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February 02, 2015, 11:42:03 PM
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Cross posting David's post:

i registered because i see the patern, we are still largely ignored, monero is fundamentally better than bitcoin but still ignored by everybody.

Well, let's see who is speaking high of Monero or CryptoNote in general and has some reputation.

I've seen worse ignorance.

More information: Why Monero matters, The Three Pillars of Monero

Monero's privacy and therefore fungibility are MUCH stronger than Bitcoin's. 
This makes Monero a better candidate to deserve the term "digital cash".
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February 03, 2015, 12:45:34 AM
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Cross posting David's post:

Well, let's see who is speaking high of Monero or CryptoNote in general and has some reputation.

I've seen worse ignorance.

More information: Why Monero matters, The Three Pillars of Monero


Good post, didn't know Monero already passed the "peer-review" finals.
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February 03, 2015, 12:52:05 AM
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So when running a node does it auto store the block chain every 12 hours?
 

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February 03, 2015, 12:54:32 AM
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So when running a node does it auto store the block chain every 12 hours?

Yes or when you exit or type save
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February 03, 2015, 01:19:11 AM
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So is there an estimates of how many nodes are out there on the network?  I assume a mining pool acts as a node. So if you are running simple wallet and daemon, does that act as a node, or do you have to have the daemon ports forwarded to be a true node.

 

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February 03, 2015, 01:32:47 AM
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So is there an estimates of how many nodes are out there on the network?  I assume a mining pool acts as a node. So if you are running simple wallet and daemon, does that act as a node, or do you have to have the daemon ports forwarded to be a true node.

Any daemon is a node, so anyone using the standard daemon+simplewallet is running a node. Every pool has at least one node, but many have >1, same with exchanges. Anyone solo mining is certainly running a node.

There are quite a few nodes, very likely >1000. You can see that in the whitelist size which counts nodes that have successfully connected recently and is capped at 1000, and doesn't include all of them.

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February 03, 2015, 01:36:37 AM
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Have a great SuperBowl day guys! Smiley

To you too. I wish they won't run it on a Saturday afternoon in the US, as that makes it the night to Monday for Europe and Africa, which is just very inconvenient. Why not Saturday afternoon? Sad

Yeah, that doesn't make sense. Idunno?

OK, Too lazy to setup irc for tiperino, So any Seahawk fan that I trust wants to bet with me on superbowl?

I have 700 XMR and will put it on my pats straight up. No lines no gambling adjustments just straight up winner take all.

Have a great SuperBowl day guys! Smiley


well I don't know much about handegg, but I'd be willing to bet 100XMR on the seahawks  Cool

deal?

Well I don't know you but your a hero member with no neg so I don't see why I can't take your word.

Your on, GL and Just an FYI, I called Wilson as a most underrated probable great in his rookie year (When everyone else was Keapernick crazy) because he's one smart bastard! Cheesy


gonna be a great game.

Anyone else speak up soon as I'll be leaving in an hour or so.

600 XMR left

ok, cool. gl dude!  Smiley

btw. since I'm in germany don't be surprised if I won't be online directly after the game, pretty sure I'll fall asleep while watching.

I'll be at casino for who knows how long so I will take awhile to pay as well. I'll be back sometime between tonight and Friday depending on how the Poker tables are treating me. Cheesy



congrats dude!  Cool shall I use the address in your signature to send the funds too?

What a sick ending! did you watch it? I'll double check my address when I get home. It may be earlier rather than later, a guy hit a straight flush on me for 2k then i lost a ton on set over set. Smiley

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February 03, 2015, 05:55:08 AM
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There is a new public document from the SK trial, its an interesting reading if anyone has the time, heres the part the caught my attention:

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This is true even with rega
rd to the testimony regarding the evidence
supporting an inference that Bitcoins on
the Silk Road servers were transferred to
Ulbricht’s laptop. The defense opened on
a theory that the Bitcoins in Ulbricht’s
possession were from some sort of Bitcoi
n speculation (and, thus, not connected to
Silk Road). It was reasonable to expect
that defendant had performed the very
comparison the Government then scrambled to perform. That the Government
presented the facts of such a comparison
is nothing more than meeting a defense
argument. It would have been surprising
had the Government not done this. Thus,
the facts as to what Bitcoins—a highly
traceable digital currency
—were on the Silk
Road servers, and whether there was a factua
l basis to infer transfer to Ulbricht’s
laptop, was a door the defens
e opened at the outset.

http://ia600603.us.archive.org/21/items/gov.uscourts.nysd.422824/gov.uscourts.nysd.422824.173.0.pdf

these are the words from the federal judge btw

We must keep in mind here that the government has both the sending and receiving computers and the corresponding secret keys for both the sending and receiving wallets. They are trying in this situation to link the coins that were sent from the SR servers to the coins in the defendant's computer. My thought is that replacing XBT with XMR would not help the defendant in this situation since in the XMR case the government would still be able to use the corresponding view keys to provide evidence of the transactions to the court. This is actually quite properly by design.

Concerned that blockchain bloat will lead to centralization? Storing less than 4 GB of data once required the budget of a superpower and a warehouse full of punched cards. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/87/IBM_card_storage.NARA.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punched_card
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February 03, 2015, 07:17:45 AM
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We must keep in mind here that the government has both the sending and receiving computers and the corresponding secret keys for both the sending and receiving wallets. They are trying in this situation to link the coins that were sent from the SR servers to the coins in the defendant's computer. My thought is that replacing XBT with XMR would not help the defendant in this situation since in the XMR case the government would still be able to use the corresponding view keys to provide evidence of the transactions to the court. This is actually quite properly by design.

yes, and if you are dumb enough to compromise your own private key and crimonous enough to be involved with drugs and potential murder, you deserve this fate.

edit: can I make suggestion for the title of the next mixxives?: Monero: Tropical disease and Monero: Twitch of the nerve  Cheesy

Jeeze, some of the comments are straight from the r/buttcoin playbook.

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February 03, 2015, 07:56:09 AM
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We must keep in mind here that the government has both the sending and receiving computers and the corresponding secret keys for both the sending and receiving wallets. They are trying in this situation to link the coins that were sent from the SR servers to the coins in the defendant's computer. My thought is that replacing XBT with XMR would not help the defendant in this situation since in the XMR case the government would still be able to use the corresponding view keys to provide evidence of the transactions to the court. This is actually quite properly by design.

yes, and if you are dumb enough to compromise your own private key and crimonous enough to be involved with drugs and potential murder, you deserve this fate.

edit: can I make suggestion for the title of the next mixxives?: Monero: Tropical disease and Monero: Twitch of the nerve  Cheesy

Don't let the trolls get you down. rikkejohn, especially, has been trolling us almost since the very beginning. I have no idea why.

If you have something to say that is relevant and on topic, stand your ground. Retreating/containing yourself to the Monero threads is both unnecessary and giving the bullies exactly what they want. Some of them are irrationally hostile to alts but some are just putting a bit of pressure on you to see if you and your claims hold up. It not even personal or directed against Monero necessarily, they've seen a lot of scams come and go so they are naturally skeptical.

At the same time I'm not a fan of trying to direct a hard sell to hostile audience. It is usually not the most effective approach. When outnumbered and facing strong opposition, engage in unconventional warfare.
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February 03, 2015, 08:21:00 AM
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Simple metaphor of why Monero is better at anonymity than attempting to anomize a pseudonymous crypto:

If you want the best off-road vehicle, you don't put a Camry on a lift kit and start tinkering with it to make it off road capable; you build an off road vehicle that was designed from scratch to be the best off-road vehicle available.

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February 03, 2015, 02:18:58 PM
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Cross posting David's post:

i registered because i see the patern, we are still largely ignored, monero is fundamentally better than bitcoin but still ignored by everybody.

Well, let's see who is speaking high of Monero or CryptoNote in general and has some reputation.

I've seen worse ignorance.

More information: Why Monero matters, The Three Pillars of Monero

Excellent words! Why ignorance? I think Monero devs do ignore themselves. As minimum doing, that platinum word should be at monero.cc and forum.monero.cc.
But that words are read by very narrow group of enthusiasts monitoring this thread...
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fluffypony & David Latapie & all the core team, may be you find this interesting:

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Sophia is an embeddable, transactional key-value database.

It has unique architecture that was created as a result of research and reconsideration primary algorithmic constraints of Log-file based data structures, such as LSM-tree. (see architecture)

Sophia is designed for fast write (append-only) and read (range query-optimized, adaptive architecture) small to medium-sized key-values.
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* Full ACID compliancy

* Multi-Version Concurrency Control (MVCC) engine

* Pure Append-Only

* Multi-databases support (Single environment and WAL)

* Multi-Statement and Single-Statement Transactions (SERIALIZED view, multi-databases)

* Multi-threaded (Client access and Engine scalability)

* Consistent Cursors

* Point-in-Time Snapshots

* Asynchronous Online/Hot Backup

* Easy to use (Clean and functional API)

* Easy to integrate (Native support of using as storage engine)

* Easy to write bindings (FFI-friendly, API designed to be stable in future)

* Easy to built-in (Amalgamated, only two C files needed for work)

* Implemented as small C-written library with zero dependencies

* BSD Licensed

http://sphia.org/

+10. As I remember, fluffypony did say about they can switch between many database engines quite easily. Sophia offers very fast ACID 'append' transactions as well as 'search' ones. It is ideal for large blockchains, is not it?
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Have a great SuperBowl day guys! Smiley

To you too. I wish they won't run it on a Saturday afternoon in the US, as that makes it the night to Monday for Europe and Africa, which is just very inconvenient. Why not Saturday afternoon? Sad

Yeah, that doesn't make sense. Idunno?

OK, Too lazy to setup irc for tiperino, So any Seahawk fan that I trust wants to bet with me on superbowl?

I have 700 XMR and will put it on my pats straight up. No lines no gambling adjustments just straight up winner take all.

Have a great SuperBowl day guys! Smiley


well I don't know much about handegg, but I'd be willing to bet 100XMR on the seahawks  Cool

deal?

Well I don't know you but your a hero member with no neg so I don't see why I can't take your word.

Your on, GL and Just an FYI, I called Wilson as a most underrated probable great in his rookie year (When everyone else was Keapernick crazy) because he's one smart bastard! Cheesy


gonna be a great game.

Anyone else speak up soon as I'll be leaving in an hour or so.

600 XMR left

ok, cool. gl dude!  Smiley

btw. since I'm in germany don't be surprised if I won't be online directly after the game, pretty sure I'll fall asleep while watching.

I'll be at casino for who knows how long so I will take awhile to pay as well. I'll be back sometime between tonight and Friday depending on how the Poker tables are treating me. Cheesy



congrats dude!  Cool shall I use the address in your signature to send the funds too?

What a sick ending! did you watch it? I'll double check my address when I get home. It may be earlier rather than later, a guy hit a straight flush on me for 2k then i lost a ton on set over set. Smiley

yes, i fell asleep in between, but I saw most of it. way more entertaining than last year  Grin  just drop me the adress here or via msg whenever you got it.

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February 03, 2015, 03:23:18 PM
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We must keep in mind here that the government has both the sending and receiving computers and the corresponding secret keys for both the sending and receiving wallets. They are trying in this situation to link the coins that were sent from the SR servers to the coins in the defendant's computer. My thought is that replacing XBT with XMR would not help the defendant in this situation since in the XMR case the government would still be able to use the corresponding view keys to provide evidence of the transactions to the court. This is actually quite properly by design.

yes, and if you are dumb enough to compromise your own private key and crimonous enough to be involved with drugs and potential murder, you deserve this fate.

edit: can I make suggestion for the title of the next mixxives?: Monero: Tropical disease and Monero: Twitch of the nerve  Cheesy

Don't let the trolls get you down. rikkejohn, especially, has been trolling us almost since the very beginning. I have no idea why.

If you have something to say that is relevant and on topic, stand your ground. Retreating/containing yourself to the Monero threads is both unnecessary and giving the bullies exactly what they want. Some of them are irrationally hostile to alts but some are just putting a bit of pressure on you to see if you and your claims hold up. It not even personal or directed against Monero necessarily, they've seen a lot of scams come and go so they are naturally skeptical.

At the same time I'm not a fan of trying to direct a hard sell to hostile audience. It is usually not the most effective approach. When outnumbered and facing strong opposition, engage in unconventional warfare.


May be all of his efforts are not working to de-stable the coin.

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February 03, 2015, 05:06:54 PM
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no offend just a question: is monero monday (?) missive posted at another place or is there a new way to update the community?

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February 03, 2015, 05:13:34 PM
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no offend just a question: is monero monday (?) missive posted at another place or is there a new way to update the community?

They currently go here first I think:
https://forum.monero.cc/1/news-and-announcements

They are then cross-posted into this thread.
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February 03, 2015, 06:51:21 PM
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Should it get listed here:
https://www.coinpayments.net/supported-coins
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February 03, 2015, 07:59:15 PM
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no offend just a question: is monero monday (?) missive posted at another place or is there a new way to update the community?

They currently go here first I think:
https://forum.monero.cc/1/news-and-announcements

They are then cross-posted into this thread.

If your concern is "hey I haven't seen a missive in a while" its because, in general, the dev team has moved to publishing missives after milestones are achieved.

In essence, the gist is "let the dev team dev", because I think the milestones are getting relatively more difficult to achieve compared to the first months of existence, where im assuming things were relatively easier, but Im just making this stuff up.

I'm trying to compile a weekly report by keeping an eye on the IRC channel and collecting useful thread posts.

So, since last monday, when I got this idea, here are some notable developments and posts that I've collected:
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"we're remerging/updating daemonize, working on RPC -> IPC (via 0MQ), beginning the refactor/extrapolation to libraries, and working on non-64-bit comparability. This is all directly related to the GUI effort"

There are apparently two mul128 implementations (whatever that is); fluffy was looking for insight into which one should be kept

There was general chatter on the non-dev monero channel about creating a faucet.

And my LMDB version of bitmonerod is still running fine (3 weeks now?)
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with the blessing of the dev team (and/or the community, whatever), I could deidentify stuff and try to make a nice little published package. Be the "reporter" of XMR based on what I come across. Won't be as pretty as fluffy's.

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February 03, 2015, 08:37:00 PM
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I'm glad to add this coin as one of many coins in my investing portfolio!

Thanks for the work you do on this coin  Smiley
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