kano (OP)
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December 09, 2016, 10:00:43 PM |
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No, 10 days isn't enough to get anything statistically valid.
That's actually the biggest problem in all this, the amount of data required to see 'partial' problems is very large.
Edit: also there's the issue of looking only at luck.
Withholding won't stop the current valid miners finding blocks.
We of course expect to see runs of both good and bad luck.
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hhumaidan
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December 09, 2016, 10:09:47 PM |
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Kano, do as you see fit for the benefit of the pool.
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firetreeactual
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December 09, 2016, 10:13:14 PM |
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No, 10 days isn't enough to get anything statistically valid.
That's actually the biggest problem in all this, the amount of data required to see 'partial' problems is very large.
Edit: also there's the issue of looking only at luck.
Withholding won't stop the current valid miners finding blocks.
We of course expect to see runs of both good and bad luck.
Well...FWIW...if one sees a whole lotta correlation, the only way to test for actual causation is controlled data sets. Go for it. EDIT: Of course, that coming from one who doesn't rent hash...  |
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December 09, 2016, 10:14:37 PM |
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No, 10 days isn't enough to get anything statistically valid.
That's actually the biggest problem in all this, the amount of data required to see 'partial' problems is very large.
Edit: also there's the issue of looking only at luck.
Withholding won't stop the current valid miners finding blocks.
We of course expect to see runs of both good and bad luck.
Whats a good time length for a rentals ban to get decent stats? 30 days? 60days? I think its worth a try personally. The people using the rentals can always use them on another pool. A smaller one where the payout would be larger perhaps? |
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December 09, 2016, 10:25:04 PM |
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Whats a good time length for a rentals ban to get decent stats? 30 days? 60days?
It's not a time period, it's total hashes that matter. If you rent 10PH it wouldn't take very long to get a decent sample... |
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kano (OP)
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December 09, 2016, 10:37:53 PM |
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Block! by dance191 )
woohoo ! Why is our block size so small 188k ? I guess there were less txns available (less than) 6s after the previous block. I'm running -ck's recent changes that should always fill the block if possible (though it's now twice as long to do block changes with 0.13.0) Oh, yeah also, that restart about 11 hours ago was about pointing ckpool at (what is now) a faster bitcoind. So it didn't pick up the payout transactions. Sorry about that - they'll be in the next block. |
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December 09, 2016, 10:56:32 PM |
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Edit:
The run of bad luck in July/August coincidentally stopped not long after I banned an IP address from *Hash.
I seem to be seeing more *Hash now coming in via MRR (which is just stupid ...)
Maybe I need to ban all rental mining instead so we can at least get an idea if any of the above is caused by something else ...
If you doubt, do it  |
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usukan
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December 09, 2016, 10:57:58 PM |
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a question - maybe I'm missing something again
When this last block was found
1638 442696 dance191.S7073 12.62283379 2016‑12‑09 19:34:49
these 2 blocks had matured
1637 442364 16hNunxPKj42L1RihiX2… 13.50956780 2016‑12‑07 16:27:32
1636 442267 luckyant.2x76 12.75761690 2016‑12‑07 01:55:06
so these should have been paid out? when we hit 1638.
Last block paid was
1635 442256 PolishBatBoy_ants7_05 13.23146873 2016‑12‑07 00:30:56
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kano (OP)
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December 09, 2016, 11:06:11 PM |
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a question - maybe I'm missing something again
When this last block was found
1638 442696 dance191.S7073 12.62283379 2016‑12‑09 19:34:49
these 2 blocks had matured
1637 442364 16hNunxPKj42L1RihiX2… 13.50956780 2016‑12‑07 16:27:32
1636 442267 luckyant.2x76 12.75761690 2016‑12‑07 01:55:06
so these should have been paid out? when we hit 1638.
Last block paid was
1635 442256 PolishBatBoy_ants7_05 13.23146873 2016‑12‑07 00:30:56
Yeah I said that in the previous post |
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hhumaidan
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December 09, 2016, 11:07:45 PM |
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CK and Kano. Any further tricks for the A7?  |
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usukan
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December 09, 2016, 11:17:10 PM |
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a question - maybe I'm missing something again
When this last block was found
1638 442696 dance191.S7073 12.62283379 2016‑12‑09 19:34:49
these 2 blocks had matured
1637 442364 16hNunxPKj42L1RihiX2… 13.50956780 2016‑12‑07 16:27:32
1636 442267 luckyant.2x76 12.75761690 2016‑12‑07 01:55:06
so these should have been paid out? when we hit 1638.
Last block paid was
1635 442256 PolishBatBoy_ants7_05 13.23146873 2016‑12‑07 00:30:56
Yeah I said that in the previous post OK thanks |
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kano (OP)
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December 10, 2016, 12:13:44 AM |
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CK and Kano. Any further tricks for the A7? It's summer here so I wont be trying to do anything but keep it stable. |
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December 10, 2016, 01:43:51 AM |
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Block by wetsuit! Welcome to the Acclaim Board with your 1st Kano block! Now we're talking!  |
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kano (OP)
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December 10, 2016, 01:45:14 AM |
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... and those 2 missing payouts  |
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December 10, 2016, 02:27:13 AM |
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... and those 2 missing payouts Yea baby! Thanks for posting about that earlier...I was just starting to scratch may head about it when you did. Transparency is the name of the game with this pool! I have my 2nd A7 online now and I've got to say, I really like the controller interface. One of my Controllers still has not arrived yet but I really like having the 2 A7's in daisy-chain also. I like the way the CGMiner Status shows each A7 separately in the Avalon Devices Status at the bottom. And I like that the two together are humming along at a 13.5TH/s clip here on the Kano pool! |
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December 10, 2016, 07:21:31 AM |
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Block by wetsuit! Welcome to the Acclaim Board with your 1st Kano block! Now we're talking! woo my first! |
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hhumaidan
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December 10, 2016, 09:15:02 AM |
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Block by Prosperity!
We partying!
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kano (OP)
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December 10, 2016, 10:15:55 AM |
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... and having got another 180k block ...
-ck suggested I should check the block size setting on the bitcoind I switched over to ... ok ooooops yep I didn't check that when I switched it over.
I had that one at 188888 since it wasn't actually mining before, it was a backup in case the main one failed
Now fixed!
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December 10, 2016, 02:17:54 PM |
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... and having got another 180k block ...
-ck suggested I should check the block size setting on the bitcoind I switched over to ... ok ooooops yep I didn't check that when I switched it over.
I had that one at 188888 since it wasn't actually mining before, it was a backup in case the main one failed
Now fixed!
Does setting BitcoinD to only mine bigger blocks affect the number of blocks we find ? Sorry if it's a silly question |
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December 10, 2016, 02:29:52 PM |
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I have my 2nd A7 online now and I've got to say, I really like the controller interface. One of my Controllers still has not arrived yet but I really like having the 2 A7's in daisy-chain also. I like the way the CGMiner Status shows each A7 separately in the Avalon Devices Status at the bottom. And I like that the two together are humming along at a 13.5TH/s clip here on the Kano pool! Can you elaborate on whether you expect to have improved performance with each A7 on a separate controller? Obviously it would provide some relief if a controller would go out, but other than that would it improve performance? I have two A7's on ckpool with one controller and am getting well over 12th in 18 degree C ambient room after about 18h. jfb |
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