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April 08, 2015, 08:59:19 AM
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sp  how much does electricity cost there?

5-7 thb pr Kw

Around 0.15$

and that is just standard? ... not off peak? ...

wow ... that is a crap load less than what we are paying here in adelaide australia ...

we are getting ripped off BIG ...

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April 08, 2015, 09:06:04 AM
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I have studied the opencl code of sgminer, and I see many possible speed increases. Quark/qubit. I have picked up a couple of AMD cards cheap(280x,290 and 290x), and will try to
rewrite and optimize quark and qubit. I belive 10-15 MHASH quark per card is possible on the 280x (up from todays 5MHASH)

300% faster.

it's not fair ))) quark is last nvidia shelter )))
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April 08, 2015, 10:23:08 AM
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I have studied the opencl code of sgminer, and I see many possible speed increases. Quark/qubit. I have picked up a couple of AMD cards cheap(280x,290 and 290x), and will try to
rewrite and optimize quark and qubit. I belive 10-15 MHASH quark per card is possible on the 280x (up from todays 5MHASH)
300% faster.
it's not fair ))) quark is last nvidia shelter )))

With proper config the 750ti will hash quark at 6 mhash(40 watt in the wall) this is higher than the 290x.
The gtx 980 can be tweaked to run close to 20mhash...

I have made this possible. Over a period of 6 months ppl have donated around 2 btc for my hard work. But a
amd kernal that is 300% faster can be sold for way more than 2 btc. My gpu coder student time is over. Time to make some $$$

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April 08, 2015, 10:58:08 AM
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280x Qubit 1150/1500 5.6mh/s 15.3 beta....It seems that it has great potensial with  optimised kernel.


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April 08, 2015, 11:10:15 AM
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280x Qubit 1150/1500 5.6mh/s 15.3 beta....It seems that it has great potensial with  optimised kernel.

The gtx 980 does around 15 Mhash with my latest mod.
 The 750ti does around 5.3 Mhash  with overclock (50watt)

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April 08, 2015, 11:11:31 AM
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I have made this possible. Over a period of 6 months ppl have donated around 2 btc for my hard work. But a
amd kernal that is 300% faster can be sold for way more than 2 btc. My gpu coder student time is over. Time to make some $$$


It was a joke. My interest in mining is only in the ways how code for specific devices can be optimized. To few places are in the world where developers care about optimization )))
That's why i don't like private kernels, i can't see the code (((
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April 08, 2015, 11:19:31 AM
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sp  how much does electricity cost there?
5-7 thb pr Kw
Around 0.15$
and that is just standard? ... not off peak? ...
wow ... that is a crap load less than what we are paying here in adelaide australia ...
we are getting ripped off BIG ...
#crysx

Looks like you should invest in some solar panels. Feed the farm and return the extra kw's to the grid
Is land cheap there? In south east asia you could buy 1 acre of desert/farm land for around 3000$

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April 08, 2015, 02:41:27 PM
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Wàtch and learn:

http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=65400

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April 08, 2015, 02:50:14 PM
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Google fairlight. Is it the enemy of the state? The smartest brains in the world.. but fair...

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April 08, 2015, 02:51:48 PM
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+1 Awesome; just too short ^^" Was almost in the mood to go out & party lol

Any way to rip the audio file directly? Youtube quality sucks.
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April 08, 2015, 03:10:03 PM
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sp  how much does electricity cost there?
5-7 thb pr Kw
Around 0.15$
and that is just standard? ... not off peak? ...
wow ... that is a crap load less than what we are paying here in adelaide australia ...
we are getting ripped off BIG ...
#crysx

Looks like you should invest in some solar panels. Feed the farm and return the extra kw's to the grid
Is land cheap there? In south east asia you could buy 1 acre of desert/farm land for around 3000$

solar panels are a waste of space unless it is quite large to cater for the farm ... for that you need land ... which leads me to the answer of your next question ...

land here in adelaide is a lot cheaper than most other states in australia - but by far is still not cheap ...

apart from that - the government place restrictions on how MANY panels and how much you can actually have compared to the usage ... making it near impossible to live without being connected to the grid AND feeding off it continuously ... greedy bastards they are ...

in the inland country areas - it is a LOT cheaper for land - but then you have the issues associated with feeding the farm with electricity ... there comes in the greedy bastards AGAIN ...

i am seriously considering taking a small break to thailand to voyeur the offerings of land and electricity ... it seems growth is a limited thing where i am - whereas thailand is a more accepting place for growth and expandability ... amongst other places on earth ...

if it really is as cheap as you say AND the governing bodies accept mining and the use of electricity and space - then the plan for a fram 10 times the size it is now could come much sooner than later ...

and so starts my research into the betterment of mining farms in lands yonder ...

Wink ...

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April 08, 2015, 03:16:51 PM
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+1 Awesome; just too short ^^" Was almost in the mood to go out & party lol

Any way to rip the audio file directly? Youtube quality sucks.

i dont have speakers on this home pc yet ... just moved in ... so will be looking at this this weekend ...

and you will be happy to know that the only windows machine we own ( as i need one for support reasons ) - is this one at home bomba ...

hehehe ...

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April 08, 2015, 03:20:14 PM
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lets go oldskool: http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=65371
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April 08, 2015, 04:54:52 PM
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sp  how much does electricity cost there?

5-7 thb pr Kw

Around 0.15$

and that is just standard? ... not off peak? ...

wow ... that is a crap load less than what we are paying here in adelaide australia ...

we are getting ripped off BIG ...

#crysx

That is a pretty standard rate for many parts of the USA.

We are talking $0.15 US Dollars per kilowatt-hour, correct?

What do you pay there in Adelaide?
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April 08, 2015, 05:07:17 PM
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sp  how much does electricity cost there?

5-7 thb pr Kw

Around 0.15$

and that is just standard? ... not off peak? ...

wow ... that is a crap load less than what we are paying here in adelaide australia ...

we are getting ripped off BIG ...

#crysx

That is a pretty standard rate for many parts of the USA.

We are talking $0.15 US Dollars per kilowatt-hour, correct?

What do you pay there in Adelaide?

yes - correct ...

depending on who you are with - but the average cost is AUD 0.30 - and in most parts of the state ( south australia ) it goes UP as you use more to about AUD 0.38 ...

so even with the exchange rate as is - it would only cost us AUD 0.17 or 0.18 at the US rate ...

we are really looking into relocating the farm ... need to now ... especially since the plan to grow it is very near ...

at first the idea was to move interstate to the cheapest rate in any state in australia ... now the it seems the best places are international ...

and with sp and the 'dev gang' optimizing like they are ... it will make more sense to move it elsewhere ...

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April 08, 2015, 08:12:45 PM
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280x Qubit 1150/1500 5.6mh/s 15.3 beta....It seems that it has great potensial with  optimised kernel.

The gtx 980 does around 15 Mhash with my latest mod.
 The 750ti does around 5.3 Mhash  with overclock (50watt)
with sp44 750Ti 4.9 Mhash , it seems you ipmroved greatly.Hope to see this built soon  Tongue .What about Quarkk with your latest mod? Your private mods for sale or just for your self ? )))


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April 09, 2015, 12:16:35 AM
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I have made this possible. Over a period of 6 months ppl have donated around 2 btc for my hard work. But a
amd kernal that is 300% faster can be sold for way more than 2 btc. My gpu coder student time is over. Time to make some $$$

Have you considered a Claymore type of approach for nvidia? That has got to earn a whole lot more and once you've done it, it will keep earning for you until someone comes in an makes a faster miner which is not very likely. You really deserve way more than 2 BTC but a lot of people don't even know anything about ccminer and just following tutorials to start mining without ever contributing to you.

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April 09, 2015, 01:39:48 AM
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I have made this possible. Over a period of 6 months ppl have donated around 2 btc for my hard work. But a
amd kernal that is 300% faster can be sold for way more than 2 btc. My gpu coder student time is over. Time to make some $$$

Have you considered a Claymore type of approach for nvidia? That has got to earn a whole lot more and once you've done it, it will keep earning for you until someone comes in an makes a faster miner which is not very likely. You really deserve way more than 2 BTC but a lot of people don't even know anything about ccminer and just following tutorials to start mining without ever contributing to you.

It requires you to dump SGMiner/CUDAMiner/ccminer (all are infected with the GPL) and write your own, full-custom. I'm working on it, but it's a major pain in the ass. It also carries risk - reverse engineering can rob you of that work in an instant, so the binaries must be hardened well.

agreed ...

as good as you are composing a well hardened locked miner - there will be someone just as good reverse engineering it ...

the open source model and 'trust' effort for sale of ones optimizations seem to be the better way of doing it ... for now ...

the best model seems simply that the dev produces - then SUPPORTS the miner and optimizations ...

take the most successful company with that model to date - redhat ...

i wish you well wolf ... although i can imagine the hell you are going through trying to get it all done ...

as i said earlier on irc ... if your miner has the stability and functionality of ccminer and the 'stats candy' of sgminer built in to a single miner - then you will have a winner ... especially if that miner can do both nvidia AND amd with the 'flick of a parameter' - so to speak ...

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April 09, 2015, 02:17:15 AM
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I have made this possible. Over a period of 6 months ppl have donated around 2 btc for my hard work. But a
amd kernal that is 300% faster can be sold for way more than 2 btc. My gpu coder student time is over. Time to make some $$$

Have you considered a Claymore type of approach for nvidia? That has got to earn a whole lot more and once you've done it, it will keep earning for you until someone comes in an makes a faster miner which is not very likely. You really deserve way more than 2 BTC but a lot of people don't even know anything about ccminer and just following tutorials to start mining without ever contributing to you.

It requires you to dump SGMiner/CUDAMiner/ccminer (all are infected with the GPL) and write your own, full-custom. I'm working on it, but it's a major pain in the ass. It also carries risk - reverse engineering can rob you of that work in an instant, so the binaries must be hardened well.

agreed ...

as good as you are composing a well hardened locked miner - there will be someone just as good reverse engineering it ...

the open source model and 'trust' effort for sale of ones optimizations seem to be the better way of doing it ... for now ...

the best model seems simply that the dev produces - then SUPPORTS the miner and optimizations ...

take the most successful company with that model to date - redhat ...

i wish you well wolf ... although i can imagine the hell you are going through trying to get it all done ...

as i said earlier on irc ... if your miner has the stability and functionality of ccminer and the 'stats candy' of sgminer built in to a single miner - then you will have a winner ... especially if that miner can do both nvidia AND amd with the 'flick of a parameter' - so to speak ...

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Well, no, you don't have someone as good reversing it. Not because there is no one, but because you simply need to make it not worth their time to do so.

I'm implementing a Stratum pool client first. I also plan to support getblocktemplate.

well - there seem to be people worldwide reverse engineering software 'for the fun' of it wolf ... just because 'they can' as a little project for themselves ...

look at the many many MANY things that are happening these days in the crypto world - just for the sake of it ...

im just saying that people as talented as you and sp ( and many others not mentioned ) really need some form of a payment system where you are rewarded for the amazing work that you guys do ...

there really is NOTHING in place for it ... not that i can see anyway ...

i was in a situation a while back where i volunteered my networking skills for a non-profit organization which i expected nothing in return ... what i did for free would have cost them thousands of dollars ...

what happened amazed the hell out of me ... the hand-outs i received as a thankyou was more than being paid cash ... which i promptly donated back to the non-profit organization - as i started the work with the intention of helping them ...

what im trying to say is simply this ... this non-profit organization has a SYSTEM in place for donations and handouts and things of that nature to help themselves AND others ... there is no such system for you - as developers ...

im looking at setting something up to allow for donations to be placed specifically FOR the development AND the developers such as yourself ...

this way - reverse engineer or not - you actually are rewarded for the work done ... not just in words ...

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April 09, 2015, 02:19:06 AM
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I have made this possible. Over a period of 6 months ppl have donated around 2 btc for my hard work. But a
amd kernal that is 300% faster can be sold for way more than 2 btc. My gpu coder student time is over. Time to make some $$$

Have you considered a Claymore type of approach for nvidia? That has got to earn a whole lot more and once you've done it, it will keep earning for you until someone comes in an makes a faster miner which is not very likely. You really deserve way more than 2 BTC but a lot of people don't even know anything about ccminer and just following tutorials to start mining without ever contributing to you.

It requires you to dump SGMiner/CUDAMiner/ccminer (all are infected with the GPL) and write your own, full-custom. I'm working on it, but it's a major pain in the ass. It also carries risk - reverse engineering can rob you of that work in an instant, so the binaries must be hardened well.

agreed ...

as good as you are composing a well hardened locked miner - there will be someone just as good reverse engineering it ...

the open source model and 'trust' effort for sale of ones optimizations seem to be the better way of doing it ... for now ...

the best model seems simply that the dev produces - then SUPPORTS the miner and optimizations ...

take the most successful company with that model to date - redhat ...

i wish you well wolf ... although i can imagine the hell you are going through trying to get it all done ...

as i said earlier on irc ... if your miner has the stability and functionality of ccminer and the 'stats candy' of sgminer built in to a single miner - then you will have a winner ... especially if that miner can do both nvidia AND amd with the 'flick of a parameter' - so to speak ...

#crysx

Well, no, you don't have someone as good reversing it. Not because there is no one, but because you simply need to make it not worth their time to do so.

I'm implementing a Stratum pool client first. I also plan to support getblocktemplate.
actually what is infected by gpl (the detail) ?
What are the required change ? (a bit interested as well, not sure I have the time though)

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