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Author Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency  (Read 4650704 times)
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May 13, 2014, 04:11:11 PM
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im having a really big problem trying to install on ubuntu 12.04? does anyone have a guide step by step commands would be greatly appricated.

I had the same problem. The fix was to eventually install boost 1.55 and i think g++ 4.8

anyway try this. It can be found on monero.cc :

git clone https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero

cd ~ && wget https://www.dropbox.com/s/3pclp7sm94edmxl/install_monero.sh && chmod +x ./install_monero.sh && ./install_monero.sh

The second line  will take some time but it will manage to install them. To be sincere i havent test this line on 12.04. I did it manually somehow by adding repos...I cant remember exackly what repos i added.



Yah i tried that exact line they had, but it seems like it not working with 12.04 im very confused. driving me crazy!
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May 13, 2014, 04:18:17 PM
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My GOD,the wallet is very very wierd and too complicated to operate,Why dont release a wallet-qt as Bitcoin?

because this coin is not a bitcoin clone and so there isnt a wallet-qt to just copy and release. There is a bounty for a GUI wallet and there is already an experimental windows wallet...

Glad to know that. More ppl will get into MRO with a user-friendly wallet.
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May 13, 2014, 04:20:29 PM
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im having a really big problem trying to install on ubuntu 12.04? does anyone have a guide step by step commands would be greatly appricated.

I had the same problem. The fix was to eventually install boost 1.55 and i think g++ 4.8

anyway try this. It can be found on monero.cc :

git clone https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero

cd ~ && wget https://www.dropbox.com/s/3pclp7sm94edmxl/install_monero.sh && chmod +x ./install_monero.sh && ./install_monero.sh

The second line  will take some time but it will manage to install them. To be sincere i havent test this line on 12.04. I did it manually somehow by adding repos...I cant remember exackly what repos i added.



Yah i tried that exact line they had, but it seems like it not working with 12.04 im very confused. driving me crazy!



when you try to build what errors do you get?
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May 13, 2014, 04:36:59 PM
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My GOD,the wallet is very very wierd and too complicated to operate,Why dont release a wallet-qt as Bitcoin?

because this coin is not a bitcoin clone and so there isnt a wallet-qt to just copy and release. There is a bounty for a GUI wallet and there is already an experimental windows wallet...

I like this about Monero, but it seems it was written by cryptographers, not programmers. The damned thing doesn't even compile on Arch, and there are several bugs, like command history not working on Linux. The crypto ideas are top-notch, but the implementation is not.

I'd rather have a cryptographer write my new cryptocurrency and implement novel ideas and then have a programmer fix the bugs.

The other option is to have a programmer write a new cryptocurrency without sound cryptographic theories...that doesn't sound like a winning combination.

You can easily fix bugs, but you can't easily fix fundamental conceptual problems.
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May 13, 2014, 04:40:44 PM
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like command history not working on Linux

rlwrap works great

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May 13, 2014, 04:56:04 PM
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PR has been given to fix merge mining with FCN, but I want to investigate more thoroughly before a merge is made.

https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero/pull/7

Code:
XMR: 44GBHzv6ZyQdJkjqZje6KLZ3xSyN1hBSFAnLP6EAqJtCRVzMzZmeXTC2AHKDS9aEDTRKmo6a6o9r9j86pYfhCWDkKjbtcns
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May 13, 2014, 04:56:26 PM
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My GOD,the wallet is very very wierd and too complicated to operate,Why dont release a wallet-qt as Bitcoin?

because this coin is not a bitcoin clone and so there isnt a wallet-qt to just copy and release. There is a bounty for a GUI wallet and there is already an experimental windows wallet...

I like this about Monero, but it seems it was written by cryptographers, not programmers. The damned thing doesn't even compile on Arch, and there are several bugs, like command history not working on Linux. The crypto ideas are top-notch, but the implementation is not.

I'd rather have a cryptographer write my new cryptocurrency and implement novel ideas and then have a programmer fix the bugs.

The other option is to have a programmer write a new cryptocurrency without sound cryptographic theories...that doesn't sound like a winning combination.

You can easily fix bugs, but you can't easily fix fundamental conceptual problems.

Very true. But they should have gotten a programmer on their team before they released it.

pretty easy to add programmers after the fact Smiley
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May 13, 2014, 05:02:46 PM
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Can i send a payment using MSWindows without having to type the recipient's address letter-by-letter? 'Cause no copy-paste works inside the cmd wallet window.

any help would be appreciated!

Behold the Tangle Mysteries! Dare to know It's truth.

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May 13, 2014, 05:06:11 PM
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Can i send a payment using MSWindows without having to type the recipient's address letter-by-letter? 'Cause no copy-paste works inside the cmd wallet window.

any help would be appreciated!

Right click on the title bar at the top, then go to edit, and paste should be there.
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May 13, 2014, 05:24:20 PM
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Can i send a payment using MSWindows without having to type the recipient's address letter-by-letter? 'Cause no copy-paste works inside the cmd wallet window.

any help would be appreciated!

Or alt + spacebar. Edit ==> paste.
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May 13, 2014, 05:26:13 PM
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Can i send a payment using MSWindows without having to type the recipient's address letter-by-letter? 'Cause no copy-paste works inside the cmd wallet window.

any help would be appreciated!

Click the black cmd icon top left on cmd window.  goto properties and check quick edit mode and insert.

Copy wallet address and then click right mouse button to paste into command window.






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May 13, 2014, 05:28:23 PM
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@mickey_miner, dreamspark, psterryl: thank you!!  Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley

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May 13, 2014, 05:50:30 PM
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I just found this coin and I think it's absolutely great to see coins developed by cryptographers.
Perfect anonymity is the next big thing for a real liberal market. Haters/Gov officials are definitely gonna comment with criminal abuse etc., but freedom is much more important.

You need a decent wallet though. Add stability and a good client to the cryptographic ideas and this is gonna be one of my favorites.
Also CPU coins (asic resistant hopefully) are great anyway.
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May 13, 2014, 05:52:54 PM
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Testnet coin has been started here:
https://github.com/LucasJones/testnotecoin

This genesis block, etc will eventually be integrated into the main wallet under a --testnet feature

Code:
XMR: 44GBHzv6ZyQdJkjqZje6KLZ3xSyN1hBSFAnLP6EAqJtCRVzMzZmeXTC2AHKDS9aEDTRKmo6a6o9r9j86pYfhCWDkKjbtcns
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May 13, 2014, 06:02:14 PM
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Testnet coin has been started here:
https://github.com/LucasJones/testnotecoin

This genesis block, etc will eventually be integrated into the main wallet under a --testnet feature

what is testnet coin ?
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May 13, 2014, 06:09:17 PM
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Testnet coin has been started here:
https://github.com/LucasJones/testnotecoin

This genesis block, etc will eventually be integrated into the main wallet under a --testnet feature

what is testnet coin ?

Just used for testing features eg bitcoin testnet, we're using it for pool testing right now.

Code:
XMR: 44GBHzv6ZyQdJkjqZje6KLZ3xSyN1hBSFAnLP6EAqJtCRVzMzZmeXTC2AHKDS9aEDTRKmo6a6o9r9j86pYfhCWDkKjbtcns
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May 13, 2014, 06:26:22 PM
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4 hours of mining with 120 hashrate : zero coins.
Normal?

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May 13, 2014, 06:35:56 PM
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by the way like the ideas here, looks interesting - the Anon aspect is way over played in my opinion , when i say that i think:

1.people don't care (anyone done a poll here?)

2. there are other economic and political factors that weigh in that actually degrade the idea but i won't go into them.



but the new PoW looks interesting. read the white paper.


great to see the small spark of innovation on this forum rare indeed these days., after all that's what it for?

An altcoin needs to justify its existence -- it needs to do more than what Bitcoin can do. Much more. Most coins don't, but that's because they're pump-and-dump nonsense, even to their creators.

Monero is going places because it has something that Bitcoin doesn't -- that thing being privacy. Other things like the PoW are bonuses, but they're minor details in the long run. Eventually it'll probably get GPU'd and then ASIC'd and become like Bitcoin. But the privacy stays.
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May 13, 2014, 06:46:47 PM
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Monero is going places because it has something that Bitcoin doesn't -- that thing being privacy. Other things like the PoW are bonuses, but they're minor details in the long run. Eventually it'll probably get GPU'd and then ASIC'd and become like Bitcoin. But the privacy stays.

ASIC is fatal for a privacy-oriented alt coin, because it means centralization, which means control of the coin ends up in the hands of the end-user's adversary. 

Give a man a fish and he eats for a day.  Give a man a Poisson distribution and he eats at random times independent of one another, at a constant known rate.
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May 13, 2014, 06:56:16 PM
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ASIC is fatal for a privacy-oriented alt coin, because it means centralization, which means control of the coin ends up in the hands of the end-user's adversary. 

Honestly, you could say the same thing about CPU coins. There are enough idiots out there with computers and who run unpatched software or download obvious malware that it's not hard to make botnets. Get enough mining for one entity, and you have centralization.

The possibility of centralization is not presently avoidable.  The inevitability of centralization is presently avoidable.  The reality is that what people do is trade off cost and benefit.  What matters to me personally is that Monero privacy should become realistically usable, and not destroyed by avoidable threats.  A defense-in-depth strategy is required to deal with unconstrained threats, to make the cost of defeating the system greater than the benefit of defeating the system.


Give a man a fish and he eats for a day.  Give a man a Poisson distribution and he eats at random times independent of one another, at a constant known rate.
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