NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs

[Djentriser]

So how can be stake registered right now? I havent registered yet but I have NEM adress.
Can I just put there my token and real NEM adress? Or is there some special process for late comers?

[psybits]

What is the deadline for the second stage of redemption? I'm really busy right now and don't want to miss out ...

[TaunSew]

What is the deadline for the second stage of redemption? I'm really busy right now and don't want to miss out ...

No idea.  It is not written anywhere.  All I see here is a date of November 22, maybe the day after on November 23 is when coins are sent out to launch wallets?

[xtester]

So how can be stake registered right now? I havent registered yet but I have NEM adress.
Can I just put there my token and real NEM adress? Or is there some special process for late comers?

What is the deadline for the second stage of redemption? I'm really busy right now and don't want to miss out ...

No idea.  It is not written anywhere.  All I see here is a date of November 22, maybe the day after on November 23 is when coins are sent out to launch wallets?

Info can be found both here: https://forum.nemcoin.com/index.php?topic=2631.msg8425#msg8425 and here: https://medium.com/@xtester/updated-phase-2-redemption-guide-401e63b43344

And you're right, 22 November is the deadline.

[xtester]

NEM Beta 0.4.17 is here: https://forum.nemcoin.com/index.php?topic=2635.msg8431#msg8431

Enjoy. 

[TaunSew]

Do we actually have to keep on downloading these things or does our monitor update?

Already lost a testnet account with like 8 million NEM in it.   

[lx001]

I still cannot change languages. Click on any and nothing happens. If I close ncc and open it again - the whole text dissappears from everywhere

[Spider]

I still cannot change languages. Click on any and nothing happens. If I close ncc and open it again - the whole text dissappears from everywhere

It works fine here.

[BloodyRookie]

I still cannot change languages. Click on any and nothing happens. If I close ncc and open it again - the whole text dissappears from everywhere

Hi lx001,

can you please check if you are indeed running 0.4.17 by selecting the menu item "client info"?
If not, try to uninstall nem and reinstall.
On some systems webstart is still giving us problems.

Bloody Rookie

[xtester]

Do we actually have to keep on downloading these things or does our monitor update?

Already lost a testnet account with like 8 million NEM in it.   

It should auto-update but webstart still seems to have some problems on some systems.

[BloodyRookie]

Do we actually have to keep on downloading these things or does our monitor update?

Already lost a testnet account with like 8 million NEM in it.   

Hi TaunSew,

usually it should be enough to shut down the software and relaunch by double clicking the nem monitor icon.
But we are still struggling with webstart not updating on some systems.

Bloody Rookie

[Kmonk]

I don't really understand why people want to just duplicate existing fiat systems here in the crypto world. Shouldn't we be trying to thinking of better systems that won't enslave all of humanity?

This is a classic Stockholm syndrome reaction.

So how much of NEM's soul needs to be sold for that slot in the limelight?  

[TaunSew]

I don't really understand why people want to just duplicate existing fiat systems here in the crypto world. Shouldn't we be trying to thinking of better systems that won't enslave all of humanity?

This is a classic Stockholm syndrome reaction.

So how much of NEM's soul needs to be sold for that slot in the limelight?  

Credit & Financing came before the existing fiat systems.  Credit & Financing is something which goes back several millennia and it is a requirement for most entrepreneurial activity.    You need an institutionalized middle man to do risk assessment and to loan out capital to entrepreneurs.

Where the enslavement part comes is the lack of sound money and the subsequent inflation & stagflation.   

[bahamapascal]

Guys, how about sending out PM's, so that stake holders actually know that phase 2 has started? I only found out through FaceBook that phase 2 started

i mailed pat about that already(about half an hour ago actually..) if he doesnt have time i should be able to send out.

OK, thats great.

[rockethead]

I don't really understand why people want to just duplicate existing fiat systems here in the crypto world. Shouldn't we be trying to thinking of better systems that won't enslave all of humanity?

This is a classic Stockholm syndrome reaction.

So how much of NEM's soul needs to be sold for that slot in the limelight?  

In what context does the statement correlate to Stockholm syndrome reaction? Care to elaborate?

[rockethead]

Reading  comments from some NEM main members questioning people's reading skills/intelligence because they don't know what to do is rather insulting. What if english is not someone's first language? How are they able to follow this maze of information?

Point me to that post.

These are just two that I found quickly, but there are more:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654845.msg9369257#msg9369257

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654845.msg9298104#msg9298104

You are vindictive aren't you? You carried another name here before in the NEM forum?

You sure act like a kid who's been deprived of his candy.

[dodgecharger]

Beta 0.4.17 works very well, Great work Team Dev  
if any member of the Portuguese language need help let me know

Beta 0.4.17 funciona muito bem, Grande trabalho time desenvolvedor  
se algum membro de língua portuguesa precisar de ajuda me avise

[makoto1337]

I still cannot change languages. Click on any and nothing happens. If I close ncc and open it again - the whole text dissappears from everywhere

It works fine here.

Changing languages works fine in 0.4.17. However, traditional Chinese seems to have some trouble, so I am looking into that.

[makoto1337]

I don't really understand why people want to just duplicate existing fiat systems here in the crypto world. Shouldn't we be trying to thinking of better systems that won't enslave all of humanity?

This is a classic Stockholm syndrome reaction.

So how much of NEM's soul needs to be sold for that slot in the limelight?  

Credit & Financing came before the existing fiat systems.  Credit & Financing is something which goes back several millennia and it is a requirement for most entrepreneurial activity.    You need an institutionalized middle man to do risk assessment and to loan out capital to entrepreneurs.

Where the enslavement part comes is the lack of sound money and the subsequent inflation & stagflation.   

Credit/financing can be done using crypto in a decentralized way, without resorting to monolithic centralization.

We could probably use NEM business rules to let people do micro loans to others and receive small payments/interest in return. Trust could be handled based on public feedback and also importance score could be used as part of a rating system. This rating system could be a layer built on top of NEM, but the actual financing would be P2P, decentralized. With such a system, people could still get financing to build new things and the world would be flatter.

[makoto1337]

Reading  comments from some NEM main members questioning people's reading skills/intelligence because they don't know what to do is rather insulting. What if english is not someone's first language? How are they able to follow this maze of information?

Point me to that post.

These are just two that I found quickly, but there are more:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654845.msg9369257#msg9369257

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654845.msg9298104#msg9298104

I agree that things are confusing. It would be nice if we could update the homepage to clearly list redemption info.

This page that xtester put together should help simplify, though, so please spread it around: https://medium.com/@xtester/updated-phase-2-redemption-guide-401e63b43344

Deadline is Nov 22 for stake redemption.