GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)

[galdur]

This Paycoin thing has traded for several dollars for a whopping three weeks. That must be close to a world record in the shitcoin industry, right ?

I wonder if this is a sign that it has some meaningful future ahead of it or just means that a very obsessive cult is behind it.

[sorryforthat]

Question,

To all those that are anti-PayCoin, did you make some money with PayCoin?  Just curious.  I have.  Watching the up and downs has put a little extra BTC in my wallet.

I got about 12 XPY from hashpoint conversion and sold when it was at about 0.037. Shortly after got rid of my one prime that I paid 45 for, selling it for about 81 after fees and then sold all my Zens for about 4 dollars losing about 3 dollars on each. So I got out of Zenminer at an almost break even point and made most my profit on XPY, which was about 0.44. I had only been with them for just over a month though, got in at about early November and outed around Christmas time.

[doogsan]

Hi all i kept out of this discussion for months. like some of you i was shadow banned for asking too many questions and i guess upsetting Josh by saying all BMW drivers are dicks, i also posted many reverse image searches on his images which proved they were stolen which is a worrie for a million dollar company.

i finally flipped out and sold 90% of my holdings as everything i read sounded like my ex misses excuse for f*cking other guys,  well by this time id gone manic (im schizoaffective) and as soon as i got the money out i gambled it all away,  no falt here but my own but it was Joshes lies that got me into the position of putting all that money on a credit card and into crypto.

to me the Scam was get a massive customer base with great mining payouts which it did (but bassed on nothing).  to then change them payouts for HashPoints for a coin that iver could or could not work.  This was his Prime plan all along.  Its a no loss for josh and he wins

im not the biggest fool and i got out early and im a evil dumper that dumped my XPY at almost first chance to pay my next credit card bill, sadly not all of it.

Josh ik you have no heart but you almost killed me (i took a overdose while manic at the loss and shame i had been involved in this)  But pls end this scam now, its over it dident work, you still win you just not going to be a billionaire ffs how much is enough.

Sorry to hear about your ordeal. Many people got fooled by Josh, you were smart enough to get out.

My guess is this won't last much longer and with any luck Josh will go to jail for what he has done.

[doogsan]

Bearish.

My guess is hardcore believers are still managing to keep it afloat. GAW is likely to be dumping into this though at times of rising prices.

[jfabritz]

See my post 20 minutes ago where Josh clearly stated that out of the 12,000,000 block zero coins, 60% went to customers (for hashpoints) and 40% to investors...

Is that plausible? That would be 7.2 million XPY to customers for hashpoints.

They were talking about 400 hashpoints per XPY. So that's 2.88 billion-with-a-b hashpoints!
http://gawminers.eu/news/hashcoin-ico-customer-round-qa-transcript-yesterday-evening/
[By the way, there's some good stuff in that link. I'll come back to it.]

I first heard about XPY when it was Hashcoin, and it sounded like not just a scam but an audacious scam so I kept an eye on it. But I don't know a lot of the GAW details. What I remember about hashpoints is people on HT talking about picking up only small numbers of Hashcoins that way. The big investors boasted about having tens of thousands of hashpoints. In this thread: https://hashtalk.org/topic/15040/how-much-could-your-hp-be-worth-after-the-ico/8
(comment number eight, upvoted by GAWCEO) someone estimates that the "champions" have around 4 million hash points total. (He's arguing that because there are so few hashpoints, then based on the projected market cap each hashpoint should be worth closer to a dollar than a penny.)

So is it even plausible that 60% of the premine went to customers for hashpoints?

With 36 zens and 15 primes, I mined the shite out of hashpoints (not like I had any choice...) and ended up with approximately 40k of hash points that net me ~100 paycoin.

I was nowhere near the rich list and I sold my coin nowhere near "$20". 

[vancefox]

I'll excavate the other tx id.  If anyone else has received coins through a PayBase credit card purchase and is willing to see where they really came from, PM me the tx ID and I'll dig through them.

[not.you]

Question,

To all those that are anti-PayCoin, did you make some money with PayCoin?  Just curious.  I have.  Watching the up and downs has put a little extra BTC in my wallet.

It crossed my mind but I feel it is unethical to take advantage of people who are obviously mentally challenged.

[bmgbmg]

Can we get another sell off tonight?  It's looking like it's ready.

You know it's Friday night and all the gawtards are drinking a little and having serious second thoughts.

[maildir]

No lulz from Homero today    I am disappoint.

[WaffleMaster]

Does somebody have the picture of Joe and Homero in front of their data center? I think I can prove something. Have been highly suspicious of it since Homero was saying he sold his data center on twitter then deleted it instantly, then Bitmain is posting hash power up for a "Christmas" sale.

[TheBeardedMann]

Does somebody have the picture of Joe and Homero in front of their data center? I think I can prove something. Have been highly suspicious of it since Homero was saying he sold his data center on twitter then deleted it instantly, then Bitmain is posting hash power up for a "Christmas" sale.

http://gawminers.eu/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/GAW-Vaultbreakers.jpg

[WaffleMaster]

Does somebody have the picture of Joe and Homero in front of their data center? I think I can prove something. Have been highly suspicious of it since Homero was saying he sold his data center on twitter then deleted it instantly, then Bitmain is posting hash power up for a "Christmas" sale.

http://gawminers.eu/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/GAW-Vaultbreakers.jpg

looks like a bunch of GAW Falcons in upper right....
this is just their miners that they sold...lolz

They're not plugged in and there are no wires anywhere to be found in those pics... I'm trying to compare to this picture. They're not the same. Those miners don't even have chords anywhere to be found. Where is the cooling? Wtf??

https://www.bitmaintech.com/bm_tech_admin_at_123/userfiles/image/Christmas_Sale.jpg

[pie27]

Update:

So I have spoken to Charlotte C. Lin, Esq. (Law Office of Charlotte C. Lin) Charlotte is responsible for bring the the lawsuit against KNC miners (http://kncclassaction.com/) As per our conversation they are unable to verify if GAW actually has any funds what so every (which if found very disturbing). At this point in our process we are faced with two options:

Option 1: We as a group raise the $15,000 retainer for the legal and private investigation services

Option 2: We sit it out and wait to see if GAW comes through

We will be using GAWGATE.com as home base of this. I have also set up gawclassaction@gmail.com for all inquires I will take all replies to this thread on here and GAWGATE on which direction I should move this. I thank you for your time and look forward to your replies.

Todd

[strangerdanger101]

Does somebody have the picture of Joe and Homero in front of their data center? I think I can prove something. Have been highly suspicious of it since Homero was saying he sold his data center on twitter then deleted it instantly, then Bitmain is posting hash power up for a "Christmas" sale.

http://gawminers.eu/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/GAW-Vaultbreakers.jpg

looks like a bunch of GAW Falcons in upper right....
this is just their miners that they sold...lolz

They're not plugged in and there are no wires anywhere to be found in those pics... I'm trying to compare to this picture. They're not the same. Those miners don't even have chords anywhere to be found. Where is the cooling? Wtf??

https://www.bitmaintech.com/bm_tech_admin_at_123/userfiles/image/Christmas_Sale.jpg

Happened to find this http://www.misleddit.com/p/2nvtrr/

[sorryforthat]

Does somebody have the picture of Joe and Homero in front of their data center? I think I can prove something. Have been highly suspicious of it since Homero was saying he sold his data center on twitter then deleted it instantly, then Bitmain is posting hash power up for a "Christmas" sale.

http://gawminers.eu/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/GAW-Vaultbreakers.jpg

looks like a bunch of GAW Falcons in upper right....
this is just their miners that they sold...lolz

They're not plugged in and there are no wires anywhere to be found in those pics... I'm trying to compare to this picture. They're not the same. Those miners don't even have chords anywhere to be found. Where is the cooling? Wtf??

https://www.bitmaintech.com/bm_tech_admin_at_123/userfiles/image/Christmas_Sale.jpg

Happened to find this http://www.misleddit.com/p/2nvtrr/

Its not a poor copy and paste, its just how the back of the vest and most vests are. Black back on the vest.

[bumpershot]

Does somebody have the picture of Joe and Homero in front of their data center? I think I can prove something. Have been highly suspicious of it since Homero was saying he sold his data center on twitter then deleted it instantly, then Bitmain is posting hash power up for a "Christmas" sale.

http://gawminers.eu/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/GAW-Vaultbreakers.jpg

looks like a bunch of GAW Falcons in upper right....
this is just their miners that they sold...lolz

They're not plugged in and there are no wires anywhere to be found in those pics... I'm trying to compare to this picture. They're not the same. Those miners don't even have chords anywhere to be found. Where is the cooling? Wtf??

https://www.bitmaintech.com/bm_tech_admin_at_123/userfiles/image/Christmas_Sale.jpg

Happened to find this http://www.misleddit.com/p/2nvtrr/

That light angle is a good catch. My best guess is that "Joe Mordica" is actually at the MS data center, and they shopped the CEO into the picture because he couldn't make it there in person.

[owlcatz]

That light angle is a good catch. My best guess is that "Joe Mordica" is actually at the MS data center, and they shopped the CEO into the picture because he couldn't make it there in person.

Didn't this all get sorted already with that forensics site and was proven fake?

[strangerdanger101]

Does somebody have the picture of Joe and Homero in front of their data center? I think I can prove something. Have been highly suspicious of it since Homero was saying he sold his data center on twitter then deleted it instantly, then Bitmain is posting hash power up for a "Christmas" sale.

http://gawminers.eu/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/GAW-Vaultbreakers.jpg

looks like a bunch of GAW Falcons in upper right....
this is just their miners that they sold...lolz

They're not plugged in and there are no wires anywhere to be found in those pics... I'm trying to compare to this picture. They're not the same. Those miners don't even have chords anywhere to be found. Where is the cooling? Wtf??

https://www.bitmaintech.com/bm_tech_admin_at_123/userfiles/image/Christmas_Sale.jpg

Happened to find this http://www.misleddit.com/p/2nvtrr/

Its not a poor copy and paste, its just how the back of the vest and most vests are. Black back on the vest.

No idea I have no opinion on it either way, I was searching for the original pic and just happened on that thought it was funny.

[suchmoon]

Does somebody have the picture of Joe and Homero in front of their data center? I think I can prove something. Have been highly suspicious of it since Homero was saying he sold his data center on twitter then deleted it instantly, then Bitmain is posting hash power up for a "Christmas" sale.

http://gawminers.eu/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/GAW-Vaultbreakers.jpg

looks like a bunch of GAW Falcons in upper right....
this is just their miners that they sold...lolz

They're not plugged in and there are no wires anywhere to be found in those pics... I'm trying to compare to this picture. They're not the same. Those miners don't even have chords anywhere to be found. Where is the cooling? Wtf??

https://www.bitmaintech.com/bm_tech_admin_at_123/userfiles/image/Christmas_Sale.jpg

That "not plugged" angle has already been laughed at extensively back in August. Josh tried to argue this is an actual mining farm, not a warehouse, then sort of backtracked saying these are the last shelves of miners before plugging them in.

However a few weeks later he started posting pictures of actual ducting and wiring being done to the same warehouse, and then the Bitmain order came. So I think it's a reasonable assumption that the Mordica/Garza PR picture was just a bunch of miners for sale, not actually mining.

Now the Bitmain picture is completely different, but then again would you expect Yoshi - or whoever it is in the picture - to fly out to Nowhere, MS to take a picture with a piece of paper. Not sure why they even posted that picture, would anyone really doubt that Bitmain has miners?

[MinermanNC]

Ya it sure looks like a storage facility for mining rigs/inventory that are definitely not wired up to run. Interesting observation, I hadn't really thought twice about it. Guess there is always a chance they were preparing them for wiring and eventual usage? lol, but probably not.