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January 18, 2015, 12:44:08 AM |
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I guess it should be expected that people will try to cheat on something like this. Personally I think the OP should make a rule that the timestamps in the blockchain are what count and state that deadline time as well as the countdown timer.
A truly fair implementation would have a "pace" transaction and anything before that wouldn't count in the game. The pace transaction would start the race just like a real race. When it hit the blockchain everything would be fine.
Something like: 0.00012345 from the fee address so no one could spoof it.
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Rmcdermott927
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January 18, 2015, 12:44:22 AM |
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 These should all be counted as donations, since it goes against the game. Else its unfair for these to profit since they went against the rules. That is an unfair advantage. Yep. because next game people will go 10 mins early. Where do you draw the line? I know there you said in the rules. Very clearly I might add. The one at the top is correct. |
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dyask
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January 18, 2015, 12:45:56 AM |
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If you did that then the receive time would be closer to 00:01:00, the website was almost a full minute behind. A suppose it is possible that different people saw different countdowns depending on how it was built. Still you could have also checked UTC time and saw you were sending before 0:00:00. The website timer is probably a little flash or javascript timer. It's not really running on the site - it's running locally on everyone's computer and it very definitely drifts; the longer you have the page open, the more it drifts. The only time that can be trusted for this is the timestamp on the blockchain.info page for that address. That's the timer that I used.  Fair point. That is why the time should actually be stated too. |
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January 18, 2015, 12:46:27 AM |
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I would think so. Nothing shows you before. |
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January 18, 2015, 12:46:43 AM |
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Do 23:59:59 transactions also in game??
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January 18, 2015, 12:47:49 AM |
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seems the address 13owojW2yGUE1wjHNDfCiAD6yP85onjMhC was 1 second too early, but it is shown on the site list
I wonder if game vs blockchain is off. I saw more then just those show before the game started. It might be the 3 btc in the donation address. The ones that are showing on the site might be early by the blockchain but not the OP sites. Only a guess though. |
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January 18, 2015, 12:49:19 AM |
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January 18, 2015, 12:50:21 AM |
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seems the address 13owojW2yGUE1wjHNDfCiAD6yP85onjMhC was 1 second too early, but it is shown on the site list
I wonder if game vs blockchain is off. I saw more then just those show before the game started. It might be the 3 btc in the donation address. The ones that are showing on the site might be early by the blockchain but not the OP sites. Only a guess though. I was looking on the site when i sent it and it hit 0. |
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January 18, 2015, 12:50:24 AM |
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I think you are safe. He was taking those before 00 utc. I think he even allowed 1 sec of error. |
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dyask
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January 18, 2015, 12:50:58 AM |
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Do 23:59:59 transactions also in game??
I seriously think a very hard line should be drawn. Otherwise it just isn't fair. Counting a donation is pretty harsh, but maybe a refund wouldn't be so bad. But either one should be done. |
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January 18, 2015, 12:51:11 AM |
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seems the address 13owojW2yGUE1wjHNDfCiAD6yP85onjMhC was 1 second too early, but it is shown on the site list
I wonder if game vs blockchain is off. I saw more then just those show before the game started. It might be the 3 btc in the donation address. The ones that are showing on the site might be early by the blockchain but not the OP sites. Only a guess though. I was looking on the site when i sent it and it hit 0. Has yours been removed from the site? Or are you the :59 |
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January 18, 2015, 12:52:03 AM |
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I think you are safe. He was taking those before 00 utc. I think he even allowed 1 sec of error. The question for me is, what he does with people and their 8 secs of error... To keep them as donation would not be fair!! Definelty not! |
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January 18, 2015, 12:52:17 AM |
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Do 23:59:59 transactions also in game??
I seriously think a very hard line should be drawn. Otherwise it just isn't fair. Counting a donation is pretty harsh, but maybe a refund wouldn't be so bad. But either one should be done. Maybe a refund minus the 5% fee? |
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bitcoinpuddle
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January 18, 2015, 12:52:28 AM |
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Do 23:59:59 transactions also in game??
Attention! 24HourPonzi will launch when the timer hits 0. Do not deposit until Day #1 or you will lose your deposit. Timer hit 0 when I sent it. |
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January 18, 2015, 12:52:47 AM |
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Do 23:59:59 transactions also in game??
I seriously think a very hard line should be drawn. Otherwise it just isn't fair. Counting a donation is pretty harsh, but maybe a refund wouldn't be so bad. But either one should be done. Refund 1% less foreach second too early should be fair, or start at 90% and lower it 1% foreach second.. i'm in i think, but only played with less than 0.1 |
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January 18, 2015, 12:53:25 AM |
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I think you are safe. He was taking those before 00 utc. I think he even allowed 1 sec of error. The question for me is, what he does with people and their 8 secs of error... To keep them as donation would not be fair!! Definelty not! its not an error! It was greed to get in early.  It should be donations! Thats the rule clearly on the website! |
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January 18, 2015, 12:53:37 AM |
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whats wrong with weekly??
Everyone is playing 24hourponzi now! |
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tom14cat14
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January 18, 2015, 12:53:40 AM |
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Do 23:59:59 transactions also in game??
I seriously think a very hard line should be drawn. Otherwise it just isn't fair. Counting a donation is pretty harsh, but maybe a refund wouldn't be so bad. But either one should be done. I am mixed on this. At first I said it should be a donation. Now I am not sure. The rules clearly state it will be a donation. So that part makes me want him to follow the rules to the T. We want him to follow them when it pertains to him so we should when it pertains to us. However if there is some difference between what blockcahin says for time and what his game time then I think we should not punish those that used his game and not block chains time. |
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January 18, 2015, 12:54:30 AM |
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Something is wrong here. I started transfering 5 seconds after 01.00am here and after countdown expired on website, and here is the proof. http://www.btcponzi.me/payment.gifBut blockchin says it was 5 seconds before: 4bcdb4ce7030f2abec69afd42cb97ca0806bc79c68f04a7dea80b0c38d0e4525 2015-01-17 23:59:55 1229CbDaM7REgkpu9jYUXwHy2xEyHtaFeB--124hrKamS1ZQpEXQ3bPkrjp6KDKxspMfXp 0.5 BTC That means I have lost my money? I think thats NO JUST. If OP doesnt want to pay us, just make a refund. Was not my fault. I have waited. Thanks. |
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bitcoinpuddle
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January 18, 2015, 12:54:33 AM |
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Do 23:59:59 transactions also in game??
I seriously think a very hard line should be drawn. Otherwise it just isn't fair. Counting a donation is pretty harsh, but maybe a refund wouldn't be so bad. But either one should be done. are we looking at the timer of the site or block chains? because the rules state (Attention! 24HourPonzi will launch when the timer hits 0. Do not deposit until Day #1 or you will lose your deposit.) again the timer hit 0 when I sent it. |
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