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so you smart guys made sure everyone who doesn't pay attention can't claim their stake, you keep up to 40% of coins 'for developement' and thus make the coin trustbased like ripple? Are you serious? I am gonna dump this shit ASAP.
If you can't destroy unclaimed stakes you're just a joke.
I say: either lift timelimit and let everyone claim as long as they want OR destroy the unclaimed stakes but keeping up to 40% of supply in very few hands makes this coin trust-based and for that reason dramatically lowers the outlooks of it. No matter how shiny your shit is, it can't obscure what greedy bastards you are. You don't care about NEM or the project. Everyone is focused on personal gains. No other way to explain this redemption-process. Period.
Destroy stakes, let people claim longer or be called greedy pigs and lower outlooks of nem-project dramatically - pretty simple, like it or not.
Appears to me your minds made up - after all, we're already greedy bastards in your book. I'm pretty much cool with any way the wind blows. I actually trust these devs to produce a good ecosystem - what i do not trust is devs to not give in to petty insults and cry babies like yourself who make idle insults just to make a point. That is what concerns me. So feel free to throw your toys out the pram, for people like myself, it doesn't work. |
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October 30, 2014, 06:57:06 PM |
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so you smart guys made sure everyone who doesn't pay attention can't claim their stake, you keep up to 40% of coins 'for developement' and thus make the coin trustbased like ripple? Are you serious? I am gonna dump this shit ASAP.
If you can't destroy unclaimed stakes you're just a joke.
I say: either lift timelimit and let everyone claim as long as they want OR destroy the unclaimed stakes but keeping up to 40% of supply in very few hands makes this coin trust-based and for that reason dramatically lowers the outlooks of it. No matter how shiny your shit is, it can't obscure what greedy bastards you are. You don't care about NEM or the project. Everyone is focused on personal gains. No other way to explain this redemption-process. Period.
Destroy stakes, let people claim longer or be called greedy pigs and lower outlooks of nem-project dramatically - pretty simple, like it or not.
Appears to me your minds made up - after all, we're already greedy bastards in your book. lol. I didn't make up my mind. I just saw up to 40% unclaimed right now and then the other person saying 'this will be for promotion and developement'. I got nothing against nem or anyone. I am just straight up about stuff and say what i think. If you fuck up distribution like that you take away a lot of its value, just sayin'. Maybe this has been overlooked. Better don't take up to 40% of supply for "developement and promo" if you don't want to destoy its public image. If i was you i would care a great deal about a good distribution even if it means not taking those coins myself and destoying them instead. I would prefer to have less coins of higher value instead of more coins with far less value. |
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October 30, 2014, 07:01:17 PM |
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so you smart guys made sure everyone who doesn't pay attention can't claim their stake, you keep up to 40% of coins 'for developement' and thus make the coin trustbased like ripple? Are you serious? I am gonna dump this shit ASAP.
If you can't destroy unclaimed stakes you're just a joke.
I say: either lift timelimit and let everyone claim as long as they want OR destroy the unclaimed stakes but keeping up to 40% of supply in very few hands makes this coin trust-based and for that reason dramatically lowers the outlooks of it. No matter how shiny your shit is, it can't obscure what greedy bastards you are. You don't care about NEM or the project. Everyone is focused on personal gains. No other way to explain this redemption-process. Period.
Destroy stakes, let people claim longer or be called greedy pigs and lower outlooks of nem-project dramatically - pretty simple, like it or not.
Appears to me your minds made up - after all, we're already greedy bastards in your book. lol. I didn't make up my mind. I just saw up to 40% unclaimed right now and then the other person saying 'this will be for promotion and developement'. I got nothing against nem or anyone. I am just straight up about stuff and say what i think. If you fuck up distribution like that you take away a lot of its value, just sayin'. Maybe this has been overlooked. Better don't take up to 40% of supply for "developement and promo" if you don't want to destoy its public image. I actually think you make a good argument, but resorting to insults is not a way to do it. |
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October 30, 2014, 07:02:53 PM |
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so you smart guys made sure everyone who doesn't pay attention can't claim their stake, you keep up to 40% of coins 'for developement' and thus make the coin trustbased like ripple? Are you serious? I am gonna dump this shit ASAP.
If you can't destroy unclaimed stakes you're just a joke.
I say: either lift timelimit and let everyone claim as long as they want OR destroy the unclaimed stakes but keeping up to 40% of supply in very few hands makes this coin trust-based and for that reason dramatically lowers the outlooks of it. No matter how shiny your shit is, it can't obscure what greedy bastards you are. You don't care about NEM or the project. Everyone is focused on personal gains. No other way to explain this redemption-process. Period.
Destroy stakes, let people claim longer or be called greedy pigs and lower outlooks of nem-project dramatically - pretty simple, like it or not.
Appears to me your minds made up - after all, we're already greedy bastards in your book. lol. I didn't make up my mind. I just saw up to 40% unclaimed right now and then the other person saying 'this will be for promotion and developement'. I got nothing against nem or anyone. I am just straight up about stuff and say what i think. If you fuck up distribution like that you take away a lot of its value, just sayin'. Maybe this has been overlooked. Better don't take up to 40% of supply for "developement and promo" if you don't want to destoy its public image. I actually think you make a good argument, but resorting to insults is not a way to do it. cut out the insults. Nothing personal. I am just the grumpy guy.  Hope nobody got hurt too much  You do what you want but i would recommend to not keep more than 10% of unclaimed stakes for 'dev and promo' to not screw it up. Best to destroy the biggest part of unclaimed coins so you don't have bad talk and bad promo because of that. See other alts that have bad distro. They never get past a certain point and tend to be more unstable. Also target of many trolls. You are aware that you are breeding trolls by not allowing people to claim longer, are you? Let's say i am in hospital and can't claim stake. When i come back i am left with nothing. Fine. I am a troll now. So with cutting all those people off: prepare for trolls later just my 2 cents |
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October 30, 2014, 07:26:18 PM |
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so you smart guys made sure everyone who doesn't pay attention can't claim their stake, you keep up to 40% of coins 'for developement' and thus make the coin trustbased like ripple? Are you serious? I am gonna dump this shit ASAP.
If you can't destroy unclaimed stakes you're just a joke.
I say: either lift timelimit and let everyone claim as long as they want OR destroy the unclaimed stakes but keeping up to 40% of supply in very few hands makes this coin trust-based and for that reason dramatically lowers the outlooks of it. No matter how shiny your shit is, it can't obscure what greedy bastards you are. You don't care about NEM or the project. Everyone is focused on personal gains. No other way to explain this redemption-process. Period.
Destroy stakes, let people claim longer or be called greedy pigs and lower outlooks of nem-project dramatically - pretty simple, like it or not.
Appears to me your minds made up - after all, we're already greedy bastards in your book. lol. I didn't make up my mind. I just saw up to 40% unclaimed right now and then the other person saying 'this will be for promotion and developement'. I got nothing against nem or anyone. I am just straight up about stuff and say what i think. If you fuck up distribution like that you take away a lot of its value, just sayin'. Maybe this has been overlooked. Better don't take up to 40% of supply for "developement and promo" if you don't want to destoy its public image. I actually think you make a good argument, but resorting to insults is not a way to do it. cut out the insults. Nothing personal. I am just the grumpy guy. Hope nobody got hurt too much You do what you want but i would recommend to not keep more than 10% of unclaimed stakes for 'dev and promo' to not screw it up. Best to destroy the biggest part of unclaimed coins so you don't have bad talk and bad promo because of that. See other alts that have bad distro. They never get past a certain point and tend to be more unstable. Also target of many trolls. You are aware that you are breeding trolls by not allowing people to claim longer, are you? Let's say i am in hospital and can't claim stake. When i come back i am left with nothing. Fine. I am a troll now. So with cutting all those people off: prepare for trolls later just my 2 cents No envy movement and yet I detect some envy |
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October 30, 2014, 07:29:47 PM |
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so you smart guys made sure everyone who doesn't pay attention can't claim their stake, you keep up to 40% of coins 'for developement' and thus make the coin trustbased like ripple? Are you serious? I am gonna dump this shit ASAP.
If you can't destroy unclaimed stakes you're just a joke.
I say: either lift timelimit and let everyone claim as long as they want OR destroy the unclaimed stakes but keeping up to 40% of supply in very few hands makes this coin trust-based and for that reason dramatically lowers the outlooks of it. No matter how shiny your shit is, it can't obscure what greedy bastards you are. You don't care about NEM or the project. Everyone is focused on personal gains. No other way to explain this redemption-process. Period.
Destroy stakes, let people claim longer or be called greedy pigs and lower outlooks of nem-project dramatically - pretty simple, like it or not.
Appears to me your minds made up - after all, we're already greedy bastards in your book. lol. I didn't make up my mind. I just saw up to 40% unclaimed right now and then the other person saying 'this will be for promotion and developement'. I got nothing against nem or anyone. I am just straight up about stuff and say what i think. If you fuck up distribution like that you take away a lot of its value, just sayin'. Maybe this has been overlooked. Better don't take up to 40% of supply for "developement and promo" if you don't want to destoy its public image. I actually think you make a good argument, but resorting to insults is not a way to do it. cut out the insults. Nothing personal. I am just the grumpy guy. Hope nobody got hurt too much You do what you want but i would recommend to not keep more than 10% of unclaimed stakes for 'dev and promo' to not screw it up. Best to destroy the biggest part of unclaimed coins so you don't have bad talk and bad promo because of that. See other alts that have bad distro. They never get past a certain point and tend to be more unstable. Also target of many trolls. You are aware that you are breeding trolls by not allowing people to claim longer, are you? Let's say i am in hospital and can't claim stake. When i come back i am left with nothing. Fine. I am a troll now. So with cutting all those people off: prepare for trolls later just my 2 cents No envy movement and yet I detect some envy No idea what that means and i don't have time for this stuff. Correct the issue or not i don't care. Me and others will trade accordingly. Nothing more to be said. |
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kodtycoon
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October 30, 2014, 07:29:59 PM |
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ok, hello guys. I registered the token that was sent to me.
I figured redeeming stakes started.
I don't have traded on next ae, so no claimed nxt-tokens in my case.
Now if i run bob.nem.ninja/webstart it shows me a page where it says 'create new wallet'. I click that and create wallet.
My two questions:
1) is this already real nem-wallet or is it still testnet?
2) if this is the real adresses i can create now with bob.nem.ninja, what do i have to do now to receive my nem-stake? (where to send the adress to to get the coins credited)
no when you create a wallet they are testnet you need to uSe the create real account data feature in the options menu. Live net addresses start with "N" and testnet = "T". Do not send off a testnet address. There are some guides that you can follow but I'm on mobile so can't find the link. The portal to send off your address has not been released yet. |
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October 30, 2014, 07:31:23 PM |
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ok, hello guys. I registered the token that was sent to me.
I figured redeeming stakes started.
I don't have traded on next ae, so no claimed nxt-tokens in my case.
Now if i run bob.nem.ninja/webstart it shows me a page where it says 'create new wallet'. I click that and create wallet.
My two questions:
1) is this already real nem-wallet or is it still testnet?
2) if this is the real adresses i can create now with bob.nem.ninja, what do i have to do now to receive my nem-stake? (where to send the adress to to get the coins credited?)
Hi, Please read this: https://medium.com/@xtester/phase-2-btt-stakeholders-redemption-guide-becc1d120612 for more info on the redemption process. To answer your questions: 1. It is a real NEM wallet address, but it's only there so you can use it in the redemption process. Later you will receive your NEM on the address you provide. 2. Please read the article above. thanks for response. So claiming starts 1st of Nov, i didn't read that. I'll be watching the thread for progress. Thanks again. no when you create a wallet they are testnet you need to uSe the create real account data feature in the options menu. Live net addresses start with "N" and testnet = "T". Do not send off a testnet address. There are some guides that you can follow but I'm on mobile so can't find the link.
The portal to send off your address has not been released yet.
ha! See! I was testnet. Valuable info. Thanks. |
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Sebastien256
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October 30, 2014, 07:34:04 PM |
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Do we need to participate in PHASE 2 REDEMPTION if we do not have a stake on AE? I successfully did phase 1 with my BCTaccount.
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vanea84
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October 30, 2014, 07:35:25 PM |
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Hello everyone, I got "NEM Token"
what do I do next to get my coins
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Mickeyb
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October 30, 2014, 07:35:59 PM |
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so you smart guys made sure everyone who doesn't pay attention can't claim their stake, you keep up to 40% of coins 'for developement' and thus make the coin trustbased like ripple? Are you serious? I am gonna dump this shit ASAP.
If you can't destroy unclaimed stakes you're just a joke.
I say: either lift timelimit and let everyone claim as long as they want OR destroy the unclaimed stakes but keeping up to 40% of supply in very few hands makes this coin trust-based and for that reason dramatically lowers the outlooks of it. No matter how shiny your shit is, it can't obscure what greedy bastards you are. You don't care about NEM or the project. Everyone is focused on personal gains. No other way to explain this redemption-process. Period.
Destroy stakes, let people claim longer or be called greedy pigs and lower outlooks of nem-project dramatically - pretty simple, like it or not.
Appears to me your minds made up - after all, we're already greedy bastards in your book. lol. I didn't make up my mind. I just saw up to 40% unclaimed right now and then the other person saying 'this will be for promotion and developement'. I got nothing against nem or anyone. I am just straight up about stuff and say what i think. If you fuck up distribution like that you take away a lot of its value, just sayin'. Maybe this has been overlooked. Better don't take up to 40% of supply for "developement and promo" if you don't want to destoy its public image. I actually think you make a good argument, but resorting to insults is not a way to do it. cut out the insults. Nothing personal. I am just the grumpy guy. Hope nobody got hurt too much You do what you want but i would recommend to not keep more than 10% of unclaimed stakes for 'dev and promo' to not screw it up. Best to destroy the biggest part of unclaimed coins so you don't have bad talk and bad promo because of that. See other alts that have bad distro. They never get past a certain point and tend to be more unstable. Also target of many trolls. You are aware that you are breeding trolls by not allowing people to claim longer, are you? Let's say i am in hospital and can't claim stake. When i come back i am left with nothing. Fine. I am a troll now. So with cutting all those people off: prepare for trolls later just my 2 cents I also think you have a point about not keeping huge percentage of unclaimed stakes. We must be reasonable and keep a reasonable percentage while burning the rest. We can't allow our good distribution to be destroyed in this way!! |
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TaunSew
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October 30, 2014, 07:41:18 PM |
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Hello everyone, I got "NEM Token"
what do I do next to get my coins
? Please help meI received from patmast3r "Your token: XXXXXXXXXXXXXX" ? |
There ain't no Revolution like a NEMolution. The only solution is Bitcoin's dissolution! NEM!
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nembit86
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October 30, 2014, 07:41:39 PM |
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so you smart guys made sure everyone who doesn't pay attention can't claim their stake, you keep up to 40% of coins 'for developement' and thus make the coin trustbased like ripple? Are you serious? I am gonna dump this shit ASAP.
If you can't destroy unclaimed stakes you're just a joke.
I say: either lift timelimit and let everyone claim as long as they want OR destroy the unclaimed stakes but keeping up to 40% of supply in very few hands makes this coin trust-based and for that reason dramatically lowers the outlooks of it. No matter how shiny your shit is, it can't obscure what greedy bastards you are. You don't care about NEM or the project. Everyone is focused on personal gains. No other way to explain this redemption-process. Period.
Destroy stakes, let people claim longer or be called greedy pigs and lower outlooks of nem-project dramatically - pretty simple, like it or not.
Appears to me your minds made up - after all, we're already greedy bastards in your book. lol. I didn't make up my mind. I just saw up to 40% unclaimed right now and then the other person saying 'this will be for promotion and developement'. I got nothing against nem or anyone. I am just straight up about stuff and say what i think. If you fuck up distribution like that you take away a lot of its value, just sayin'. Maybe this has been overlooked. Better don't take up to 40% of supply for "developement and promo" if you don't want to destoy its public image. I actually think you make a good argument, but resorting to insults is not a way to do it. cut out the insults. Nothing personal. I am just the grumpy guy. Hope nobody got hurt too much You do what you want but i would recommend to not keep more than 10% of unclaimed stakes for 'dev and promo' to not screw it up. Best to destroy the biggest part of unclaimed coins so you don't have bad talk and bad promo because of that. See other alts that have bad distro. They never get past a certain point and tend to be more unstable. Also target of many trolls. You are aware that you are breeding trolls by not allowing people to claim longer, are you? Let's say i am in hospital and can't claim stake. When i come back i am left with nothing. Fine. I am a troll now. So with cutting all those people off: prepare for trolls later just my 2 cents No envy movement and yet I detect some envy No idea what that means and i don't have time for this stuff. Correct the issue or not i don't care. Me and others will trade accordingly. Nothing more to be said. I suggest you READ the thread more fully before shouting off and doing your 'trading' |
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October 30, 2014, 07:42:11 PM |
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so you smart guys made sure everyone who doesn't pay attention can't claim their stake, you keep up to 40% of coins 'for developement' and thus make the coin trustbased like ripple? Are you serious? I am gonna dump this shit ASAP.
If you can't destroy unclaimed stakes you're just a joke.
I say: either lift timelimit and let everyone claim as long as they want OR destroy the unclaimed stakes but keeping up to 40% of supply in very few hands makes this coin trust-based and for that reason dramatically lowers the outlooks of it. No matter how shiny your shit is, it can't obscure what greedy bastards you are. You don't care about NEM or the project. Everyone is focused on personal gains. No other way to explain this redemption-process. Period.
Destroy stakes, let people claim longer or be called greedy pigs and lower outlooks of nem-project dramatically - pretty simple, like it or not.
Appears to me your minds made up - after all, we're already greedy bastards in your book. lol. I didn't make up my mind. I just saw up to 40% unclaimed right now and then the other person saying 'this will be for promotion and developement'. I got nothing against nem or anyone. I am just straight up about stuff and say what i think. If you fuck up distribution like that you take away a lot of its value, just sayin'. Maybe this has been overlooked. Better don't take up to 40% of supply for "developement and promo" if you don't want to destoy its public image. I actually think you make a good argument, but resorting to insults is not a way to do it. cut out the insults. Nothing personal. I am just the grumpy guy. Hope nobody got hurt too much You do what you want but i would recommend to not keep more than 10% of unclaimed stakes for 'dev and promo' to not screw it up. Best to destroy the biggest part of unclaimed coins so you don't have bad talk and bad promo because of that. See other alts that have bad distro. They never get past a certain point and tend to be more unstable. Also target of many trolls. You are aware that you are breeding trolls by not allowing people to claim longer, are you? Let's say i am in hospital and can't claim stake. When i come back i am left with nothing. Fine. I am a troll now. So with cutting all those people off: prepare for trolls later just my 2 cents I also think you have a point about not keeping huge percentage of unclaimed stakes. We must be reasonable and keep a reasonable percentage while burning the rest. We can't allow our good distribution to be destroyed in this way!! Burning is a shortsighted option. It's the worst of all the ideas. We need to distribute those NEMs further. We want many people to get their hands on NEM and not make those that already have NEM richer i.e. give them more NEM. 40 % is a bullshit number. Where is that even from ? And now show me another non PoW that has no timelimit on claiming of coins ? If people don't care about their stake then we'll distribute it to someone who does. Who wants to help advance NEM. PS: Wow this was really hard. But I got through without a single insult. Wasn't even rude. I think this is the beginning of a new pat  |
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October 30, 2014, 07:44:06 PM |
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My 2 cents- I'd like to see creative contests and giveaways on Facebook, Twitter , Reddit, etc..
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vanea84
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October 30, 2014, 07:45:53 PM |
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Hello everyone, I got "NEM Token"
what do I do next to get my coins
? Please help meI received from patmast3r "Your token: XXXXXXXXXXXXXX" ? What do I do next with this token? |
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nembit86
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October 30, 2014, 07:46:47 PM |
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My 2 cents- I'd like to see creative contests and giveaways on Facebook, Twitter , Reddit, etc..
like what? |
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Conurtrol
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October 30, 2014, 07:49:45 PM |
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My 2 cents- I'd like to see creative contests and giveaways on Facebook, Twitter , Reddit, etc..
like what? This is something marketing people get paid for. |
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October 30, 2014, 07:50:21 PM |
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My 2 cents- I'd like to see creative contests and giveaways on Facebook, Twitter , Reddit, etc..
Yes, pissing on faces of people who paid 3 BTC for the stake which will then go to facebook dumpers who will dump it for 0.03 BTC |
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vanea84
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October 30, 2014, 07:51:20 PM |
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Hello everyone, I got "NEM Token"
what do I do next to get my coins
? Please help meI received from patmast3r "Your token: XXXXXXXXXXXXXX" ? What do I do next with this token? I should have time to register before October 31? |
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