GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)

[coinits]

I can't wait for the massive dump that will occur when Josh finally lets his customers withdrawal from the trap he has them in.... Paybase will die the minute they re-enable withdrawals.

He never will, or at least not until he and his cronies have the first crack at it.

[Hellsgremlin]

( Which reminds me to make a payment on my loan)

Considering the words "Warning : Trade with extreme caution" In big red letters next to your username that doesn't seem to be something you are very good at!

You should probably click the trust button and review the comments,   you would see that the comment are for simply being the operator and not for stealing.   The lack of trust comes from the assumed High probability that a ponzi operatior is a theif.


Also,   I misunderstood Suchmoon's intention on mentioning the ponzi.   I was feeding off of the expected response of others.  Directing it at you was a mistake.

Since I still find my Ponzi irrelevant to the actual discussion at hand im not going to comment on that any further.


The goal in my initial post was to simply point out you must understand the " Believers "  position,  Until paycoin many of them have seen positive results in the face of all of this adversity so they remain hopeful biased on their own experience.  This does not make them Dumb or Idiots.   Also,  I have not agree'd nor disagreed to anything here.  My newbie opinion is no more valuable then a grain of salt.  I am learning like many others here.   I can see what is laid before me is Overwhelming evidence that things are not as Josh would like his community to believe.  I agree that him disreguarding all these emails as fake is absolute nonsense,   there is just way to much.  

My only point was to say,  Occasionaly I see screenshots from a few belivers / HT community members being rediculed for their decisions.   These people are human and do not deserve to be picked up simple because you dont like or agree with his or her decision to show support.    To each his own,   Civility and dignity would be alot more effictive.   All these facts can be presented and discussed without picking on / laughing at the poor souls who are blinded by their faith.

Me personally,   I don't care about the coin the vision or anything other then making money.   The same goes for bitcoin and another alt coin. Im here to Buy low Sell high and that's it.   To me its all a bunch of unreasonable Bullshit that never has a real chance of being fully adopted.  Bitcoin will never be the main source of payment anywhere.  Every single bitcoin I earn will be converted to the USD and i will not pretend otherwise

[coinits]

What is this and why was it locked/deleted so fast?

https://twitter.com/rogerkver/status/573532601379520512

HT Roger Ver is fake

[strangerdanger101]

( Which reminds me to make a payment on my loan)

Considering the words "Warning : Trade with extreme caution" In big red letters next to your username that doesn't seem to be something you are very good at!

You should probably click the trust button and review the comments,   you would see that the comment are for simply being the operator and not for stealing.  

So if you went to court and said I only drove the getaway car I never actually went into the bank or robbed it or had a gun you think that absolves you of all wrong doing.  You seriously need your fucking head checked chum.  Its low life vermin like you that are going to be the downfall of the cryptoverse and yes I am attacking your character but you know what karma is a son of a bitch I only wish I could be there to witness it in action.

[Cash BTC]

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[dave01]

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Bravo Bravo.

[coinits]

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Fixed

[systematicdeception]

Does it work the same way when your "Friend" that borrowed your money immediately moved to Belgium to avoid paying you back?

[suchmoon]

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Fixed

No, I'm pretty sure it was bought. With our own money. Then sold off on oneminer.com.

[coinits]

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Fixed

No, I'm pretty sure it was bought. With our own money. Then sold off on oneminer.com.

good point

[paulh691]

unfortunately this is the way business operates in the USA.  no one complains about paypal or google's business practices.

[systematicdeception]

LOL, These kiddos still don't realize that GAW lost its only information security staff at the beginning of January. There is nobody at GAW who specializes in security at this point. This shit just keeps getting better.

https://hashtalk.org/topic/33190/paybase-security

[Crestington]

Since you ask, sure:

(1) Provide 100% transparency going back to the start.  This means coming clean about the scam cloud mining, the pre-mine XPY (and who hold/controls each and every pre-mined coin, along with an accounting of profits from sales), were all of the money GAW received went (from purchases of non-existing "miners", purchases of XPY, sales of XPY on markets, and sales of mining hardware after shutting down the mining operations)

(2) Verified destruction of all pre-mine coins and hyperinflation generated coins (staking > 5%) within GAW/Josh/Affiliates control

(3) Turning over XPY including source code repository and Prime Controller keys to Team XPY (promised but not yet done to my knowledge)
 
(4) Refunding all purchases of hashlets and hashtakers and XPY purchased from GAW since it was all based on false promises and false information

(5) Some indication of genuine remorse from Josh and others who were responsible

After that, I am satisfied.
...

Alot of smart people have made money from this.
You could have made alot if you had thought about it a bit more from the start.
Josh has given you..... the smart ones an opportunity and look what you have done with it.
Oh ye of little /hope

I think that's nearly impossible because as far as I can tell GAW owes more than 500k in unpaid debts and doesn't have the money to repay it all unless they sell into the market. They would also need to initiate a hardfork in order to restructure the way it Stakes and provide fair rewards but then they would also need to curb all of their expenses to the point where it's manageable and that would mean getting rid of Hashtalk itself since the Cloudfare is costing them thousands a month. If Josh came clean on all of it then he's fucked anyways because then there is no longer that little seed of doubt and everyone would have undeniable proof that GAW has been clearing house at the expense of investors.

I can't wait for the massive dump that will occur when Josh finally lets his customers withdrawal from the trap he has them in.... Paybase will die the minute they re-enable withdrawals.

I agree, I said this as well some pages back. The longer that PayBase is shut, the more their own userbase will lose confidence and price will decline and once opened the harder the resulting crash.

[Cash BTC]

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No, I'm pretty sure it was bought. With our own money. Then sold off on oneminer.com.

good point

Then what?!?

[Paul Revere]

@ Hellsgremlin: Awwe,there there now,  Joshy lied and you didn't get your bushel of $20 bills and he made off with your investment? Poor fella. I think you should go have mommy check your Spiderman underpants, the way you are crying makes me think you probably have some poopies in there.

Meanwhile the ~2,000,000 traveling mystery coins taken out of supposedly locked stakers (Prime Controllers?)between 2/25-2/26 continue to get mixed over and over. The one thing all of them have in common is that they originate from the Premine and they have ALL visited addresses associated with various Cryptsy addresses that have been dumping XPY since day 1 of this scam.

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/  The 125,000 XPY blocks being shuffled have mostly stayed intact so far, just being shuffled to new addresses and back and forth over and over. If you look at many of the smaller transactions (less than 15,000) they are from 125,000 chunks that were broken up a few days ago and continue to be chopped into smaller chunks and then re combined. Why is it that this activity is not being mentioned on HT? Is everyone there REALLY so stupid they can't figure out that these were "locked" coins that are being laundered and sent to the exchanges ? Meanwhile Paybase is still frozen while this goes on. I bet these will make it to changes just in time to dump right before the Paybase accounts are opened up and the panic begins, that way it will seem like it is all the panic selling making the price tank instead of these coins.

[Cash BTC]

@ Hellsgremlin: Awwe,there there now,  Joshy lied and you didn't get your bushel of $20 bills and he made off with your investment? Poor fella. I think you should go have mommy check your Spiderman underpants, the way you are crying makes me think you probably have some poopies in there.

Meanwhile the ~2,000,000 travleing mystery coins taken out of supposedly locked stakers between 2/25-2/26 continue to get mixed over and over.

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/  The 125,000 XPY blocks being shuffled have mostly stayed intact so far, just being shuffled to new addresses and back and forth over and over. If you look at many of the smaller transactions (less than 15,000) they are from 125,000 chunks that were broken up a few days ago and continue to be chopped into smaller chinks and then re combined. Why is it that this activity is not being mentioned on HT? Is everyone there REALLY so stupid they can't figure out that these were "locked" coins that are being laundered and sent to the exchanges ? Meanwhile Paybase is still frozen while this goes on. I bet these will make it to changes just in time to dump right before the Paybase accounts are opened up and the panic begins, that way it will seem like it is all the panic selling making the price tank instead of these coins.

Are everyone so stupid over the World that they didn't see that Microsoft was stealing Windows from Lisa OS.

We are not stupid... we are illuminate and GAW is the new Apple.

[Paul Revere]

Apple was using Microsoft code for their software platform, so I really don't see what you are trying to say shillster.

But, by all means, SHILL ON BRO!

[Crestington]

@ Hellsgremlin: Awwe,there there now,  Joshy lied and you didn't get your bushel of $20 bills and he made off with your investment? Poor fella. I think you should go have mommy check your Spiderman underpants, the way you are crying makes me think you probably have some poopies in there.

Meanwhile the ~2,000,000 travleing mystery coins taken out of supposedly locked stakers between 2/25-2/26 continue to get mixed over and over.

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/  The 125,000 XPY blocks being shuffled have mostly stayed intact so far, just being shuffled to new addresses and back and forth over and over. If you look at many of the smaller transactions (less than 15,000) they are from 125,000 chunks that were broken up a few days ago and continue to be chopped into smaller chinks and then re combined. Why is it that this activity is not being mentioned on HT? Is everyone there REALLY so stupid they can't figure out that these were "locked" coins that are being laundered and sent to the exchanges ? Meanwhile Paybase is still frozen while this goes on. I bet these will make it to changes just in time to dump right before the Paybase accounts are opened up and the panic begins, that way it will seem like it is all the panic selling making the price tank instead of these coins.

Are everyone so stupid over the World that they didn't see that Microsoft was stealing Windows from Lisa OS.

We are not stupid... we are illuminate and GAW is the new Apple.

Apple produces useful products that work

[Cash BTC]

@ Hellsgremlin: Awwe,there there now,  Joshy lied and you didn't get your bushel of $20 bills and he made off with your investment? Poor fella. I think you should go have mommy check your Spiderman underpants, the way you are crying makes me think you probably have some poopies in there.

Meanwhile the ~2,000,000 travleing mystery coins taken out of supposedly locked stakers between 2/25-2/26 continue to get mixed over and over.

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/  The 125,000 XPY blocks being shuffled have mostly stayed intact so far, just being shuffled to new addresses and back and forth over and over. If you look at many of the smaller transactions (less than 15,000) they are from 125,000 chunks that were broken up a few days ago and continue to be chopped into smaller chinks and then re combined. Why is it that this activity is not being mentioned on HT? Is everyone there REALLY so stupid they can't figure out that these were "locked" coins that are being laundered and sent to the exchanges ? Meanwhile Paybase is still frozen while this goes on. I bet these will make it to changes just in time to dump right before the Paybase accounts are opened up and the panic begins, that way it will seem like it is all the panic selling making the price tank instead of these coins.

Are everyone so stupid over the World that they didn't see that Microsoft was stealing Windows from Lisa OS.

We are not stupid... we are illuminate and GAW is the new Apple.

Apple produces useful products that work

After 14 years of niche and frustration.

[Cash BTC]

Apple produces useful products that work

Try to ask Apple to release they Core Foundation source codes and let me know...