CCminer(SP-MOD) Modded GPU kernels.

[zTheWolfz]

EVGA GXT750Ti in the house.  

Speed look about normal for sp_74?

[scryptr]

X11 is another option, but it has to improve a lot before it will be comparable to either of them. ROI currently for this kernel is negative.

My latest private does 3.1MHASH@50watt. (750ti)
Nicehash x11 miner does 11MHASH@(250watt!!) (r9 280x)

15,5/11= 40% bether.

My NVIDIA kernal is mining x11 40% more efficient than the fastest x11 kernal on AMD cards..


My 3card r9 280x rig pulled over 800watt in the wall when I tested the latest Nicehash miner. Quark/qubit was pulling around 700 with only 3 cards. (Watt messured including cpu/motherboard and harddrive)

Nicehash X11 does 20MHASH @ 100 watt with the right card.

so 7 x 750ti = also 20Mhash but 350 watt.

 

But than again, price of a 750ti is what? 150 Bucks? no idea.

The "right card" = 450bucks.

Ah, it's still more profitable :p

x11 for Nvidia hasn't been improved in quite some time, where as I believe Wolf is working on x11 a lot for AMD.

Is this "right card" an R9 Nano?  I'd like to know where to get one for $450.  Or, at least the model of this card so that I could shop for it.       --acryptr

The Netherlands  

Anyhow, i wouldn't buy one.
It's small, quiet, ugly (it's a dwarf), stays rather cold all the time, memory speed only 500Mhz.. bah..  Conclusion. Not worth it  

PLEASE DON'T BE OFFENDED--

What is the make and model of this card?  I made a guess, but I'd really like to know for sure.       --scryptr

AMD dropped the price of the Nano to $500 a few weeks ago.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100007709%20600566293

IT IS! IT IS!--

IT IS A PUTTY CAT!!   Thanks.  I just noticed the big price drop now...       --scryptr

[bathrobehero]

There has been a lot of discussion lately about SP's frequent begging for donations and going
private with further optimizations.

While I don't agree with this he can do what he wants. I have not been one of his donaters for
the simple raeson I don't have any employment income or pension. I'm living off investment
income at about one third of my previous salary. Had I been a donater I'd be upset with SP at
this point so I understand some of the anger.

I hope he gets the community spirit back.

At least try to be more subtle about it and trim the
excess quoted text.

There is one person who has tempted me to hit the ignore button more than once. I wish he'd
take a step back and stop spouting his one opinion so often. At least try to be more subtle
about it and trim the excess quoted text.

Other than that I'm in a cheery mood after a tough couple of days, you can find out why by
visiting my thread. There I got my plug in.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1326803.msg13610998#msg13610998

PS. Yesterday was apparently blue Monday, only in the northern hemisphere I assume.
It is supposedly the gloomiest day in the dead of winter. I'm sure statisticians cringe at the
notion.

Cheer up everyone.

I agree a lot with you there. And don't worry, I also have a few people ignored.

Anyway, I'm still using an old version of release 6x because a few percentages doesn't worth it to me to spend 0.1 or to use a miner that has potentional issues - being a small miner with ~2KW worth of hardware.

I'm also not a fan of unplanned and undisclosed private miner releases, like price changes and how many people it's going to get sold for and when it gets opensourced.
For example, the pentablake miner was started at 0.3 BTC for 5 people only but then it was decided that more people can buy it and then its price was reduced to 0.1 BTC out of nowhere screwing early investors;

I have sold 5 copies of the pentablake miner, so will not sell anymore. But I have already improved the hashrate, so the pentablake owners will recieve another version with more hash. (+5Mhash on the gtx 970)

I now have a discount on  my 120% faster pentablake miner. It can be Yours for a 0.1 BTC donation. (Joincoin)

pm for details..

And let's be honest here, the only people buying that miner are either just wanted to donate or have a ridiculously huge farm or just suck at math because even if they were mining every single pentablake block when Joincoin was hot, it would have took them 6 days to break even not accounting for electricity and the profit of mining anything else. So realistically, even for huge farms it would have taken weeks to break even let alone being profitable.


As much as I respect SP as a coder, I'd never pay for a miner that's release conditions and price are not clearly disclosed in advance.
And honestly, asking for 0.1 BTC for a few percentages every single day knowing damn well that it doesn't worth it for anyone who doesn't have a massive farm is getting pretty desperate and quite old here.

I've donated to several devs what I felt I should and I wouldn't mind donating a lot more but the constant bickering and begging and lack of competition is making me feel like I should just give up on this part of the forum.

[joblo]

EVGA GXT750Ti in the house.  

Speed look about normal for sp_74?

It's in the ball park but I don't have a 960 to compare.

[joblo]

As much as I respect SP as a coder,

I forgot to mention that. I'm impressed with his work to fine tune the defaults for each card.
That is a big convenience to users.

[sp_]

Other than that I'm in a cheery mood after a tough couple of days, you can find out why by
visiting my thread. There I got my plug in.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1326803.msg13610998#msg13610998

Cheer up everyone.

A modern I7 CPU is doing around 0.7MHASH in the quark algo isn't it? My buyabable private kernal is up 1 MHASH on the 980ti. Just a few percent increase, but more than a modern I7. Cpu mining is a waste. Why don't you optimize my cuda code instead?

[sp_]

I'm also not a fan of unplanned and undisclosed private miner releases, like price changes and how many people it's going to get sold for and when it gets opensourced.
For example, the pentablake miner was started at 0.3 BTC for 5 people only but then it was decided that more people can buy it and then its price was reduced to 0.1 BTC out of nowhere screwing early investors;

Joincoin has collapsed. 75% of it's value is gone since october when the penta miner was released.

http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/joincoin/

[sp_]

AMD dropped the price of the Nano to $500 a few weeks ago.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100007709%20600566293

Let's do a profit calculation..

The nano can do 20MHASH of x11

0.020GHASH * 0.15 (Nicehash payment for 1 GHASH) = 0,003 BTC /DAY

500$ = 1,32BTC

1.32/0.003 = 440

It will take the Nano 440 days TO ROI with FREE POWER. And in these 440 days we have pascal and the 14NM chips comming..

[sp_]

As much as I respect SP as a coder, I'd never pay for a miner that's release conditions and price are not clearly disclosed in advance.
And honestly, asking for 0.1 BTC for a few percentages every single day knowing damn well that it doesn't worth it for anyone who doesn't have a massive farm is getting pretty desperate and quite old here.

But one day there will be no more open source optimalizations, and then you will be forced to buy the private miner, or stop mining with a profit.

[sp_]

Anyway, I'm still using an old version of release 6x because a few percentages doesn't worth it to me to spend 0.1 or to use a miner that has potentional issues - being a small miner with ~2KW worth of hardware.

At the current penta difficulty a single 980ti card will make around 100 joincoins a day. (140MHASH) with a price of 0.00006BTC a joincoin you make 0.006 BTC. with my private miner. This is 100% more than mining x11 with the NANO @nicehash.

[joblo]

Other than that I'm in a cheery mood after a tough couple of days, you can find out why by
visiting my thread. There I got my plug in.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1326803.msg13610998#msg13610998

Cheer up everyone.

A modern I7 CPU is doing around 0.7MHASH in the quark algo isn't it? My buyabable private kernal is up 1 MHASH on the 980ti. Just a few percent increase, but more than a modern I7. Cpu mining is a waste. Why don't you optimize my cuda code instead?

722 now on a 4790K @ 4 GHz, but you're right. tyhere is no way it's profitable. But like i said before
I'm not in it for the money. That works both ways. It's a hobby that has revenue that offsets the cost.
Developement on cpuminer is interesting and I'm learning a lot of skills that will be applibale to ccminer
development so when I get there i'll have a less steep learning curve, hopefully not as steepas the one
I'm on now. It seems the skills I do have sometoimes geting in the way of relearning the c++ way.

Don't worry I'm chasing you down, maybe sooner than you think. 

[joblo]

AMD dropped the price of the Nano to $500 a few weeks ago.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100007709%20600566293

Let's do a profit calculation..

The nano can do 20MHASH of x11

0.020GHASH * 0.15 (Nicehash payment for 1 GHASH) = 0,003 BTC /DAY

500$ = 1,32BTC

1.32/0.003 = 440

It will take the Nano 440 days TO ROI with FREE POWER. And in these 440 days we have pascal and the 14NM chips comming..

Have to agree with that. I'm waiting for pascal.

[joblo]

As much as I respect SP as a coder, I'd never pay for a miner that's release conditions and price are not clearly disclosed in advance.
And honestly, asking for 0.1 BTC for a few percentages every single day knowing damn well that it doesn't worth it for anyone who doesn't have a massive farm is getting pretty desperate and quite old here.

But one day there will be no more open source optimalizations, and then you will be forced to buy the private miner, or stop mining with a profit.

Or build my own.

Actually SP I don't want to fight with you. I'd rather work with you, If you're angry I haven't
donated to your cause I can live with that.  It's not like I don't contribute in other ways.
I even help answer questions posed at you. I hope you reconsider your decision to go purely
business-like. Like I said, for me it's a hobby, not a business.

[ldw-com]

AMD dropped the price of the Nano to $500 a few weeks ago.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100007709%20600566293

Let's do a profit calculation..

The nano can do 20MHASH of x11

0.020GHASH * 0.15 (Nicehash payment for 1 GHASH) = 0,003 BTC /DAY

500$ = 1,32BTC

1.32/0.003 = 440

It will take the Nano 440 days TO ROI with FREE POWER. And in these 440 days we have pascal and the 14NM chips comming..

Have to agree with that. I'm waiting for pascal.

Yeah because we all mine X11  .. a nano does 26-27Mh/s @ ethereum (not oc'ed). Or 50$ per month. 450/50 = 9. 9 x 30 = 270 days.

Calculations...... 

Pascal, true, but knowing AMD, they will delay it until January 2017. In other words. You've got your ROI for that nano. Resell it and you'll make a nice profit.


Btw, Cheapest 980TI i can find is over 700 dollar, compared to that 450 dollar from the nano..

[sp_]

Yeah because we all mine X11  .. a nano does 26-27Mh/s @ ethereum (not oc'ed). Or 50$ per month. 450/50 = 9. 9 x 30 = 270 days.

Thats why I said, Slow and expensive. Mine Etherum..

A r9 280x used to do 25MHASH in etherum as well. You can pick them up cheap at around $120 used. The nano can copy memory fast, but not faster in random access..

[ol92]

Yeah because we all mine X11  .. a nano does 26-27Mh/s @ ethereum (not oc'ed). Or 50$ per month. 450/50 = 9. 9 x 30 = 270 days.

Thats why I said, Slow and expensive. Mine Etherum..

A r9 280x used to do 25MHASH in etherum as well. You can pick them up cheap at around $120 used. The nano can copy memory fast, but not faster in random access..

Due to tlb trashing, the 280x is not as good as before (incredible card : when you consider its age). I am mining ethereum with a refurbished R9 290X : 30Mh/s on windows 10 with 170W consumption, without bios modding (I regret being late to ethereum mining, but I had no longer amd cards till december).
About 1.2 eth/day.
Before I was mining spreadcoin  with a pair  of  GTX 980 then a pair of refurbished GTX 980 ti with you private miner (I have waited spr rise before selling) :  clearly profitable... (more than 2 btc obtained with spr, and I sold my GTX with minimal loss).
But this is just a hobby with this small mining power : a mining which pay me my upgrades...

[rednoW]

Yeah because we all mine X11  .. a nano does 26-27Mh/s @ ethereum (not oc'ed). Or 50$ per month. 450/50 = 9. 9 x 30 = 270 days.

Thats why I said, Slow and expensive. Mine Etherum..

A r9 280x used to do 25MHASH in etherum as well. You can pick them up cheap at around $120 used. The nano can copy memory fast, but not faster in random access..

My old 7950 can do 25mhash etherium havily oc'ed to 1150/1500 with std vmem timings or 1100/1250 with bios modded vmem timings (Grime gave a link). Both unstable  
23 MHash stable with 1100/1250 undervolted to 1.09 with only 56C on quiet 2300 rpm fan.

[bensam1231]

As much as I respect SP as a coder, I'd never pay for a miner that's release conditions and price are not clearly disclosed in advance.
And honestly, asking for 0.1 BTC for a few percentages every single day knowing damn well that it doesn't worth it for anyone who doesn't have a massive farm is getting pretty desperate and quite old here.

This is a really weird statement. WHO on the forums actually does release their miner with conditions and prices that are clearly disclosed in advance? That's one of my biggest problems with the private kernel devs on this forum. SP so far is one of the most open individuals when it comes to price, even if it fluctuates.

He tells you what you get, how much power it uses, and how much it costs. He posts it everywhere.

What kernels are Wolf0 selling? Pallas? DJM (besides Neo)? Oh yeah, you don't know... 'Contact the customer service rep for pricing and availability'

Even if it's not worth it right now, it may be in the future. It's no different then his normal releases he did every week or so months ago, only now it costs .1 BTC. That's actually marketing his product and attempting to sell it. I assume the .1BTC is also for future versions of the miner as well.

Yeah because we all mine X11  .. a nano does 26-27Mh/s @ ethereum (not oc'ed). Or 50$ per month. 450/50 = 9. 9 x 30 = 270 days.

Thats why I said, Slow and expensive. Mine Etherum..

A r9 280x used to do 25MHASH in etherum as well. You can pick them up cheap at around $120 used. The nano can copy memory fast, but not faster in random access..

Due to tlb trashing, the 280x is not as good as before (incredible card : when you consider its age). I am mining ethereum with a refurbished R9 290X : 30Mh/s on windows 10 with 170W consumption, without bios modding (I regret being late to ethereum mining, but I had no longer amd cards till december).
About 1.2 eth/day.
Before I was mining spreadcoin  with a pair  of  GTX 980 then a pair of refurbished GTX 980 ti with you private miner (I have waited spr rise before selling) :  clearly profitable... (more than 2 btc obtained with spr, and I sold my GTX with minimal loss).
But this is just a hobby with this small mining power : a mining which pay me my upgrades...

It's currently quite profitable to mine Eth, but if you buy AMD you lock yourself into Eth or hope Wolf0 will sell you a kernel and not for complete assrape prices. As we can see with the recent destruction of FTC and Cryptsy, that's not always a wise choice. There are too many unknowns in cryptos to rely solely on one specific coin (I used to mine Burst and learned that the hard way).

Nvidia mining in general is down right now though. Pretty much everything is earning less then a dollar. Spread has been heavily saturated in the last month or so too, so it's next to impossible to profit from it anymore, especially considering how much the market fluctuates (it lost 50% of it's value in the last week). It's a safer bet mining Ethereum with crippled Nvidia hardware.

I assume that's going to change in the future though. No one knows what algos are going to go up or down. There are a lot of options that are pretty low right now. It could be GPU mining is just saturated in general too. ROI on SHA/Scrypt ASICs has been better then GPUs for about the last six months, especially right now.

[djm34]

As much as I respect SP as a coder, I'd never pay for a miner that's release conditions and price are not clearly disclosed in advance.
And honestly, asking for 0.1 BTC for a few percentages every single day knowing damn well that it doesn't worth it for anyone who doesn't have a massive farm is getting pretty desperate and quite old here.

This is a really weird statement. WHO on the forums actually does release their miner with conditions and prices that are clearly disclosed in advance? That's one of my biggest problems with the private kernel devs on this forum. SP so far is one of the most open individuals when it comes to price, even if it fluctuates.

He tells you what you get, how much power it uses, and how much it costs. He posts it everywhere.

What kernels are Wolf0 selling? Pallas? DJM (besides Neo)? Oh yeah, you don't know... 'Contact the customer service rep for pricing and availability'

not sure we really have a customer service, but where there is something to sell, the community usually gets informed... 

[tbearhere]

AUTOSWITCH BATCH FILE FOR YAAMP CLONE--

Following is a copy of my autoswitching batch file for CCminer on a YAAMP Pool clone, like HashPower:


==========CUT LINE==========

:loop

C:\work\mine\spminer\ccminer.exe -r 0 -a x11  -i 20.5 -C --cpu-priority 5 -o stratum+tcp://hashpower.co:3533 -u YOUR-COIN-ADDRESS-HERE -p x11=5.5,x13=4.4,x15=3.8,quark=11.4,neoscrypt=0.35,lyra2v2=6.5,qubit=8.1  -b 0.0.0.0:4068
timeout /t 3

C:\work\mine\spminer\ccminer.exe -r 0 -a x13  -i 20.5 -C --cpu-priority 5 -o stratum+tcp://hashpower.co:3633 -u YOUR-COIN-ADDRESS-HERE -p x11=5.5,x13=4.4,x15=3.8,quark=11.4,neoscrypt=0.35,lyra2v2=6.5,qubit=8.1  -b 0.0.0.0:4068
timeout /t 3

C:\work\mine\spminer\ccminer.exe -r 0 -a x15 -i 20.5 -C --cpu-priority 5  -o stratum+tcp://hashpower.co:3733 -u YOUR-COIN-ADDRESS-HERE -p x11=5.5,x13=4.4,x15=3.8,quark=11.4,neoscrypt=0.35,lyra2v2=6.5,qubit=8.1  -b 0.0.0.0:4068
timeout /t 3

C:\work\mine\spminer\ccminer.exe -r 0 -a quark -i 23.9 -C --cpu-priority 5 -o stratum+tcp://hashpower.co:4033 -u YOUR-COIN-ADDRESS-HERE -p x11=5.5,x13=4.4,x15=3.8,quark=11.4,neoscrypt=0.35,lyra2v2=6.5,qubit=8.1  -b 0.0.0.0:4068
timeout /t 3

C:\work\mine\spminer\ccminer.exe -r 0 -a neoscrypt -i 15.5 -C --cpu-priority 5 -o stratum+tcp://hashpower.co:4233 -u YOUR-COIN-ADDRESS-HERE -p x11=5.5,x13=4.4,x15=3.8,quark=11.4,neoscrypt=0.35,lyra2v2=6.5,qubit=8.1  -b 0.0.0.0:4068
timeout /t 3

C:\work\mine\spminer\ccminer.exe -r 0 -a lyra2v2 -i 19.1 -C --cpu-priority 5 -o stratum+tcp://hashpower.co:5433 -u YOUR-COIN-ADDRESS-HERE  -p x11=5.5,x13=4.4,x15=3.8,quark=11.4,neoscrypt=0.35,lyra2v2=6.5,qubit=8.1  -b 0.0.0.0:4068
timeout /t 3

C:\work\mine\spminer\ccminer.exe -r 0 -a qubit -i 19.7  -C --cpu-priority 5 -o stratum+tcp://hashpower.co:4733 -u YOUR-COIN-ADDRESS-HERE -p x11=5.5,x13=4.4,x15=3.8,quark=11.4,neoscrypt=0.35,lyra2v2=6.5,qubit=8.1  -b 0.0.0.0:4068
timeout /t 3

goto loop

==========CUT LINE==========

Save the text above, minus the "==CUT LINE==" notations, as "switch bat", and run the batch file under Wndows.  The above hash rates are relevant for a GTX 960, but will work OK for any model nVidia card until personal hash rates are established for any CCminer build/card model combo.  The specified PATH should be modified for your personal miner's PATH environmental variable.  Also, these hash rates were attained with the  current Private Miner from sp_ (v2.7).       --scryptr

Will this payout in BTC if you have all wallet addresses set to a Bitcoin address?
I tried this on one rig, but the other rigs I have in the bat file is

      -u my BTC address  -p c=BTC
as can be seen here.