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January 28, 2016, 03:50:51 PM |
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I don't know why you guys keep trying to blame Dev for the Amber price.
You're your own worst enemies!
Stop all the crying. You're never happy, so just leave...please.
People just want the original agreement of dividends in BTC to be honored. I hope that we can put the past behind us and move forward and those who want dividends in BTC will get them without question/delay. If people would have known there was going to be a skewed voting process like last time they would have not invested in the first place. If that process is used again it will be the nail in the coffin for this coin. Those who voted for Amber vs BTC will be awarded this "medallion of loyalty", it was a nice gesture but sort of a slap in the face to the real investors who just want the original terms to be honored.
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Slydrule
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January 28, 2016, 04:05:29 PM |
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Question for DEV:
Are dividends paid on average balance or the balance on the dividend date? Dividends paid on stocks are based on shares owned when dividends are declared. If AMBER is paid on average balance that seems unfair. The quirk in the way wallet works by creating new addresses as needed gives the indication of a lower balance in the registered wallet address even though the wallet contains more coins.
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January 28, 2016, 04:20:22 PM |
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If you guys want to sell for 1k sat, pm me!
mee to even If you guys want to sell for 1500 satoshi, pm me!
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Mig-23
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January 28, 2016, 04:23:04 PM |
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Question for DEV:
Are dividends paid on average balance or the balance on the dividend date? Dividends paid on stocks are based on shares owned when dividends are declared. If AMBER is paid on average balance that seems unfair. The quirk in the way wallet works by creating new addresses as needed gives the indication of a lower balance in the registered wallet address even though the wallet contains more coins.
It's an average balance. The wallets of the shareholders are monitored daily. To me, this is more fair. It's easy enough to use the wallet's coin control option to ensure all of your Amber is stored in the correct address. @Fitzy are you the Dev or maybe team of amberdev ? most of shareholder dissapointed with this results,.but not with you
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January 28, 2016, 04:24:22 PM |
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If you guys want to sell for 1k sat, pm me!
mee to even If you guys want to sell for 1500 satoshi, pm me! I want buy 10.000 amber per 1800 satoshi I have 0.18 BTC please pm me!
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Mig-23
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January 28, 2016, 04:30:19 PM |
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Holding a minimal share of the Company (10,000 AMBER) within a quarter can bring you ~91$. it must be changed
Holding a minimal share of the Company (10,000 AMBER) within a quarter can bring you ~7 - 9$.
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johnnysof
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January 28, 2016, 04:57:03 PM |
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Holding a minimal share of the Company (10,000 AMBER) within a quarter can bring you ~91$. it must be changed
Holding a minimal share of the Company (10,000 AMBER) within a quarter can bring you ~7 - 9$.
Actually, the whole OP is a lie: - starting with the dividends in btc - the crypto backed by amber - the option for selling back to the company - the promised high dividends, which are for 10k Amber today 7-9$ and would be 3-4$ tomorrow. - and so on.... I follow this thread quite often and since almost a year, the only effort from the company I see is sell their premined coins without doing anything to support the community and the coin itself! There is only one winner here: amber trade.... @Dev: you are representing the company here. I would be glad to hear anything from you about further plans on rescuing the coin and building up the community. Please surprise me and not just ignore the message as usual!
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January 28, 2016, 05:08:59 PM |
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An announcement to the effect that Q4 dividends will be in BTC would be nice. Personally I got out of Amber last year and just got my Q3 profits in amber, I know I'd be much happier with that 10K amber instead of $527 worth of BTC if amber were actually worth something on the exchange at the moment. I'm guessing a little less dithering and an announcement that Q4 dividends will be in BTC again would do it...
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January 28, 2016, 05:24:52 PM |
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HA HA HA!!!! LET THE BLOODBATH CONTUNUE!!! ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) This coin is now a BUY, BUY, Bye.
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Slydrule
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January 28, 2016, 05:55:27 PM |
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Question for DEV:
Are dividends paid on average balance or the balance on the dividend date? Dividends paid on stocks are based on shares owned when dividends are declared. If AMBER is paid on average balance that seems unfair. The quirk in the way wallet works by creating new addresses as needed gives the indication of a lower balance in the registered wallet address even though the wallet contains more coins.
It's an average balance. The wallets of the shareholders are monitored daily. To me, this is more fair. It's easy enough to use the wallet's coin control option to ensure all of your Amber is stored in the correct address. What is fair is that shareholders get rewarded for what they own not how well they manage the coin control option. To have to manage my coins stored in my only AMBER wallet on a daily basis is not easy or fair. If you think managing your coins daily so you can get more AMBER in dividends is something you want to spend your time on every day, that's your choice. I think I shouldn't have to.
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Mig-23
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January 28, 2016, 06:24:30 PM |
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Question for DEV:
Are dividends paid on average balance or the balance on the dividend date? Dividends paid on stocks are based on shares owned when dividends are declared. If AMBER is paid on average balance that seems unfair. The quirk in the way wallet works by creating new addresses as needed gives the indication of a lower balance in the registered wallet address even though the wallet contains more coins.
It's an average balance. The wallets of the shareholders are monitored daily. To me, this is more fair. It's easy enough to use the wallet's coin control option to ensure all of your Amber is stored in the correct address. @Fitzy are you the Dev or maybe team of amberdev ? most of shareholder dissapointed with this results,.but not with you I believe my messages are still posted under the name "Fitzy" and not "AmberCoinDev". Many people answer questions that are directed at the Dev when they know the answers. Calm yourself...I was just trying to help. Most of the noisy ones are disappointed. There are over 100 shareholders. We only ever hear from a small fraction of them. Not everyone thinks like you. Fitzy ,but lets be honest,.we got this,...i hope this calculations still not finish yet maybe i'm longer than you here,.i'm support this coins from first time so sad,so sad.....
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January 28, 2016, 06:33:35 PM |
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I can't see any reason dev would post partial earnings. Those are the numbers. Honestly you'd be kidding yourself if you didn't see q4 being down with the expansion spending in q3. Not every decision is immediately funded and can carry over in another quarter's costs.
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January 28, 2016, 06:40:53 PM |
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@AmberCoinDev, when the official annual report will be published (the annual balance sheet and profit and loss account)?
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January 28, 2016, 07:05:14 PM |
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I can't see any reason dev would post partial earnings. Those are the numbers. Honestly you'd be kidding yourself if you didn't see q4 being down with the expansion spending in q3. Not every decision is immediately funded and can carry over in another quarter's costs.
"expansion spending"? Where is the proof of this? We've only seen a very sketchy-looking inter-office memo from Olga Overchuk regarding notice that dividends will be reduced because the company needs a huge loan. You speak like an insider with no proof of such insider knowledge. If you have any, feel free to share PROOF - not just ramblings.
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January 28, 2016, 07:12:35 PM |
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i must say this dividends are better than nothing.. in winter i think its not so nice to find amber so lower dividens and profit for company... i see this projekt ass a long, very long term project where i get over years more and more money just for be a shareholder
hope at q3/q4 company invested in good things to have a great year 2016
edit: where are the people who say i am dev/amber-trade? because my english is shit xd
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January 28, 2016, 07:17:11 PM |
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does company is insolvent,.take a look
Q1 = 657800$ amount of shareholder 56
Q2 = 723450$ Amount of shareholder 106
Q3 = 914800$ amount of shareholder 132
Q4 = 103490$ amount of shareholder 159
dev ever said that the more people invest in here,then more profits company will get
but we can see the fact right now,..hope the dev can explains about this,.and i hope this is still not finish yet
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January 28, 2016, 07:18:58 PM |
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does company is insolvent,.take a look
Q1 = 657800$ amount of shareholder 56
Q2 = 723450$ Amount of shareholder 106
Q3 = 914800$ amount of shareholder 132
Q4 = 103490$ amount of shareholder 159
dev ever said that the more people invest in here,then more profits company will get
but we can see the fact right now,..hope the dev can explains about this,.and i hope this is still not finish yet
i think in winter its more hard to find amber or? i dont know so lower profit for company hope that will get in summer better
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Slydrule
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January 28, 2016, 08:21:43 PM |
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Question for DEV:
Are dividends paid on average balance or the balance on the dividend date? Dividends paid on stocks are based on shares owned when dividends are declared. If AMBER is paid on average balance that seems unfair. The quirk in the way wallet works by creating new addresses as needed gives the indication of a lower balance in the registered wallet address even though the wallet contains more coins.
It's an average balance. The wallets of the shareholders are monitored daily. To me, this is more fair. It's easy enough to use the wallet's coin control option to ensure all of your Amber is stored in the correct address. What is fair is that shareholders get rewarded for what they own not how well they manage the coin control option. To have to manage my coins stored in my only AMBER wallet on a daily basis is not easy or fair. If you think managing your coins daily so you can get more AMBER in dividends is something you want to spend your time on every day, that's your choice. I think I shouldn't have to. You only need to check if your coins moved to a different address if you SEND some from your wallet. If you're only depositing Amber into your wallet, it will always be in the address you sent it to. This cannot be true. My coins were deposited in my wallet from mining and staking yet somehow after a while most of my coins were associated with an address in my wallet other than my registered wallet address. My point is, I owned the coins the entire period and I should not be penalized because my wallet chose to create a new address. Its about shares I own, not the maintenance of my wallet.
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johnnysof
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January 28, 2016, 08:57:48 PM |
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Question for DEV:
Are dividends paid on average balance or the balance on the dividend date? Dividends paid on stocks are based on shares owned when dividends are declared. If AMBER is paid on average balance that seems unfair. The quirk in the way wallet works by creating new addresses as needed gives the indication of a lower balance in the registered wallet address even though the wallet contains more coins.
It's an average balance. The wallets of the shareholders are monitored daily. To me, this is more fair. It's easy enough to use the wallet's coin control option to ensure all of your Amber is stored in the correct address. What is fair is that shareholders get rewarded for what they own not how well they manage the coin control option. To have to manage my coins stored in my only AMBER wallet on a daily basis is not easy or fair. If you think managing your coins daily so you can get more AMBER in dividends is something you want to spend your time on every day, that's your choice. I think I shouldn't have to. You only need to check if your coins moved to a different address if you SEND some from your wallet. If you're only depositing Amber into your wallet, it will always be in the address you sent it to. This cannot be true. My coins were deposited in my wallet from mining and staking yet somehow after a while most of my coins were associated with an address in my wallet other than my registered wallet address. My point is, I owned the coins the entire period and I should not be penalized because my wallet chose to create a new address. Its about shares I own, not the maintenance of my wallet. I had the same issue. It happens usually when you send coins somewhere and the remaining amount is moved to a different address (it happens with every wallet). You could use coin control while sending coins and put as a change address your registered address or just move the change after sending back to the registered address. Honestly speaking, you should check from time to time the shareholder list if the amount there corresponds to your wallet coins. You have too much trust in amber trade and this is your foul, sorry.
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January 28, 2016, 10:13:34 PM |
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does company is insolvent,.take a look
Q1 = 657800$ amount of shareholder 56
Q2 = 723450$ Amount of shareholder 106
Q3 = 914800$ amount of shareholder 132
Q4 = 103490$ amount of shareholder 159
dev ever said that the more people invest in here,then more profits company will get
but we can see the fact right now,..hope the dev can explains about this,.and i hope this is still not finish yet
i think in winter its more hard to find amber or? i dont know so lower profit for company hope that will get in summer better The more a company invest in property, the less cash it has in its pockets... that mean, don't be surprise by these low numbers if the invest it!
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