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April 13, 2017, 03:49:18 AM
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So I'm really starting to get interested with trying out different exchanges and have been messing around with setting up bitsquare to use and wanted to see if some people here could help me out with some stuff.

1) clearxchange: has anyone been able to set this up?  To me this sounds like a real easiest way to set up an account that allows everyone to send money to and from, but no luck in being able to set it up.  For some reason I think through my bank it's saying that my email and phone number aren't "registered", even though I know they are. 

2) Would cash deposit be and easier way to receive/pay?  Is it like localbitcoins where you can send a cash deposit and take a picture to your receipt in case there was some sort of dispute?  If there is a dispute, who would you go present your case too, since it's a more 'decentralized' system in comparison to LBC?

3) How do you set up a 'Monero account' on there?  It doesn't seem to let me create a wallet on there to send Monero.

I really am hoping to start trying to do some trading on there (even though it's very little volume) and hoping as time goes on others will do the same.  It's about time for a decentralized way to purchase/cash out.
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April 13, 2017, 04:24:19 AM
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2) Would cash deposit be and easier way to receive/pay?  Is it like localbitcoins where you can send a cash deposit and take a picture to your receipt in case there was some sort of dispute?  If there is a dispute, who would you go present your case too, since it's a more 'decentralized' system in comparison to LBC?

I don't know how they handle cash deposits exactly, but bitsquare has arbiters who resolve disputes. When you send BTC on there you send it to a 2-of-3 multisig where both parties to the trade can agree to release the BTC to the buyer (in case of no dispute) but if they don't then the arbiter decides.

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3) How do you set up a 'Monero account' on there?  It doesn't seem to let me create a wallet on there to send Monero.

You have to use your regular Monero wallet. Bitsquare's client only handles the BTC, not the other coins/fiat. Use the standard monero CLI (or GUI eventually). Do not use MyMonero or an exchange. You must be able to retrieve the tx-key to prove payment in case of dispute.
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April 13, 2017, 04:44:10 AM
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2) Would cash deposit be and easier way to receive/pay?  Is it like localbitcoins where you can send a cash deposit and take a picture to your receipt in case there was some sort of dispute?  If there is a dispute, who would you go present your case too, since it's a more 'decentralized' system in comparison to LBC?

I don't know how they handle cash deposits exactly, but bitsquare has arbiters who resolve disputes. When you send BTC on there you send it to a 2-of-3 multisig where both parties to the trade can agree to release the BTC to the buyer (in case of no dispute) but if they don't then the arbiter decides.

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3) How do you set up a 'Monero account' on there?  It doesn't seem to let me create a wallet on there to send Monero.

You have to use your regular Monero wallet. Bitsquare's client only handles the BTC, not the other coins/fiat. Use the standard monero CLI (or GUI eventually). Do not use MyMonero or an exchange. You must be able to retrieve the tx-key to prove payment in case of dispute.

Oh ok, so who gets to be an arbiter?  Does it base off of someone who created the software to pick people, or is there a trust rating system on there or something?

And that makes sense about using your own Monero wallet, but what prevents you from using the GUI?  I use CLI but I'm just curious as to why.

Also, what method (if you have done more than a couple trades on there) would you suggest on using in terms of paying/receiving USD?
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April 13, 2017, 04:54:09 AM
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Monero deserves his spot and I think it will go higher and higher in time for sure . Untill then try to catch some at low prices .

Yeah but after a 10x raise not many coins get another raise so fast,
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April 13, 2017, 05:25:12 AM
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Monero deserves his spot and I think it will go higher and higher in time for sure . Untill then try to catch some at low prices .

Yeah but after a 10x raise not many coins get another raise so fast,

Monero is the first to do many things...like:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/651un2/monero_v01031_cli_for_android_arm64/

thanks for posting that in the other thread, bitwolf!  I don't spend much time on reddit..
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April 13, 2017, 11:22:56 AM
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2) Would cash deposit be and easier way to receive/pay?  Is it like localbitcoins where you can send a cash deposit and take a picture to your receipt in case there was some sort of dispute?  If there is a dispute, who would you go present your case too, since it's a more 'decentralized' system in comparison to LBC?

I don't know how they handle cash deposits exactly, but bitsquare has arbiters who resolve disputes. When you send BTC on there you send it to a 2-of-3 multisig where both parties to the trade can agree to release the BTC to the buyer (in case of no dispute) but if they don't then the arbiter decides.

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3) How do you set up a 'Monero account' on there?  It doesn't seem to let me create a wallet on there to send Monero.

You have to use your regular Monero wallet. Bitsquare's client only handles the BTC, not the other coins/fiat. Use the standard monero CLI (or GUI eventually). Do not use MyMonero or an exchange. You must be able to retrieve the tx-key to prove payment in case of dispute.

Oh ok, so who gets to be an arbiter?  Does it base off of someone who created the software to pick people, or is there a trust rating system on there or something?

And that makes sense about using your own Monero wallet, but what prevents you from using the GUI?  I use CLI but I'm just curious as to why.

Also, what method (if you have done more than a couple trades on there) would you suggest on using in terms of paying/receiving USD?

I think the GUI is fine, I was just not recommending it because it is theoretically not released yet. So more risk of bugs, losing coins, etc. But probably okay in practice. The main thing is not to send from a wallet where you can't get the tx key. As far as who gets to be an arbiter, I don't know exactly. Maybe there is some FAQ info on their web site?

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April 13, 2017, 12:07:11 PM
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I think the GUI is fine

GUI is awesome, specially BETA 2.  Smiley

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April 13, 2017, 12:46:03 PM
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I think the GUI is fine

GUI is awesome, specially BETA 2.  Smiley

What does Beta2 add/change/improve in your opinion?
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April 13, 2017, 02:11:40 PM
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What does Beta2 add/change/improve in your opinion?
not him, but answering anyway Tongue

- The sort functions in the history actually work
- sign/verify
- integrated mining
- "integrated" daemon

and many, many bugfixes for small, but annoying bugs.

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April 13, 2017, 03:18:41 PM
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Hello, everyone. I am using moner almost more than a year and it's awesome.
Recently My ISP started to block my connections to monerminning pools(dward, nanopool, minexmr). What tool could help me sipher minning connection like SSH or VPN do for Web browsing ? What do i need to use to connect all my miners to a server which has active connection to nanopool and helps me find a new way to a pool ?
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April 13, 2017, 06:04:45 PM
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- The sort functions in the history actually work
- sign/verify
- integrated mining
- "integrated" daemon

and many, many bugfixes for small, but annoying bugs.

Agree with him.

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April 13, 2017, 06:17:17 PM
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Why this pump? Is there any news?
which pump?
I think the pump is due to the Bitcoins value moving up. Don't worry though Monero is a pretty good project so the price will get better.

 
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April 13, 2017, 06:40:28 PM
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The drops of Bitcoin is also a reason but not the main one of this recent spike as I do believe this is uptrend which will keep increasing and momentum will be huge to push the market further high after every passing day. This market is waiting for some mega pump to take it all time high where it should be.
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April 13, 2017, 09:06:30 PM
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The drops of Bitcoin is also a reason but not the main one of this recent spike as I do believe this is uptrend which will keep increasing and momentum will be huge to push the market further high after every passing day. This market is waiting for some mega pump to take it all time high where it should be.

Hard fork, Coinbase, Moonbase?  I'm just excited to see the full node run on a smart phone, and surprised there isn't more comment on it.
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April 13, 2017, 09:30:08 PM
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The drops of Bitcoin is also a reason but not the main one of this recent spike as I do believe this is uptrend which will keep increasing and momentum will be huge to push the market further high after every passing day. This market is waiting for some mega pump to take it all time high where it should be.

Hard fork, Coinbase, Moonbase?  I'm just excited to see the full node run on a smart phone, and surprised there isn't more comment on it.

There's a lot of discussion on reddit, just not so much on here https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/651un2/monero_v01031_cli_for_android_arm64/

Comparison of Privacy-Centric Coins: https://moneroforcash.com/monero-vs-dash-vs-zcash-vs-bitcoinmixers.php also includes Verge and Pivx
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April 14, 2017, 05:45:24 AM
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The drops of Bitcoin is also a reason but not the main one of this recent spike as I do believe this is uptrend which will keep increasing and momentum will be huge to push the market further high after every passing day. This market is waiting for some mega pump to take it all time high where it should be.

Hard fork, Coinbase, Moonbase?  I'm just excited to see the full node run on a smart phone, and surprised there isn't more comment on it.

There's a lot of discussion on reddit, just not so much on here https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/651un2/monero_v01031_cli_for_android_arm64/

It's a nice project for the full-fledged crypto geeks to tinker around with but unfortunately, it's not a practical application to further Monero's functionality and use case and thereby promoting mainstream adoption moving forward. I think what's really needed instead is a working smartphone app that is able to connect to a remote node especially a private one that is being run at home or any other location that one has control over. That's much simpler than running a full node on a smartphone which taxes its resources to the max.

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April 14, 2017, 04:31:27 PM
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The drops of Bitcoin is also a reason but not the main one of this recent spike as I do believe this is uptrend which will keep increasing and momentum will be huge to push the market further high after every passing day. This market is waiting for some mega pump to take it all time high where it should be.

Hard fork, Coinbase, Moonbase?  I'm just excited to see the full node run on a smart phone, and surprised there isn't more comment on it.

There's a lot of discussion on reddit, just not so much on here https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/651un2/monero_v01031_cli_for_android_arm64/

It's a nice project for the full-fledged crypto geeks to tinker around with but unfortunately, it's not a practical application to further Monero's functionality and use case and thereby promoting mainstream adoption moving forward. I think what's really needed instead is a working smartphone app that is able to connect to a remote node especially a private one that is being run at home or any other location that one has control over. That's much simpler than running a full node on a smartphone which taxes its resources to the max.



Not really. And there might be some mods that make it more functional for those concerned with resources. E.g., you don't actually need to be *participating* in the p2p network in order for your node to be functional for sending transactions. Just have the node in a push only mode while your on cellular data. And then when your plugged in and on wifi, the node can switch to full participant mode to catch up on its blocks.

Remote nodes are nice too, don't get me wrong. But running a full node on a phone is just awesome.

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April 14, 2017, 05:17:20 PM
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Monero not anon? Is that FUD or true? can anyone figure that out?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B59AisMv54waZXRhbE9GV2NDQUE/view

 Huh

If true, can we get at least an exit pump?  Grin

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April 14, 2017, 05:17:48 PM
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ther are some rumors in polo trollbox about moneros not anon: see here
http://monerolink.com/monerolink.pdf
https://twitter.com/random_walker/status/852918816455655425

true?

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April 14, 2017, 05:29:10 PM
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Monero not anon? Is that FUD or true? can anyone figure that out?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B59AisMv54waZXRhbE9GV2NDQUE/view

 Huh

If true, can we get at least an exit pump?  Grin

Here's my view on the point. Crosspost:
https://twitter.com/random_walker/status/852918816455655425

what a scam! U druggies should have better invested into non criminal coins like LTC!

That's quite a claim.  Didn't see any sort of links to evidence though.
That's the paper link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B59AisMv54waZXRhbE9GV2NDQUE/view
Nothing new here on my opinion compared to what we already had for years in Monero research lab papers: https://lab.getmonero.org/
I didn't read all of this "Empirical Analysis" paper and I don't intend to, but all the bold claims there are known for years (Edit:and possible solutions too). It seems to me like pure FUD.

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