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May 09, 2015, 10:20:05 AM
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Ohh it seems great improvement, from my side i 'll wait new release. Grin .


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May 09, 2015, 12:28:06 PM
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Miners don't care about coins

That's true since you don't need anything other than pointing your hardware at a multipool but if miners did care they would earn much, much more money than they currently do.

This used to be true, I'm not so sure about anymore. There is no aggregate place to go to to learn about new coins and talk about them. Bitcointalk is huge and easy to lose random shit in it unless you spend tons of time searching through it to find new coins that are promising. There used to be big pool sites, like suchpool and dedicatedpool where you could essentially find big promising coins that are 'hyped' and mine them. Now they've been reduced to almost nothing or simply closed.

The day and age of big mining seems to pretty much be over unless BTC increases in a couple hundred. PoS has also helped give miners the final push out the door.

That being said 'holding' on coins has done nothing except lose me money. Everytime a coin starts to drop, occasionally it'll get a bounce, but any major dump is usually the end for it as confidence is lost and people move on to 'more promising' coins. I think I only had one coin where holding actually was beneficial, Gorillacoin.

This is generally why things have broken down into multipools and cloudmining aggregates. Becaues you essentially have two jobs here. Finding coins that are profitable to mine and providing a mining service. Both take a decent chunk of time. If you're already spending time finding niche coins to mine, you don't need hardware as you can purchase hashrate on something like Nicehash and since you can purchase on Nicehash, how much money you're losing by not mining isn't applicable as there is a direct correlation to the amount of good coins that are currently being mined. You're essentially not gaining anything extra by mining yourself unless mining power isn't available (like NIST5 for instance).

You could make a full time job JUST out of watching the market, especially if you're holding a few different coins, let alone finding new ones. I personally have a lot invested in one small coin and that itself still takes a decent chunk of time.

once again ...

i personally can vouch for that ...

its why in a few weeks im personally taking a full time interest in it ...

#crysx

You'll need it. Fending for scraps and riding on the coat tails of a roller coaster each and every day. I guess if you live in a third world country or one where wages aren't very high, mining is still promising compared to working for Foxcon or Apple, but not in the US. You need more then pennies to make something worth your time.

Mining itself isn't where the money is, the money is in finding coins and purchasing hashpower, and even more so in just playing the market.

there are quite a few points which you have made that makes sense in the minds of people that have no experience nor push to get the experience ...

then again - you make sense on a few points also - that require one to have some sort of experience to comment by ...

mining itself is not a 'big deal' any more - but who said that one needs to mine to make money? ...

besides - where the hell do you think places like nicehash / westhash or mintsy GET 'their' hashpower from? ...

leasing hashpower WHILE one mines WHILE one trades WHILE looks for ( and accrues promising ) coins makes a great deal of sense to me ...

apart from the coin / money side - who on earth says we do it for the coin or money? ...

its knowledge that i thirst for ... knowledge that makes it worth every cent - every coin - every sweat and tear ...

knowledge - and knowledge only ...

i may be one of those people that never becomes famous in any sense ( nor would i want to be ) ... but i can assure you that when the cards are down or up - people like myself will be the ones pulling the strings ... in the background ...

it seems that you are not seeing one very valuable factor here when you state that i 'need' to be able to do this full time ... i can assure you quite emphatically that i dont ...

this fact is as simple as abc - yet you dont see it ... this fact is as exposed and protruding as a dogs proverbials' - yet you dont seem to see it ...

this fact is i dont NEED to do this full time because i WANT to do this full time because i can AFFORD to do it full time because of the KNOWLEDGE that has been accrued over the time that i have been doing this and the EXPERIENCE it has given me ...

i am not the only one in this league - and there are many others in a league of their own ... those that are much more capable of making things happen in the market than you can give credit to ...

essentially - its about what YOU as a person is interested in ...

for me and mine - its about the understanding and application of the knowledge that you accrue - even at the cost of monetary gains ...

knowledge is power - knowledge is king ...

needing 'more then pennies to make something worth your time' ? ...

i guess its all about how valuable you perceive your time to be - and i dont mean on a simple monetary value ...

im in australia - far from a third world country ... yet i choose to make this a full time commitment for the sake of education - and the pursuit of something more than just a couple of dollars for my mining effort ...

as ive always said - in anything you do ... never go into something that you cant afford to lose ... and always have fun - win OR lose ...

to each their own i guess ...

#crysx

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May 09, 2015, 12:37:15 PM
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sp ...

we are half way through the upgrade of the farm ...

tomorrow we should have this fully functional - and powering on with the latest that your fork has to offer ...

it seems that the latest has improvements to some algos - not so much for others ...

next week will be the testing phase for most of the algos that we can test when the new donation links get up and running ...

would be real nice to see some more advancements soon ...

tanx again mate ...

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May 09, 2015, 01:05:02 PM
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Thanks for the beers guys.

Today I have submitted small speedups in different algos.

+10Khash in lyra2 on the 750ti
tiny quark, x11 etc speedups.

Will build release 50

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May 09, 2015, 01:11:42 PM
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Thanks for the beers guys.

Today I have submitted small speedups in different algos.

+10Khash in lyra2 on the 750ti
tiny quark, x11 etc speedups.

Will build release 50

awesome ...

tomorrow will have to be the time we rebuild it here ... too late now ...

have a great day - and lots more beers to come Wink ...

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May 09, 2015, 01:25:33 PM
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-Blakecoin 130% faster
-Fixed high reject rates and improved performance lyra2
-Corrected the stats with multiple gpu-threads -g x
-Added a 'disable extranounce subscription' swith '-e'
-Tiny speedups in most algos.


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I am now compiling win64 sse_sm50, avx_sm50, sse_sm52 and avx_sm52 of latest build as a separate files. If someone need it - PM me.
PS. sse2 works on all processors. avx only works on fresh processors.

                                 
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May 09, 2015, 03:51:14 PM
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I am now compiling win64 sse_sm50, avx_sm50, sse_sm52 and avx_sm52 of latest build as a separate files. If someone need it - PM me.
PS. sse2 works on all processors. avx only works on fresh processors.
If you are using MSVS then sse options are ignored in 64bit mode.
Moreover all cpu optimizations are useless since all the work is done on gpu.
+ It is already proven that 64 bit cuda mining software is little bit slower then 32 bit ...
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May 09, 2015, 03:52:55 PM
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I have optimized spreadcoin
+20KHASH on the 750ti (1.35%faster) than version 7.
+25KHASH on the 960
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Will send out version 8 with sourcecode to the donators. The private spreadcoin miner is around 13% faster than the open source version (750ti)


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May 09, 2015, 04:00:36 PM
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I am now compiling win64 sse_sm50, avx_sm50, sse_sm52 and avx_sm52 of latest build as a separate files. If someone need it - PM me.
PS. sse2 works on all processors. avx only works on fresh processors.
If you are using MSVS then sse options are ignored in 64bit mode.
Moreover all cpu optimizations are useless since all the work is done on gpu.
+ It is already proven that 64 bit cuda mining software is little bit slower then 32 bit ...
he, if selected avx in compiling - exe file dosnt even start - i tested on old pc in my office... whith sse ccminer work nice on my core2 pc!

                                 
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he, if selected avx in compiling - exe file dosnt even start - i tested on old pc in my office... whith sse ccminer work nice on my core2 pc!
avx option is applied in 64bit mode and if your cpu doesn't support it then ...
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May 09, 2015, 04:27:49 PM
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1.5.50(sp-MOD) is available here: (9-may-2015)
https://github.com/sp-hash/ccminer/releases/tag/1.5.50

Thanks SP, I just compiled the released version and ran quark with it on my 3*750Ti linux rig (Gigabyte, stock clocks). Here's what I get (showing total hashrate), ignoring the first 5 minutes where the miner 'ramps up':

With no options (./ccminer -a quark -o stratum+tcp://stratum.nicehash.com:3345 -u xxxxx -p x): 17042-170049kH/s
With -g 5 option: 16630-16753kH/s
With -i 22 option: 17040-17049kH/s
With -g 5 -i 22: 16616-16783kH/s

I get less than 5% 'job not found' reject errors, across the board.

Could you elaborate on the -g 5 -i 22 options you mentioned before? For me, -g hurts the performance, -i doesn't change anything and I'm nowhere near your figures...
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Could you elaborate on the -g 5 -i 22 options you mentioned before? For me, -g hurts the performance, -i doesn't change anything and I'm nowhere near your figures...


-g hurts performance almost for everyone except sp_ Cheesy
-i 22 is less aggressive then default intensity. I think it was used by sp_ in -g mode to lower memory requirements.
I tried to increase -i in single threaded mode but it doesn't benefit comparing to default ...

In default mode #49 is better then #50 in quark for me (gtx750).
For other algos #50 is the best.
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May 09, 2015, 04:36:02 PM
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Try to run in benchmarkmode

ccminer -a quark -g 5 -i 21.8 --benchmark

-g 5 worked good with 2 cards in the rig but I got to many rejects on the pool.

then you can try to solomine a coin, and see what rates you get.

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May 09, 2015, 04:46:17 PM
Last edit: May 09, 2015, 04:59:26 PM by sp_
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-g hurts performance almost for everyone except sp_ Cheesy

Still needs some more work.
In version 50 I have disabled the extranonce for multiple -g. I have also corrected the outputs to show a more realistic hashrates. (build 49 was way off)

ccminer now also support both the d and the g parameter like: -d 1 -g 3 But the d parameter must come before the G in the commandline.


But without extranonce on the pool reconnects alot and this forces the miner to restart the work and a drop in hashrates.
Test the hashrates in the benchmark mode first. If higher solomine with -g and don't use the parameter on the multipools yet.

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May 09, 2015, 04:59:51 PM
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-Blakecoin 130% faster
-Fixed high reject rates and improved performance lyra2
-Corrected the stats with multiple gpu-threads -g x
-Added a 'disable extranounce subscription' swith '-e'
-Tiny speedups in most algos.


1.5.50(sp-MOD) is available here: (9-may-2015)

https://github.com/sp-hash/ccminer/releases/tag/1.5.50

The sourcecode is available here:

https://github.com/sp-hash/ccminer

Looks good dude. Any chance of adding support for Cryptonote? Monero is still doing quite well and since TVIS there hasn't been a new or updated miner.


Big run on sentence.

Bro don't pretend you're the only one with experience, such a haughty pretense is liable to get you in a lot of trouble when stuff caves in around you because you think other people who disagree with you simply are 'inexperienced' and you throw out such opinions based on it.

Part of my point was you DON'T need to mine to make money. As I said, the money is in purchasing hashing power now and more so simply in playing markets without purchasing hardware to make a ROI on. The majority of the risk is in purchasing hardware, since no matter what you'll always have to play bitch to the market.

Not a lot of logic in what you're saying and a lot to do with philosophy. Philosophy is more opinion then fact and even if it loosely plays into logic, it doesn't always work. Hence why your entire rebuttal to what I said is 'I have knowledge, you don't, let me lecture you on it'. Just because you have a big financial backer doesn't mean you're correct in what you do or even right. For someone who 'values' knowledge so much you do seem to enjoy throwing out other peoples experience and opinions in favor of your own.

I know you're ESL, but figure out paragraphs and cohesive thought structure please. And no you don't live in Aussie. It's pretty easy to tell you're ESL, unless you're a aussie immigrant. Based on your connotation, the way you present yourself, and your philosophy I'd say you're middle eastern or chinese. Specifically when you say something like this "this fact is as exposed and protruding as a dogs proverbials'", no one who speaks english as a primary language would say something like that and it doesn't have a apparent direct translation.

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May 09, 2015, 05:03:05 PM
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looks like blake gets a
20-30MHASH boost with -g 3 on the 750ti
100MHASH boost with -g 3 on the 970

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May 09, 2015, 08:09:55 PM
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Is there optimization using g parameter on QUBIT with r.50
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May 09, 2015, 08:49:26 PM
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Try to run in benchmarkmode

ccminer -a quark -g 5 -i 21.8 --benchmark

-g 5 worked good with 2 cards in the rig but I got to many rejects on the pool.

then you can try to solomine a coin, and see what rates you get.

I wouldn't rely on --benchmark at all. It always had weird issues even back in cudaminer and it almost always shows figures far from actual mining numbers. I always just solomine to a local wallet to test stuff to cut out the variance associated with vardiff and connectivity.

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May 09, 2015, 10:09:24 PM
Last edit: May 09, 2015, 10:29:23 PM by CapnBDL
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Ok....must be having a brain fart today. Setting up a .bat file for running nicehash. Solo mining runs fine for x11, but I'm having trouble with quark. Comes up telling me workio thread terminating. Would somebody else that mines on nicehash mind showing me a sample of a Windows .bat.

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edit; Hmmm....I can't try GPU mining with a 750Ti 2G? Really...what am I doing wrong today? Today is almost over and I want a do-over!
   OHH...duh! ccminer doesn't do scrypt. sheesh....I think I need some beers!!

edit; Anybody ever get a stable OC for the 750Ti above 1400Mhz? If so, clue me in. Best I have is 1400MHz GPU /w 5300 MHz Mem.

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