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January 09, 2015, 05:05:15 AM |
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After watching American greed, Homero looks even dumber. There was a guy who scammed bill clinton and anne Hathaway. Homero is just stealing from retards.
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January 09, 2015, 05:12:15 AM |
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After watching American greed, Homero looks even dumber. There was a guy who scammed bill clinton and anne Hathaway. Homero is just stealing from retards.
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January 09, 2015, 05:12:19 AM |
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They do take credit cards, but at least with some measure of verification: http://leaserig.freshdesk.com/support/solutions/articles/1000075203-credit-card-acceptance-and-payment-policesSeems right now zero verification at Homero's operation, is that even legal? How about that money business license is there one for him in Texas now or wherever you should have it for your operation. The impression they continually create is like a kid trying to stick a cube in the cube hole struggling and struggling and finally does it. Here they been struggling and struggling to keep their promise of CC payments trying everything and everyone, and now they probably lied to stripe to get one, they so proud of themselves, they forgot the fundamental license and verifications. Cause once it is raised it will be declared BETA and the CEO never said it was live yet. However half backed is the MO, they will shut it down after stripe tells them to, claim that something else forced them to close it, trolls attacking it, redditors hacking it, any old excuse, but there after gloat, see we did as we promised, we did provide CC payments. All for a day. Like the 30 second ceiling nearly realized. See but we did do as we said we would, we did meet the ceiling. All of 30 seconds that lasted. Same story different day. We're in the MAJOR leagues now, ladies and germs. The second he and/or is coverts launched this extension of Paybase, the scheme fell under the direct jurisdiction of the US FinCEN per 31 CFR 1010.100(t) (formerly 31 CFR 103.11(n)). Adding his 10% "convenience" fee is just icing on the cake. Expect things to happen much faster now. Ref: http://www.fincen.gov/financial_institutions/msb/definitions/msb.htmlhttp://www.fincen.gov/financial_institutions/msb/definitions/person.htmlhttp://www.fincen.gov/financial_institutions/msb/definitions/fin_ins.htmlI can confirm the 10% "fee". For shits and giggles, I decided to buy $100 of XPY with my rewards credit card, with the intention of immediately transferring to BTC, and then selling on coinbase to USD. Plus it was just $100, so I didn't really care if I lost 10-15% by the time I got back to USD to see how the process worked. Steps I took. 1) Input my address and credit card info at Paybase. 2) Confirmed my phone number, to which I got a text from Swipe thanking me for signing up and saving my Credit Card data. 3) Typed in $100 into the USD field. 4) Clicked Buy. 5) On the next screen, I was thanked for my order, and informed I was charged $110.26. Note that I was never informed the final price before accepting (I thought it was the $100 I typed in), nor do I see anywhere that I should have been charged a 10% fee. 6) My credit card had a pending auth from "Online San Francisco". 7) It then took over an hour for the XPY to deposit to Paybase. 8) Sent to Coin-Swap, sold for BTC, and sent to Coinbase. 9) Final result was $101 in BTC. So if it wouldn't have been for the 10% fee, I would have come out even (plus the 2% rewards i'll get from my credit card). |
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January 09, 2015, 05:13:34 AM |
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The feelings are mutual. Scott- |
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January 09, 2015, 05:14:26 AM |
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https://hashtalk.org/topic/28500/@GAWCEO Restored Credit Card Purchasing
Dear Paycoin customers,
The credit purchasing feature is in the process of being turned back on.
We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused.
Paybase Well Josh is hiding behind the generic Paybase sig for his ANN's but he can't even get that right. No more pre-announcements? Well, maybe except in emergencies when bots need help... |
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January 09, 2015, 05:15:53 AM |
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I would say that people take it personally because they trace the causal links of their losing money directly to these quote fud unquote articles. Plus the us vs them mentality, which probably isn't that widespread on shareholder boards.
The fact that so many of the HT folk "take it personally because they trade the causal links of them losing money" to CF and CT reports is what is bizzare IMHO. Consider an analogous situation .. suppose a blog like TechCrunch started publishing repeatedly bad stories about the new iPhone... detailing bugs, missteps, broken promises, etc. and that Apple's stock took a dive after the phone was released amidst all the bad PR. Even if negative articles were wide read and quoted, I could not imagine an irate shareholder (even a total Apple fanboy) threatening to kill the author of the article. In fact, since that kind of negative PR happens all the time, usually the response of an a shareholder who thinks that a company is being unfairly targeted by bad PR would be to view the dip in price as a huge buying opportunity... since eventually Apple would prove the naysayers wrong (in the fanboy's mind). So again, why the rabid dog attacks on a news blog? If the poster really thought it unfair and untrue, they would be thanking CF and buying more XPY, waiting for Josh to prove everyone here wrong. The vitriol directed by those folks on HT against the discussion here is strange to me. If its not a cult, I just don't understand what motivates such behaviors. Fun experiment for you to try; go to one of those forums for "get rich quick with stock signals and technical trading" bullshit, and quote the studies showing that technical trading doesn't cover fees on average. Then come back here and let us know who was more vicious.
I have done this in meetings with so-called analysits. Yes they are unperturbed, arrogant, poorly educated and angry at the questions .. I probably don't have many friends left who read Investors Business Daily lol ..but still no one has threatened violence for my insolence to date. I would seriously not be surprised if it turns out that Josh himself made the threat. I can picture him sitting in front of his computer seething, riddled with anxiety and the full force of his failures weighing down on him as he types away madly trying to stop the unstoppable. At some point though he is going to have to face reality. I said this before and I'll say it again, If he attends the Miami conference and he is not a complete sociopath and has some kind of remorse ingrained in him from his religious studies, we may very well see him have a breakdown. Then again he could do that and shed crocodile tears in hopes of gaining sympathy from his cult. They'd probably forgive him too. Something like this is my bet   |
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January 09, 2015, 05:17:51 AM |
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I would like to know that too. I hope Ian clarifies that here or in the article comments. |
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January 09, 2015, 05:20:30 AM |
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 Cross forum communication this way is slightly less efficient that morse code.... .-- . / .-.. --- ...- . / -.-- --- ..- / -... --- -... .-.-.- / --. . - / - .... . / ..-. ..- -.-. -.- / --- ..- - / --- ..-. / - .... . .-. . ? At least he has a sense of humour I know. I hope he gets my message.. Dude,you gotta use wingdings for him to understand |
"If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day long, you are the asshole." -Raylan Givens Got GOXXED ?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KiqRpPiJAU&feature=youtu.be"An ASIC being late is perfectly normal, predictable, and legal..."Hashfast & BFL slogan |
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January 09, 2015, 05:23:53 AM |
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Correction: Paybase wasn't using Circle, but Stripe. Also "as far as we know, Garza has not commented on why they have been deleted." See https://hashtalk.org/topic/27762/gawceo-on-reddit/203, which sort of counts. They do take credit cards, but at least with some measure of verification: http://leaserig.freshdesk.com/support/solutions/articles/1000075203-credit-card-acceptance-and-payment-policesSeems right now zero verification at Homero's operation, is that even legal? How about that money business license is there one for him in Texas now or wherever you should have it for your operation. The impression they continually create is like a kid trying to stick a cube in the cube hole struggling and struggling and finally does it. Here they been struggling and struggling to keep their promise of CC payments trying everything and everyone, and now they probably lied to stripe to get one, they so proud of themselves, they forgot the fundamental license and verifications. Cause once it is raised it will be declared BETA and the CEO never said it was live yet. However half backed is the MO, they will shut it down after stripe tells them to, claim that something else forced them to close it, trolls attacking it, redditors hacking it, any old excuse, but there after gloat, see we did as we promised, we did provide CC payments. All for a day. Like the 30 second ceiling nearly realized. See but we did do as we said we would, we did meet the ceiling. All of 30 seconds that lasted. Same story different day. We're in the MAJOR leagues now, ladies and germs. The second he and/or is coverts launched this extension of Paybase, the scheme fell under the direct jurisdiction of the US FinCEN per 31 CFR 1010.100(t) (formerly 31 CFR 103.11(n)). Adding his 10% "convenience" fee is just icing on the cake. Expect things to happen much faster now. Ref: http://www.fincen.gov/financial_institutions/msb/definitions/msb.htmlhttp://www.fincen.gov/financial_institutions/msb/definitions/person.htmlhttp://www.fincen.gov/financial_institutions/msb/definitions/fin_ins.htmlI can confirm the 10% "fee". For shits and giggles, I decided to buy $100 of XPY with my rewards credit card, with the intention of immediately transferring to BTC, and then selling on coinbase to USD. Plus it was just $100, so I didn't really care if I lost 10-15% by the time I got back to USD to see how the process worked. Steps I took. 1) Input my address and credit card info at Paybase. 2) Confirmed my phone number, to which I got a text from Swipe thanking me for signing up and saving my Credit Card data. 3) Typed in $100 into the USD field. 4) Clicked Buy. 5) On the next screen, I was thanked for my order, and informed I was charged $110.26. Note that I was never informed the final price before accepting (I thought it was the $100 I typed in), nor do I see anywhere that I should have been charged a 10% fee. 6) My credit card had a pending auth from "Online San Francisco". 7) It then took over an hour for the XPY to deposit to Paybase.  Sent to Coin-Swap, sold for BTC, and sent to Coinbase. 9) Final result was $101 in BTC. So if it wouldn't have been for the 10% fee, I would have come out even (plus the 2% rewards i'll get from my credit card). That's funny, I didn't get charged any fee. Maybe they didn't charge me because I did $300, and that's their limit? Or I put the amount into the btc field, not the usd field? |
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January 09, 2015, 05:24:28 AM |
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I would say that people take it personally because they trace the causal links of their losing money directly to these quote fud unquote articles. Plus the us vs them mentality, which probably isn't that widespread on shareholder boards.
The fact that so many of the HT folk "take it personally because they trade the causal links of them losing money" to CF and CT reports is what is bizzare IMHO. Consider an analogous situation .. suppose a blog like TechCrunch started publishing repeatedly bad stories about the new iPhone... detailing bugs, missteps, broken promises, etc. and that Apple's stock took a dive after the phone was released amidst all the bad PR. Even if negative articles were wide read and quoted, I could not imagine an irate shareholder (even a total Apple fanboy) threatening to kill the author of the article. In fact, since that kind of negative PR happens all the time, usually the response of an a shareholder who thinks that a company is being unfairly targeted by bad PR would be to view the dip in price as a huge buying opportunity... since eventually Apple would prove the naysayers wrong (in the fanboy's mind). So again, why the rabid dog attacks on a news blog? If the poster really thought it unfair and untrue, they would be thanking CF and buying more XPY, waiting for Josh to prove everyone here wrong. The vitriol directed by those folks on HT against the discussion here is strange to me. If its not a cult, I just don't understand what motivates such behaviors. Fun experiment for you to try; go to one of those forums for "get rich quick with stock signals and technical trading" bullshit, and quote the studies showing that technical trading doesn't cover fees on average. Then come back here and let us know who was more vicious.
I have done this in meetings with so-called analysits. Yes they are unperturbed, arrogant, poorly educated and angry at the questions .. I probably don't have many friends left who read Investors Business Daily lol ..but still no one has threatened violence for my insolence to date. I would seriously not be surprised if it turns out that Josh himself made the threat. I can picture him sitting in front of his computer seething, riddled with anxiety and the full force of his failures weighing down on him as he types away madly trying to stop the unstoppable. At some point though he is going to have to face reality. I said this before and I'll say it again, If he attends the Miami conference and he is not a complete sociopath and has some kind of remorse ingrained in him from his religious studies, we may very well see him have a breakdown. Then again he could do that and shed crocodile tears in hopes of gaining sympathy from his cult. They'd probably forgive him too. Something like this is my bet Exactly like that. |
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January 09, 2015, 05:34:09 AM |
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https://hashtalk.org/topic/28500/@GAWCEO Restored Credit Card Purchasing
Dear Paycoin customers,
The credit purchasing feature is in the process of being turned back on.
We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused.
Paybase Well Josh is hiding behind the generic Paybase sig for his ANN's but he can't even get that right. Locked already because someone mentioned XPY hitting $1 and only 11 XPY between the current price and $1 again |
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January 09, 2015, 05:36:44 AM |
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So are the still with the same processor? Or have they switched to someone different? Anyone know who it is?
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January 09, 2015, 05:37:27 AM |
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They do take credit cards, but at least with some measure of verification: http://leaserig.freshdesk.com/support/solutions/articles/1000075203-credit-card-acceptance-and-payment-policesSeems right now zero verification at Homero's operation, is that even legal? How about that money business license is there one for him in Texas now or wherever you should have it for your operation. The impression they continually create is like a kid trying to stick a cube in the cube hole struggling and struggling and finally does it. Here they been struggling and struggling to keep their promise of CC payments trying everything and everyone, and now they probably lied to stripe to get one, they so proud of themselves, they forgot the fundamental license and verifications. Cause once it is raised it will be declared BETA and the CEO never said it was live yet. However half backed is the MO, they will shut it down after stripe tells them to, claim that something else forced them to close it, trolls attacking it, redditors hacking it, any old excuse, but there after gloat, see we did as we promised, we did provide CC payments. All for a day. Like the 30 second ceiling nearly realized. See but we did do as we said we would, we did meet the ceiling. All of 30 seconds that lasted. Same story different day. We're in the MAJOR leagues now, ladies and germs. The second he and/or is coverts launched this extension of Paybase, the scheme fell under the direct jurisdiction of the US FinCEN per 31 CFR 1010.100(t) (formerly 31 CFR 103.11(n)). Adding his 10% "convenience" fee is just icing on the cake. Expect things to happen much faster now. Ref: http://www.fincen.gov/financial_institutions/msb/definitions/msb.htmlhttp://www.fincen.gov/financial_institutions/msb/definitions/person.htmlhttp://www.fincen.gov/financial_institutions/msb/definitions/fin_ins.htmlThey are registered w/ FinCEN as an MSB. However, that's easy. Its a one page form. They also have to be licensed in the states they do business with customers. Those licenses are difficult to get. You have to have liquid capital in certain amounts, be bonded, pass a background check, etc. I put together some info on this type of situation RE: Moolah a while back, much of the info applies here too: http://www.reddit.com/r/notDogecoinFUD/comments/26wu0t/some_moowhitelies_errors/RE: Cantor - its that guy as an individual, not Cantor. The cointelegraph article was turrible on the details. |
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January 09, 2015, 05:38:07 AM |
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Someone already emailed us to tip us of to say that GAW may have more than one Stripe account and simply switching from Paybase in Texas to another account.
Unsure if that is the case. We have reached out to our contact at Stripe again but likely won't hear back tonight. We shall see.
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January 09, 2015, 05:41:33 AM |
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So are the still with the same processor? Or have they switched to someone different? Anyone know who it is?
They haven't opened it yet. As soon as they do I'll be making a test purchase. Unless I'm asleep, in which case someone else will surely do and will post the gory details. |
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January 09, 2015, 05:43:31 AM |
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About the comment on Coinfire. 100% sure someone said that earlier today when it came out on their site when told the payments were closing. Seems all the comments in that thread have been deleted.
Someone posted the Coinfire article saying that they were behind the shutting down of credit card payments to which someone immediately responded: "..'they are like a torn in our side'..".
I noted it because if the misspelling. Trying to see if it is still somewhere, but fear they deleted everything too quickly.
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January 09, 2015, 05:45:36 AM |
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Someone already emailed us to tip us of to say that GAW may have more than one Stripe account and simply switching from Paybase in Texas to another account.
Unsure if that is the case. We have reached out to our contact at Stripe again but likely won't hear back tonight. We shall see.
That would be amazing if it turns out to be true. |
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January 09, 2015, 05:47:47 AM |
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About the comment on Coinfire. 100% sure someone said that earlier today when it came out on their site when told the payments were closing. Seems all the comments in that thread have been deleted.
Someone posted the Coinfire article saying that they were behind the shutting down of credit card payments to which someone immediately responded: "..'they are like a torn in our side'..".
I noted it because if the misspelling. Trying to see if it is still somewhere, but fear they deleted everything too quickly.
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January 09, 2015, 05:50:59 AM |
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About the comment on Coinfire. 100% sure someone said that earlier today when it came out on their site when told the payments were closing. Seems all the comments in that thread have been deleted.
Someone posted the Coinfire article saying that they were behind the shutting down of credit card payments to which someone immediately responded: "..'they are like a torn in our side'..".
I noted it because if the misspelling. Trying to see if it is still somewhere, but fear they deleted everything too quickly.
Last post in this screenshot http://i3.minus.com/iPvGAE9USUL9E.pngNice snag! Wrong body part, but that is just way too coincidental in my book. Unless further along in the conversation someone else corrected him and then someone else got the big idea to comment like they did on Coinfire. |
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January 09, 2015, 05:56:16 AM |
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Someone already emailed us to tip us of to say that GAW may have more than one Stripe account and simply switching from Paybase in Texas to another account.
Unsure if that is the case. We have reached out to our contact at Stripe again but likely won't hear back tonight. We shall see.
That would be amazing if it turns out to be true. For what it's worth, from my purchase last night:  My understanding is Stripe is based in SF, so i'd assume that is why it shows as SF in my transaction? |
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