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I noticed you used translations that were favorable to your point. You need to take a theology class as an elective. That's not what those passages mean at all. There are far too many ways to interpret the bible and way too many translations. Before we seek to consider some specific issues regarding the application of Paul’s teaching in 1 Corinthians 11:1-16, let us first sum up what Paul has taught. To sum up verses 1-16, Paul is instructing women to cover their heads in order to demonstrate to the angels and celestial powers their submission to God’s appointed authority. Paul does not present head coverings as a matter of his opinion, but as an apostolic tradition. He does not describe this as a matter of Christian liberty, or as a personal conviction, but as a matter of obedience. (“Let her cover her head” in verse 6 is an imperative, buttressed by the “ought” of verse 10.) Paul mentions no other alternative symbol nor does he imply there may be some other way to symbolize submission to male headship. He also speaks of the head covering of women as the consistent practice of every church and not just that of the Corinthian church. Anyone who would wish to debate with Paul over his teaching in these verses seeks to reject a tradition held and practiced in every church.
Nothing is clearer in verses 3-9 than that Paul wants the woman to wear a head covering because such adornment appropriately distinguishes women from men. Indeed, the focus on male headship over women in verse 3 shows that Paul wants women to wear a head covering in order to show that they are submissive to male headship.154 Question: "What does it mean that there is only one baptism (Ephesians 4:5)?"
Answer: Ephesians 4:4-6 says, "There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called; one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all." Since there are different "baptisms" referred to in the New Testament, it can be a bit confusing when we read about "one baptism." The word baptize always means “to submerge or immerse.” So, when baptism is discussed, it involves a person being totally submerged into something else. Baptism implies being "all in." It also implies that a change has taken place. Baptized people are changed people.
Generally speaking, there are two types of baptism: a physical (water) baptism and a spiritual baptism. One is literal, done in water; the other is figurative, accomplished in the Spirit.
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June 09, 2015, 02:54:08 AM Last edit: June 09, 2015, 03:05:39 AM by username18333 |
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I noticed you used translations that were favorable to your point. You need to take a theology class as an elective. That's not what those passages mean at all. There are far too many ways to interpret the bible and way too many translations.
0. If you cannot trust the Darby Translation, refer to an interlinear translation of the Christian Bible that you can trust. 1. Thanks for telling me, Jesus. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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June 09, 2015, 03:05:14 AM |
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I noticed you used translations that were favorable to your point. You need to take a theology class as an elective. That's not what those passages mean at all. There are far too many ways to interpret the bible and way too many translations.
0. If you do not trust the Darby Translation, refer to an interlinear translation of the Christian Bible that you can trust. 1. Thanks for telling me, Jesus. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Even priests don't think it means what you do.
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June 09, 2015, 03:06:40 AM |
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Even priests don't think it means what you do.
Elucidate the significance of this. (I.e., Democritus was an atomist. Am I, therefore, to be an atomist as well?)
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June 09, 2015, 03:12:11 AM |
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Even priests don't think it means what you do.
Elucidate the significance of this. (I.e., Democritus was an atomist. Am I, therefore, to be an atomist as well?) Sorry, I'm not really into debating the hidden meanings of presocratic philosophy.
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June 09, 2015, 03:14:32 AM |
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Sorry, I'm not really into debating the hidden meanings of presocratic philosophy.
(I can see why.)
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June 10, 2015, 06:40:47 AM Last edit: June 10, 2015, 07:22:56 AM by LaudaM |
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The words written in the Bible are worth just about anything that was ever written about Norse Mythology. Maybe Odin is your "god". I thought the thread was supposed to be about scientific evidence that "god" exists; then why are you quoting the Bible? scientific - based on or characterized by the methods and principles of science. These threads often drift away from their original subject, however we should at least try to prevent that.
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June 10, 2015, 08:57:51 AM |
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Would God be a God if he needs scinetific proof?
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June 10, 2015, 01:13:56 PM |
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Would God be a God if he needs scinetific proof?
Depends what God, this thread is pretty misleading, God could be referred to the Bible God, in most cases but it could also mean God as in a general God that created everything but its not in the bible or any other religious book. God its a superior being that knows everything bla bla bla, that doesnt mean we shouldnt be able to scientifically prove his existence
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June 20, 2015, 08:41:24 PM |
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I have users in my Flat Earth thread telling me that Atheism is a hoax. What more proof do you need?
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June 20, 2015, 08:56:00 PM |
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I have users in my Flat Earth thread telling me that Atheism is a hoax. What more proof do you need?
Atheism can't be a hoax because my penis is perfectly proportional to a midsummer cucumber.
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June 21, 2015, 04:53:59 AM |
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Ah this thread is a war between atheists and believers. Well atheist here, but no comments. Depends on each of your faith, I don't believe in a superior being be it an alien(someone mentioned it) or God(who supposedly created the universe), but as Human being's nature, they want to believe in a superior being, well so be it. I say it depends on your faith , but wars and stuff in name of religion are just pure evil.
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June 21, 2015, 08:15:05 AM |
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What do you think? Please share your opinion about this article. 101 Proofs For God A growing list of common sense Proofs for God. Proof for God, #65 Mitochondrial Eve and Y-Chromosome Adam Genetic scientists seem to be in general agreement that we are all descendants of one woman and one man. This research was fairly recent, starting about 1978. They, of course, do not believe in the creation story of Adam and Eve in the Bible, but their conclusions are getting closer and closer. In case you have not heard about this, it makes very interesting reading. But I think it raises a number of profound challenges to the Theory of Evolution. The scientists base the above conclusions on the known facts of human reproduction, specifically on properties of the sperm and egg. ..... Full article read here: http://101proofsforgod.blogspot.com/2014/07/65-mitochondial-eve-and-y-chromosome.htmlGod is just a human creation. I remember a joke that goes around at my place: If God and Human were to come face to face they'd both say 'Look, my creator' It's true Isn't just? We've created a greater power to blame things upon when the path twists in an unwanted way. God doesn't exist!
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June 21, 2015, 08:25:24 AM |
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God doesn't exist!
It's impossible for you to know this. Your just wildly guessing.
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June 21, 2015, 07:28:09 PM |
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If you lack a belief in a particular god, you are an atheist or agnostic by definition ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif)
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June 21, 2015, 10:33:57 PM |
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Science cannot prove that God exists.. simple as that
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June 24, 2015, 06:07:30 AM |
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"Presumably all atheists are humanists, since what else could they be?" --Atheism and Secularity, Page 10 (2009) Therefore, atheism can presumably be refuted by refuting humanism; indeed, there is quite a lot of evidence supporting survival of the personality: http://www.aeces.info/Top40/top40-main.shtmlhttp://www.near-death.com/evidence.htmlWhy would one live "as if" there is no afterlife when the evidence against humanism is so plentiful? Just check it out for yourself!
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June 24, 2015, 01:35:59 PM |
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Science cannot prove that God exists.. simple as that
Science cannot prove most of the scientific assertions and theories, either. The evidence that exists suggests that God exists so extremely much more than the opposite that it has become proof for many. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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What do you think? Please share your opinion about this article. 101 Proofs For God A growing list of common sense Proofs for God. Proof for God, #65 Mitochondrial Eve and Y-Chromosome Adam Genetic scientists seem to be in general agreement that we are all descendants of one woman and one man. This research was fairly recent, starting about 1978. They, of course, do not believe in the creation story of Adam and Eve in the Bible, but their conclusions are getting closer and closer. In case you have not heard about this, it makes very interesting reading. But I think it raises a number of profound challenges to the Theory of Evolution. The scientists base the above conclusions on the known facts of human reproduction, specifically on properties of the sperm and egg. ..... Full article read here: http://101proofsforgod.blogspot.com/2014/07/65-mitochondial-eve-and-y-chromosome.htmlGod is just a human creation. I remember a joke that goes around at my place: If God and Human were to come face to face they'd both say 'Look, my creator' It's true Isn't just? We've created a greater power to blame things upon when the path twists in an unwanted way. God doesn't exist! Here we go. Another joker setting himself up as god by suggesting that God doesn't exist in the face of strong evidence that He does: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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June 24, 2015, 01:39:31 PM |
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What do you think? Please share your opinion about this article. 101 Proofs For God A growing list of common sense Proofs for God. Proof for God, #65 Mitochondrial Eve and Y-Chromosome Adam Genetic scientists seem to be in general agreement that we are all descendants of one woman and one man. This research was fairly recent, starting about 1978. They, of course, do not believe in the creation story of Adam and Eve in the Bible, but their conclusions are getting closer and closer. In case you have not heard about this, it makes very interesting reading. But I think it raises a number of profound challenges to the Theory of Evolution. The scientists base the above conclusions on the known facts of human reproduction, specifically on properties of the sperm and egg. ..... Full article read here: http://101proofsforgod.blogspot.com/2014/07/65-mitochondial-eve-and-y-chromosome.htmlGod is just a human creation. I remember a joke that goes around at my place: If God and Human were to come face to face they'd both say 'Look, my creator' It's true Isn't just? We've created a greater power to blame things upon when the path twists in an unwanted way. God doesn't exist! Here we go. Another joker setting himself up as god by suggesting that God doesn't exist in the face of strong evidence that He does: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) fallacies and other stories =/= truth or proof, we already told you this plenty of times badecker, someone has yet to accept your ''proofs''
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