[XMR] Monero Speculation

[jeen5]

even if Moreno he crashed bitcoin. because the value of is very cheap. In 2018 is $ 100. most projects are so important and valuable, I think.
 

[infofront]

Monero is dead now. No one trust xmr anymore

Was grade 3 the longest 10 years of your life?

Idiot.

You are idiot here, sir.
Go trust a coin where founder short 250BTC few minutes before announcements some big news

He knew monero was looking good now and for sure he was in need to pay soem debts hahaha

He didn't short shit. He has no reason to.

Yes - he clearly had no reason to make a lot of money in a very short time.

[solid12345]

You feel entitled, and that's why Fluffypony had to tie you to a stake and burn you to a crisp.  A sacrifice, if you will, to the Goddess of Chaos and Irrational Exuberance (ie Hubris).

Monero obviously isn't for you. Dash, which it's emphasis on marketing and paucity of technology, seems a better fit.  

If Fluffy and the rest of the team despises speculators then why can't they just work under the radar and let the technology speak for itself instead of constantly yacking on twitter and btctalk? There are LOTS of coins being developed that aren't being hyped and the devs aren't showman and because of it the price remains stable.

[7thKingdom]

You are right and I remember it well, but the flaw in this analogy was that he wasn't saying Monero is crap and patently he doesn't (and we don't) think so.  He was saying the likes of 'forthcoming announcements' (rather than working on good tech) is just crap - and to not expect this from him.

I get it, though I grant you that he could have made the point some other way given that hundreds of millions of dollars are involved.

Could he have though? I've seen this sentiment a lot since the troll job went down, but what evidence is there to support it?

He's said since day 1 that markets are irrational and don't get caught up in the pumpers games. To trust the tech not the personalities.

And yet still people are just here to ride the pumps. They don't care about the fundamentals. As evidenced by his "troll". If he could have gotten his message across some other way, well then this pump wouldn't have been as crazy as it was. By the very act that it happened it proves that this was the only way to really make his point.

A cryptocurrencies value is not in the personalities behind it. It is not in the pump potential. It is in the tech, plain and simple. People can be coerced, they can be manipulative, but the code doesn't lie.

[infofront]

Alphabay will begin accepting Zcash starting July 1.

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/6d7q81/alphabay_will_accept_zcash_starting_july_1st_2017/


As a black market entrepreneur, would you want to use a currency helmed by a group of professionals, or one helmed by an unstable, anarchist cypherpunk, who has a history of rocking the market for his own amusement?

[Bitcoinaire]

Price is back to $48-$49 level already. But it was a bone head troll on us.

[elrippo]

Monero is dead now. No one trust xmr anymore

Was grade 3 the longest 10 years of your life?

Idiot.

You are idiot here, sir.
Go trust a coin where enfounder short 250BTC few minutes before announcemts some big news

He knew monero was looking good now and for sure he was in need to pay soem debts hahaha

Proof please 

[supremnoob]

Here, sir

And dont understand me wrong, i wanna edit my post.
It not has only fuffly, it was fluffly&friends. They just doublet their money meanwhile someone just lost an aventador here

0 professionalism

[c789]

Alphabay will begin accepting Zcash starting July 1.

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/6d7q81/alphabay_will_accept_zcash_starting_july_1st_2017/


As a black market entrepreneur, would you want to use a currency helmed by a group of professionals, or one helmed by an unstable, anarchist cypherpunk, who has a history of rocking the market for his own amusement?

If I owned a DM site, I'd pick the most private, untraceable, fungible coin available that doesn't require me to trust the developers, whether that means a trusted setup or the trolling/hype of developers. Put it this way: I'd risk my life only on the best tech, and that's Monero.

Zcash may have many "professionals," but you have to trust them. I'd rather trust only verifiable source code and math, as is the case in Monero. Plus, now that Zcash is in bed with JPMorgan, I don't see how anyone can trust them.

FWIW, the price has recovered. That does not surprize me at all because Monero has always been focused on the tech, not hype. People not only want but need true fungibility. That's demand, and that's why the price will continue to be good. People can trust that it's 100% about the tech and not about hype or corporate partnerships. The price will follow that.

[MrGood]

A while ago I read someone said, very pithy, "Bitcoin Runs On Drama But Monero Runs On Comedy"

A little light entertainment proving your point.  

Hitler Reacts to Fluffypony's Monero Announcement

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2WfedZG7bo

[BitcoinNewsMagazine]

The dump started Wednesday at 3 PM Eastern time, three hours before the presentation was scheduled. Monero went from .023 to .018 before the fake news actually aired at 7 PM. Some one was in on the joke and made money. Looks pretty clear to me insider trading was going on.

[Febo]

Alphabay will begin accepting Zcash starting July 1.

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/6d7q81/alphabay_will_accept_zcash_starting_july_1st_2017/


As a black market entrepreneur, would you want to use a currency helmed by a group of professionals, or one helmed by an unstable, anarchist cypherpunk, who has a history of rocking the market for his own amusement?

If I owned a DM site, I'd pick the most private, untraceable, fungible coin available that doesn't require me to trust the developers, whether that means a trusted setup or the trolling/hype of developers. Put it this way: I'd risk my life only on the best tech, and that's Monero.

Zcash may have many "professionals," but you have to trust them. I'd rather trust only verifiable source code and math, as is the case in Monero. Plus, now that Zcash is in bed with JPMorgan, I don't see how anyone can trust them.

FWIW, the price has recovered. That does not surprize me at all because Monero has always been focused on the tech, not hype. People not only want but need true fungibility. That's demand, and that's why the price will continue to be good. People can trust that it's 100% about the tech and not about hype or corporate partnerships. The price will follow that.

They added ETH last month so they dont really care, but give their customers to chose.

[kurious]

You are right and I remember it well, but the flaw in this analogy was that he wasn't saying Monero is crap and patently he doesn't (and we don't) think so.  He was saying the likes of 'forthcoming announcements' (rather than working on good tech) is just crap - and to not expect this from him.

I get it, though I grant you that he could have made the point some other way given that hundreds of millions of dollars are involved.

Could he have though? I've seen this sentiment a lot since the troll job went down, but what evidence is there to support it?

He's said since day 1 that markets are irrational and don't get caught up in the pumpers games. To trust the tech not the personalities.

And yet still people are just here to ride the pumps. They don't care about the fundamentals. As evidenced by his "troll". If he could have gotten his message across some other way, well then this pump wouldn't have been as crazy as it was. By the very act that it happened it proves that this was the only way to really make his point.

A cryptocurrencies value is not in the personalities behind it. It is not in the pump potential. It is in the tech, plain and simple. People can be coerced, they can be manipulative, but the code doesn't lie.

I don't think you - read my posts back.  I have no problem with him saying it.  But saying in advance there was an announcement coming was a tease.  He must have known it would affect price.  It didn't bother me overly he said it - I even respect it, but doing it as the punchline of a joke has not exactly gone down well, and since he must have known it would not, it was perhaps a little reckless.

TLDR?

The message was fine, it is reasonably valid to question the delivery of it.

That's all - spilled milk now.

[supremnoob]

The dump started Wednesday at 3 PM Eastern time, three hours before the presentation was scheduled. Monero went from .023 to .018 before the fake news actually aired at 7 PM. Some one was in on the joke and made money. Looks pretty clear to me insider trading was going on.

I like how you mind. Yea, im away from monero. It was realy not nice what they did. They made money from us

[infofront]

If he made money off of the community, he's crooked. If he didn't, he's stupid.
It's bad either way.

[mnemonicsoup]

The dump started Wednesday at 3 PM Eastern time, three hours before the presentation was scheduled. Monero went from .023 to .018 before the fake news actually aired at 7 PM. Some one was in on the joke and made money. Looks pretty clear to me insider trading was going on.

I like how you mind. Yea, im away from monero. It was realy not nice what they did. They made money from us

Come on, dude. Look at your post history, you're a dogecoin troll. It's nice how so many trolls are jumping out of the bushes pretending to be heart broken by Monero.

[DonYo]

A while ago I read someone said, very pithy, "Bitcoin Runs On Drama But Monero Runs On Comedy"

A little light entertainment proving your point.  

Hitler Reacts to Fluffypony's Monero Announcement

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2WfedZG7bo

Huge

I lol'd

[goin2mars.]

Has anyone considered for a moment that that news article a few days ago calling RS the CEO may have been intentionally phrased so, knowing full well that he wasn't?

[Hueristic]

The dump started Wednesday at 3 PM Eastern time, three hours before the presentation was scheduled. Monero went from .023 to .018 before the fake news actually aired at 7 PM. Some one was in on the joke and made money. Looks pretty clear to me insider trading was going on.

This is what really bothers me even though it doesn't effect me at all.

[Billy Bunter]

I'm curious to know what Aminorex makes of this. He was there at the meeting. I wonder what the reaction was?