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January 13, 2019, 12:50:31 PM
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thanks, I forgot there was a third.


I would like to see a rebuttal as the guy who wrote that also says he has written what we are looking for already although when I read that info (I think it's called loki) I saw one gapping attack vector but I'll not mention that unless we are considering using it.

Something called LLARP?
There's also Sekreta.
Bunch of random letters and syllables to me.

I think we need a consensus from the Devs on what they think on this subject.

I personally would like to hear @Smooth thoughts on this.

Honestly I am staying the hell away from the Kovri drama. I've been wary of it for quite some time.

That is not meant as a comment either way about whether any action should or should not be taken. It is simply my position that until required by some sense of governance (such as the core team being called upon to weigh in on whether FFS milestones have been met), I will exercise my prerogative as an unpaid volunteer to not get involved with it and to work for a better Monero and a better world in other ways.
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January 13, 2019, 01:06:13 PM
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Anyone care to discuss even a single particular type of voodoo they've used throughout the years to determine exactly how loud the crickets are getting?

I think one of the ones I always liked was navigating to bitcointalk's altcoin section and, at various times of the day, observing exactly how deep the number of posts that show up as the last post having been 'TODAY', was always one of my old favorites.

I think it possibly has a bit less significance now than say 2014 being that there are many other increasingly popular avenues of collaboration, but still that one's definitely within my top ten favorite voodoo's.

Like now, there are 8 topics extending into the second page of the altcoin speculation section .. whereas during peak frenzy mode there have been well over 15 pages worth of posts indicating that 'TODAY' was the last post.

Is there a way to automize gathering these voodoo metrics, drawing a graph? For comparisons along other market metrics like trade volume.

Tracking twitter activity has been another one, but that got gamed pretty easily by the usual parties.

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January 15, 2019, 08:23:21 PM
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In the past hacks and exit scams have sometimes had an effect on the XMR price.

https://www.coindesk.com/new-zealand-crypto-exchange-cryptopia-goes-offline-citing-major-hack
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January 15, 2019, 11:10:23 PM
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In the past hacks and exit scams have sometimes had an effect on the XMR price.

https://www.coindesk.com/new-zealand-crypto-exchange-cryptopia-goes-offline-citing-major-hack

I'm surprised it took them this long to exit scam.

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January 16, 2019, 03:05:32 PM
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In the past hacks and exit scams have sometimes had an effect on the XMR price.

https://www.coindesk.com/new-zealand-crypto-exchange-cryptopia-goes-offline-citing-major-hack

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January 16, 2019, 07:48:36 PM
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In the past hacks and exit scams have sometimes had an effect on the XMR price.

https://www.coindesk.com/new-zealand-crypto-exchange-cryptopia-goes-offline-citing-major-hack

Big mistake for the 'hackers' *wink wink* not going for XMR to move their loot around.  Now they got some of it, prolly most, locked at Binance.

SHUM, LOL

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January 17, 2019, 05:29:20 PM
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Just in case people haven’t seen this yet, Theymos just added grin for acceptable payments towards copper memberships, donations, etc. on the forum:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5098450.0

Lots of trust in a coin that is a couple days old... lol.


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January 17, 2019, 09:06:59 PM
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Just in case people haven’t seen this yet, Theymos just added grin for acceptable payments towards copper memberships, donations, etc. on the forum:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5098450.0

Lots of trust in a coin that is a couple days old... lol.


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January 17, 2019, 09:40:16 PM
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Grin

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January 17, 2019, 09:41:45 PM
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I confess I understand his fascination for Grin.

Mind you, he is also a moderate fan of a certain other coin...

And i thought Grin won't launch it's mainnet anytime soon. But looks like the client is far from user-friendly and only mid-high end GPU can mine GRIN for now.

Any chance you'll accept another cryptocurrency (XMR, ETH or perhaps DOGE) soon?

XMR is possible, but probably not the others.

We aren't written off yet, then Wink

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I confess I understand his fascination for Grin.

Mind you, he is also a moderate fan of a certain other coin...

And i thought Grin won't launch it's mainnet anytime soon. But looks like the client is far from user-friendly and only mid-high end GPU can mine GRIN for now.

Any chance you'll accept another cryptocurrency (XMR, ETH or perhaps DOGE) soon?

XMR is possible, but probably not the others.

We aren't written off yet, then Wink

It’s not the point of being “approved” or not... it’s the hypocrisy that annoys me. Maximalist have always shot down any coin that has tried market itself as being a potential better solution to Bitcoin due to legit reasons such as Bitcoin’s reliability/security...

If they have strong opinions about something, like the OG bitcoin being the only crypto worthy of consideration, that’s one thing and I can totally understand that reasoning... but all the sudden accepting grin with wide open arms? Fuck that. Something is totally weird about it, yet I can’t really tell why I feel that way.

Does no one else feel this way??


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January 18, 2019, 03:34:22 AM
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I confess I understand his fascination for Grin.

Mind you, he is also a moderate fan of a certain other coin...

And i thought Grin won't launch it's mainnet anytime soon. But looks like the client is far from user-friendly and only mid-high end GPU can mine GRIN for now.

Any chance you'll accept another cryptocurrency (XMR, ETH or perhaps DOGE) soon?

XMR is possible, but probably not the others.

We aren't written off yet, then Wink

It’s not the point of being “approved” or not... it’s the hypocrisy that annoys me. Maximalist have always shot down any coin that has tried market itself as being a potential better solution to Bitcoin due to legit reasons such as Bitcoin’s reliability/security...

If they have strong opinions about something, like the OG bitcoin being the only crypto worthy of consideration, that’s one thing and I can totally understand that reasoning... but all the sudden accepting grin with wide open arms? Fuck that. Something is totally weird about it, yet I can’t really tell why I feel that way.

Does no one else feel this way??

I'm sure others feel that way -

It's weird. It seems many of the old school bitcoiners who didn't pile on Monero are now piling on Grin.

Maybe they feel like the missed the boat on Monero?
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Maybe they feel like the missed the boat on Monero?

You do know how to cut to the chase. Smiley

I missed this boat by my own mistake but still support it and buy every week (pretty much).

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How true are those rumors that Grin devs are really some of the BTC Core devs gone anon?  And who among the Core devs would most likely be working on Grin?

Another question, are there any Core devs dissatisfied with BTC?  Wink

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January 19, 2019, 11:59:20 AM
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Prices are good right now for accumulators, always useful to hold some XMR bags as it has a real world use albeit a dark one. People have guns at home for protection, it is worth having some monero as well, never know when it might come in useful.

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Prices are good right now for accumulators, always useful to hold some XMR bags as it has a real world use albeit a dark one. People have guns at home for protection, it is worth having some monero as well, never know when it might come in useful.

Yeah, just like keeping cash on hand right?

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Prices are good right now for accumulators, always useful to hold some XMR bags as it has a real world use albeit a dark one. People have guns at home for protection, it is worth having some monero as well, never know when it might come in useful.

This point is vastly underrated. The prepper community stockpiles guns and supplies completely ignorant that their preparations are useless against their most likely adversary: government. The lesson of the 20th century is that governments are highly effective genocide institutions with a death toll of approximately 203 million.

Government death toll by century:
  • 18th century: ~18 million
  • 19th century: ~ 45 million
  • 20th century: ~ 203 million

The 21st century is off to a slower start, but I expect the trend to continue. The number of displaced persons just hit a record high at 68.5 million. Things haven't even gotten bad yet from a geopolitical perspective. We will see record numbers murdered by the government in this century.

Preppers are watching doom porn and prepping for fictional scenarios. They are delusional to think their small arms stockpile will have any meaningful impact on their survival in the face of war or democide. My bugout bag consists of a hardware wallet with a year of living expenses. Bitcoin (and even more so Monero) are incredibly powerful tools for freedom. Far more than an AR-15 in your basement. If you haven't already, listen to this interview with Alex Gladstein of the human rights foundation on Why Bitcoin Matters for Freedom
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listen to this interview with Alex Gladstein of the human rights foundation on Why Bitcoin Matters for Freedom
I second that.
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Last edit: January 28, 2019, 09:17:55 PM by Hueristic
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Prices are good right now for accumulators, always useful to hold some XMR bags as it has a real world use albeit a dark one. People have guns at home for protection, it is worth having some monero as well, never know when it might come in useful.

This point is vastly underrated. The prepper community stockpiles guns and supplies completely ignorant that their preparations are useless against their most likely adversary: government. The lesson of the 20th century is that governments are highly effective genocide institutions with a death toll of approximately 203 million.

Government death toll by century:
  • 18th century: ~18 million
  • 19th century: ~ 45 million
  • 20th century: ~ 203 million

The 21st century is off to a slower start, but I expect the trend to continue. The number of displaced persons just hit a record high at 68.5 million. Things haven't even gotten bad yet from a geopolitical perspective. We will see record numbers murdered by the government in this century.

Preppers are watching doom porn and prepping for fictional scenarios. They are delusional to think their small arms stockpile will have any meaningful impact on their survival in the face of war or democide. My bugout bag consists of a hardware wallet with a year of living expenses. Bitcoin (and even more so Monero) are incredibly powerful tools for freedom. Far more than an AR-15 in your basement. If you haven't already, listen to this interview with Alex Gladstein of the human rights foundation on Why Bitcoin Matters for Freedom

Good link, thanks! IOU 1 sM+

Crossposted to WO thread.

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