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Ok interesting.
So here's another tech questions:
If nodes are on a mix slow/unreliable internet connections and fast/reliable internet --
1) Will this tech be able to weed out the slow connections and bypass them for a more reliable connection
2) Will this tech somehow compensate for the slow connections?
I think it will take time to get all of this 100% right. For something this ambitious and revolutionary we should be happy to get a working proof of concept up and running and then slowly improve it over time until it's perfect. First to serve the content gets paid, so people with slow and unreliable connections can try to take part but probably won't make any money.
If first to serve is used the client probably needs to make several connections, to know which endpoints are available there need to be some discovery, to know if the request was served or not needs some sort of bookkeeping, (a transaction for every request served is just to many to scale I guess) .... all this is anything but easy to implement. But if Dan and his team can make it my fantasy go overboard with this tech, for instance who pays? The issuer or uploader of the data? I guess with the current qibuck add there team pays the Xnodes serving. but what if you reverse that? I started dreaming about paying by Download, sell some ebooks for instance. Downloader pays, XC goes to uploader who pays the xnode for serving his content. Can't wait for the documentation so i can limit my fantasy a little US connections are a lot slower than in most of europe. I currently have 127mb down and 12 up in the UK. Some countries within in the EU have nationwide 1Gb up and down for normal pricing. But ping  |
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Each block is stacked on top of the previous one. Adding another block to the top makes all lower blocks more difficult to remove: there is more "weight" above each block. A transaction in a block 6 blocks deep (6 confirmations) will be very difficult to remove.
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August 23, 2014, 01:18:26 PM |
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Ok interesting.
So here's another tech questions:
If nodes are on a mix slow/unreliable internet connections and fast/reliable internet --
1) Will this tech be able to weed out the slow connections and bypass them for a more reliable connection
2) Will this tech somehow compensate for the slow connections?
I think it will take time to get all of this 100% right. For something this ambitious and revolutionary we should be happy to get a working proof of concept up and running and then slowly improve it over time until it's perfect. First to serve the content gets paid, so people with slow and unreliable connections can try to take part but probably won't make any money. Maybe my home connection is slow for someone in the USA but really fast for an European connection. If first to serve is used the client probably needs to make several connections, to know which endpoints are available there need to be some discovery, to know if the request was served or not needs some sort of bookkeeping, (a transaction for every request served is just to many to scale I guess) .... all this is anything but easy to implement. But if Dan and his team can make it my fantasy go overboard with this tech, for instance who pays? The issuer or uploader of the data? I guess with the current qibuck add there team pays the Xnodes serving. but what if you reverse that? I started dreaming about paying by Download, sell some ebooks for instance. Downloader pays, XC goes to uploader who pays the xnode for serving his content. Can't wait for the documentation so i can limit my fantasy a little My dream too - (see earlier post) - it would be an amazing business model - really revolutionary. |
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August 23, 2014, 01:28:30 PM |
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Ok interesting.
So here's another tech questions:
If nodes are on a mix slow/unreliable internet connections and fast/reliable internet --
1) Will this tech be able to weed out the slow connections and bypass them for a more reliable connection
2) Will this tech somehow compensate for the slow connections?
I think it will take time to get all of this 100% right. For something this ambitious and revolutionary we should be happy to get a working proof of concept up and running and then slowly improve it over time until it's perfect. First to serve the content gets paid, so people with slow and unreliable connections can try to take part but probably won't make any money.
If first to serve is used the client probably needs to make several connections, to know which endpoints are available there need to be some discovery, to know if the request was served or not needs some sort of bookkeeping, (a transaction for every request served is just to many to scale I guess) .... all this is anything but easy to implement. But if Dan and his team can make it my fantasy go overboard with this tech, for instance who pays? The issuer or uploader of the data? I guess with the current qibuck add there team pays the Xnodes serving. but what if you reverse that? I started dreaming about paying by Download, sell some ebooks for instance. Downloader pays, XC goes to uploader who pays the xnode for serving his content. Can't wait for the documentation so i can limit my fantasy a little US connections are a lot slower than in most of europe. I currently have 127mb down and 12 up in the UK. Some countries within in the EU have nationwide 1Gb up and down for normal pricing. But ping I have 7-20 (20 while uploading pictures and streaming content) and most connections I've tested have around the same. |
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August 23, 2014, 01:46:35 PM |
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Maybe my home connection is slow for someone in the USA but really fast for an European connection.
I think in that case you would probably stand a good chance of being the first to serve a request from Europe, but you would have no chance of serving a request from the US, because the geographical distance does still make a difference to how long it takes to serve a request. Not sure the exact numbers, but perhaps you would only need to have a good connection speed for your part of the world. |
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August 23, 2014, 01:49:04 PM |
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US connections are a lot slower than in most of europe. I currently have 127mb down and 12 up in the UK. Some countries within in the EU have nationwide 1Gb up and down for normal pricing.
The money that I will be making out of this... ROFLOL.. uuuh I mean... the support that I will give to this network   On wifi with 2 bars filled. With cable can reach 1gb for only 70 euro a month |
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August 23, 2014, 01:55:03 PM |
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US connections are a lot slower than in most of europe. I currently have 127mb down and 12 up in the UK. Some countries within in the EU have nationwide 1Gb up and down for normal pricing.
The money that I will be making out of this... ROFLOL.. uuuh I mean... the support that I will give to this network (ziggo speedtest image) On wifi with 2 bars filled. With cable can reach 1gb for only 70 euro a month cat5e directly to modem on telenet cable in belgium:  |
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Teka (OP)
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August 23, 2014, 01:55:15 PM |
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US connections are a lot slower than in most of europe. I currently have 127mb down and 12 up in the UK. Some countries within in the EU have nationwide 1Gb up and down for normal pricing.
The money that I will be making out of this... ROFLOL.. uuuh I mean... the support that I will give to this network On wifi with 2 bars filled. With cable can reach 1gb for only 70 euro a month Well at least, I can say my wifi speeds are better . |
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August 23, 2014, 01:57:49 PM |
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Well at least, I can say my wifi speeds are better . of course this was in noway bragging about the awesome Dutch superiority when it comes to fiber internet.. Really it wasn't |
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August 23, 2014, 02:13:09 PM |
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The market cap of XC will exceed BTSX's once all the feature are delivered, I believe.
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dadon
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August 23, 2014, 02:19:14 PM |
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The market cap of XC will exceed BTSX's once all the feature are delivered, I believe.
XCs market cap will be in the billions if not hundreds of billions in the coming years, it's that big. |
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August 23, 2014, 02:31:06 PM |
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Ok interesting.
So here's another tech questions:
If nodes are on a mix slow/unreliable internet connections and fast/reliable internet --
1) Will this tech be able to weed out the slow connections and bypass them for a more reliable connection
2) Will this tech somehow compensate for the slow connections?
I think it will take time to get all of this 100% right. For something this ambitious and revolutionary we should be happy to get a working proof of concept up and running and then slowly improve it over time until it's perfect. First to serve the content gets paid, so people with slow and unreliable connections can try to take part but probably won't make any money.
If first to serve is used the client probably needs to make several connections, to know which endpoints are available there need to be some discovery, to know if the request was served or not needs some sort of bookkeeping, (a transaction for every request served is just to many to scale I guess) .... all this is anything but easy to implement. But if Dan and his team can make it my fantasy go overboard with this tech, for instance who pays? The issuer or uploader of the data? I guess with the current qibuck add there team pays the Xnodes serving. but what if you reverse that? I started dreaming about paying by Download, sell some ebooks for instance. Downloader pays, XC goes to uploader who pays the xnode for serving his content. Can't wait for the documentation so i can limit my fantasy a little US connections are a lot slower than in most of europe. I currently have 127mb down and 12 up in the UK. Some countries within in the EU have nationwide 1Gb up and down for normal pricing. I only have 2mb down and 0,40mb up and that is on the good days, currently it is way slower. I live in The Netherlands btw. |
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August 23, 2014, 02:36:04 PM |
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Ok interesting.
So here's another tech questions:
If nodes are on a mix slow/unreliable internet connections and fast/reliable internet --
1) Will this tech be able to weed out the slow connections and bypass them for a more reliable connection
2) Will this tech somehow compensate for the slow connections?
I think it will take time to get all of this 100% right. For something this ambitious and revolutionary we should be happy to get a working proof of concept up and running and then slowly improve it over time until it's perfect. First to serve the content gets paid, so people with slow and unreliable connections can try to take part but probably won't make any money.
If first to serve is used the client probably needs to make several connections, to know which endpoints are available there need to be some discovery, to know if the request was served or not needs some sort of bookkeeping, (a transaction for every request served is just to many to scale I guess) .... all this is anything but easy to implement. But if Dan and his team can make it my fantasy go overboard with this tech, for instance who pays? The issuer or uploader of the data? I guess with the current qibuck add there team pays the Xnodes serving. but what if you reverse that? I started dreaming about paying by Download, sell some ebooks for instance. Downloader pays, XC goes to uploader who pays the xnode for serving his content. Can't wait for the documentation so i can limit my fantasy a little US connections are a lot slower than in most of europe. I currently have 127mb down and 12 up in the UK. Some countries within in the EU have nationwide 1Gb up and down for normal pricing. I only have 2mb down and 0,40mb up and that is on the good days, currently it is way slower. I live in The Netherlands btw. Hmm interesting, national average is 14 |
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August 23, 2014, 02:50:46 PM |
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On wifi with 2 bars filled. With cable can reach 1gb for only 70 euro a month
OMG, 70 Eur ? Then I feel much better with 100/100 mbps up/dwn fiber line for only 8.4 Eur a month |
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August 23, 2014, 02:51:21 PM |
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US connections are a lot slower than in most of europe. I currently have 127mb down and 12 up in the UK. Some countries within in the EU have nationwide 1Gb up and down for normal pricing.
The money that I will be making out of this... ROFLOL.. uuuh I mean... the support that I will give to this network On wifi with 2 bars filled. With cable can reach 1gb for only 70 euro a month Same here, and fiber is already connected but still waiting for a provider. Have no idea about what kind of latency that will give an incoming connection from the US or how many hops but .... If this takes of i guess a lot of people will get an vps close to the us backbone |
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August 23, 2014, 03:06:20 PM |
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Ok interesting.
So here's another tech questions:
If nodes are on a mix slow/unreliable internet connections and fast/reliable internet --
1) Will this tech be able to weed out the slow connections and bypass them for a more reliable connection
2) Will this tech somehow compensate for the slow connections?
I think it will take time to get all of this 100% right. For something this ambitious and revolutionary we should be happy to get a working proof of concept up and running and then slowly improve it over time until it's perfect. First to serve the content gets paid, so people with slow and unreliable connections can try to take part but probably won't make any money.
If first to serve is used the client probably needs to make several connections, to know which endpoints are available there need to be some discovery, to know if the request was served or not needs some sort of bookkeeping, (a transaction for every request served is just to many to scale I guess) .... all this is anything but easy to implement. But if Dan and his team can make it my fantasy go overboard with this tech, for instance who pays? The issuer or uploader of the data? I guess with the current qibuck add there team pays the Xnodes serving. but what if you reverse that? I started dreaming about paying by Download, sell some ebooks for instance. Downloader pays, XC goes to uploader who pays the xnode for serving his content. Can't wait for the documentation so i can limit my fantasy a little US connections are a lot slower than in most of europe. I currently have 127mb down and 12 up in the UK. Some countries within in the EU have nationwide 1Gb up and down for normal pricing. I only have 2mb down and 0,40mb up and that is on the good days, currently it is way slower. I live in The Netherlands btw. Wow, time to switch provider or is this enough for you? |
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August 23, 2014, 03:14:05 PM |
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Ok interesting.
So here's another tech questions:
If nodes are on a mix slow/unreliable internet connections and fast/reliable internet --
1) Will this tech be able to weed out the slow connections and bypass them for a more reliable connection
2) Will this tech somehow compensate for the slow connections?
I think it will take time to get all of this 100% right. For something this ambitious and revolutionary we should be happy to get a working proof of concept up and running and then slowly improve it over time until it's perfect. First to serve the content gets paid, so people with slow and unreliable connections can try to take part but probably won't make any money.
If first to serve is used the client probably needs to make several connections, to know which endpoints are available there need to be some discovery, to know if the request was served or not needs some sort of bookkeeping, (a transaction for every request served is just to many to scale I guess) .... all this is anything but easy to implement. But if Dan and his team can make it my fantasy go overboard with this tech, for instance who pays? The issuer or uploader of the data? I guess with the current qibuck add there team pays the Xnodes serving. but what if you reverse that? I started dreaming about paying by Download, sell some ebooks for instance. Downloader pays, XC goes to uploader who pays the xnode for serving his content. Can't wait for the documentation so i can limit my fantasy a little US connections are a lot slower than in most of europe. I currently have 127mb down and 12 up in the UK. Some countries within in the EU have nationwide 1Gb up and down for normal pricing. But ping I have 7-20 (20 while uploading pictures and streaming content) and most connections I've tested have around the same. I pay 12 usd / month for unlimited LTE Mobile Broadband, 100mb up and 30mb up (mostly around 70-95 up and 17-25mb up) with a ping of 12-17ms. |
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August 23, 2014, 03:22:37 PM |
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I pay 12 usd / month for unlimited LTE Mobile Broadband, 100mb up and 30mb up (mostly around 70-95 up and 17-25mb up) with a ping of 12-17ms.
Where can I sign up for this deal? $12/month for unlimited LTE?!?! |
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August 23, 2014, 03:23:32 PM |
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I pay 12 usd / month for unlimited LTE Mobile Broadband, 100mb up and 30mb up (mostly around 70-95 up and 17-25mb up) with a ping of 12-17ms.
Where can I sign up for this deal? $12/month for unlimited LTE?!?! Uh yeah I want in too |
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August 23, 2014, 03:31:03 PM |
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I wonder what the timeframe will be to release this tech to the community after it is done.  |
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