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Still here. ^

I wonder at what price we start to move to the other stages? I would have thought this would be enough for them to at least start beating the (propaganda) drums of war.

I can't wait for live multisig and bulletproofs.  Game changers.
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Will multisig and bulletproofs both be included in the next hard fork?  I mean the official release, not beta.
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December 24, 2017, 11:11:48 PM
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Price x5 'unexpectedly'.  That sends the smell of mining profits wafting out, resulting in a big jump in hashing to combine with the recent browser bonanza and the perpetual bot nets.  Huge development news and expectations, exploding reddit subs, etc.  Monero becomes popular.

Yeah but I think the largest mining increase was before the latest doubling, I'm not positive of this. I wonder how much the cryptonote would have to be altered to thwart Asics if they are running? I know NobleSir is talking about changing the Algo just because he doesn't trust it (which makes no sense to me at all from what info we get here) but for asic resistance and QC resistance would make a much more compelling argument.


Will multisig and bulletproofs both be included in the next hard fork?  I mean the official release, not beta.

AFAIK Multisig Yes. I don't even know if bulletprooofs are in testing yet?

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December 24, 2017, 11:50:55 PM
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Price x5 'unexpectedly'.  That sends the smell of mining profits wafting out, resulting in a big jump in hashing to combine with the recent browser bonanza and the perpetual bot nets.  Huge development news and expectations, exploding reddit subs, etc.  Monero becomes popular.

Yeah but I think the largest mining increase was before the latest doubling, I'm not positive of this. I wonder how much the cryptonote would have to be altered to thwart Asics if they are running? I know NobleSir is talking about changing the Algo just because he doesn't trust it (which makes no sense to me at all from what info we get here) but for asic resistance and QC resistance would make a much more compelling argument.


Will multisig and bulletproofs both be included in the next hard fork?  I mean the official release, not beta.

AFAIK Multisig Yes. I don't even know if bulletprooofs are in testing yet?

Yep.  bullet proofs on the testnet already Smiley   Sounds to me as though both are progressing well thus far.   To the best of my knowledge (admittedly not the best) both are likely to be in the next protocol upgrade, barring catastrophic testing issues. 
It feels like a few weeks ago that I first heard about Bullet Proofs.  Now they are likely weeks from release.  The Monero Team is Fast.  Spaceship Fast.  Never thought I'd say that  Cheesy
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December 24, 2017, 11:56:26 PM
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Yep.  bullet proofs on the testnet already Smiley   Sounds to me as though both are progressing well thus far.   To the best of my knowledge (admittedly not the best) both are likely to be in the next protocol upgrade, barring catastrophic testing issues.  
It feels like a few weeks ago that I first heard about Bullet Proofs.  Now they are likely weeks from release.  The Monero Team is Fast.  Spaceship Fast.  Never thought I'd say that  Cheesy

I guess we will have to loss the SoonTM Monikor. Cheesy

Progress has been real nice since full time Dev has been funded.

Oh and I havn't said it in awhile, fUKING CAPSLOCK! :p

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December 25, 2017, 12:03:27 AM
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Checked your browser lately?   Lips sealed Tongue
What do you mean? Small measurements will be present

All the browser based monero miners would be part of that unknown total.
So roughly 70% of monero network hashrate controlled by botnets?

By the way, Monero total network hashrate was roughly 260Mh just a month ago. And these numbers almost corresponds to current amount of hashing power that sits at public pools now
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December 25, 2017, 12:13:19 AM
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Checked your browser lately?   Lips sealed Tongue
What do you mean? Small measurements will be present

All the browser based monero miners would be part of that unknown total.
So roughly 70% of monero network hashrate controlled by botnets?

No.  Roll Eyes

Browser miners are not exactly botnets.  Neither are private pools.
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Checked your browser lately?   Lips sealed Tongue
What do you mean? Small measurements will be present

All the browser based monero miners would be part of that unknown total.
So roughly 70% of monero network hashrate controlled by botnets?

No.  Roll Eyes

Browser miners are not exactly botnets.  Neither are private pools.
Why not?
It's the same botnet as botnets which are based on infected computers
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Take a look at monero hashrate distribution chart by pools

Chart was taken from https://monerohash.com/#network

add to this list a one more large pool "Mining pool hub" with ~23Mh + few more pools with total hashing speed less than 10Mh

Could someone tell me where are sitting the rest roughly 300Mh of Monero network hashing power?
Or did I miss something?
A quick update to my post:
I forgot to count hashrate of "new" pool - Nanopool. Its hashing speed about 70Mh.

Here are more accurate statistics of monero  hashrate distribution by pools

Chart was taken from http://minexmr.com/pools.htm
Add to this list one more large pool "MinerGate" with ~50Mh

And again from where are comes roughly 200Mh, almost 45% of network hashrate, from botnets based on javascript webminers?
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Take a look at monero hashrate distribution chart by pools

Chart was taken from https://monerohash.com/#network

add to this list a one more large pool "Mining pool hub" with ~23Mh + few more pools with total hashing speed less than 10Mh

Could someone tell me where are sitting the rest roughly 300Mh of Monero network hashing power?
Or did I miss something?
A quick update to my post:
I forgot to count hashrate of "new" pool - Nanopool. Its hashing speed about 70Mh.

Here are more accurate statistics of monero  hashrate distribution by pools

Chart was taken from http://minexmr.com/pools.htm
Add to this list one more large pool "MinerGate" with ~50Mh

And again from where are comes roughly 200Mh, almost 45% of network hashrate, from botnets based on javascript webminers?
lots of javascript webminers -however some of them are decent enough to at least tell you-, a friend of mine told me that a site he uses to download movies runs a Monero script in the background without people knowing about it and the computer is mining for them all the time they are in the page... Huh
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50% exactly. not bad.
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Monero/Bitcoin/Cryptocurrency-Assembly @ CCC Congress is @ Gate 2.10.
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December 25, 2017, 08:29:20 PM
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50% exactly. not bad.

~50% botnets and ~50% legit miners would have probably been my guess if you had asked me to take a wild guess. I don't think it really bespeaks rogue ASICS. Which is the only real concern I think.

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Taking monero christmas donations of any kind, I was, email wise, then account hacked at poloniex, 2000 monero taken  Cry

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Hello Monero community!

I'm looking for some another coins based on the Monero algo. Do you know some altcoins based on Monero? Most of projects which I have found it is defenitely scam. Could you link me some serious Monero related projects?

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Hello Monero community!

I'm looking for some another coins based on the Monero algo. Do you know some altcoins based on Monero? Most of projects which I have found it is defenitely scam. Could you link me some serious Monero related projects?

Thanks

I think Aeon is such a project. Not 100% sure but I think so. Haven't really looked into it. I don't see the value proposition in copy coins.

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Do you guys think all of the alts will drop during the BTC bull run?
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Do you guys think all of the alts will drop during the BTC bull run?

This is the thread we use for these questions.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=753252.0

And it did in the past so why wouldn't it in the future?

Hello Monero community!

I'm looking for some another coins based on the Monero algo. Do you know some altcoins based on Monero? Most of projects which I have found it is defenitely scam. Could you link me some serious Monero related projects?

Thanks

Here is a list but I have not clue if it gets updated.

https://cryptonote.org/coins

Beware, I just checked the site more closely and it looks like it's run by the Bytecoin Scammers so don't use those links as they are directed the a revisionist history. but the list is pretty valid. funny the thing that tipped me off is that they list their Scamcoin first instead of AEON. LOL

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XMR best for Anonymous coin but what is differences with XVG, DeepOnion and seems
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XMR best for Anonymous coin but what is differences with XVG, DeepOnion and seems

Don't know anything about XVG but from what I understand DeepOnion just adds onion routing to the wallet software. The same thing could be done with a tor wrapper to any crypto-currency. The blockchain is visable to all. So even if you are hiding your network activity you can still be compromised through blockchain analysis. Monero doesn't provide network level security at this time. It is in development. But there are instructions for running monero over tor which makes it equivalent to DeepOnion in that respect. But monero has the added, and very critical, advantage of having an opaque blockchain. It is more or less impossible to determine anything from the monero blockchain except that no one has double spent. Which is the only thing you really want your blockchain to do anyway. Unless its something like eithereum with smart contracts or something.

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