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[clgrissom3]

I'm sorry guys, the fact that nobody could calculate a simple reward calculation that a miner would get threw a red flag and people were just shut and up and mine and sh*t lol. And now that I see the results, it's either the system is broke or it's a pool that aims to benefit few big miners!

It's apparent that you have issues, in the multiple interpretations of the phrase.

Why not post your rewards table and your shifts so as to figure out the crux of your woes?  If you have some misunderstanding about how rewards are computed or even a bad board, wouldn't you want to know before enduring the same on another pool?

So that rifleman74 doesn't have to say it - if you don't actually want to take the time to understand the mathematical constructs the pool is built upon, then maybe this pool isn't for you.

One thing is for sure...hopping into and out of a 5Nd pool like that is a sure fire way to not get a full reward.

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[rifleman74]

Jeez, Binance got 2 rewards from Kano website which are "0.00033964", "0.00039784" lol. My "so-called 5Nd" was ramping down from 9th, and was at 8.6 when they blocks were found. Each were registered at 1.55THs, 1.37THs. So, it took 3 weeks to get to 9Th, (not full 13.5!) but about a week to get down to nothing from there.

I'm sorry guys, the fact that nobody could calculate a simple reward calculation that a miner would get threw a red flag and people were just shut and up and mine and sh*t lol. And now that I see the results, it's either the system is broke or it's a pool that aims to benefit few big miners!

I really hope this doesn't get deleted, small time miners should know about the reality before they jump.

And one last time, don't tell me "if you were fully ramped" shit when you reply to this.

Yep, your ramp down was quicker as the pool hash rate grew.  It works both ways. 

[rifleman74]

I'm sorry guys, the fact that nobody could calculate a simple reward calculation that a miner would get threw a red flag and people were just shut and up and mine and sh*t lol. And now that I see the results, it's either the system is broke or it's a pool that aims to benefit few big miners!

It's apparent that you have issues, in the multiple interpretations of the phrase.

Why not post your rewards table and your shifts so as to figure out the crux of your woes?  If you have some misunderstanding about how rewards are computed or even a bad board, wouldn't you want to know before enduring the same on another pool?

So that rifleman74 doesn't have to say it - if you don't actually want to take the time to understand the mathematical constructs the pool is built upon, then maybe this pool isn't for you.

One thing is for sure...hopping into and out of a 5Nd pool like that is a sure fire way to not get a full reward.

What he said.  MINE ON WITH KANO-SAN! BTC BTC BTC BTC BTC BTC BTC BTC

[akadamson]

It's *Friday* (ok, at least in the US it is)... isn't there supposed to be some kind of party going on?

Someone told me to come here for a party!!!!  

[rifleman74]

It's *Friday* (ok, at least in the US it is)... isn't there supposed to be some kind of party going on?

Someone told me to come here for a party!!!!  

PAAAAAAAARTY!
PARTY
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PARTY
PARTY

[perfectplus174]

Changing the 'ramp' is not how PPLNS works, nor would it be appreciated by those already at the 5Nd.  If you want less 'ramp' time, increase the pool's hashrate by mining here!  

You really missed the point and will be hoping to get 2 blocks in a month soon.. so sure, even if you solo mine 'the math works out' if you can live 7000 years or whatever

Fake news! Sad!

Really??

EDIT: In all seriousness, I don't have any animosity toward you. I appreciate differing opinions, and I wish us all success in mining--here of wherever you prefer. Best of luck!

He's not a miner. I believe he is just going around trashing mining now. He may have been a miner at some point, but his name alone leads me to believe he prefers (delegated)PoS to PoW.

He's more than welcome to comment as well, of course.

Your more than welcome to go back and search on my old account DPoS instead of fabricating

And even in this thread go back to my early posts a month or so ago to see how my main points of a small pool should still stay above 20 expected blocks a month so luck doesn't bite you in the ass...  but even Kano ignores it and acts like the math stays the same all the way down to one USB miner and 'everything works out'

what a bunch of douches

I have no desire or need to search your "old account".

I invited you to respond because I made an assumption based on what you post AND your name to which you only pointed to your "old account" and still have not commented on whether or not you CURRENTLY mine. So did I get the name or assumptions wrong?

I may be a douche, but at least this place will be smelling fresher once the stench is flushed out.

[BSGMiner]

Jeez, Binance got 2 rewards from Kano website which are "0.00033964", "0.00039784" lol. My "so-called 5Nd" was ramping down from 9th, and was at 8.6 when they blocks were found. Each were registered at 1.55THs, 1.37THs. So, it took 3 weeks to get to 9Th, (not full 13.5!) but about a week to get down to nothing from there.

I'm sorry guys, the fact that nobody could calculate a simple reward calculation that a miner would get threw a red flag and people were just shut and up and mine and sh*t lol. And now that I see the results, it's either the system is broke or it's a pool that aims to benefit few big miners!

Stay tuned and/or check back as I will be running all the numbers for my recent rewards, and I'll provide my findings here since there were some things I have learned during the ramp up, pool changing size, etc. that I would like to share.

[BTfd2e93]

just a quick poll folks ...

how many of you think we will hit at least 12 blocks a month, in the medium term?

I'd be curious to do a survey of our pool's members on your guesses?

[2tights]

just a quick poll folks ...

how many of you think we will hit at least 12 blocks a month, in the medium term?

I'd be curious to do a survey of our pool's members on your guesses?

Luck. Think long term.

[Thrash]

just a quick poll folks ...

how many of you think we will hit at least 12 blocks a month, in the medium term?

I'd be curious to do a survey of our pool's members on your guesses?

Currently 12 blocks in the next 30 days would put us over 100% luck as we should come in around 10.5 blocks in that time frame. Obviously the # of blocks expected changes as the hash rate changes so the numbers here are irrelevant as soon as I type them. With that said, we will get what we get. 12 to 15 blocks would not surprise me nor would 8.

There will be variance no matter where you mine. We have no control over that and guessing is just that, guessing.

I think we all need to look at all the reasons to mine. Most are mining to make money. We should also mine to support the network and keep it healthy. The large mining pools provide a somewhat consistent payout but take a bigger piece of the pie than t he smaller pools like Kano. The large pools do not help keep the hashing power distributed and the network secure. We need miners distributed across the network more evenly to support the network. This Bitcoin world is managed by miner decisions and with the recent influx we have a whole lot of people who do not understand that. My hope is that the mining world would smarten up a bit and that we do not self destruct.

Any miner that wants to continue mining into the future should be mining on a pool that has less than 10% of the network hash. At least it would be a good start.

Mine on.

[heartlandmining]

how many of you think we will hit at least 12 blocks a month, in the medium term?

Hitting blocks is a necessity, but not to be viewed as the sole component governing a successful mining operation.  BTC price, difficulty, power costs, and even the international political climate are all significant components to the bottom line.  Some of these are predictable - even "calculatable" - until they're not.

[orangelemon]

how many of you think we will hit at least 12 blocks a month, in the medium term?

Hitting blocks is a necessity, but not to be viewed as the sole component governing a successful mining operation.  BTC price, difficulty, power costs, and even the international political climate are all significant components to the bottom line.  Some of these are predictable - even "calculatable" - until they're not.

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So far we're thrashing our hashrate on kano.is >> Kano is making BTC from our hashrate and we are waiting for blocks to crack 

[rifleman74]

just a quick poll folks ...

how many of you think we will hit at least 12 blocks a month, in the medium term?

I'd be curious to do a survey of our pool's members on your guesses?

Currently 12 blocks in the next 30 days would put us over 100% luck as we should come in around 10.5 blocks in that time frame. Obviously the # of blocks expected changes as the hash rate changes so the numbers here are irrelevant as soon as I type them. With that said, we will get what we get. 12 to 15 blocks would not surprise me nor would 8.

There will be variance no matter where you mine. We have no control over that and guessing is just that, guessing.

I think we all need to look at all the reasons to mine. Most are mining to make money. We should also mine to support the network and keep it healthy. The large mining pools provide a somewhat consistent payout but take a bigger piece of the pie than t he smaller pools like Kano. The large pools do not help keep the hashing power distributed and the network secure. We need miners distributed across the network more evenly to support the network. This Bitcoin world is managed by miner decisions and with the recent influx we have a whole lot of people who do not understand that. My hope is that the mining world would smarten up a bit and that we do not self destruct.

Any miner that wants to continue mining into the future should be mining on a pool that has less than 10% of the network hash. At least it would be a good start.

Mine on.

What he said.   MINE ON WITH KANO-SAN!   Heard some rumors that a big boy or two will be moving back here in the next few weeks. 

[clgrissom3]

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So far we're thrashing our hashrate on kano.is >> Kano is making BTC from our hashrate and we are waiting for blocks to crack 

What you just said doesn't make any sense unless I misunderstand.  Kano doesn't make anything on our hashrate...he only makes BTC when we hit a block and then it's the 0.9% pool fee.

[rifleman74]

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So far we're thrashing our hashrate on kano.is >> Kano is making BTC from our hashrate and we are waiting for blocks to crack 

What you just said doesn't make any sense unless I misunderstand.  Kano doesn't make anything on our hashrate...he only makes BTC when we hit a block and then it's the 0.9% pool fee.

I think he's just going on the .9% fee, as that is all that kano makes besides his own miners. 

[minergain.com]

I think he's just going on the .9% fee, as that is all that kano makes besides his own miners. 

And I have heard directly from Kano that he does not run his miners unless he needs his house warmed up.  All of my discussions with him demonstrates that his primary mission for this site is the heath and future of bitcoin.  And yes, he probably does all right with the fees too - although having close to a dozen servers around the world is also not free.

[lok8nusa]

how many of you think we will hit at least 12 blocks a month, in the medium term?

Hitting blocks is a necessity, but not to be viewed as the sole component governing a successful mining operation.  BTC price, difficulty, power costs, and even the international political climate are all significant components to the bottom line.  Some of these are predictable - even "calculatable" - until they're not.

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So far we're thrashing our hashrate on kano.is >> Kano is making BTC from our hashrate and we are waiting for blocks to crack 

I would REALLY like to know how that works.

From what I see, the way this pool is constructed, the operator does make ANYTHING unless the pool hits a block - and ONLY then. Please demonstrate if it is otherwise.


MINE ON!

[Pecker]

Help with fan speed on Antminer S9

I have 4 S9's that run smooth and you hardly ever hear the fans on any of them speed up or slow down.. (some with auot freq, some without)

I have another used S9 miner I am installing, everything is great, except the fan speeds up and slows down every 15 to 20 seconds, slow, fast, slow, fast..

Any thoughts or ideas on why this is happening and what I can do?

There was a post on bitcoin forum about editing the fan speed thru HTML and I tried that...set the fan speed to 70% (according to the kernel) and it is still doing it...

Really, really annoying...  There has to be a workaround somehow...  How can some do it and some not?

Looking for any thoughts or ideas that might help...

Thank You!

Mine On Dude!!

Try to change the controller for a new one, that should solve it.  

Ok so I got a new controller board for S9 and installed it on the machine...

The old controller board would hash for about 15 minutes and then quit hashing..It was the same S9 with the fan racing up and down about every 10 to 15 seconds.  SO I unplugged it until the new controller board go there.

As I mentioned none of my other S9 miners do anything like this...

So with the new controller board it is mining but the fans are still revvingn up and down every 10 to 15 seconds.  And I mean a lot...very noticeable and noisy.

see the fan speeds below... all over the place... see the image (if it shows up) I hope.

Also what s9 parts would you recommend having on hand at all times (extra controller boards and fans)??

Any help would be appreciated and Thank You!  These miners are frustrating at times...

Would it help to update new firmware.  Is the front (exhaust fan) always the white connector on the farthest outside of the miner? 


https://imgur.com/a/F5lkO

[perfectplus174]

Help with fan speed on Antminer S9

I have 4 S9's that run smooth and you hardly ever hear the fans on any of them speed up or slow down.. (some with auot freq, some without)

I have another used S9 miner I am installing, everything is great, except the fan speeds up and slows down every 15 to 20 seconds, slow, fast, slow, fast..

Any thoughts or ideas on why this is happening and what I can do?

There was a post on bitcoin forum about editing the fan speed thru HTML and I tried that...set the fan speed to 70% (according to the kernel) and it is still doing it...

Really, really annoying...  There has to be a workaround somehow...  How can some do it and some not?

Looking for any thoughts or ideas that might help...

Thank You!

Mine On Dude!!

Try to change the controller for a new one, that should solve it.  

Ok so I got a new controller board for S9 and installed it on the machine...

The old controller board would hash for about 15 minutes and then quit hashing..It was the same S9 with the fan racing up and down about every 10 to 15 seconds.  SO I unplugged it until the new controller board go there.

As I mentioned none of my other S9 miners do anything like this...

So with the new controller board it is mining but the fans are still revvingn up and down every 10 to 15 seconds.  And I mean a lot...very noticeable and noisy.

see the fan speeds below... all over the place... see the image (if it shows up) I hope.

Also what s9 parts would you recommend having on hand at all times (extra controller boards and fans)??

Any help would be appreciated and Thank You!  These miners are frustrating at times...

Would it help to update new firmware.  Is the front (exhaust fan) always the white connector on the farthest outside of the miner? 

This is hardly advice, but if it were mine, I would first update the firmware ---> swap fans ---> then change controller. What does your worker graph look like? Are you dropping any hash at all or is it isolated to the fan? That 30K rpm reading is obviously an error in which I personally would try those steps in that order. I'm still trying to figure these things out myself, though I've had success in swapping fans with funky readings.

[A.Delaney]

Help with fan speed on Antminer S9

I have 4 S9's that run smooth and you hardly ever hear the fans on any of them speed up or slow down.. (some with auot freq, some without)

I have another used S9 miner I am installing, everything is great, except the fan speeds up and slows down every 15 to 20 seconds, slow, fast, slow, fast..

Any thoughts or ideas on why this is happening and what I can do?

There was a post on bitcoin forum about editing the fan speed thru HTML and I tried that...set the fan speed to 70% (according to the kernel) and it is still doing it...

Really, really annoying...  There has to be a workaround somehow...  How can some do it and some not?

Looking for any thoughts or ideas that might help...

Thank You!

Mine On Dude!!

Try to change the controller for a new one, that should solve it.  

Ok so I got a new controller board for S9 and installed it on the machine...

The old controller board would hash for about 15 minutes and then quit hashing..It was the same S9 with the fan racing up and down about every 10 to 15 seconds.  SO I unplugged it until the new controller board go there.

As I mentioned none of my other S9 miners do anything like this...

So with the new controller board it is mining but the fans are still revvingn up and down every 10 to 15 seconds.  And I mean a lot...very noticeable and noisy.

see the fan speeds below... all over the place... see the image (if it shows up) I hope.

Also what s9 parts would you recommend having on hand at all times (extra controller boards and fans)??

Any help would be appreciated and Thank You!  These miners are frustrating at times...

Would it help to update new firmware.  Is the front (exhaust fan) always the white connector on the farthest outside of the miner? 

The fan is going from 0 to 30k? The reving  up and down is normal for some batches. I have two Jan batches that do it. However they go from 5 to 6k normally. Maybe the fan is bad and it’s not reading the rpm right.