Butterfly Labs - Bitforce Single and Mini Rig Box

[bombo999]

Wait, hold up, does that say Paypal?

yes, all mined bitcoins get instantly e-mailed to satoshi's paypal account

[MaxSan]

we are forced to mine on eclipse? wtf?
p2pool forcing would be the good choice maybe? forcing decentralization through hardware would be genious? xP

[Cablez]

I really like the layout but it definitely needs to be modifiable (tweaking, pools, etc) before I would change from cgminer.

[heavyb]

wow that easyminer software is crazy easy.

[rjk]

we are forced to mine on eclipse? wtf?
p2pool forcing would be the good choice maybe? forcing decentralization through hardware would be genious? xP

As of currently, the BFL units don't play nice with p2pool, although that could be changed with a firmware update.

[RoloTonyBrownTown]

Sexy.   I won't be able to use it until more pools are supported (or preferably an enterable address), but it's a great idea      Looks like it handles firmware upgrades as well

[Turbor]

That's a clean looking miner ! Add some options for other pools and everyone will be happy. Looks like things move in the right direction (finally).

[Inaba]

Why are you all under the impression that you have to use Easyminer?  Just continue to use CGminer or Ufasoft as per usual.  Easyminer is not intended for anyone on these forums.

[kano]

Why are you all under the impression that you have to use Easyminer?  Just continue to use CGminer or Ufasoft as per usual.  Easyminer is not intended for anyone on these forums.

Is Easyminer OpenSource?
(the web site doesn't have a link for it - just names it)

[rjk]

Is Easyminer OpenSource?

Easyminer is not intended for anyone on these forums.

Noobs that just want to make a buck don't care whether it is open source or not.

[RoloTonyBrownTown]

Sonny confirmed that other pools will be configurable in it at some point anyway, so all good.   Right now it's a handy way to upgrade the firmware in the boxes if nothing else

[punningclan]

They are ramping up production and refining the process... I would say 4 - 6 weeks is more likely than it was before. 

Are you now the official BFL PR guy ?

On another note, any more folks from the UK ordered theirs and got any information about customs or VAT or taxes that have to be paid to her majesty ?

Or maybe about that rumor with the Frankfurt EU resellers

Thanks !

No, are you the official asshole of the thread?

lmao!

[heavyb]

Is Easyminer OpenSource?

Easyminer is not intended for anyone on these forums.

Noobs that just want to make a buck don't care whether it is open source or not.

I am curious to hear everyone's thoughts on how this easyminer will effect the long term success of bitcoin. If BFL singles and easyminers significantly decrease the technical skills needed to mine bitcoins, will we see another boom of "n00bs" enter the network? If it becomes easy enough for the average user to mine, will these benefit the acceptance of bitcoin as an alternative currency?

[Matthew N. Wright]

If it becomes easy enough for the average user to mine, will these benefit the acceptance of bitcoin as an alternative currency?

It doesn't matter how much easier it becomes over time to make Snuggies®, people will still think they're gay.

Bitcoin's problem is a social one. No one wants to take risks. It starts with us, not the miners.

[Brunic]

I am curious to hear everyone's thoughts on how this easyminer will effect the long term success of bitcoin. If BFL singles and easyminers significantly decrease the technical skills needed to mine bitcoins, will we see another boom of "n00bs" enter the network?

I hope so. The more people mining, the better it is. Just look at the development of Bitcoins since last June, it's crazy. Even the price indicate it, now it's around 5$, five times its price from last year.

If it becomes easy enough for the average user to mine, will these benefit the acceptance of bitcoin as an alternative currency?

Well, if I compare myself to some of the people around here, I qualify as an average user. 1 year ago, I hated Linux to death, knew almost nothing about cryptology and didn't knew what a Radeon was. I've studied Marketing, and was passionate by social networks and video game business(I still have wet dreams when I think of Nintendo, one of the greatest company of all-time!  )

Today, 3 meters behind me, I have 12 GHash/s running, owning a couple of hundred of Bitcoins, and currently working on two new Bitcoin-related projects. And this never happen if mining is too hard for me to do.

So, if mining become easier and more accessible, it's only going to benefit this network. You can never have too much people.

Bitcoin's problem is a social one. No one wants to take risks. It starts with us, not the miners.

Make it easier for teenagers. We gave a couple of Bitcoins to people we know, and the more active one is this 14 years old kid. For them, there's never been a world without Internet, they have cell phones, they're everywhere on social networks and now, you present them "hidden and rebellious" money that they can manage by themselves, without having an adult telling them what to do. It's going to take a couple of years (since teenagers have no money), but they'll have capital in the future, and you can bet they're going to use the money they've grown up to.

[Matthew N. Wright]

Make it easier for teenagers. We gave a couple of Bitcoins to people we know, and the more active one is this 14 years old kid. For them, there's never been a world without Internet, they have cell phones, they're everywhere on social networks and now, you present them "hidden and rebellious" money that they can manage by themselves, without having an adult telling them what to do. It's going to take a couple of years (since teenagers have no money), but they'll have capital in the future, and you can bet they're going to use the money they've grown up to.

Ironic you mention that since that's one of our targets for the BitDex.

[triplehelix]

i don't think accessibility to mining will have a huge impact on bitcoin popularity.  we need more people spending bitcoin, we need more organizations accepting bitcoin, we do not however need more miners simply dumping their coins on mtgox.

[stevegee58]

BTC will continue to be viewed as yet another quirk of Libertarians and other kooks as long as sheeple continue to have confidence in their fiat currencies.

BTC will take off when people start buying goods and services directly without converting to fiat currencies or even worrying what the exchange rate is.  This will only happen in the aftermath of a major financial crisis worse that the one in 2008.

[Epoch]

i don't think accessibility to mining will have a huge impact on bitcoin popularity.  we need more people spending bitcoin, we need more organizations accepting bitcoin, we do not however need more miners simply dumping their coins on mtgox.

You forget that no matter how many new miners come online (or go away), the rate of bitcoin generation will not waver: difficulty self-adjusts so that it will ALWAYS be 300 BTC/hour (until the reward per block gets cut in half, later this year). So whether we have a 2 TeraHash/s network or a 20 TeraHash/s network makes no difference ... the # of coins getting dumped on MtGox remains the same.

Back on topic: EasyMiner looks ok. If I had a mixed farm (GPU/FPGA) I wouldn't be too thrilled running 2 different mining apps ... I would prefer to stick with one centralized place (cgminer, BAMT, Anubis) where I can keep track of all miners. But I wouldn't mind booting up EasyMiner once in a while if it offers something the other apps don't (like Single temperature monitoring). I can't imagine BFL releasing new firmware very often, so the 'firmware upgrade' feature of EasyMiner may be the only thing it is really useful for.

If the only mining hardware you have is a Single(s), then EasyMiner might be a reasonable option. Especially for someone new to mining, buying a Single, and EasyMiner comes on a CD along with it. Plug and play, so to speak.

[Brunic]

i don't think accessibility to mining will have a huge impact on bitcoin popularity.  we need more people spending bitcoin, we need more organizations accepting bitcoin, we do not however need more miners simply dumping their coins on mtgox.

Dude, there's only two way to get Bitcoins:
-Mining them
-Being on the receiving part of a transaction.

If you want people to spend Bitcoins, they need to get them first. Mining already had a crazy impact on Bitcoin popularity, and giving a better accessibility will just add to this impact.

I'll be happy when my grand-mother will be able to mine her own Bitcoins to spend, not before.