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Author Topic: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It  (Read 3914026 times)
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July 14, 2013, 02:15:54 AM
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Go back a week and average the hashrate up until now.

There you go..

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July 14, 2013, 02:43:32 AM
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The amount of kicking and screaming is going to play a large part in determining just where this train is taking us. I invite you to contemplate a universe in which MPOE-PR's forum nickname is WorldBank-PR or IMF-PR.
I... don't think so.

Most rude people and trolls behave this way because they are protected by the pseudonimity of the Internet: if their identity was matched to a real world entity, I doubt many of them would still behave this way.


Totally right.
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July 14, 2013, 12:36:30 PM
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Does anyone here know of a relationship between ASICMiner and DiscusFish?

I see a clear correlation between their hashrates. While correlation != causation, is DiscusFish maybe renting a percent of ASICMiner's hashrate? Are investors being paid a little extra?

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1i9ts8/is_asicminer_renting_hashes_to_discusfish_and_if/

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July 14, 2013, 01:06:39 PM
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Does anyone here know of a relationship between ASICMiner and DiscusFish? I see a clear correlation between their hashrates. While correlation != causation, is DiscusFish maybe renting a percent of ASICMiner's hashrate? Are investors being paid a little extra?

Well, our hashrate numbers we have is an estimate right?  So if we are currently unlucky... and therefore our estimates drop, it stands to reason that someone else IS lucky.  Therefore when you are only comparing estimates, yes they should be weekly correlated in the way you suggest, right?

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July 14, 2013, 01:14:52 PM
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Does anyone here know of a relationship between ASICMiner and DiscusFish? I see a clear correlation between their hashrates. While correlation != causation, is DiscusFish maybe renting a percent of ASICMiner's hashrate? Are investors being paid a little extra?

Well, our hashrate numbers we have is an estimate right?  So if we are currently unlucky... and therefore our estimates drop, it stands to reason that someone else IS lucky.  Therefore when you are only comparing estimates, yes they should be weekly correlated in the way you suggest, right?

No - I know what you mean, but that's not the sort of correlation I'm referring to.

Pool hashrates tend to be uncorrelated. For example, none of the pools below have a history of correlated hashrates - except for the two yellow lines, ASICMiner solo and DiscusFish.


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July 14, 2013, 01:45:49 PM
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Does anyone here know of a relationship between ASICMiner and DiscusFish?

I see a clear correlation between their hashrates. While correlation != causation, is DiscusFish maybe renting a percent of ASICMiner's hashrate? Are investors being paid a little extra?

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1i9ts8/is_asicminer_renting_hashes_to_discusfish_and_if/
As I know,they are both chinese,so am i.
And ,that's all.

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July 14, 2013, 01:49:31 PM
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Does anyone here know of a relationship between ASICMiner and DiscusFish?

I see a clear correlation between their hashrates. While correlation != causation, is DiscusFish maybe renting a percent of ASICMiner's hashrate? Are investors being paid a little extra?

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1i9ts8/is_asicminer_renting_hashes_to_discusfish_and_if/
As I know,they are both chinese,so am i.
And ,that's all.

So ASICMiner has not mentioned any working relationship with them?

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July 14, 2013, 01:55:28 PM
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So ASICMiner has not mentioned any working relationship with them?
No.They don't.
Again,as i know.

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July 14, 2013, 02:00:42 PM
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So ASICMiner has not mentioned any working relationship with them?
No.They don't.
Again,as i know.

Ah well.Maybe it's a coincidence.

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July 14, 2013, 05:28:55 PM
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So what's the best place to buy ASICMINER put options?

BTC-TC only has TWO contracts available. And they both have huge premiums.

Is there something better anywhere?
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July 14, 2013, 05:31:32 PM
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So what's the best place to buy ASICMINER put options?

BTC-TC only has TWO contracts available. And they both have huge premiums.

Is there something better anywhere?

Put out how many you're looking for, what strike and premium you're looking for and what your time frame is - you'll get people to put them up. Possibly myself included.

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July 14, 2013, 05:53:25 PM
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So what's the best place to buy ASICMINER put options?

BTC-TC only has TWO contracts available. And they both have huge premiums.

Is there something better anywhere?

Put out how many you're looking for, what strike and premium you're looking for and what your time frame is - you'll get people to put them up. Possibly myself included.

If anybody has a link that explains how simply as possible how these put options work, please share. I'm a complete layman with this.

Monero's privacy and therefore fungibility are MUCH stronger than Bitcoin's. 
This makes Monero a better candidate to deserve the term "digital cash".
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July 14, 2013, 05:55:50 PM
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So what's the best place to buy ASICMINER put options?

BTC-TC only has TWO contracts available. And they both have huge premiums.

Is there something better anywhere?

Put out how many you're looking for, what strike and premium you're looking for and what your time frame is - you'll get people to put them up. Possibly myself included.

If anybody has a link that explains how simply as possible how these put options work, please share. I'm a complete layman with this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Put_option

https://www.bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
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July 14, 2013, 06:08:51 PM
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So what's the best place to buy ASICMINER put options?

BTC-TC only has TWO contracts available. And they both have huge premiums.

Is there something better anywhere?

Put out how many you're looking for, what strike and premium you're looking for and what your time frame is - you'll get people to put them up. Possibly myself included.
Fair request.

I'm looking to buy 20 American style put options with a strike price of 3.0 BTC and a duration of 90 days for 0.25 BTC per contract.

So what's the best place to buy ASICMINER put options?

BTC-TC only has TWO contracts available. And they both have huge premiums.

Is there something better anywhere?

Put out how many you're looking for, what strike and premium you're looking for and what your time frame is - you'll get people to put them up. Possibly myself included.

If anybody has a link that explains how simply as possible how these put options work, please share. I'm a complete layman with this.
An American style put option is a contract that entitles the owner the right, but not the obligation, to sell the specified asset at the specified price (called the strike price) within the specified period.

If it's European style then it's at the expiration date.
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July 14, 2013, 06:39:07 PM
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Thanks for the link/explanation. I think it's best for me to stay away of this, the wikipedia article sounds pretty much like chinese to me  Smiley

Monero's privacy and therefore fungibility are MUCH stronger than Bitcoin's. 
This makes Monero a better candidate to deserve the term "digital cash".
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July 14, 2013, 07:37:36 PM
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Pretty peaceful and runeks you might want to use Bold to make sure people notice your options for sale

Out of curiosity why is the chart at 180%
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkPdXsQFT-vIdHRVUjQ5Ql9BQWR6OENLMkhyUktUblE#gid=9
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July 14, 2013, 07:40:19 PM
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Pretty peaceful and runeks you might want to use Bold to make sure people notice your options for sale

Out of curiosity why is the chart at 180%
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkPdXsQFT-vIdHRVUjQ5Ql9BQWR6OENLMkhyUktUblE#gid=9

Looks like the V1 chart is showing the wrong difficulty.  I would look there first.

Edit: Last two difficulty entries are off by an order of magnitude.

https://www.bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
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July 14, 2013, 07:43:41 PM
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Pretty peaceful and runeks you might want to use Bold to make sure people notice your options for sale

Out of curiosity why is the chart at 180%
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkPdXsQFT-vIdHRVUjQ5Ql9BQWR6OENLMkhyUktUblE#gid=9

Looks like the V1 chart is showing the wrong difficulty.  I would look there first.

Edit: Last two difficulty entries are off by an order of magnitude.

Ah now I see the mistake
187.28116 vs 18.72812

Thanks for pointing that out waits for the fix from SmiGueL I'll just divide the network rates by 10 and assume that was the correct division
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July 14, 2013, 08:05:00 PM
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Pretty peaceful and runeks you might want to use Bold to make sure people notice your options for sale

Out of curiosity why is the chart at 180%
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkPdXsQFT-vIdHRVUjQ5Ql9BQWR6OENLMkhyUktUblE#gid=9

Looks like the V1 chart is showing the wrong difficulty.  I would look there first.

Edit: Last two difficulty entries are off by an order of magnitude.

Ah now I see the mistake
187.28116 vs 18.72812

Thanks for pointing that out waits for the fix from SmiGueL I'll just divide the network rates by 10 and assume that was the correct division

That wouldn't be quite right, but is a decent approximation.

https://www.bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
While no idea is perfect, some ideas are useful.
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July 14, 2013, 08:11:03 PM
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What's the hardware sales situation these days? I think I missed the relevant posts about this...
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