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March 04, 2015, 01:35:13 AM
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Holy shit, where did this Google Groups shit come from?
Holy shit he has so many outstanding invoices its not even funny,
he even owes his PR firm $15k... hahaha you should listen to the voicemails.

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March 04, 2015, 01:38:08 AM
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Oh wow, here's an even better link..... This one has ALL THE SOURCE EMAILS IN THE COINBRIEF ARTICLE Smiley Smiley Smiley


https://groups.google.com/a/geniusesatwork.com/forum/?hl=en#!forum/ocf
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March 04, 2015, 01:41:58 AM
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That was my first thought when there was a supposed reply from "Rashib" made on a public group thingy instead of a direct Email to Homero. Smells wrong to me.

Doesn't it look like a dump of a bunch of Garza's emails? Why else the spam from various retailers, etc.? And if it was GAW putting it up there, I'm not sure I see why they would have included a bunch of emails about failure to pay bills. [Edit]: not to mention what look like reports on various networks associated with Stuart Fraser. E.g.: https://groups.google.com/a/geniusesatwork.com/forum/#!topic/josh/n-4hIKtWfMM

 With the weight of what the leaked Emails mean (direct evidence of hardcore felonious fraud) this could certainly be an attempted diversion/ misdirection on Mr Garza's part. The "lightly" unflattering things like the overdue bill would be something thrown in to the mix to give the Rishab email legitimacy.

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March 04, 2015, 01:42:44 AM
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How do I archive all of this so I can read through it at a later date?
Can I export it to my google account somehow or is there a tool to scrape this? I've never used google groups before

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March 04, 2015, 01:43:18 AM
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This is gold, I hope someone is downloading this forum!  Can't believe the stuff that is in there!
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March 04, 2015, 01:43:41 AM
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BTW, the Paycoin's market capitalization is less than 500,000 USD away from Peercoin... I'm just waiting for the moment to drop below Peercoin...  Roll Eyes

It's just happening!!! Again!!!! 190043 satoshi at Cryptsy, CoinMarketCap is showing 7,5 M USD aganst 8,9 M from Peercoin.

Sorry, I missed the first dump, when the maket cap dropped below Namecoin. =)
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March 04, 2015, 01:45:37 AM
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Homero is traveling in October http://mt.thalys.com/?78wb07sqdso6x83c56

http://mt.thalys.com/?8vgyiz7xkdexo0njhw

Btw he's trying to switch to hushmail thinking it's not a honey pot

Your verification code for Hushmail is 100347.

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March 04, 2015, 01:47:37 AM
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Homero is traveling in October http://mt.thalys.com/?78wb07sqdso6x83c56
He's travelling on the 10th of March.
He fled to Europe and we use dd/mm/yyyy here.

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March 04, 2015, 01:47:48 AM
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That was my first thought when there was a supposed reply from "Rashib" made on a public group thingy instead of a direct Email to Homero. Smells wrong to me.

Doesn't it look like a dump of a bunch of Garza's emails? Why else the spam from various retailers, etc.? And if it was GAW putting it up there, I'm not sure I see why they would have included a bunch of emails about failure to pay bills. [Edit]: not to mention what look like reports on various networks associated with Stuart Fraser. E.g.: https://groups.google.com/a/geniusesatwork.com/forum/#!topic/josh/n-4hIKtWfMM

 With the weight of what the leaked Emails mean (direct evidence of hardcore felonious fraud) this could certainly be an attempted diversion/ misdirection on Mr Garza's part. The "lightly" unflattering things like the overdue bill would be something thrown in to the mix to give the Rishab email legitimacy.

Obviously, that could be. But, again, it has reports on Stuart Fraser's network, plus (I just found) a voicemail from a driver's service arranging to meet him at the train station, "Exit Rue de France". Those are, in different ways, not things I would have thought he'd release just for fun.
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March 04, 2015, 01:48:16 AM
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BTW, the Paycoin's market capitalization is less than 500,000 USD away from Peercoin... I'm just waiting for the moment to drop below Peercoin...  Roll Eyes

It's just happening!!! Again!!!! 190043 satoshi at Cryptsy.

Sorry, I missed the first dump, when the maket cap dropped below Namecoin. =)

Sorry that was me for most part, securing the rest of my profit Smiley

Try to buy back if it dips to 10k-12k again...depending on sell volume

 
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March 04, 2015, 01:49:43 AM
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Homero is traveling in October http://mt.thalys.com/?78wb07sqdso6x83c56
He's travelling on the 10th of March.
He fled to Europe and we use dd/mm/yyyy here.

Shit then it's confirmed he's not in America

http://mt.thalys.com/?srvgucc8cjnf4klwcq

http://mt.thalys.com/?tonc68vv189e0pbv27

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March 04, 2015, 01:52:59 AM
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Homero is traveling in October http://mt.thalys.com/?78wb07sqdso6x83c56
He's travelling on the 10th of March.
He fled to Europe and we use dd/mm/yyyy here.

Shit then it's confirmed he's not in America

http://mt.thalys.com/?srvgucc8cjnf4klwcq

http://mt.thalys.com/?tonc68vv189e0pbv27
Yup, in Paris going to Belgium.

Wait until you get to all the unpaid invoices and the angry voicemail from his PR firm  Grin Grin Grin

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March 04, 2015, 01:55:12 AM
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Homero is traveling in October http://mt.thalys.com/?78wb07sqdso6x83c56
He's travelling on the 10th of March.
He fled to Europe and we use dd/mm/yyyy here.

Shit then it's confirmed he's not in America

http://mt.thalys.com/?srvgucc8cjnf4klwcq

http://mt.thalys.com/?tonc68vv189e0pbv27
Yup, in Paris going to Belgium.

Wait until you get to all the unpaid invoices and the angry voicemail from his PR firm  Grin Grin Grin

jesus can we kill it all in a blazing hellstorm of fire? FFS.

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March 04, 2015, 01:55:22 AM
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in this email their sharing a cracked version of microsoft word https://groups.google.com/a/geniusesatwork.com/forum/#!topic/josh/NGRO-FSPOJE sending a email to bill.

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March 04, 2015, 01:58:33 AM
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I'm just a random person who has been following this story since it popped up on Reddit, and I don't know how to archive. But I would think that anyone who does might want to start with the second of the groups linked by gawneedstobestopped, and start at the beginning. Because the first group has 226 topics and goes from today back to Feb. 15, while the second goes from Feb. 14 back to -- well, I haven't scrolled that far yet, but it has 8247 topics. Which might well take us back to before Paycoin launched.
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March 04, 2015, 02:00:07 AM
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in this email their sharing a cracked version of microsoft word https://groups.google.com/a/geniusesatwork.com/forum/#!topic/josh/NGRO-FSPOJE sending a email to bill.

I am locked out
Still working here.
On another note, looks like their main dev jumped ship too https://groups.google.com/a/geniusesatwork.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/ocf/6J_Rv7sfX0E

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March 04, 2015, 02:01:23 AM
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How do I archive all of this so I can read through it at a later date?
Can I export it to my google account somehow or is there a tool to scrape this? I've never used google groups before
Ziptabs is a pretty good extension: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ziptabs/ccnanbffbfbcgfmmkgejodommhidpjba?hl=en-US


You can upload the downloaded pages for public viewing using https://pancake.io/

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March 04, 2015, 02:01:52 AM
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XPY Value $1.06

What's happening with Paybase to put a price 100% above of the market?
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March 04, 2015, 02:05:14 AM
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Ccn shill


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I think we let Gizmodo take care of things...I haven't heard back from her, btw, yet.

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On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Jonas Borchgrevink <jona...@gmail.com> wrote:
I can add a statement from you, let me know if you have any.


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2015-02-27 14:32 GMT+01:00 John Caceres <jo...@geniusesatwork.com>:
The law firm will not respond. Any correspondent with any basic knowledge of the US legal system let would know that. Further, if the correspondent did make contact, the firm's representatives would have directed the correspondent to the client for comment. Seems that didn't happen here.

Most correspondents know that there is this called client confidentiality. This is just shabby and irresponsible reporting. Suffice it to say, we will not acknowledge or work with any media outlet that continues along these lines; we will not "...be forthcoming at all" and will only work with outlets that have proven to be fair, balanced and responsible.

The entire category is being "investigated" by the SEC. CNN's Martin Spurlock did an hour long piece last Sunday on Bitcoin. A rep from the SEC was a part of that segment. Paraphrasing the SEC Rep, "Bitcoin / Cryptocurrency is here to stay and as such, we need to take a look at it."

Taking statements out of context and using them for gain of eyesballs seems the SOP among many publications in this category. Perhaps the only thing of value in this piece is the fact that their are a lot of crazy things that are and will happen in this emerging category to which was alluded to in this thread...quite eloquently I might ad.

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On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 7:57 AM, Jonas Borchgrevink <jona...@gmail.com> wrote:
He did reach out to your law firm, but didn't receive any answers for 48 hours. Not quite sure why he didn't contact you yet, but I'm checking that.

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2015-02-27 13:56 GMT+01:00 Josh Garza <Jo...@gaw.com>:
It just seems pretty armature for him to write a piece with no attempt to gather any facts.

John, do you have input?

Jonas is the owner of CCN and has been a friend for a while now.

On Feb 27, 2015 1:49 PM, "Jonas Borchgrevink" <jona...@gmail.com> wrote:
Let me know if you have any comment on the article that I can put in. Not sure if the author is awake or not.

The ads seem to be booked for 1 month (background ad) but we still have some available now, or you can book it at a later point if we can pre-arrange it.

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2015-02-27 13:47 GMT+01:00 Jonas Borchgrevink <jona...@gmail.com>:
Did you not get any email? Let me check with the author.

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2015-02-27 12:39 GMT+01:00 Josh Garza <Jo...@gaw.com>:
Hi Jonas,

Did you approve this?
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/paycoin-promises-unkept/

I was also just informed that we were not reached out for any comment. I can not imagine you would allow that to happen?

On a different note, BTC.com will be launching soon. How far out are your ads booked?


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When the reporters see a lot of activity somewhere, they want to report it to drive traffic to their own articles. Sorry to see that you take a hit for it, but that's the way it is sometimes. However, false statements and facts should not be posted and if they are, will be removed by me or editors as soon as we find out.

The article is now:

The North American Bitcoin Conference scheduled for January 16-18 in Miami is partially sponsored by the controversial company Paybase. Full Disclosure: Paybase also advertises with Cryptocoins News website.

In a Reddit post appearing today, the event organizer, Moe Levin explained to some of the angry Reddit posters that the sponsorship of the event would go on as planned. The center of controversy for many reddit posters circled around the CEO of GAW Miners operation- Josh Garza.

The view of Miami Conference organizers remains neutral - as it probably should. It is probably reasonable to acknowledge that one can count the age of the oldest bitcoin companies on one hand. Judges, juries, regulators and security agencies are still trying to understand what separates good promising bitcoin companies from bad ones when the entire business models have upended everything they've ever dealt with. Most state-sponsored government agencies around the world refuse to give anybody in the blockchain industry even a look. It's probably unrealistic to expect smaller event organizers with limited resources to make those draconian decisions for us. Is it possible that the angry Reddit visitors have a point? Are Josh's statements and his grand plans believable?

Does it really matter?

This conference can not take place in many parts of the world because of the limits to free speech. In those areas, one political party decides the message and having a currency that can't be entirely controlled by themselves, can't be fathomed. Having the option to contemplate two sides of issues represents liberty. It is the currency of freedom and democracy. Bitcoin is unique because it allows for such transparency itself.

Bitcoin inherently resists censorship. Bitcoin thrives because it is neutral and independent. It's logical that a conference promoter for businesses built on the foundation of bitcoin would also champion the core qualities of bitcoin itself. We bring honor to bitcoin by allowing those who we may disagree with personally to have their voice heard.

What would the critics on Reddit think if a different country or religious leader demanded removal of the sponsorships and speaking engagements? One might predict that they would likely be up in arms with such censorship. Taking the thought experiment further: what if we allowed Reddit bitcoin bloggers and visitors to provide final clearance for our conference speaking engagements beforehand? This way we could hear only the truly useful or worthwhile according to the opinions of /r/bitcoin subreddit. We can remove any controversies and expel any dangerous thoughts or experiments that dare innovate beyond our imaginations. Centralized government departments function this way. A few 'insiders' decide themselves what is good for everybody else because they believe they always know what is best.

If Josh can "tickle the ears" of new customers and cast his spell that convinces new clients to send their hard earned money his way – that will be his right. Others can cringe and complain, and they too have the perfect right to stand up and give their opinion and wisdom to convince them the other way. Exposing these inner workings allows people to develop deeper understanding of “WHY” something could be harmful or dangerous. People might benefit from being informed rather than having somebody already deciding for them what is valuable or not. Truth tends to float to the top over time. In the meantime, some people will suffer from greed and human frailties that insist they lose money. Just when you make something idiotproof, they make a better idiot.

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Bitcoin is a massive paradigm changing technology, and it is expected to be controversial as it should. These little controversies are likely just the tip of the iceberg that may go on another 50 years of the world changing the disruption. We might as well get used to it. Bring on the challenges, the disagreements, and the different points of view that will challenge entire governments one day. Perhaps it will do us good to let it all air out at the conference.

Perhaps it is time to break out a big bag of popcorn and enjoy these warm-up fights. These are small time events compared to the rock hard sweeping challenges that fate seems destined to hurl at us in the paradigm change that will likely disrupt almost everything.

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2015-01-10 18:49 GMT+01:00 Josh Garza <jo...@gaw.com>:
Thank you man, I have no idea why we are all the sudden attack by your reporters. New is news I get that, but making up stuff is out of control. Thank you for stepping in

Can you send me the revised copy?


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I have removed the sentence,

Anything else regarding that article?

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2015-01-10 12:21 GMT+01:00 Jonas Borchgrevink <jonasmga@gmail.com>:
Know who the author is, trying to find out what happened to it.

From now on Josh, I've asked the editors to send me articles about Paycoin/Paybase, GAW or you, before they are published. I'll contact you before an article is published if I'm in doubt that there are any errors. Hope this works for you.


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2015-01-10 11:55 GMT+01:00 Jonas Borchgrevink <jonasmga@gmail.com>:
Dear Josh,

It seems like the article has been taken down. Do you remember who wrote it? I can't find it at time being. In discussions with our editors now.

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2015-01-10 11:45 GMT+01:00 Jonas Borchgrevink <jonasmga@gmail.com>:
Looking into it now Josh.

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2015-01-10 8:02 GMT+01:00 Josh Garza <josh@gaw.com>:
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/tnabc-miami-bitcoin-conference-defends-paybase-debate-decision/

This is the second libelous article your publication has released in 24 hours! The conference just emailed me and we are considering filing a joint lawsuit.

Not only did they make claims about us. They said this about them:

"In their view, Josh has been less-than-honest with the bitcoin community with his company dealings, and they smell another scam coming that would re-tarnish the digital currency brand. They’ve taken it upon themselves the duty of crowd-sourced self-policing in the bitcoin space."

This completely made up and needs to be immediately removed!

Jonas, I really like you, but you need to get your arms around this. It's going to create a liability for you


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in this email their sharing a cracked version of microsoft word https://groups.google.com/a/geniusesatwork.com/forum/#!topic/josh/NGRO-FSPOJE sending a email to bill.

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