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May 19, 2015, 12:34:12 AM
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PSA for anybody who didn't hear the news.  Poloniex will be requiring your identity before you can withdraw coins starting on May 20th, which is in about 24 hours.  Better get your coins off there ASAP if you don't want to be privacy raped.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/36er4h/poloniex_changes_identity_margin_trading_lending/

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That seemed to happen damn fast. Most likely so they don't have to deal with mass outrage. I suspect it's probably just the first step though to requiring ids as well.

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May 19, 2015, 12:39:41 AM
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any efforts right now will be wasted. i dont know how many times i have to repeat myself: only morons and gamblers are going to see an incomplete project in a vast ocean of scams as a good investment. we may pick up 1 or 2 people every week, but the vast majority of people see no benefit in buying SDC right now.

Why? Why would adding things like the market make one bit of difference to a CURRENCY's long term prospects. Right now, the coin is "done" and anything else is just "stuff" built on top of it. It's an anonymous currency that can be used by the masses. Things like the market are only going to create a bump in the price and will simply be home for mostly things like SilkRoad. The masses won't care about those things, they're going to want a coin they can use to buy real things with simply and fast. The coin is ready to do that now without any "fluff". 99% of the coins out now will always be "failures" because they have no plan or effort for adoption. How many faucets are there for SDC right now? How many gambling sites and/or games can you use SDC on? That's just basic crypto stuff and SDC has pretty much none of that. Until people stop waiting for more "stuff" and actually start getting it adopted, it's never going to be more than just another coin to trade on exchanges. The coin doesn't need investors, it needs adoption.

Are you claiming faucets, games, and gambling make coins? Half of the coins out there have these things, but I wouldn't go about claiming those to be successful. In my opinion, for a coin to be successful it needs to have it's own ecosystem. When the market is released and the SDK is put together, then we can see this come to fruition.

That's not what I said. Reread it.

You claim we need adoption. I claim that adoption will come as more things are released. Pushing for adoption too early can be dangerous. Satoshi warned against it with bitcoin and I agree with that. Just let things develop naturally. No need to force anything on this baby coin.

The thing is, the project will never really be done. Going back and reading stuff shortly after the ShadowSend2 release, it appears that it's not the final version and that there will be a ShadowSend3 and maybe even 4. There will always be things that can be added and updated. Taking a "if we build it they will come" approach rarely works and I've been involved in a number of projects outside this realm that have proved that time and time again. At it's core, SDC is a currency meant to buy and sell things. That's "done" and so there's no reason for there not to be an effort for more adoption and real world use. Adoption is a slow process and should be constantly ongoing.

As for waiting for the marketplace, NXT has a marketplace. I haven't got myself back up to speed on that project but it seems to have had little effect on that coins adoption. Maybe it's too limited or something, as I said I haven't got back up to speed on that coin. At least from a price standpoint, it's around 3700 now and late last year when I was trading it, it was around the 5000-6000 mark. So really, thinking that the market will somehow change the coins adoption/popularity appears to be just based in wishful thinking.

At a quick glance, the nxt marketplace requires a seperate software download and only has games, music, and ebooks as categories. It also doesn't offer the same anonymity as sdc.
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May 19, 2015, 12:48:56 AM
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PSA for anybody who didn't hear the news.  Poloniex will be requiring your identity before you can withdraw coins starting on May 20th, which is in about 24 hours.  Better get your coins off there ASAP if you don't want to be privacy raped.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/36er4h/poloniex_changes_identity_margin_trading_lending/

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That seemed to happen damn fast. Most likely so they don't have to deal with mass outrage. I suspect it's probably just the first step though to requiring ids as well.

Finally, something we agree on.

"the destruction of privacy widens the existing power imbalance between the ruling factions and everyone else" -- Julian Assange
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May 19, 2015, 02:44:37 AM
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PSA for anybody who didn't hear the news.  Poloniex will be requiring your identity before you can withdraw coins starting on May 20th, which is in about 24 hours.  Better get your coins off there ASAP if you don't want to be privacy raped.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/36er4h/poloniex_changes_identity_margin_trading_lending/

Warn others.
That seemed to happen damn fast. Most likely so they don't have to deal with mass outrage. I suspect it's probably just the first step though to requiring ids as well.

Finally, something we agree on.
Since there is talk about polo's new changes, I thought I would post this here.  OMK posted this link for me.

http://www.fincen.gov/financial_institutions/msb/pdf/31CFR10320.pdf

I haven't seen this and thought it was interesting.  Maybe a few others will too.  Has to do with their requirement to report "suspicious transactions". MSB are required to report "suspicious transactions" and will need personal information to do so.  That's part of the reason for these changes
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May 19, 2015, 03:03:39 AM
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Picked up a few more SDC today along with some Viral. Feeling great about both investments.

I need crypto in my life and garbage out of it.
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May 19, 2015, 03:57:47 AM
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Picked up a few more SDC today along with some Viral. Feeling great about both investments.
awesome welcome !

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May 19, 2015, 04:24:32 AM
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PSA for anybody who didn't hear the news.  Poloniex will be requiring your identity before you can withdraw coins starting on May 20th, which is in about 24 hours.  Better get your coins off there ASAP if you don't want to be privacy raped.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/36er4h/poloniex_changes_identity_margin_trading_lending/

Warn others.
That seemed to happen damn fast. Most likely so they don't have to deal with mass outrage. I suspect it's probably just the first step though to requiring ids as well.


Looks like a dirty trick. Sure, everyone will give fake info. Then they demand ID before letting you withdraw, and if your ID doesn't match your fake info you are screwed.

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May 19, 2015, 05:57:05 AM
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PSA for anybody who didn't hear the news.  Poloniex will be requiring your identity before you can withdraw coins starting on May 20th, which is in about 24 hours.  Better get your coins off there ASAP if you don't want to be privacy raped.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/36er4h/poloniex_changes_identity_margin_trading_lending/

Warn others.
That seemed to happen damn fast. Most likely so they don't have to deal with mass outrage. I suspect it's probably just the first step though to requiring ids as well.


Looks like a dirty trick. Sure, everyone will give fake info. Then they demand ID before letting you withdraw, and if your ID doesn't match your fake info you are screwed.

I had exactly the same thought lol

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May 19, 2015, 06:00:09 AM
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Are there any known issues when using an "old" wallet? I have a wallet from late last year and am trying to get the new client to get sync'd. It runs for a little bit and then throws an error saying something about not being able to open the wallet. It opened it fine at the start obviously as it's showing a balance but while it's syncing I end up with this and have to restart. I noticed that my old wallet is 88k in size and the default one it generated when I first started it, is 96k.

Also, is there a way to export my private keys and then reimport them? Can't seem to find that anywhere.

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May 19, 2015, 06:31:32 AM
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Are there any known issues when using an "old" wallet? I have a wallet from late last year and am trying to get the new client to get sync'd. It runs for a little bit and then throws an error saying something about not being able to open the wallet. It opened it fine at the start obviously as it's showing a balance but while it's syncing I end up with this and have to restart. I noticed that my old wallet is 88k in size and the default one it generated when I first started it, is 96k.

Also, is there a way to export my private keys and then reimport them? Can't seem to find that anywhere.
YES! we forked remember old wallets are no longer on the correct chain, i had a few problems with the new wallet but i it must ofbeen my new computer because i downloaded it on the old one and it works well, not many people are having issues so I|am thinking it's most likely on your end because it was on mine also.
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May 19, 2015, 07:01:55 AM
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Are there any known issues when using an "old" wallet? I have a wallet from late last year and am trying to get the new client to get sync'd. It runs for a little bit and then throws an error saying something about not being able to open the wallet. It opened it fine at the start obviously as it's showing a balance but while it's syncing I end up with this and have to restart. I noticed that my old wallet is 88k in size and the default one it generated when I first started it, is 96k.

Also, is there a way to export my private keys and then reimport them? Can't seem to find that anywhere.
YES! we forked remember old wallets are no longer on the correct chain, i had a few problems with the new wallet but i it must ofbeen my new computer because i downloaded it on the old one and it works well, not many people are having issues so I|am thinking it's most likely on your end because it was on mine also.

I'm referring to the wallet.dat file (the actual "wallet"), and not the client which most people refer to as the wallet. I'm using the latest and greatest client so it should be on the correct fork.

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May 19, 2015, 07:18:07 AM
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Are there any known issues when using an "old" wallet? I have a wallet from late last year and am trying to get the new client to get sync'd. It runs for a little bit and then throws an error saying something about not being able to open the wallet. It opened it fine at the start obviously as it's showing a balance but while it's syncing I end up with this and have to restart. I noticed that my old wallet is 88k in size and the default one it generated when I first started it, is 96k.

Also, is there a way to export my private keys and then reimport them? Can't seem to find that anywhere.
YES! we forked remember old wallets are no longer on the correct chain, i had a few problems with the new wallet but i it must ofbeen my new computer because i downloaded it on the old one and it works well, not many people are having issues so I|am thinking it's most likely on your end because it was on mine also.

I'm referring to the wallet.dat file (the actual "wallet"), and not the client which most people refer to as the wallet. I'm using the latest and greatest client so it should be on the correct fork.

ahhhh ok misread that.
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May 19, 2015, 09:31:46 AM
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Are there any known issues when using an "old" wallet? I have a wallet from late last year and am trying to get the new client to get sync'd. It runs for a little bit and then throws an error saying something about not being able to open the wallet. It opened it fine at the start obviously as it's showing a balance but while it's syncing I end up with this and have to restart. I noticed that my old wallet is 88k in size and the default one it generated when I first started it, is 96k.

Also, is there a way to export my private keys and then reimport them? Can't seem to find that anywhere.
YES! we forked remember old wallets are no longer on the correct chain, i had a few problems with the new wallet but i it must ofbeen my new computer because i downloaded it on the old one and it works well, not many people are having issues so I|am thinking it's most likely on your end because it was on mine also.

I'm referring to the wallet.dat file (the actual "wallet"), and not the client which most people refer to as the wallet. I'm using the latest and greatest client so it should be on the correct fork.


If you have a old "wallet.dat" and you load it with a new client it will upgrade it to the latest.
Try a -reindex whilst loading the wallet.

^ I am with STUPID!
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May 19, 2015, 06:05:16 PM
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It is like a dead topic here, lets start a subject,hehe

I want to sell 200k sdc with a price of 55k sat

Anyone interested?
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May 19, 2015, 06:45:42 PM
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The last time I saw an order book similar to SDCs current order book on Trex, was when DRK popped from $0.75 to $15/DRK.
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May 19, 2015, 06:52:49 PM
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The last time I saw an order book similar to SDCs current order book on Trex, was when DRK popped from $0.75 to $15/DRK.

then why dont you buy more before it is too late

it is always the same order book with sdc,nothing special if u ask me



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May 19, 2015, 06:54:01 PM
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It is like a dead topic here, lets start a subject,hehe

I want to sell 200k sdc with a price of 55k sat

Anyone interested?

I'll buy 15 bitcoins worth at 40k
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May 19, 2015, 07:03:36 PM
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It is like a dead topic here, lets start a subject,hehe

I want to sell 200k sdc with a price of 55k sat

Anyone interested?

I'll buy 15 bitcoins worth at 40k

go buy from trex, 55k i wrote
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May 19, 2015, 07:19:48 PM
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The last time I saw an order book similar to SDCs current order book on Trex, was when DRK popped from $0.75 to $15/DRK.

Indeed. That was fun!

Most the charts for LTC, PPC, NMC always looked sideways like this until the huge influx of Chinese investors and the insane amount of cryptos launched per day. A big day for LTC was jumping from 1/2 cent to 3 cents which hardly ever happened much. All the bitcoiners had the money and btc on exchanges already and they hated alts so there wasn't much movement unless some new blood took the siberian express of money transfers (paypal -> webmoneyz -> egopay -> fill in the blank -> btc-e) to finally get 78% of the fiat they started with into coins.
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May 19, 2015, 07:20:53 PM
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It is like a dead topic here, lets start a subject,hehe

I want to sell 200k sdc with a price of 55k sat

Anyone interested?

I'll buy 15 bitcoins worth at 40k

go buy from trex, 55k i wrote

go sell on trex, 40k i offer

You want to sell above market and I want to buy below market
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