[XMR] Monero Speculation

[infofront]

Chainalysis: "@monero is our top priority" - https://threader.app/thread/1091010633657659395
Bullish?

Don't know anymore, its dangerous to be right when the world is wrong.

“Obviously, we listed Zcash, We didn’t attempt to list Monero and we felt that Zcash was the privacy coin that we could get our regulators comfortable with.”

get this right, they did not even dared to attempt list Monero, because it could displease the regulators, if you don't think we are living in 1984 meets Brave New World, I don't know what to say.

but the bittersweet part is, Monero will still pump hard in a bullmarket just because everything else pumps and Monero is in a good number of exchanges already. The last big uncorrelated pump was when Alphabay added Monero, and that alone made it the most profitable coin of the year, I don't think we'll see that happening again.

I also don't think they will try to go after Monero simply because its too late at this point, as it was with Bitcoin in 2011, at end of the day its just another open-source project. And they already have a ''privacy'' coin where they want, the corporation behind Zcash will bend to the will of the USG. Green said so.

Zcash will be the trojan horse that eventually gets Monero onto the big exchanges. A privacy-lite coin is a stepping stone toward getting the regulators comfortable with real privacy coins.

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[Hueristic]

Chainalysis: "@monero is our top priority" - https://threader.app/thread/1091010633657659395
Bullish?

Don't know anymore, its dangerous to be right when the world is wrong.

“Obviously, we listed Zcash, We didn’t attempt to list Monero and we felt that Zcash was the privacy coin that we could get our regulators comfortable with.”

get this right, they did not even dared to attempt list Monero, because it could displease the regulators, if you don't think we are living in 1984 meets Brave New World, I don't know what to say.

but the bittersweet part is, Monero will still pump hard in a bullmarket just because everything else pumps and Monero is in a good number of exchanges already. The last big uncorrelated pump was when Alphabay added Monero, and that alone made it the most profitable coin of the year, I don't think we'll see that happening again.

I also don't think they will try to go after Monero simply because its too late at this point, as it was with Bitcoin in 2011, at end of the day its just another open-source project. And they already have a ''privacy'' coin where they want, the corporation behind Zcash will bend to the will of the USG. Green said so.

Zcash will be the trojan horse that eventually gets Monero onto the big exchanges. A privacy-lite coin is a stepping stone toward getting the regulators comfortable with real privacy coins.

In a few years when Grin gets it's legs under it it will be the red headed stepchild (in place of monero) and not allowed on regulated exchanges and all the fat cats will have their bags of monero's and then it will be a private store of value they will have accumulated enough of to allow it on exchanges.

[smooth]

Lets not forget that Java platform is inherently insecure unless something has changed in my time out of the field.

There are still issues but at least the modularity improvements mean that it is possible to not deploy the entire enormous runtime (with its entire attack surface) just for one application. So not ideal, but less bad than it used to be.

[KryptoKai]

It appears that cryptonote is unbreakable at the moment, so monero hodlers can breathe a sigh of relief. Also it will encourage those shady people to do their deals with XMR payments rather than bitcoin. Kidnappers are switching to it, so the rest will being to follow

[TACryptoo]

monero… something incredible but too expensive …

[generalizethis]

monero… something incredible but too expensive …

1 XMR only cost 1 XMR. 

[Hueristic]

Lets not forget that Java platform is inherently insecure unless something has changed in my time out of the field.

There are still issues but at least the modularity improvements mean that it is possible to not deploy the entire enormous runtime (with its entire attack surface) just for one application. So not ideal, but less bad than it used to be.

Good to know.

[owlcatz]

It appears that cryptonote is unbreakable at the moment, so monero hodlers can breathe a sigh of relief. Also it will encourage those shady people to do their deals with XMR payments rather than bitcoin. Kidnappers are switching to it, so the rest will being to follow

Lol... Fuck that. Most of us here would never condone anything like that shit. It's disgusting.

[cAPSLOCK]

It appears that cryptonote is unbreakable at the moment, so monero hodlers can breathe a sigh of relief. Also it will encourage those shady people to do their deals with XMR payments rather than bitcoin. Kidnappers are switching to it, so the rest will being to follow

Lol... Fuck that. Most of us here would never condone anything like that shit. It's disgusting.

That's just the thing... I think most of us here are for freedom, privacy and responsibility.

People do with money what people do with money.  It should be private unless the people want otherwise.

[bitebits]

Zcash will be the trojan horse that eventually gets Monero onto the big exchanges. A privacy-lite coin is a stepping stone toward getting the regulators comfortable with real privacy coins.

Interesting view point and speculation.

I cringe when hearing about optional privacy, it gives a false sense of security. Worse than no privacy at all.

[dEBRUYNE]

Monero added to Exodus Eden version 19.2.2

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/amcemx/youve_been_asking_we_finally_delivered_xmr_is/

[elrippos friend]

Monero added to Exodus Eden version 19.2.2

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/amcemx/youve_been_asking_we_finally_delivered_xmr_is/

Cooolomatico 

[Clearstream]

encryption is gradually maturing, and privacy coins will be welcomed by more and more people. XRM is the most effective privacy coin. its circular signature is the most reliable. it has a bright future.

[tokeweed]

encryption is gradually maturing, and privacy coins will be welcomed by more and more people. XRM is the most effective privacy coin. its circular signature is the most reliable. it has a bright future.

Yes...  Romero is def the most effective privacy coin in the space right now.  It's circular signature scheme makes law enforcement run around in circles in blind confusion at how circular it goes.

[Gaben.]

Any fellow credit card holders notice a major increase in getting new cards shipped out a little more often than normal this year? TBH most people probably wouldn't notice it because a lot of you only have a couple.

But anyways, many of my credit cards were replaced well before their expiration date througout 2018 and I'd like to share the speculation that there was likely mbillions of dollars committedfraudulently spent in credit card fraud and that's what fueled driving the price up to 20k and that's why they got pulled so fast out of gateways like coinbase and others.

[Hueristic]

Any fellow credit card holders notice a major increase in getting new cards shipped out a little more often than normal this year? TBH most people probably wouldn't notice it because a lot of you only have a couple.

But anyways, many of my credit cards were replaced well before their expiration date througout 2018 and I'd like to share the speculation that there was likely mbillions of dollars committedfraudulently spent in credit card fraud and that's what fueled driving the price up to 20k and that's why they got pulled so fast out of gateways like coinbase and others.

I think they were pushing out cards with smart chips.

[joroz]

Anyone notice that the conversation around Bitcoin's sustainability after block rewards expire is now fully underway?

The year started with the Bank of International Settlement (of all places) penning the most coherent Bitcoin critique of recent memory:
https://www.bis.org/publ/work765.pdf
tldr: https://www.technologyreview.com/the-download/612810/bitcoin-has-severe-limitations-because-of-the-way-it-keeps-itself-safe-from/

Now the conversation has shifted to Twitter. Notable Maximalists are seeing their bubble burst in front of their eyes.
https://twitter.com/peterktodd/status/1092262898598985729
https://twitter.com/StopAndDecrypt/status/1092279442360188929

Bitcoin's death knell will begin to toll well before 2140.

[Febo]

Anyone notice that the conversation around Bitcoin's sustainability after block rewards expire is now fully underway?

The year started with the Bank of International Settlement (of all places) penning the most coherent Bitcoin critique of recent memory:
https://www.bis.org/publ/work765.pdf
tldr: https://www.technologyreview.com/the-download/612810/bitcoin-has-severe-limitations-because-of-the-way-it-keeps-itself-safe-from/

Now the conversation has shifted to Twitter. Notable Maximalists are seeing their bubble burst in front of their eyes.
https://twitter.com/peterktodd/status/1092262898598985729
https://twitter.com/StopAndDecrypt/status/1092279442360188929

Bitcoin's death knell will begin to toll well before 2140.

Bitcoin and its copies will change emission. They will not just doe because of not secure network.  Good thing is that Monero have this already solved.

[Gaben.]

Any fellow credit card holders notice a major increase in getting new cards shipped out a little more often than normal this year? TBH most people probably wouldn't notice it because a lot of you only have a couple.

But anyways, many of my credit cards were replaced well before their expiration date througout 2018 and I'd like to share the speculation that there was likely mbillions of dollars committedfraudulently spent in credit card fraud and that's what fueled driving the price up to 20k and that's why they got pulled so fast out of gateways like coinbase and others.

I think they were pushing out cards with smart chips.

Smarter chips? Anyone I've been talking to, which isn't too much, already had updated cards with chips.

Just saying, I mean sure it could just be security being security .. but I'd suppose it's not much of a leap to connect the 'Equifax biggest breach in history' followed some time later with 'many peoples cards are getting replaced before the scheduled due date and was verbally notified over the phone by bank employee of massively compromised' and 'cryptocurrency stops taking credit cards after biggest runup in history' dots.

[Hueristic]

Anyone notice that the conversation around Bitcoin's sustainability after block rewards expire is now fully underway?

The year started with the Bank of International Settlement (of all places) penning the most coherent Bitcoin critique of recent memory:
https://www.bis.org/publ/work765.pdf
tldr: https://www.technologyreview.com/the-download/612810/bitcoin-has-severe-limitations-because-of-the-way-it-keeps-itself-safe-from/

Now the conversation has shifted to Twitter. Notable Maximalists are seeing their bubble burst in front of their eyes.
https://twitter.com/peterktodd/status/1092262898598985729
https://twitter.com/StopAndDecrypt/status/1092279442360188929

Bitcoin's death knell will begin to toll well before 2140.

https://youtu.be/SVC0VwQwrW0?t=1030