesy

wzttide was in the IRC channel asking for MRO to test integration, so this is indeed a functioning CryptoNote exchange. It has more advanced functions like stop loss orders that aren't on Cryptsy/MintPal/etc. Added to OP. Smiley

Thanks Smiley

Yes, we have a lot of features and yes, we'll definitly work on the look. We just think it's way more important to provide you more features and security instead of good-looing bling-bling UI Cheesy
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May 14, 2014, 07:53:39 AM
Last edit: May 14, 2014, 08:54:38 AM by David Latapie
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You incorrectly credited me on the website (it was smooth). Also, it should be ./simplewallet not ./simpleminer.
I should not post at 3AM Sad Sorry all, this is fixed now, thank eizh for corrections.

Outdated compiler (it doesn't seem to support -std=c++11). Update to a newer g++.
Would it be a good idea to update the install script so that it install the latest gcc version? If this is the only requirement, it would help older version to have monero.
No, it's anonymous (which is the point Tongue). A separate public key is generated for each input and they're difficult to link by blockchain analysis.
So we will never have richlist for monero, right?

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May 14, 2014, 08:00:38 AM
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Can someone explain to me why on earth you would have a platform-dependent blockchain/wallet file format?

It's not that hard to make a change which provides both backward-compatibility and platform-independence, but those who can do it mostly have other priorities.

No, I mean, it's not that it's "not hard" to do. It's that you sort of have to try not to. I'm assuming there's a reason.

boost::serialization isn't cross-platform
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May 14, 2014, 08:34:26 AM
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I am baffled by the complete lack of instructions for the software associated with this coin. Can someone put some instructions on how to get started with the wallet and mining? I am sure there is something within one of these 80+ pages but do we all have to reinvent the wheel?

seriously man...sooo frustrating...
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May 14, 2014, 08:47:39 AM
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I am baffled by the complete lack of instructions for the software associated with this coin. Can someone put some instructions on how to get started with the wallet and mining? I am sure there is something within one of these 80+ pages but do we all have to reinvent the wheel?

seriously man...sooo frustrating...

What are you having trouble with and I can likely help, its not that difficult but I agree it takes a moment to learn rather that a copy paste qt.
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May 14, 2014, 08:48:56 AM
Last edit: May 14, 2014, 11:02:11 PM by David Latapie
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thank you so much i appreciate it alot, but for some reason the link for the blockchain is broken is there another link?
mega oftentimes does not download. Check this up-to-date mirror: bit.ly/monero-starter-pack

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May 14, 2014, 09:23:59 AM
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I'm not focusing on that bug, I addressed it because someone else brought it up. If I was going to bitch constantly about one thing, it would be NOT FUCKING COMPILING ON LINUX.  Undecided

Okay I missed that one (it does compiler for me on Ubuntu). Can you be more specific?


Give me just a minute. I'll attempt to compile it yet again and then post the results.

Here you are. I copied the whole thing, not just the relevant bits, in case I would have missed something: http://pastebin.com/Nc5XrpEH

Wow. Just... wow. I did a "make clean", then tried "make build-debug" just for fun... I think the devs failed so hard they won: http://pastebin.com/c9X2H7a9

Anyone have a solution for the above?

Did you try gcc 4.8.x as suggested?
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May 14, 2014, 09:32:13 AM
Last edit: May 14, 2014, 09:48:29 AM by srwt
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I don't have ".../AppData/bitmonero" folder, what should I do? In what place blockchain.bin should be placed?
Also, with "show_hr" command I got "Mining is not started". I'm starting by bat-file from "getting started".

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May 14, 2014, 09:54:55 AM
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I'm not focusing on that bug, I addressed it because someone else brought it up. If I was going to bitch constantly about one thing, it would be NOT FUCKING COMPILING ON LINUX.  Undecided

Okay I missed that one (it does compiler for me on Ubuntu). Can you be more specific?


Give me just a minute. I'll attempt to compile it yet again and then post the results.

Here you are. I copied the whole thing, not just the relevant bits, in case I would have missed something: http://pastebin.com/Nc5XrpEH

Wow. Just... wow. I did a "make clean", then tried "make build-debug" just for fun... I think the devs failed so hard they won: http://pastebin.com/c9X2H7a9

Anyone have a solution for the above?

Did you try gcc 4.8.x as suggested?

Did you even look at the first pastebin? You might be able to blame the compiler for the debug build failure, but saying a compiler bug is responsible for the regular build failure is ludicrous.

Whether or not its a problem with the compiler has to be eliminated. If you refuse to eliminate it as a factor then we will end up with the same discussion over and over; that is the ludicrous part. Come back when you're ready to fix your problem, otherwise just deal with it yourself. 
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May 14, 2014, 10:05:17 AM
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I'm not focusing on that bug, I addressed it because someone else brought it up. If I was going to bitch constantly about one thing, it would be NOT FUCKING COMPILING ON LINUX.  Undecided

Okay I missed that one (it does compiler for me on Ubuntu). Can you be more specific?


Give me just a minute. I'll attempt to compile it yet again and then post the results.

Here you are. I copied the whole thing, not just the relevant bits, in case I would have missed something: http://pastebin.com/Nc5XrpEH

Wow. Just... wow. I did a "make clean", then tried "make build-debug" just for fun... I think the devs failed so hard they won: http://pastebin.com/c9X2H7a9

Anyone have a solution for the above?

Did you try gcc 4.8.x as suggested?

Did you even look at the first pastebin? You might be able to blame the compiler for the debug build failure, but saying a compiler bug is responsible for the regular build failure is ludicrous.

Whether or not its a problem with the compiler has to be eliminated. If you refuse to eliminate it as a factor then we will end up with the same discussion over and over; that is the ludicrous part. Come back when you're ready to fix your problem, otherwise just deal with it yourself.  

Okay, your faucet is broken. So the obvious thing to do is get the engine in your car checked; anything else is ludicrous. You're asking me to hunt down an old ass package or custom compile an old version of GCC - while the obvious problem is "shit ain't being linked correctly."

Either you know jack shit about C/C++ and coding in general, or you like wasting people's time.

Such is life, either do something about it or just whine until the your mouth froths with saliva. I'm sure you find the latter more worthwhile. Cheers. Smiley
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