[Awesome Miner] - Powerful Windows GUI to manage and monitor up to 200000 miners

[rafaeldelrey]

Hi all,

what are you using? 24 hour average estimate or 24 hour average current? Or maybe only current? and why? Someone is doing some test?

Thanks to all 

With yiimp based pools I use the current estimate. The 24 hour estimate is an average of the previous 24 hours. Yiimp does not attempt to predict the next 24 hours (if it could do that with any accuracy we would all be rich ).

As they say in the financial services industry, past performance is not indicative of future results.

I'm sure others will have different opinions.

I agree and understand.

I have been collecting coin stats, and trying to make a profit switch algorithm.  It is really hard.  You get a current difficulty, or a 24h average, or 2, 4,8 h... this is by no mean, an indicative of future performance.  Take for example DNR, whose difficulty swings wildly in -1000% to + 1000% from an avegare.  Even if someone figure out how to do this, there is still the price.  Some coins have a high volatility in exchanges.  

I will try to use machine learning in order to predict a little better future performance, based on past and current data, but there is no garantee it will work.  

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[Bob-Bit]

Hello. Thank you for a great program, and even more so because it is constantly evolving with the great suggestions of actual miners. I'd like to second (or third, or fourth, who's counting?) the suggestion of benchmarking every algorithm with every mining software available. Also I was thinking about the periodic re-benchmark feature. My little contribution to that would be if you could set it to let's say "Benchmark approximately every 7-10 days" "Benchmark approximately every 15-20 days", etc, then, the cool part would be that the program runs the benchmark when it detects (for instance) the current profitability is at it's lowest point in the last period. (like run the benchmark sometime between the 7th and 10th day or the 15th-20th day using stats from the period in the example) Also it would be cool to select which mining software re-benchmarks, so you could deselect mining software that isn't even in the ballpark, and only re-benchmark serious contenders. Just a couple ideas that could help, since it seems we're always chasing that 5 or 10 percent that we've lost in profitability. Also, maybe this is obvious, but for re-benchmarking it would be great if it could be  ran on only one GPU if they are all the same model to reduce downtime. And once again, thank you for all you do!

[Seanklei10]

Hello. Thank you for a great program, and even more so because it is constantly evolving with the great suggestions of actual miners. I'd like to second (or third, or fourth, who's counting?) the suggestion of benchmarking every algorithm with every mining software available. Also I was thinking about the periodic re-benchmark feature. My little contribution to that would be if you could set it to let's say "Benchmark approximately every 7-10 days" "Benchmark approximately every 15-20 days", etc, then, the cool part would be that the program runs the benchmark when it detects (for instance) the current profitability is at it's lowest point in the last period. (like run the benchmark sometime between the 7th and 10th day or the 15th-20th day using stats from the period in the example) Also it would be cool to select which mining software re-benchmarks, so you could deselect mining software that isn't even in the ballpark, and only re-benchmark serious contenders. Just a couple ideas that could help, since it seems we're always chasing that 5 or 10 percent that we've lost in profitability. Also, maybe this is obvious, but for re-benchmarking it would be great if it could be  ran on only one GPU if they are all the same model to reduce downtime. And once again, thank you for all you do!

I don't understand the need for all of this benchmarking. Unless new software comes out your hashrate for a given algo on a specific mining software will always be a constant.

[Bob-Bit]

Difficulty changes all the time. Also I don't know about everyone else, but the temperature in NY changes week by week. A few weeks ago it was 62 in my apartment (I don't use heat just miners) and 5 degrees outside with all windows closed. Now it's 75 in my apartment using window fans and 72 outside. That makes a difference too. I rebenchmark every once in awhile already so it would be cool if the program did it for me, and choose the best time to do it when profits are low already. Even a 1-2% increase in profits on one or 2 algorithims could be alot of money being left on the table. It would be an option of course, and like I said, you could just select the top contenders ie:results of 620s 650s 660s 661s 662s, you could check off the 660, 661, and 662. Maybe the next week (or set it for a month, or even 2) the mining software that was registering as 661 is now doing 607, and the one that was 662 is coming up at 659 now.

[patrike]

Patrike the HTTP API coin setting is wonderful, thank you very much. I am making extensive use of it.

As another line item, can you please add the ability to create new coins via the API as well? The plugins I'm writing/hope to be distributing sorely need it.

Something along the lines of:
POST http://mypc:17790/api/coins/NEW?longname=COIN_NAME&shortname=CNNME&algo=skein

Thank you!

Request to the top!

I've noted your request, and I fully understand your requirement.

Thank you!!

Yo Patrike, any chance on an update on this? I'm starting to release my plugins for your product and it will really help to have this feature to reduce people's setup time.  

Also some users have mentioned that when using the BTC/MHs per day option they lose price quotes because AM obviously does not get the pricing info. It would be realllyyy helpful if I could just send the coin details (price, diff, etc) over the API so they don't lose that.  

Thanks!

Hello!

First of all, thanks for your great work on adding additional coins and statistics to Awesome Miner with your scripts.

I do have some good news for you. I've implemented support for adding and removing user defined coins via the API . There will be a new development release with support for it in a few days from now.

Add user defined coin with profitability
Similar to the API call to set coin profitability, a new user defined coin can automatically be added if no coin with the specified short name exists. The name and algorithm parameters must be specified for the coin to be added. If the coin already exists, the name and algorithm parameters will be ignored and only the profitability will be updated.

Code:

POST http://mypc:17790/api/coins/{shortname}?profit=...&name=...&algorithm=...

Example:

Code:

POST http://mypc:17790/api/coins/ABC?profit=0.000015&name=MyAbcCoin&algorithm=Scrypt

Delete user defined coin

Code:

DELETE http://mypc:17790/api/coins/{shortname}

Example:

Code:

DELETE http://mypc:17790/api/coins/ABC

What I've not finalized yet is a way to set other parameters like coin difficulty and so on. I can add that quite fast if there is a need for it as well - just let me know. Any feedback is of course welcome.

[patrike]

Development update

This purpose of this post is to give an update on what's in the pipeline right now. The plan is to have a development release available in a couple of days from now, and then a public release about one week from now.

- Pool Balance: Show unpaid balance and recent payouts from the pools used by the profit switcher (Nicehash, zpool, MPH, ...). In the future this will be improved by also tracking pool hashrates and similar information where available.
- Bminer mining software
- New pools for the profit switcher

In addition to the above, there will also be a number of smaller improvements as well.

I appreciate all feedback and discussions about improvements. I prioritize the development based on the most requested features in order to make as many users as possible happy.

[patrike]

There's an announcement on Ahashpool about them changing the unit for "scrypt" to mBTC/Gh/day (from previously mBTC/Mh/day) to match other pools.
Does Awesome Miner need to update for this to keep the calculations correct?

Yes, an update to Awesome Miner will be required. Awesome Miner will have to take the new value and divide by 1000 to get the correct reading.

For some reason, Yiimp pools use the same hash rate unit for display on the web site as in their API's. Preferably the API's should have a fixed unit, but that's not the case. Nicehash also uses that design.

[patrike]

I agree with you on those suggestions. I dream of a precise benchmark that would do as follow :
- For each algorithm, test all compatible software and select the best one as the one to use ! For example an equihash test on nvidia card would select the best software between ccminer, EWBF and DSTM.
- Once the software is selected, then make another test to determine for each algorithm what would be the best intensity.

On top of that, if AM would be able to make similar profit calculations as Nemosminer can do, we could have the best managing sofware for miners !

Thanks for the suggestions. I agree that the benchmarking can be improved. I will use your feedback and the feedback in a few other posts here as input to future improvements of Awesome Miner.

[patrike]

Hello Patrike,
Is it possible to see what is happening in console tab of a rig even if we set in environment properties to hide the window ?

That's not supported. Right now Awesome Miner is taking the screen capture of the console window and display. If the window is hidden, that's unfortunately not possible.

[mdpauley]

Development update

This purpose of this post is to give an update on what's in the pipeline right now. The plan is to have a development release available in a couple of days from now, and then a public release about one week from now.

- Pool Balance: Show unpaid balance and recent payouts from the pools used by the profit switcher (Nicehash, zpool, MPH, ...). In the future this will be improved by also tracking pool hashrates and similar information where available.
- Bminer mining software
- New pools for the profit switcher

In addition to the above, there will also be a number of smaller improvements as well.

I appreciate all feedback and discussions about improvements. I prioritize the development based on the most requested features in order to make as many users as possible happy.

@patrike, I'm running a main device and 1 remote agent. I have excavator installed in the exact same places on both rigs. Excavator fails to start on the remote rig though. Is there a trick to have it run on both?

thanks!

[eminer001]

Hi all,

what are you using? 24 hour average estimate or 24 hour average current? Or maybe only current? and why? Someone is doing some test?

Thanks to all  

With yiimp based pools I use the current estimate. The 24 hour estimate is an average of the previous 24 hours. Yiimp does not attempt to predict the next 24 hours (if it could do that with any accuracy we would all be rich ).

As they say in the financial services industry, past performance is not indicative of future results.

I'm sure others will have different opinions.

I agree and understand.

I have been collecting coin stats, and trying to make a profit switch algorithm.  It is really hard.  You get a current difficulty, or a 24h average, or 2, 4,8 h... this is by no mean, an indicative of future performance.  Take for example DNR, whose difficulty swings wildly in -1000% to + 1000% from an avegare.  Even if someone figure out how to do this, there is still the price.  Some coins have a high volatility in exchanges.  

I will try to use machine learning in order to predict a little better future performance, based on past and current data, but there is no garantee it will work.  

It will work great with TensorFlow to implement a neural network that if you train and configure correctly it would be useful.
Remember that there is always someone with a higher knowledge than you that can know more than you, and TensorFlow is a great product.

Have a great day.

[eminer001]

Hello. Thank you for a great program, and even more so because it is constantly evolving with the great suggestions of actual miners. I'd like to second (or third, or fourth, who's counting?) the suggestion of benchmarking every algorithm with every mining software available. Also I was thinking about the periodic re-benchmark feature. My little contribution to that would be if you could set it to let's say "Benchmark approximately every 7-10 days" "Benchmark approximately every 15-20 days", etc, then, the cool part would be that the program runs the benchmark when it detects (for instance) the current profitability is at it's lowest point in the last period. (like run the benchmark sometime between the 7th and 10th day or the 15th-20th day using stats from the period in the example) Also it would be cool to select which mining software re-benchmarks, so you could deselect mining software that isn't even in the ballpark, and only re-benchmark serious contenders. Just a couple ideas that could help, since it seems we're always chasing that 5 or 10 percent that we've lost in profitability. Also, maybe this is obvious, but for re-benchmarking it would be great if it could be  ran on only one GPU if they are all the same model to reduce downtime. And once again, thank you for all you do!

I am very happy you all see that my pragmatic ideas are good and that you all want fair pools and a better product from Awesome Miner.

[soothaa]

Hello!

First of all, thanks for your great work on adding additional coins and statistics to Awesome Miner with your scripts.

I do have some good news for you. I've implemented support for adding and removing user defined coins via the API . There will be a new development release with support for it in a few days from now.

Add user defined coin with profitability
Similar to the API call to set coin profitability, a new user defined coin can automatically be added if no coin with the specified short name exists. The name and algorithm parameters must be specified for the coin to be added. If the coin already exists, the name and algorithm parameters will be ignored and only the profitability will be updated.

Code:

POST http://mypc:17790/api/coins/{shortname}?profit=...&name=...&algorithm=...

Example:

Code:

POST http://mypc:17790/api/coins/ABC?profit=0.000015&name=MyAbcCoin&algorithm=Scrypt

Delete user defined coin

Code:

DELETE http://mypc:17790/api/coins/{shortname}

Example:

Code:

DELETE http://mypc:17790/api/coins/ABC

Awesome! Thank you, this will help quite a lot.

What I've not finalized yet is a way to set other parameters like coin difficulty and so on. I can add that quite fast if there is a need for it as well - just let me know. Any feedback is of course welcome.

Yes, that would be a huge help to me and anyone else who wants to add many custom coins in the future.

[eminer001]

Development update

This purpose of this post is to give an update on what's in the pipeline right now. The plan is to have a development release available in a couple of days from now, and then a public release about one week from now.

- Pool Balance: Show unpaid balance and recent payouts from the pools used by the profit switcher (Nicehash, zpool, MPH, ...). In the future this will be improved by also tracking pool hashrates and similar information where available.
- Bminer mining software
- New pools for the profit switcher

In addition to the above, there will also be a number of smaller improvements as well.

I appreciate all feedback and discussions about improvements. I prioritize the development based on the most requested features in order to make as many users as possible happy.

Thank you very much Patrike, for the effort and understanding the things that are really important for our returns.

Tracking and storing a history of pool hashrates is very useful, because we will be able to select the pools that are fair and have the highest profits using as I suggested, the unique miner ID identifications. You have the statistics refreshed every few seconds for each miner from pool API, with the updated total hashes and you can see the progress between 2 different units of time.

Thank you for adding new pools like:  zergpool  minemoney  blazepool or other pools that will help us diversify and select the pools with the highest proffits.

For example zergpool has 0% fee and if their exchange fee is lower than ~6% exchange fee that we all pay to to pools, to change mined coins to BTC, we will be able to have 10% more profit and use that pool.

Thank you for that.


 

[cain2941ll]

What is the command to single out a single GPU on Excavator, i found it does Neoscrypt 2x higher than my ccminer, so wanted to use it as part of profit switching, but want to be able to specify which GPU's to use it on only like i do on ccminer (-d 1) in command line

--cuda 0 1 2

I can't seem to get this to work.  Under profit profile, I select excavator, configure, then use --cuda 1 in the command line argument but that doesn't seem to effect anything.  I have a GPU in 0 and 1.

[streaml1ne]

Patrike,

When do you think we can get PhoenixMiner supported as a managed profit miner?

[patrike]

Development update

This purpose of this post is to give an update on what's in the pipeline right now. The plan is to have a development release available in a couple of days from now, and then a public release about one week from now.

- Pool Balance: Show unpaid balance and recent payouts from the pools used by the profit switcher (Nicehash, zpool, MPH, ...). In the future this will be improved by also tracking pool hashrates and similar information where available.
- Bminer mining software
- New pools for the profit switcher

In addition to the above, there will also be a number of smaller improvements as well.

I appreciate all feedback and discussions about improvements. I prioritize the development based on the most requested features in order to make as many users as possible happy.

@patrike, I'm running a main device and 1 remote agent. I have excavator installed in the exact same places on both rigs. Excavator fails to start on the remote rig though. Is there a trick to have it run on both?

thanks!

Please use the Diagnostics button in the toolbar to see if you get any specific error messages.

[patrike]

Hello!

First of all, thanks for your great work on adding additional coins and statistics to Awesome Miner with your scripts.

I do have some good news for you. I've implemented support for adding and removing user defined coins via the API . There will be a new development release with support for it in a few days from now.

Add user defined coin with profitability
Similar to the API call to set coin profitability, a new user defined coin can automatically be added if no coin with the specified short name exists. The name and algorithm parameters must be specified for the coin to be added. If the coin already exists, the name and algorithm parameters will be ignored and only the profitability will be updated.

Code:

POST http://mypc:17790/api/coins/{shortname}?profit=...&name=...&algorithm=...

Example:

Code:

POST http://mypc:17790/api/coins/ABC?profit=0.000015&name=MyAbcCoin&algorithm=Scrypt

Delete user defined coin

Code:

DELETE http://mypc:17790/api/coins/{shortname}

Example:

Code:

DELETE http://mypc:17790/api/coins/ABC

Awesome! Thank you, this will help quite a lot.

What I've not finalized yet is a way to set other parameters like coin difficulty and so on. I can add that quite fast if there is a need for it as well - just let me know. Any feedback is of course welcome.

Yes, that would be a huge help to me and anyone else who wants to add many custom coins in the future.

I will go ahead and just add a few more URL parameters for these coin properties. The overall concept will still be the same.

[patrike]

Patrike,

When do you think we can get PhoenixMiner supported as a managed profit miner?

Once Bminer is fully tested and released next week, Phoenix Miner is the next mining software on the priority list.

[streaml1ne]

Patrike,

When do you think we can get PhoenixMiner supported as a managed profit miner?

Once Bminer is fully tested and released next week, Phoenix Miner is the next mining software on the priority list.

Excellent, thank you sir.