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November 17, 2017, 11:23:11 AM
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There's the --db-salvage flag, which has to be applied to monerod.exe from the command line, but it's unlikely that it'll "uncorrupt" your blockchain. However, if you'd like to give it a shot, it's done as follows.

1. Exit the GUI and make sure to close the daemon as well.

2. Browse to the directory monero-wallet-gui.exe is located.

3. Open a new command prompt. This is done by first making sure your cursor isn't located on any of the files and subsequently doing SHIFT + right click. It will give you an option to "Open command window here".

4. Now type -> monerod.exe --db-salvage

5. If that doesn't work, you, unfortunately have to resync from scratch. A resync is easily triggered by deleting C:\ProgramData\bitmonero.

Whilst you're syncing the blockchain using the daemon (monerod.exe), always make sure to exit it gracefully. If you're using the CLI, this is done by simply typing "exit" into monerod.exe. In addition, if you're using the GUI, simply click on the x to close the GUI and make sure to close the daemon as well.

Thanks dEBRUYNE for the fast response! Unfortunately now luck with the --db-salvage flag, so re-syncing, new ssd drive so much faster than my old hdd.

I did not perform a forced exit from the daemon, just left it running on a machine and used the save command regularly - then when i went back to check it several hours later the daemon had just closed and would not re-initialize, would this just be a glitch? or is there anything i could check to stop it happening again? Cheers

Are you sure your system didn't perform an automatic restart because of some updates?

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or is there anything i could check to stop it happening again

Make sure to check whether there are any automatic restarts queued, because Windows will just ignore any program that is running and force quit it.

P.S. An SSD is significantly faster than an HDD with respect to syncing. Thus, if possible, always make sure to sync it to an SSD.

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November 17, 2017, 12:01:30 PM
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Bitcoin, Litecoin Devs May Integrate Monero’s Confidential Transactions

https://themerkle.com/bitcoin-litecoin-devs-may-integrate-moneros-confidential-transactions/

Most cryptocurrency users acknowledge that both Bitcoin and Litecoin lack serious privacy features. Neither of these popular currencies mask user identities completely, whereas altcoins such as Monero do exactly that. It turns out we may see some of Monero’s technology show up in both Bitcoin and Litecoin soon. Confidential Transactions are an option well worth exploring by the developers of both currencies. It’s an interesting situation, to say the very least............

Can Confidential Transactions (CT) Power Bitcoin Past Privacy Coins?

http://www.cryptoanalyst.co/2017/11/17/ct-power-bitcoin-past-privacy-coins/?ref=rcrypto
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November 17, 2017, 01:30:51 PM
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Bitcoin, Litecoin Devs May Integrate Monero’s Confidential Transactions

https://themerkle.com/bitcoin-litecoin-devs-may-integrate-moneros-confidential-transactions/

Most cryptocurrency users acknowledge that both Bitcoin and Litecoin lack serious privacy features. Neither of these popular currencies mask user identities completely, whereas altcoins such as Monero do exactly that. It turns out we may see some of Monero’s technology show up in both Bitcoin and Litecoin soon. Confidential Transactions are an option well worth exploring by the developers of both currencies. It’s an interesting situation, to say the very least............

Can Confidential Transactions (CT) Power Bitcoin Past Privacy Coins?

http://www.cryptoanalyst.co/2017/11/17/ct-power-bitcoin-past-privacy-coins/?ref=rcrypto

Says a lot about XMR if it's starting to lead BTC development.
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November 17, 2017, 01:32:25 PM
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Was it here or the speculation thread where it was mentioned that CTs won't really work for Bitcoin/Litecoin since not all transactions are confidential?

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November 17, 2017, 02:19:46 PM
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Bitcoin, Litecoin Devs May Integrate Monero’s Confidential Transactions

https://themerkle.com/bitcoin-litecoin-devs-may-integrate-moneros-confidential-transactions/

Most cryptocurrency users acknowledge that both Bitcoin and Litecoin lack serious privacy features. Neither of these popular currencies mask user identities completely, whereas altcoins such as Monero do exactly that. It turns out we may see some of Monero’s technology show up in both Bitcoin and Litecoin soon. Confidential Transactions are an option well worth exploring by the developers of both currencies. It’s an interesting situation, to say the very least............

Can Confidential Transactions (CT) Power Bitcoin Past Privacy Coins?

http://www.cryptoanalyst.co/2017/11/17/ct-power-bitcoin-past-privacy-coins/?ref=rcrypto

Well it looks like the drooling masses will be catching on now.

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As Litecoin creator Charlie Lee noted just days ago, fungibility is the “only feature of good money that Bitcoin/Litecoin is missing.”

    I'm excited to see progress on Confidential Transactions. Fungibility is the only feature of good money that Bitcoin/Litecoin is missing.

    I look forward to adding this to Litecoin when it is ready. 🚀 And this can be done with a soft fork. Stay tuned!

    — Charlie Lee [LTC] (@SatoshiLite) November 14, 2017

We have been yelling Fungability from the rooftops for years but no your going to be told from every n00b that shows up in the scene all about it like it's some new idea. Lol

I'm not sure how it will work out though being added to such established chains?

@Smooth, can you explain how effective this would be on BTC?

Does anyone know if it would be mandatory or what mixing level they would enforce and how they would deal with the massive bloat it would add? Do they see the new block reduction (forgot the name dammit) thats being discussed as an offset?

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November 17, 2017, 03:06:23 PM
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Implementing the cutting edge technology and updates is what makes a crypto great so monero should also have some updates and new features as other coins are implementing its anonymous transaction features
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November 17, 2017, 03:21:28 PM
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Any news regarding monero?

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The main advantage of Fonero is the use of Ring Confidential Transactions (RingCT) for all transactions. Also, all the problems and mistakes of Monero developers were taken into account and there are no problems inside the blockchain
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2413943.0;topicseen

They get less and less creative with naming these charades.

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November 17, 2017, 07:35:04 PM
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Bitcoin runs on drama, Monero runs on comedy  Grin
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November 17, 2017, 10:38:59 PM
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November 18, 2017, 12:21:57 AM
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fonero.org
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We have it all!  Premine, masternodes, the works!


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Dammit, now I'm hungry. Tongue

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November 18, 2017, 01:29:39 AM
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Should Have Used Margin, especially when bubbles melt.

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- Pay any Bitcoin address privately with a little help of Monero:
 on.your.mark, get set, go!
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November 18, 2017, 11:39:07 AM
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fonero.org
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We have it all!  Premine, masternodes, the works!

ETN doesn't have MNs.  Cheesy
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November 18, 2017, 11:51:59 AM
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fonero.org
Phonero = Phony Monero
We have it all!  Premine, masternodes, the works!

ETN doesn't have MNs.  Cheesy
Instead they have a single masternode that can revert transactions every time someone steals some ETH or they fuck up beyond repair.

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November 18, 2017, 11:56:21 AM
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^^^ Electroneum (ETN) the mobile crypto... it's an XMR clone.
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November 18, 2017, 11:56:26 AM
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@Smooth, can you explain how effective this would be on BTC?

1. The report itself is quite misleading. Confidential Transactions was initially invented by gmaxwell for Bitcoin, not by or for Monero. Its concepts were incorporated along with ring signatures by shen to create RingCT, which we then deployed (in January 2017). So it is quite inaccurate to say that those considering adopting CT in Bitcoin are going to be adopting something from Monero. It is accurate to say the Monero is the first coin to actually deploy a CT-based system on a significant scale.

2. Bitcoin (and Litecoin) are only proposing to use CT, not RingCT, which means it will only hide amounts. Go look at a Bitcoin chain explorer and cover up the amounts. Everything else about the transaction (sender, recipient) will still visible as-is. Obviously that is a lot less privacy than Monero, but still an improvement over what Bitcoin does now.

3. As far as tx size, that is a significant obstacle for BTC since even with this new, more-efficient CT it would still increase typical tx size (and all that comes with that such as fees) by a significant factor, maybe 2-3x. I suspect there will be significant difficulty gaining consensus to do this, or if it is done it won't be used much and will therefore suffer also from chain analysis and fungibility issues (as do all optional privacy systems). In the short term LTC has less of an issue there since it is much less used and has no shortage of chain space and much lower fees. But longer term LTC would run into the same problems.
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November 18, 2017, 11:57:11 AM
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^^^ Electroneum (ETN) the mobile crypto... it's an XMR clone.
Sorry, my bad, I misread ETN for ETH, it's hard to keep track.

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November 18, 2017, 12:19:19 PM
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@Smooth, can you explain how effective this [Confidential Transactions] would be on BTC?

1. The report itself is quite misleading. Confidential Transactions was initially invented by gmaxwell for Bitcoin, not by or for Monero. Its concepts were incorporated along with ring signatures by shen to create RingCT, which we then deployed (in January 2017). So it is quite inaccurate to say that those considering adopting CT in Bitcoin are going to be adopting something from Monero. It is accurate to say the Monero is the first coin to actually deploy a CT-based system on a significant scale.

2. Bitcoin (and Litecoin) are only proposing to use CT, not RingCT, which means it will only hide amounts. Go look at a Bitcoin chain explorer and cover up the amounts. Everything else about the transaction (sender, recipient) will still visible as-is. Obviously that is a lot less privacy than Monero, but still an improvement over what Bitcoin does now.

3. As far as tx size, that is a significant obstacle for BTC since even with this new, more-efficient CT it would still increase typical tx size (and all that comes with that such as fees) by a significant factor, maybe 2-3x. I suspect there will be significant difficulty gaining consensus to do this, or if it is done it won't be used much and will therefore suffer also from chain analysis and fungibility issues (as do all optional privacy systems). In the short term LTC has less of an issue there since it is much less used and has no shortage of chain space and much lower fees. But longer term LTC would run into the same problems.

Thanks for writing this down, in layman's terms. I understand the implications better now.

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November 19, 2017, 12:25:19 AM
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@Smooth, can you explain how effective this would be on BTC?

1. The report itself is quite misleading. Confidential Transactions was initially invented by gmaxwell for Bitcoin, not by or for Monero. Its concepts were incorporated along with ring signatures by shen to create RingCT, which we then deployed (in January 2017). So it is quite inaccurate to say that those considering adopting CT in Bitcoin are going to be adopting something from Monero. It is accurate to say the Monero is the first coin to actually deploy a CT-based system on a significant scale.

2. Bitcoin (and Litecoin) are only proposing to use CT, not RingCT, which means it will only hide amounts. Go look at a Bitcoin chain explorer and cover up the amounts. Everything else about the transaction (sender, recipient) will still visible as-is. Obviously that is a lot less privacy than Monero, but still an improvement over what Bitcoin does now.

3. As far as tx size, that is a significant obstacle for BTC since even with this new, more-efficient CT it would still increase typical tx size (and all that comes with that such as fees) by a significant factor, maybe 2-3x. I suspect there will be significant difficulty gaining consensus to do this, or if it is done it won't be used much and will therefore suffer also from chain analysis and fungibility issues (as do all optional privacy systems). In the short term LTC has less of an issue there since it is much less used and has no shortage of chain space and much lower fees. But longer term LTC would run into the same problems.

Thanks as usual for the clear and concise explanation. Smiley
I hate my memory these days, once you said it I remembered Gmaxwell had proposed it as that had been mentioned in this thread when it was first discussed.

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